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Date: 15 Aug 2007 08:13:46
From: Fred
Subject: True love awaits for Edward Dolan and Patrick Turner
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Something truly magical is occurring.
Are Ed and Pat about to be lured together and discover each others
charms?
And find true love?
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 03:48:12
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: True love awaits for Edward Dolan and Patrick Turner
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"Fred" <dazza56@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1187190826.321688.10760@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Something truly magical is occurring.
>
> Are Ed and Pat about to be lured together and discover each others
> charms?
>
> And find true love?
I dimly recall that love was something I used to dream about as a teenager.
Well, that was over half a century ago and it has ever alluded me. I think
it is because it does not exist, except in the dreams of teenagers.
I grow old . I grow old .
I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled.
Shall I part my hair behind? Do I dare to eat a peach?
I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.
I do not think that they will sing to me.
I have seen them riding seaward on the waves
Combing the white hair of the waves blown back
When the wind blows the water white and black.
We have lingered in the chambers of the sea
By sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown
Till human voices wake us, and we drown.
- The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock by T.S. Eliot
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 10:05:48
From: Patrick Turner
Subject: Re: True love awaits for Edward Dolan and Patrick Turner
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Edward Dolan wrote:
>
> "Fred" <dazza56@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1187190826.321688.10760@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> > Something truly magical is occurring.
> >
> > Are Ed and Pat about to be lured together and discover each others
> > charms?
> >
> > And find true love?
>
> I dimly recall that love was something I used to dream about as a teenager.
> Well, that was over half a century ago and it has ever alluded me. I think
> it is because it does not exist, except in the dreams of teenagers.
>
> I grow old . I grow old .
> I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled.
>
> Shall I part my hair behind? Do I dare to eat a peach?
> I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
> I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.
>
> I do not think that they will sing to me.
>
> I have seen them riding seaward on the waves
> Combing the white hair of the waves blown back
> When the wind blows the water white and black.
>
> We have lingered in the chambers of the sea
> By sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown
> Till human voices wake us, and we drown.
>
> - The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock by T.S. Eliot
Love exists as surely does poetry.
Our strange species depends upon it
to propagate itself.
But for the ordinary man, he doesn't
ever realise how much he pays for it.
One has to be Stoinkingly Rich to be able to say
you don't notice the price of love.
I tell shielas I who I don't think I could love
that I prefer a 4 hour ride on a bicycle.
And not once has any one of them reacted with..
"Well OK...can I come along too?"
Patrick Turner.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
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Date: 19 Aug 2007 05:43:33
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: True love awaits for Edward Dolan and Patrick Turner
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"Patrick Turner" <info@turneraudio.com.au > wrote in message
news:46C4218A.D009266B@turneraudio.com.au...
>
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>
>> "Fred" <dazza56@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1187190826.321688.10760@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> > Something truly magical is occurring.
>> >
>> > Are Ed and Pat about to be lured together and discover each others
>> > charms?
>> >
>> > And find true love?
>>
>> I dimly recall that love was something I used to dream about as a
>> teenager.
>> Well, that was over half a century ago and it has ever alluded me. I
>> think
>> it is because it does not exist, except in the dreams of teenagers.
>>
>> I grow old . I grow old .
>> I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled.
>>
>> Shall I part my hair behind? Do I dare to eat a peach?
>> I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
>> I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.
>>
>> I do not think that they will sing to me.
>>
>> I have seen them riding seaward on the waves
>> Combing the white hair of the waves blown back
>> When the wind blows the water white and black.
>>
>> We have lingered in the chambers of the sea
>> By sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown
>> Till human voices wake us, and we drown.
>>
>> - The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock by T.S. Eliot
>
> Love exists as surely does poetry.
>
> Our strange species depends upon it
> to propagate itself.
[...]
Every other animal species manages to propagate itself just fine without the
delusion of love. All that is necessary is sex, not love.
