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Date: 14 Jul 2007 23:41:22
From: mtb Dad
Subject: 2003 Jamais Eclipse steel and carbon
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Anyone heard how these are? One listed on ebay right now.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270145387269&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:CA:1
Thanks
L
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 19:18:02
From: mtb Dad
Subject: Re: 2003 Jamis Eclipse steel and carbon
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Thanks all.
jim beam
I'm thinking of this because I like my old 80's era columbus bike, but
it's heavy, and missing lots of paint now. While I have no experience
riding aluminum (or anything other than steel actually), I like the
way the steel bike rides and figure this might be a way to get that
with a little less weight.
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 19:56:18
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: 2003 Jamis Eclipse steel and carbon
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mtb Dad wrote:
> Thanks all.
>
> jim beam
> I'm thinking of this because I like my old 80's era columbus bike, but
> it's heavy, and missing lots of paint now. While I have no experience
> riding aluminum (or anything other than steel actually), I like the
> way the steel bike rides and figure this might be a way to get that
> with a little less weight.
>
noted, but regarding the "like the way it rides" sentiment, you need to
try the other stuff for informed comparison. my aluminum bianchi is a
gorgeous ride - not harsh at all. in fact, it's considerably less harsh
than my steel della santa, only with greater torsional stiffness. don't
get me wrong - i like steel, but aluminum is better.
and i'm serious about the shimmy thing. i spent a year off the bike
thanks to a cracked femoral neck. the frame was standard size [30mm
down tube] thin wall steel just like the subject, and it shimmied like a
sob. larger diameter steel helps [della santa and a 36mm diameter down
tube], but the bianchi and its 47mm's have the d*s beat.
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 23:50:44
From: Luigi de Guzman
Subject: Re: 2003 Jamis Eclipse steel and carbon
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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:48:12 -0500, Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> Why would anyone want to ruin a nice steel frame with carbon fiber
> composite stays?
I don't know, I think it's actually rather pretty. If I were lighter and
faster, I'd consider getting one myself.
Kind of reminds me of a Merlin Cielo--the Cielo has carbon fiber frame
tubes in Ti lugs.
--
Luigi de Guzman
http://ouij.livejournal.com
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 08:56:01
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: 2003 Jamais Eclipse steel and carbon
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mtb Dad wrote:
> Anyone heard how these are? One listed on ebay right now.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270145387269&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:CA:1
>
> Thanks
> L
>
i have no comment on this specific frame, but i note that it's a thin
wall steel tube, and that it doesn't appear to use oversize tube
diameter. on that basis, i say be very careful. my personal experience
with large [60cm +] frames built of this material is that they tend to
have a problem with shimmy. although strong, thin wall steel tends to
be quite elastic offering decreased torsional rigidity and thus just the
the kind of increased flex of which shimmy is a symptom.
for myself therefore, i would not buy. i would instead look for a frame
with a larger diameter tubeset. i have a couple of large diameter tube
aluminum frames which are both superior in shimmy to any steel frame
i've ever had - and i've had [have] some nice ones!
if you were looking at this frame because of potential for a cheap deal,
i think you'll have much better luck with one of the nashbar [aluminum]
frames. i've been commuting on one for about 5 years now. cheap.
nasty. takes the abuse. impossible to shimmy!
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 08:27:45
From: andresmuro@aol.com
Subject: Re: 2003 Jamais Eclipse steel and carbon
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On Jul 15, 12:41 am, mtb Dad <listerfar...@telus.net > wrote:
> Anyone heard how these are? One listed on ebay right now.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270145387269&ssPage...
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> Thanks
> L
nice frame from a well established brand. reasonable price for a for a
new 853 with carbon stays and fork. if it is your size, go for it.
Jamis is a well known brand even if the two clowns above tell you
otherwise after waking up early with a hangover from too much cheap
tequila.
Andres
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 10:48:12
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: 2003 Jamis Eclipse steel and carbon
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andresmuro@aol.com aka Andres Muro wrote:
> On Jul 15, 12:41 am, mtb Dad <listerfar...@telus.net> wrote:
>> Anyone heard how these are? One listed on ebay right now.
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270145387269&ssPage...
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>> Thanks
>> L
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> nice frame from a well established brand. reasonable price for a for a
> new 853 with carbon stays and fork. if it is your size, go for it.
> Jamis is a well known brand even if the two clowns above tell you
> otherwise after waking up early with a hangover from too much cheap
> tequila.
Why would anyone want to ruin a nice steel frame with carbon fiber
composite stays?
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 11:58:09
From: Just A User
Subject: Re: 2003 Jamis Eclipse steel and carbon
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Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> andresmuro@aol.com aka Andres Muro wrote:
>> On Jul 15, 12:41 am, mtb Dad <listerfar...@telus.net> wrote:
>>> Anyone heard how these are? One listed on ebay right now.
>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270145387269&ssPage...
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> L
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>> nice frame from a well established brand. reasonable price for a for a
>> new 853 with carbon stays and fork. if it is your size, go for it.
>> Jamis is a well known brand even if the two clowns above tell you
>> otherwise after waking up early with a hangover from too much cheap
>> tequila.
>
> Why would anyone want to ruin a nice steel frame with carbon fiber
> composite stays?
>
Yeah it kind of doesn't make much sense does it. It would have limited
use as a commuting / touring bike, but with a steel frame it would be
too heavy to be a good racer.
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 03:58:03
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: 2003 Jamais Eclipse steel and carbon
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On Jul 15, 5:51 am, Sandy <leur...@free.fr > wrote:
> mtb Dad a =E9crit :> Anyone heard how these are? One listed on ebay righ=
t now.
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> >http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D270145387269&ssPage.=
.=2E
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> > Thanks
> > L
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> Never!
Not ever? Or just hardly ever?
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 12:51:57
From: Sandy
Subject: Re: 2003 Jamais Eclipse steel and carbon
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mtb Dad a écrit :
> Anyone heard how these are? One listed on ebay right now.
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> http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270145387269&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:CA:1
>
> Thanks
> L
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>
Never!
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