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Date: 13 Oct 2007 09:05:21
From: Andrew Martin
Subject: 120mm spaced internal gear hub? (more than 3sp)
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Per Sheldon:
http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/shimano-nexus.html
I want to run a 8sp internal geared hub, preferably the Alfine or
Nexus Red Band, but it looks like I'm going to have trouble getting
the frame I want in 135mm spacing (despite what pricepoint says they
carry). I've made all my plans based on 135 spacing, but I may need
to reconsider if I can't get the right frame. Anyway - has anyone
run an internal geared hub that narrow? I'll be running a rim brake,
so no drum needed if that helps.
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Date: 08 Nov 2007 06:03:40
From: Andrew Martin
Subject: Re: 120mm spaced internal gear hub? (more than 3sp)
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On Nov 7, 9:32 pm, urbanwriter <urbanwri...@gmail.com > wrote:
> In article <1192401906.761816.253...@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
> Andrew Martin <andrew.franklin.mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Oct 14, 2:09 pm, Sheldon Brown <CaptB...@sheldonbrown.com> wrote:
> > > Marten Gerrtsen wrote:
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> > > Also, the Nexus 8 shifts quite a lot better. Actually, the Nexus 8 is
> > > the best-shifting bicycle gear system I have ever experienced.
>
> > > Sheldon "Nexusate" Brown
>
> > Sold!
>
> > Assuming I can't get my On-One Pompino frame in 135 (like I intended)
> > - I'll go with the Nexus 8/HubBub/etc. I should know tomorrow.
>
> I have exactly that... back in April/07 see athttp://www.urbanwriter.net/wordpress/?p=88
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2286/1683252517_6b3f6fa010.jpg
http://bikehugger.com/2007/10/team_bikehugger_on_the_cross_c.htm
I've got the Pompino setup for SS cross. Surly hubs (for now), with a
carbon straight Redline Fork. I'll upgrade to the 8sp hub later.
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Date: 14 Oct 2007 22:45:06
From: Andrew Martin
Subject: Re: 120mm spaced internal gear hub? (more than 3sp)
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On Oct 14, 2:09 pm, Sheldon Brown <CaptB...@sheldonbrown.com > wrote:
> Marten Gerrtsen wrote:
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> Also, the Nexus 8 shifts quite a lot better. Actually, the Nexus 8 is
> the best-shifting bicycle gear system I have ever experienced.
>
> Sheldon "Nexusate" Brown
Sold!
Assuming I can't get my On-One Pompino frame in 135 (like I intended)
- I'll go with the Nexus 8/HubBub/etc. I should know tomorrow.
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Date: 08 Nov 2007 05:32:27
From: urbanwriter
Subject: Re: 120mm spaced internal gear hub? (more than 3sp)
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In article <1192401906.761816.253790@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com >,
Andrew Martin <andrew.franklin.martin@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Oct 14, 2:09 pm, Sheldon Brown <CaptB...@sheldonbrown.com> wrote:
> > Marten Gerrtsen wrote:
> >
> > Also, the Nexus 8 shifts quite a lot better. Actually, the Nexus 8 is
> > the best-shifting bicycle gear system I have ever experienced.
> >
> > Sheldon "Nexusate" Brown
>
> Sold!
>
> Assuming I can't get my On-One Pompino frame in 135 (like I intended)
> - I'll go with the Nexus 8/HubBub/etc. I should know tomorrow.
I have exactly that... back in April/07 see at
http://www.urbanwriter.net/wordpress/?p=88
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Date: 14 Oct 2007 21:09:31
From: Sheldon Brown
Subject: Re: 120mm spaced internal gear hub? (more than 3sp)
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Marten Gerrtsen wrote:
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> without brake and with a thin locknut a Nexus 8 is 123mm
Right. My Raleigh International is spaced at 120, but I had no
problem fitting a brakeless Nexus 8 into it. It's a delightful bike,
I really enjoyed riding it with that hub.
http://sheldonbrown.org/raleigh-international
The Sturmey-Archer 8-speed is a good choice for small-wheel bikes,
like my Raleigh Twenty:
http://sheldonbrown.org/raleigh-twenty
However, I wouldn't recommend it for a bike with full-sized wheels,
due to its peculiar gearing.
Also, the Nexus 8 shifts quite a lot better. Actually, the Nexus 8 is
the best-shifting bicycle gear system I have ever experienced.
Sheldon "Nexusate" Brown
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Date: 15 Oct 2007 02:48:57
From: bob prohaska's usenet account
Subject: Re: 120mm spaced internal gear hub? (more than 3sp)
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Sheldon Brown <CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com > wrote:
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> Also, the Nexus 8 shifts quite a lot better. Actually, the Nexus 8 is
> the best-shifting bicycle gear system I have ever experienced.