Anyone but me ever notice how most marriages only last about 10 years at
which point you could care less about your freaking wife, and vice versa of
course.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 22 Aug 2007 18:38:40
From: Tom \Johnny Sunset\ Sherman
Subject: Re: True love awaits for Edward Dolan and Patrick Turner
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Edward Dolan wrote:
> ...
> Anyone but me ever notice how most marriages only last about 10 years at
> which point you could care less about your freaking wife, and vice versa of
> course.
Its is simple. Women (at some point) demand marriage in return for sex.
Men marry for sex, women marry for a sperm donor and provider/protector
for "HER" children. Women often lose interest in sex after having their
brood of brats, which results in the man losing interest in the
relationship. Man finds other outlet for sex and/or asks to end the
relationship. Woman takes man to the cleaners in divorce court.
Many men are even suckers enough to raise other men's children - a good
number of married women get pregnant by someone other than their husband.
It works from an evolutionary point of view, since offspring are
produced, but it is terrible from a human happiness point of view.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
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Date: 24 Aug 2007 02:57:17
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: True love awaits for Edward Dolan and Patrick Turner
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"Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman" <sunsetss0003@iinvalid.com > wrote in message
news:46ccbcf1$0$10114$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> ...
>> Anyone but me ever notice how most marriages only last about 10 years at
>> which point you could care less about your freaking wife, and vice versa
>> of course.
>
> Its is simple. Women (at some point) demand marriage in return for sex.
> Men marry for sex, women marry for a sperm donor and provider/protector
> for "HER" children. Women often lose interest in sex after having their
> brood of brats, which results in the man losing interest in the
> relationship. Man finds other outlet for sex and/or asks to end the
> relationship. Woman takes man to the cleaners in divorce court.
>
> Many men are even suckers enough to raise other men's children - a good
> number of married women get pregnant by someone other than their husband.
>
> It works from an evolutionary point of view, since offspring are produced,
> but it is terrible from a human happiness point of view.
Amazing how great minds think alike on matters of sex. I couldn't agree more
with Mr. Sherman than on the points he makes above.
The fact is that men and women are very different. I noticed this from my
earliest years. The whole and entire purpose of sex is to spread those genes
around. That is what men are for. However, women are for the birthing and
raising of offspring. They are all about reproduction and not much else.
The bottom line is that men are bamboozled by sex. Women have got it right.
They allow men to fuck them, but in the end it is the men who get royally
fucked.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 22 Aug 2007 18:51:08
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: True love awaits for Edward Dolan and Patrick Turner
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> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> ...
>> Anyone but me ever notice how most marriages only last about 10 years
>> at which point you could care less about your freaking wife, and vice
>> versa of course.
Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman wrote:
> Its is simple. Women (at some point) demand marriage in return for sex.
> Men marry for sex, women marry for a sperm donor and provider/protector
> for "HER" children. Women often lose interest in sex after having their
> brood of brats, which results in the man losing interest in the
> relationship. Man finds other outlet for sex and/or asks to end the
> relationship. Woman takes man to the cleaners in divorce court.
>
> Many men are even suckers enough to raise other men's children - a good
> number of married women get pregnant by someone other than their husband.
>
> It works from an evolutionary point of view, since offspring are
> produced, but it is terrible from a human happiness point of view.
The absolute best and most incisive post from Tom this year. Kudos, Tom
- you 'get' it.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 20 Aug 2007 08:36:01
From: Patrick Turner
Subject: Re: True love awaits for Edward Dolan and Patrick Turner
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>
> Every other animal species manages to propagate itself just fine without the
> delusion of love. All that is necessary is sex, not love.
But animals are not capable of what we call love.
Anyway, without love sex is impossible for many humans.
You are quite stupid to believe that love is a mere delusion.
There are many people who would agree with me.
>
> Anyone but me ever notice how most marriages only last about 10 years at
> which point you could care less about your freaking wife, and vice versa of
> course.
