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Date: 14 Aug 2007 19:11:10
From: Friar Broccoli
Subject: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
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Hi;
Would some kind soul please point me to a site that gives clear
simple instructions on how to adjust these new fangled gear
shifters, which we are all now forced to use; the ones that have
fixed settings for each gear.
I know that the adjustment is done by lengthening and shortening
the cable, and that it is essential to get the top and bottom
ones right. Mostly what I don't understand is how one
determines that the chain is exactly aligned up with a gear.
I am trying to adjust my wife's rear gears because it is obvious
that the guy at the shop she uses has no idea how to do it.
Friar Broccoli
Robert Keith Elias, Quebec, Canada Email: EliasRK (of) gmail * com
Best programmer's & all purpose text editor: http://www.semware.com
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Date: 19 Aug 2007 14:53:44
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
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On Aug 19, 3:11 pm, RonSonic <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com > wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:47:22 -0500, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
>
> <sunsetss0...@innvalid.com> wrote:
> >RonSonic wrote:
> >> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:27:52 -0000, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> ...
> >>> When someone helps me, I feel a sense of obligation.
> >>> My comment to Tom was intended mostly as an observation
> >>> on how his comment appeared to an outsider.
>
> >> It's probably been explained to him before without effect....
>
> >Would not a typical outsider be curious why posting a link to Sheldon
> >Brown's website would annoy Ozark Bicycle?
>
> He wouldn't call the guy Richard either. You've been arguing with Ozbike for a
> few years also, did you know his name? I sure didn't. I suppose I could've
> googled the guy, but I never saw a need.
>
> Ron
Nothing to "google", Ron; if you're using the Google Usenet interface,
just click on 'profile' and Viola! there it is.
The idea that the OP in this thread is some kind of sockpuppet, shill,
etc., speaks to the absolutely idiotic and rather sad state of mind of
some who post here. Go to the Google Usenet interface and click on his
profile, where you will discover the (gasp!) he is far from a new
person on Usenet.
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Date: 19 Aug 2007 20:07:08
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:53:44 -0700, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
>On Aug 19, 3:11 pm, RonSonic <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:47:22 -0500, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
>>
>> <sunsetss0...@innvalid.com> wrote:
>> >RonSonic wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:27:52 -0000, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> ...
>> >>> When someone helps me, I feel a sense of obligation.
>> >>> My comment to Tom was intended mostly as an observation
>> >>> on how his comment appeared to an outsider.
>>
>> >> It's probably been explained to him before without effect....
>>
>> >Would not a typical outsider be curious why posting a link to Sheldon
>> >Brown's website would annoy Ozark Bicycle?
>>
>> He wouldn't call the guy Richard either. You've been arguing with Ozbike for a
>> few years also, did you know his name? I sure didn't. I suppose I could've
>> googled the guy, but I never saw a need.
>>
>> Ron
>
>Nothing to "google", Ron; if you're using the Google Usenet interface,
>just click on 'profile' and Viola! there it is.
Could it possibly be more obvious that I am not and never have used the "Google
Usenet interface." Don't know what went on in AOL either.
Ron
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Date: 19 Aug 2007 20:20:25
From: Tom \Johnny Sunset\ Sherman
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
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RonSonic wrote:
>
> Could it possibly be more obvious that I am not and never have used the "Google
> Usenet interface."
That would require viewing of current and past headers.
> Don't know what went on in AOL either.
Weird quoting in AOL, as demonstrated in the past by Peter Chisholm.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
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Date: 19 Aug 2007 18:14:40
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
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RonSonic wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:53:44 -0700, Ozark Bicycle
> <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
>> Nothing to "google", Ron; if you're using the Google Usenet
>> interface, just click on 'profile' and Viola! there it is.
> Could it possibly be more obvious that I am not and never have used
> the "Google Usenet interface." Don't know what went on in AOL either.
Ozark plays a stringed instrument?
Bill "I'll wait for it" S.
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Date: 19 Aug 2007 20:18:50
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 20:07:08 -0400, RonSonic
<ronsonic@tampabay.rr.com > wrote:
>On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:53:44 -0700, Ozark Bicycle
><bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
>
>>On Aug 19, 3:11 pm, RonSonic <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:47:22 -0500, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
>>>
>>> <sunsetss0...@innvalid.com> wrote:
>>> >RonSonic wrote:
>>> >> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:27:52 -0000, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>> ...
>>> >>> When someone helps me, I feel a sense of obligation.
>>> >>> My comment to Tom was intended mostly as an observation
>>> >>> on how his comment appeared to an outsider.
>>>
>>> >> It's probably been explained to him before without effect....
