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Date: 24 Dec 2004 17:37:30
From: Robert Haston
Subject: Why do newsgroups have resident jerks?
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I don't get why it seems the rule of unmoderated newsgroups that one or two
people take up residence and dedicate themselves to ruining decent
newsgroups.
I'm off to BROL now.
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Robert Haston
Satellite Beach, FL
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Date: 25 Dec 2004 13:55:22
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Why do newsgroups have resident jerks?
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"Robert Haston" <rehaston@earthlink.net > wrote in message
news:utYyd.12174$Z47.965@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>I don't get why it seems the rule of unmoderated newsgroups that one or two
>people take up residence and dedicate themselves to ruining decent
>newsgroups.
>
> I'm off to BROL now.
Robert, you are welcome to BROL. The fact is I do not like any forum type
bulletin boards. It is like watching grass grow. It seems to defeat the very
purpose of having a newsreader and the quickness of Usenet. It is for
sluggards and dullards. No thank you! I will stick with ARBR and proper
Usenet newsgroups even if as you say they can get a bit indecent at times.
Usenet I consider a miracle. Bulletin board type forums belong to another
age. Mr. Sherman is 100% right about Usenet freeing us to say things that we
would otherwise never be permitted to say - and we are saying it to the
world. Like I said, Usenet is a g.d. miracle. Frankly, I do not want to even
discuss any of this with those who are unable to appreciate what science and
technology has wrought.
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Regards,
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
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Date: 24 Dec 2004 15:26:28
From: Leif
Subject: Re: Why do newsgroups have resident jerks?
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Robert Haston wrote:
> I don't get why it seems the rule of unmoderated newsgroups that one
or two
> people take up residence and dedicate themselves to ruining decent
> newsgroups.
>
> I'm off to BROL now.
>
> --
> Robert Haston
> Satellite Beach, FL
The reason, IMHO, is that the anonimity attracts such cowards.
Imagine, if you will, a group of people sitting around talking about
things of mutual interst, in this case, recumbents. Now imagine some
idiot walking in to the middle of this group and saying something like,
"Hey all you fat old geezers, I'm Johnny the Idiot and I'm much better
than you b/c I ride the coolest bike in the universe".
Needless to say, this guy would get his ass kicked. The usernet
provides him with a place to hide.... until someone gets pissed off
enough to do something about it.
....returning to my outdated,overly comprimised bent,
-Leif
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Date: 24 Dec 2004 18:47:04
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Why do newsgroups have resident jerks?
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"Leif" <LeifEric@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1103930788.093399.76420@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
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> Robert Haston wrote:
>> I don't get why it seems the rule of unmoderated newsgroups that one
> or two
>> people take up residence and dedicate themselves to ruining decent
>> newsgroups.
>>
>> I'm off to BROL now.
>>
>> --
>> Robert Haston
>> Satellite Beach, FL
>
> The reason, IMHO, is that the anonimity attracts such cowards.
> Imagine, if you will, a group of people sitting around talking about
> things of mutual interst, in this case, recumbents. Now imagine some
> idiot walking in to the middle of this group and saying something like,
> "Hey all you fat old geezers, I'm Johnny the Idiot and I'm much better
> than you b/c I ride the coolest bike in the universe".
> Needless to say, this guy would get his ass kicked. The usernet
> provides him with a place to hide.... until someone gets pissed off
> enough to do something about it.
> ....returning to my outdated,overly comprimised bent,
>
> -Leif
Leif, I can't speak to the Monkey Island shit heads as it is beyond my
reckoning, but as for the regulars here on ARBR I can assure you it has
nothing to do with cowardice. Of course, we would not act the same in real
life as we do on a newsgroup. Good Grief! That is a given. Usenet frees us
to say things about how we really think without first establishing a
foundation of friendship, which normally takes many years to do.
Varney says we should write as though we are writing to family, but that
would be no fun at all. No, I prefer to write to strangers where I can say
exactly what is on my mind and let the chips fall where they may. That is
the whole point of Usenet. If you want to write as though you were writing
to family, then for heaven's sake do so. But Usenet is not family. It is the
larger world and it is totally different.
A war of words is as real as any other war, but it is important to keep it
strictly a war of words. Anyone who can't do that should not be on Usenet in
the first place.
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Regards,
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
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Date: 24 Dec 2004 13:47:58
From:
Subject: Re: Why do newsgroups have resident jerks?
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It seems like everything on line has its plusses and minuses. IHPVA
was constantly screaming about OTs and cutting off very good
discussions.
BROL is great but it is slower than molasses on my computer with a
lousy phone line. It kept changing fomats, adding ads that take 15
minutes before I could scroll, or demanding pictures: so after the last
change; I came back.
I can tolerate that juvenile crap or listen to a know-it-all, but after
a few months away; ARBR was unorganized, yet organized enough to
tolerate WAY over the moderated ones (Power assist especially!); so OUT
with all other groups except ARBR.