Yeah sure, just about all the world realizes love and marriage ain't
forever,
but so what? divorce serves its purpose when you are through with
someone.
Then ppl re-marry, re-partner, whatever.
Some marry 4 times. Good luck to them all I say,
and I hope they can afford it.
Go back to your Bicycle Ed, its safer territory than social science.
Patrick Turner.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Not so Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the GreatFool - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 20 Aug 2007 04:49:53
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: True love awaits for Edward Dolan and Patrick Turner
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"Patrick Turner" <info@turneraudio.com.au > wrote in message
news:46C95277.3F574782@turneraudio.com.au...
Edward Dolan wrote:
>>
>> Every other animal species manages to propagate itself just fine without
>> the
>> delusion of love. All that is necessary is sex, not love.
>
> But animals are not capable of what we call love.
Nor are we!
> Anyway, without love sex is impossible for many humans.
> You are quite stupid to believe that love is a mere delusion.
> There are many people who would agree with me.
I have never heard of a human being for whom sex is not possible without
love. What planet are you from anyway?
>> Anyone but me ever notice how most marriages only last about 10 years at
>> which point you could care less about your freaking wife, and vice versa
>> of
>> course.
>
> Yeah sure, just about all the world realizes love and marriage ain't
> forever,
> but so what? divorce serves its purpose when you are through with
> someone.
> Then ppl re-marry, re-partner, whatever.
> Some marry 4 times. Good luck to them all I say,
> and I hope they can afford it.
But I am telling you that sex is not forever either. It depends on lust
which properly speaking belongs only to teenagers. Hells Bells, the rest of
us are too damn ugly even for lust.
> Go back to your Bicycle Ed, its safer territory than social science.
I am a side dish on these cycling newsgroups. You only read me when you are
tired of all the idiot cyclists.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 04:19:25
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: True love awaits for Edward Dolan and Patrick Turner
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"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:zZOdnTGG5eXkklnbnZ2dnUVZ_tijnZ2d@prairiewave.com..
One word had to be corrected. I spotted it right away of course.
> "Fred" <dazza56@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1187190826.321688.10760@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> Something truly magical is occurring.
>>
>> Are Ed and Pat about to be lured together and discover each others
>> charms?
>>
>> And find true love?
>
> I dimly recall that love was something I used to dream about as a
> teenager. Well, that was over half a century ago and it has ever alluded
> [eluded] me. I think it is because it does not exist, except in the dreams
> of teenagers.
>
>
> I grow old . I grow old .
> I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled.
>
> Shall I part my hair behind? Do I dare to eat a peach?
> I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
> I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.
>
> I do not think that they will sing to me.
>
> I have seen them riding seaward on the waves
> Combing the white hair of the waves blown back
> When the wind blows the water white and black.
>
> We have lingered in the chambers of the sea
> By sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown
> Till human voices wake us, and we drown.
>
> - The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock by T.S. Eliot
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 07:39:57
From: Aeek
Subject: Re: True love awaits for Edward Dolan and Patrick Turner
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:13:46 -0700, Fred <dazza56@gmail.com > wrote:
>Something truly magical is occurring.
(trollbait crosspost to ARBR removed)
Crap on. They don't compare. Patrick has something to say, relevant
even. Ed is a waste of electrons.
Welcome Patrick!
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Date: 15 Aug 2007 19:55:08
From: Tom \Johnny Sunset\ Sherman
Subject: Re: True love awaits for Edward Dolan and Patrick Turner
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"Aeek" wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:13:46 -0700, Fred <dazza56@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Something truly magical is occurring.
>
> (trollbait crosspost to ARBR removed)...
Er, no.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition"
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 19:19:30
From: Aeek
Subject: Re: True love awaits for Edward Dolan and Patrick Turner
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:55:08 -0500, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
<sunsetss0003@invailid.com > wrote:
>Er, no.
oops, sorry about that
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