>>>
>>> >Would not a typical outsider be curious why posting a link to Sheldon
>>> >Brown's website would annoy Ozark Bicycle?
>>>
>>> He wouldn't call the guy Richard either. You've been arguing with Ozbike for a
>>> few years also, did you know his name? I sure didn't. I suppose I could've
>>> googled the guy, but I never saw a need.
>>>
>>> Ron
>>
>>Nothing to "google", Ron; if you're using the Google Usenet interface,
>>just click on 'profile' and Viola! there it is.
>
>Could it possibly be more obvious that I am not and never have used the "Google
>Usenet interface."
Do you ever look at archives of this group?
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Date: 20 Aug 2007 08:26:42
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 20:18:50 -0400, John Forrest Tomlinson
<usenetremove@jt10000.com > wrote:
>On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 20:07:08 -0400, RonSonic
><ronsonic@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:53:44 -0700, Ozark Bicycle
>><bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Aug 19, 3:11 pm, RonSonic <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:47:22 -0500, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
>>>>
>>>> <sunsetss0...@innvalid.com> wrote:
>>>> >RonSonic wrote:
>>>> >> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:27:52 -0000, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>> ...
>>>> >>> When someone helps me, I feel a sense of obligation.
>>>> >>> My comment to Tom was intended mostly as an observation
>>>> >>> on how his comment appeared to an outsider.
>>>>
>>>> >> It's probably been explained to him before without effect....
>>>>
>>>> >Would not a typical outsider be curious why posting a link to Sheldon
>>>> >Brown's website would annoy Ozark Bicycle?
>>>>
>>>> He wouldn't call the guy Richard either. You've been arguing with Ozbike for a
>>>> few years also, did you know his name? I sure didn't. I suppose I could've
>>>> googled the guy, but I never saw a need.
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>
>>>Nothing to "google", Ron; if you're using the Google Usenet interface,
>>>just click on 'profile' and Viola! there it is.
>>
>>Could it possibly be more obvious that I am not and never have used the "Google
>>Usenet interface."
>
>Do you ever look at archives of this group?
Yes, somehow I seem to have done it in an environment that doesn't include user
profiles or other such.
Ron
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Date: 20 Aug 2007 08:57:17
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
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RonSonic wrote:
>> Do you ever look at archives of this group?
> Yes, somehow I seem to have done it in an environment that doesn't
> include user profiles or other such.
Apparently, for some people hundreds of new posts a day aren't enough; they
have to also go back and read old crap, too.
Curious, curious, curious...
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Date: 17 Aug 2007 17:17:45
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
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On Aug 16, 8:15 pm, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> What fucking bunch we have here: a guy asks a simple question about a
> bike. Someone (in this case, me) gives him some some simple guidance
> and then a shitstorm erupts!
>
> Geez.....
You are not stranger to initiating and participating in "shitstorms".
Don't complain when you get some on you, please. Thanks! --D-y
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Date: 17 Aug 2007 17:15:53
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
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On Aug 17, 6:27 pm, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com > wrote:
> Over the years I've gotten into a lot of real trouble from this:
> but I believe I am helping others when I describe how their
> behavior appears to me as an outside observer.
Behavior.
That's where I came in.
So, did you look at Sheldon's site IRT your original question?
"Behavior", you don't have to take my word for. Google.
The truth will set you free. --D-y
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Date: 17 Aug 2007 23:27:52
From: Friar Broccoli
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
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On Aug 16, 7:26 pm, RonSonic <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com > wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:26:45 -0000, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 15, 12:15 am, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
> ><sunsetss0...@invailid.com> wrote:
> >> Ozark Bicycle - 100% Service and 0% "Attitude" - wrote:
>
> >> > On Aug 14, 2:11 pm, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Hi;
>
> >> >> Would some kind soul please point me to a site that gives clear
> >> >> simple instructions on how to adjust these new fangled gear
> >> >> shifters, which we are all now forced to use; the ones that have
> >> >> fixed settings for each gear.
>
> >> >> I know that the adjustment is done by lengthening and shortening
> >> >> the cable, and that it is essential to get the top and bottom
> >> >> ones right. Mostly what I don't understand is how one
> >> >> determines that the chain is exactly aligned up with a gear.
>
> >> >> I am trying to adjust my wife's rear gears because it is obvious
> >> >> that the guy at the shop she uses has no idea how to do it.
>
> >> > Start here:
>
> >> >http://www.parktool.com/repair/byregion.asp
>
> >> > click on "derailleur systems" and go from there.
>
> >> > You might want to "bookmark" the Park site; IMO, it's the best source
> >> > of bicycle "how to" info on the internet.
