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Date: 25 Sep 2007 17:04:00
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Subject: 10 Speed Shifters/Brake Handles Conversion Questions
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I have an old 10 speed, 30+ years old. It got rebuilt with adequate parts 15 to 20 years ago that are still durable for the limited biking I have gotten into for exercise reasons. A friend I ride with has a new Gary Fisher Wingra and the upright positioning and quick shifters mounted on the upright handlebars have me jealous. He let me ride it and it is much more comfortable as well as easier on my back. I'm not ready to spend $500 on a new bike for the limited riding I do which amounts to 1 to 2 hours per week. What I do want to play with is to update my 10 speed to the quick shifters/brake handles on upright handlebars. Handlebars and the quick shifters are easy enough to come by. What issues am I going to have converting to these newer style controls? I'm seeing two sizes of handle bar mounts - 25.4 MM and 31.8 MM. I assume I have the 25.4 but will confirm by measuring. I have old center pull brakes and was wondering if the the combo shifters/brake handles will create any problems here. I'm looking at something like a Shimano ST-EFM50 set up. Any other pitfalls I need to watch out for along with solutions? Thanks for any help. Mike O.
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Date: 28 Sep 2007 01:54:01
From: landotter
Subject: Re: 10 Speed Shifters/Brake Handles Conversion Questions
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On Sep 26, 12:17 pm, Ozark Bicycle <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote: > On Sep 26, 12:05 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sep 26, 12:01 pm, Ozark Bicycle > > > <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote: > > > On Sep 26, 11:39 am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Sep 26, 10:56 am, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote: > > > > > > "Retro is the new modern" heh heh that's pithy! > > > > >http://tinyurl.com/2f5xpz > > > > What's in *your* closet? ;-) > > > It's not a collection of self-stick Robert Goulet moustaches, if > > that's what you're getting at! > > LOL!!! > > No, not at all.......just making a joke re: "fashion" *on and off the > bike). > > Speaking of bicycles and fashion, there's gonna be a "fashion show" > featuring overpriced bike duds in Little Rock on the night of the > 29th. Look out for the Yupeleton! > > http://www.cycle-chic.com > > :-( Doesn't look bad at all. Just some floral print synthetics. It's not like they're doing some fake courier rebel look crap trying to look like me out on a beer and dogfood run with my sun faded old Timbuk2 on my back. If they really wanted the "look", they could pluck about half the hair from the tops of their heads. :-P When this forehead gash turns into yet another shiny scar--I'm gonna be so much cooler than any of those fashionistas! Remember, kids, scabs are gross, but scars are the new piercing!
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Date: 26 Sep 2007 10:17:48
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: 10 Speed Shifters/Brake Handles Conversion Questions
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On Sep 26, 12:05 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com > wrote: > On Sep 26, 12:01 pm, Ozark Bicycle > > <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote: > > On Sep 26, 11:39 am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Sep 26, 10:56 am, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote: > > > > > "Retro is the new modern" heh heh that's pithy! > > > >http://tinyurl.com/2f5xpz > > > What's in *your* closet? ;-) > > It's not a collection of self-stick Robert Goulet moustaches, if > that's what you're getting at! LOL!!! No, not at all.......just making a joke re: "fashion" *on and off the bike). Speaking of bicycles and fashion, there's gonna be a "fashion show" featuring overpriced bike duds in Little Rock on the night of the 29th. Look out for the Yupeleton! http://www.cycle-chic.com :-(
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 17:45:41
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: 10 Speed Shifters/Brake Handles Conversion Questions
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In article <1190827068.530440.102690@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com > , Ozark Bicycle <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote: > On Sep 26, 12:05 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sep 26, 12:01 pm, Ozark Bicycle > > > > <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote: > > > On Sep 26, 11:39 am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Sep 26, 10:56 am, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote: > > > > > > > "Retro is the new modern" heh heh that's pithy! > > > > > >http://tinyurl.com/2f5xpz > > > > > What's in *your* closet? ;-) > > > > It's not a collection of self-stick Robert Goulet moustaches, if > > that's what you're getting at! > > LOL!!! > > No, not at all.......just making a joke re: "fashion" *on and off the > bike). > > Speaking of bicycles and fashion, there's gonna be a "fashion show" > featuring overpriced bike duds in Little Rock on the night of the > 29th. Look out for the Yupeleton! > > http://www.cycle-chic.com This means you owe us a full report on the event. -- Michael Press
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Date: 26 Sep 2007 17:05:41
From: landotter
Subject: Re: 10 Speed Shifters/Brake Handles Conversion Questions
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On Sep 26, 12:01 pm, Ozark Bicycle <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote: > On Sep 26, 11:39 am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sep 26, 10:56 am, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote: > > > > "Retro is the new modern" heh heh that's pithy! > > >http://tinyurl.com/2f5xpz > > What's in *your* closet? ;-) It's not a collection of self-stick Robert Goulet moustaches, if that's what you're getting at!