>
Is there a break-in period? My red-band nexus shifts in a decidedly
uncertain way, feeling at times as if it overshifted and then dropped
back in gearing. I'm careful to ease off during shifts, but still the
impression which results is that a strong rider, standing on the pedals,
could do some damange without trying. The dealer adjusted it, but didn't
really seem to think the problem would go away.
The bike has very few miles on it, probably between 500 and 1k. If the
shifting improves I'll be very happy.
I do agree it's an excellent shifting scheme, mostly because it allows
standing downshifts. If somebody could devise a deraillur that shifted
at standstill (which I can't imagine!) the Nexus would have real
competition.
bob prohaska
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Date: 14 Oct 2007 08:36:54
From: M-gineering
Subject: Re: 120mm spaced internal gear hub? (more than 3sp)
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Andrew Martin wrote:
> Per Sheldon:
> http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/shimano-nexus.html
>
> I want to run a 8sp internal geared hub, preferably the Alfine or
> Nexus Red Band, but it looks like I'm going to have trouble getting
> the frame I want in 135mm spacing (despite what pricepoint says they
> carry). I've made all my plans based on 135 spacing, but I may need
> to reconsider if I can't get the right frame. Anyway - has anyone
> run an internal geared hub that narrow? I'll be running a rim brake,
> so no drum needed if that helps.
>
without brake and with a thin locknut a NExus 8 is 123mm
--
/Marten
info(apestaartje)m-gineering(punt)nl
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Date: 14 Oct 2007 04:32:52
From: Chalo
Subject: Re: 120mm spaced internal gear hub? (more than 3sp)
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Andrew Martin wrote:
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> I want to run a 8sp internal geared hub, preferably the Alfine or
> Nexus Red Band, but it looks like I'm going to have trouble getting
> the frame I want in 135mm spacing (despite what pricepoint says they
> carry). I've made all my plans based on 135 spacing, but I may need
> to reconsider if I can't get the right frame. Anyway - has anyone
> run an internal geared hub that narrow? I'll be running a rim brake,
> so no drum needed if that helps.
The SRAM 5-speed hub is narrow-- varying from 122mm to 126mm based on
what kind of brake it has. I used a Sachs Pentasport coaster brake 5-
speed on my GF's (now wife's) bike, which came originally equipped
with a 110mm coaster brake hub. The hub has been great-- smooth,
quiet, rugged and reliable. The original shifter and clickbox were
utter junk, though. My sweetie could hardly ever get the thing to
shift into low gear until we replaced the shifter/clickbox with a
nicer quality unit. Maybe the latest models come with the upgraded
shifter, or maybe not. Either way, it is something to be aware of
should problems arise later.
The no-brake SRAM P5 hub runs 123mm wide, so it should fit into a
120mm frame without modification of either part. It has the same
overall range as the Shimano Nexus 7 hub, but with slightly larger
jumps between gears.
Chalo
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Date: 14 Oct 2007 01:31:19
From: James Thomson
Subject: Re: 120mm spaced internal gear hub? (more than 3sp)
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"Andrew Martin" <andrew.franklin.martin@gmail.com > a écrit:
> I want to run a 8sp internal geared hub, preferably the Alfine or
> Nexus Red Band, but it looks like I'm going to have trouble getting
> the frame I want in 135mm spacing.
Sturmey Archer make the XRF5 in a 113.7mm version (add spacers to taste) and
the XRF8 in 116.0mm.
http://www.sturmey-archer.com/hubs_5spd_XRF5.php
http://www.sturmey-archer.com/hubs_8spd_XRF8.php
James Thomson
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Date: 13 Oct 2007 17:07:00
From: landotter
Subject: Re: 120mm spaced internal gear hub? (more than 3sp)
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On Oct 13, 11:05 am, Andrew Martin <andrew.franklin.mar...@gmail.com >
wrote:
> Per Sheldon:http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/shimano-nexus.html
>
> I want to run a 8sp internal geared hub, preferably the Alfine or
> Nexus Red Band, but it looks like I'm going to have trouble getting
> the frame I want in 135mm spacing (despite what pricepoint says they
> carry). I've made all my plans based on 135 spacing, but I may need
> to reconsider if I can't get the right frame. Anyway - has anyone
> run an internal geared hub that narrow? I'll be running a rim brake,
> so no drum needed if that helps.
Captain bike says that you can remove some spacers and bits to easily
make a Sturmey Archer hub fit. They make an 8 spd as well.
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