Alll I can do is think "this too will pass".
Then an enjoyable X-maspoem appears and I know why I stayed.
I hope you enjoy BROL. Good luck!
Chris Jordan
Santa Cruz, CA.
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Date: 24 Dec 2004 13:47:56
From:
Subject: Re: Why do newsgroups have resident jerks?
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It seems like everything on line has its plusses and minuses. IHPVA
was constantly screaming about OTs and cutting off very good
discussions.
BROL is great but it is slower than molasses on my computer with a
lousy phone line. It kept changing fomats, adding ads that take 15
minutes before I could scroll, or demanding pictures: so after the last
change; I came back.
I can tolerate that juvenile crap or listen to a know-it-all, but after
a few months away; ARBR was unorganized, yet organized enough to
tolerate WAY over the moderated ones (Power assist especially!); so OUT
with all other groups except ARBR.
Alll I can do is think "this too will pass".
Then an enjoyable X-maspoem appears and I know why I stayed.
I hope you enjoy BROL. Good luck!
Chris Jordan
Santa Cruz, CA.
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Date: 24 Dec 2004 13:46:33
From:
Subject: Re: Why do newsgroups have resident jerks?
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It seems like everything on line has its plusses and minuses. IHPVA
was constantly screaming about OTs and cutting off very good
discussions.
BROL is great but it is slower than molasses on my computer with a
lousy phone line. It kept changing fomats, adding ads that take 15
minutes before I could scroll, or demanding pictures: so after the last
change; I came back.
I can tolerate that juvenile crap or listen to a know-it-all, but after
a few months away; ARBR was unorganized, yet organized enough to
tolerate WAY over the moderated ones (Power assist especially!); so OUT
with all other groups except ARBR.
Alll I can do is think "this too will pass".
Then an enjoyable X-maspoem appears and I know why I stayed.
I hope you enjoy BROL. Good luck!
Chris Jordan
Santa Cruz, CA.
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Date: 24 Dec 2004 12:14:37
From: Al Luminium
Subject: Re: Why do newsgroups have resident jerks?
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"Robert Haston" <rehaston@earthlink.net > wrote in message
news:utYyd.12174$Z47.965@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>I don't get why it seems the rule of unmoderated newsgroups that one or two
>people take up residence and dedicate themselves to ruining decent
>newsgroups.
>
> I'm off to BROL now.
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> --
> Robert Haston
> Satellite Beach, FL
>
You might not have noticed the Cletus and Peter show over at BROL Bob, but
they're like two dogs lsniffing each other's asses and pissing everywhere in
the house.
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Date: 24 Dec 2004 18:44:48
From: Mike Causer
Subject: Re: Seat angle?
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On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:59:44 -0600, Tom Sherman wrote:
>> Not really a high BB, but certainly not low. At 70deg from vertical you
>> are going to be folded over like Lance in full aero-tuck TT mode. If
>> you want to get an idea of what the commercial builders do, you'll find
>> details of seat angle(s), height and BB height for all the models of
>> Trice (Guy knows why I've been drooling here this afternoon), at
>> http://www.ice.hpv.co.uk/
>
> I believe the second sentence of the paragraph quoted directly above
> should read "At 70deg from [horizontal].
Yes, you're right.
> My RANS Rocket has the bottom bracket about 2 inches above the seat [1],
> similar to what Ken cet is proposing for his homebuilt, and I have the
> seat reclined at about 55 degrees from horizontal.
My Speed Ross has BB 1.5cm above seat bottom (therefore in similar range),
and is at 41.5deg to horizontal. I'd call it a comfortable bike for
touring, despite the name. I've ridden more laid-back trikes and found
them no problem, probably in the 30degree range, but I know from
driving cars at around 20-25deg that vision gets to be a problem down
there.
> This is about as reclined as I would want to be before the hip angle
> becomes too open for climbing and sprinting effectively.
A runner is operating at what we would call 0deg from horizontal, and they
don't seem to have a problem. Having been a cyclist for so long I cannot
run more than a few steps now, so I think that the problem with "open"
positions is a matter of how the muscles have been trained. (As with the
advice to give the muscles time to adapt in the transition from upright to
'bent.)
> [1] Using an estimated level of seat foam compression.
What is this "foam" of which you speak? ;-)
Mike
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Date: 24 Dec 2004 13:02:37
From: Al Luminium
Subject: Re: Why do newsgroups have resident jerks?
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> I do remember that Ol' Cli..., er Cletus Lee would often complain about
> not having his way, and then threaten to leave the newsgroup.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman – Near Rock Island
He took a bit too long and has door ks on his ass. Is UNCTIOUS
PONTIFICATING MOTHERFOCKKER too over the top?
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Date: 24 Dec 2004 17:43:02
From: Not Johnny NoCom
Subject: Re: Why do newsgroups have resident jerks?
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Now!
who may you be referring to?
Thank you Earl
GRR,Ti GRR
Ti Pursuit,Lightning Stealth
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