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Date: 26 Sep 2007 10:01:13
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: 10 Speed Shifters/Brake Handles Conversion Questions
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On Sep 26, 11:39 am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com > wrote: > On Sep 26, 10:56 am, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote: > > > "Retro is the new modern" heh heh that's pithy! > > http://tinyurl.com/2f5xpz What's in *your* closet? ;-)
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Date: 26 Sep 2007 16:39:57
From: landotter
Subject: Re: 10 Speed Shifters/Brake Handles Conversion Questions
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On Sep 26, 10:56 am, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org > wrote: > "Retro is the new modern" heh heh that's pithy! http://tinyurl.com/2f5xpz
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Date: 26 Sep 2007 02:37:46
From: landotter
Subject: Re: 10 Speed Shifters/Brake Handles Conversion Questions
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On Sep 25, 7:04 pm, mi...@dmwcc.com wrote: > I have an old 10 speed, 30+ years old. It got rebuilt with adequate > parts 15 to 20 years ago that are still durable for the limited biking > I have gotten into for exercise reasons. A friend I ride with has a > new Gary Fisher Wingra and the upright positioning and quick shifters > mounted on the upright handlebars have me jealous. He let me ride it > and it is much more comfortable as well as easier on my back. > > I'm not ready to spend $500 on a new bike for the limited riding I do > which amounts to 1 to 2 hours per week. What I do want to play with > is to update my 10 speed to the quick shifters/brake handles on > upright handlebars. Unless it's a sweet older bike (which it might be), the investment in brifters is probably going to be more money than it's worth. You *might* be able to make a cheap Sora set work with a modern rear mech and freewheel for 200 bucks or so worth of stuff. I'll let the experts chime in on that one. If I were you, I'd just update freewheel and chain to modern hyperglide, which should cost you $30 or so. This will make shifting considerably crisper. Use the old shifters and mech. Retro is the new modern. I personally prefer downtube shifters to brifters for their simplicity--but I don't compete, either. The grass is always greener and your mileage may vary.
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Date: 26 Sep 2007 10:56:31
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: 10 Speed Shifters/Brake Handles Conversion Questions
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> mi...@dmwcc.com wrote: >> I have an old 10 speed, 30+ years old. It got rebuilt with adequate >> parts 15 to 20 years ago that are still durable for the limited biking >> I have gotten into for exercise reasons. A friend I ride with has a >> new Gary Fisher Wingra and the upright positioning and quick shifters >> mounted on the upright handlebars have me jealous. He let me ride it >> and it is much more comfortable as well as easier on my back. >> I'm not ready to spend $500 on a new bike for the limited riding I do >> which amounts to 1 to 2 hours per week. What I do want to play with >> is to update my 10 speed to the quick shifters/brake handles on >> upright handlebars. landotter wrote: > Unless it's a sweet older bike (which it might be), the investment in > brifters is probably going to be more money than it's worth. You > *might* be able to make a cheap Sora set work with a modern rear mech > and freewheel for 200 bucks or so worth of stuff. I'll let the experts > chime in on that one. > > If I were you, I'd just update freewheel and chain to modern > hyperglide, which should cost you $30 or so. This will make shifting > considerably crisper. Use the old shifters and mech. Retro is the new > modern. I personally prefer downtube shifters to brifters for their > simplicity--but I don't compete, either. The grass is always greener > and your mileage may vary. "Retro is the new modern" heh heh that's pithy! -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 25 Sep 2007 23:31:04
From:
Subject: Re: 10 Speed Shifters/Brake Handles Conversion Questions
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On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 02:37:46 -0000, landotter <landotter@gmail.com > wrote: >On Sep 25, 7:04 pm, mi...@dmwcc.com wrote: >> I have an old 10 speed, 30+ years old. It got rebuilt with adequate >> parts 15 to 20 years ago that are still durable for the limited biking >> I have gotten into for exercise reasons. A friend I ride with has a >> new Gary Fisher Wingra and the upright positioning and quick shifters >> mounted on the upright handlebars have me jealous. He let me ride it >> and it is much more comfortable as well as easier on my back. >> >> I'm not ready to spend $500 on a new bike for the limited riding I do >> which amounts to 1 to 2 hours per week. What I do want to play with >> is to update my 10 speed to the quick shifters/brake handles on >> upright handlebars. > >Unless it's a sweet older bike (which it might be), the investment in >brifters is probably going to be more money than it's worth. You >*might* be able to make a cheap Sora set work with a modern rear mech >and freewheel for 200 bucks or so worth of stuff. I'll let the experts >chime in on that one. > >If I were you, I'd just update freewheel and chain to modern >hyperglide, which should cost you $30 or so. This will make shifting >considerably crisper. Use the old shifters and mech. Retro is the new >modern. I personally prefer downtube shifters to brifters for their >simplicity--but I don't compete, either. The grass is always greener >and your mileage may vary. I buy a nice "north road" style bar for $5.95 Canadian and a set of Shimano friction shifters is about $20 (to fit on the bars) Cables are about $2.50 each for brakes, $3 for shifter. I've always managed to get the brake handles used from a local community cycle shop. Add $10 - $15 if you need to buy these new. Parts cost is USUALLY significantly lower in the US than here in Canada. Total cost to convert to upright from drop-bar,(or straight mountain bar) for me, is about $40 including taxes. Nothing like an upright "tourist" style bike for an old guy!! If the frame, wheels, cranks and deraileurs are decent, it's likely worth while. I just did up an almost new McKinley mountain bike with NorthRoad bars and Wald Balloon Tire fenders for a total cost, including the bike, of about $20. It's so nice I don't want to sell it, but I've got too many to keep. I've got my Raleigh Centenial, the old Schwinn American middleweight, my "extendabike clone", the wife's Raleigh 20 shopper,my "silk road" clone tandem project (96" wheelbase, 7 speed Nexus etc), a 19" framed 26" wheel "mountain" bike for my daughter to drive when she's home (Leaves for Rwanda again in 2 weeks) as well as a Raleigh 20" wheel Mustang, a Triumph 6 speed City bike,a 19" frame 26" wheel Mixte, and a Chinese front suspension mountain bike which I'm already commited to getting rid of. Then there's the "Monkey bike" - a 16" wheeled kid's bike with front and rear hand brakes and a 3 foot long seat post - chrome frameed - that I "monkey around" with, and my 4 wheel side-by-side )something like a Rhoades Car, but better) and a haddfull of 16 and 20' KID'S BIKES THAT i'LL FIX TO SELL IN THE SPRING. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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