>
> >> Also bookmark <http://www.sheldonbrown.com/> because:
>
> >> 1. It is also an excellent source of bicycle information.
> >> 2. Mentioning Sheldon's site annoys Ozark Bicycle. ;)
>
> >> For your specific problem: <http://sheldonbrown.com/gearing/index.html>.
>
> >Thank you for the reference.
> >I found the page good and a useful alternate perspective.
>
> >However, #2 above just makes you look petty and vindictive
> >to someone like me who is completely unaware of your past
> >conflicts, especially since Richard's information was timely
> >and useful.
>
> Who is this "Richard" you speak of?
>
> If you mean Ozark Bike Guy then I have to wonder how you can play the innocent
> newb.
Richard provided you with a tiny URL for this, which is what I used:
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=o7IxkiYAAABTamGga9ikhTAMekv29HRhsUaMrqV_R0zRcbNauuL6v74UPAi2DcSo_v_iFBzTiEo
I am 56 years old, and have at least 10 years experience with UseNet,
post to it fairly extensively, now mostly in Talk.Origins trying to
explain evolution to creationists.
I wasn't trying to appear to be a Newbee, just polite, and I am
certainly not innocent.
When someone helps me, I feel a sense of obligation.
My comment to Tom was intended mostly as an observation
on how his comment appeared to an outsider.
Over the years I've gotten into a lot of real trouble from this:
but I believe I am helping others when I describe how their
behavior appears to me as an outside observer.
Cordially;
Friar Broccoli
Robert Keith Elias, Quebec, Canada Email: EliasRK (of) gmail * com
Best programmer's & all purpose text editor: http://www.semware.com
--------- I consider ALL arguments in support of my views ---------
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Date: 18 Aug 2007 19:22:40
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:27:52 -0000, Friar Broccoli <EliasRK@gmail.com > wrote:
>On Aug 16, 7:26 pm, RonSonic <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:26:45 -0000, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Aug 15, 12:15 am, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
>> ><sunsetss0...@invailid.com> wrote:
>> >> Ozark Bicycle - 100% Service and 0% "Attitude" - wrote:
>>
>> >> > On Aug 14, 2:11 pm, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Hi;
>>
>> >> >> Would some kind soul please point me to a site that gives clear
>> >> >> simple instructions on how to adjust these new fangled gear
>> >> >> shifters, which we are all now forced to use; the ones that have
>> >> >> fixed settings for each gear.
>>
>> >> >> I know that the adjustment is done by lengthening and shortening
>> >> >> the cable, and that it is essential to get the top and bottom
>> >> >> ones right. Mostly what I don't understand is how one
>> >> >> determines that the chain is exactly aligned up with a gear.
>>
>> >> >> I am trying to adjust my wife's rear gears because it is obvious
>> >> >> that the guy at the shop she uses has no idea how to do it.
>>
>> >> > Start here:
>>
>> >> >http://www.parktool.com/repair/byregion.asp
>>
>> >> > click on "derailleur systems" and go from there.
>>
>> >> > You might want to "bookmark" the Park site; IMO, it's the best source
>> >> > of bicycle "how to" info on the internet.
>>
>> >> Also bookmark <http://www.sheldonbrown.com/> because:
>>
>> >> 1. It is also an excellent source of bicycle information.
>> >> 2. Mentioning Sheldon's site annoys Ozark Bicycle. ;)
>>
>> >> For your specific problem: <http://sheldonbrown.com/gearing/index.html>.
>>
>> >Thank you for the reference.
>> >I found the page good and a useful alternate perspective.
>>
>> >However, #2 above just makes you look petty and vindictive
>> >to someone like me who is completely unaware of your past
>> >conflicts, especially since Richard's information was timely
>> >and useful.
>>
>> Who is this "Richard" you speak of?
>>
>> If you mean Ozark Bike Guy then I have to wonder how you can play the innocent
>> newb.
>
>Richard provided you with a tiny URL for this, which is what I used:
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=o7IxkiYAAABTamGga9ikhTAMekv29HRhsUaMrqV_R0zRcbNauuL6v74UPAi2DcSo_v_iFBzTiEo
He did provide that after I wondered aloud why you called him "Richard."
>I am 56 years old, and have at least 10 years experience with UseNet,
>post to it fairly extensively, now mostly in Talk.Origins trying to
>explain evolution to creationists.
Hmmm. The problem originates from using a book of truths as if it were a book of
facts. If you want facts get an almanac.
>When someone helps me, I feel a sense of obligation.
>My comment to Tom was intended mostly as an observation
>on how his comment appeared to an outsider.
It's probably been explained to him before without effect.
>Over the years I've gotten into a lot of real trouble from this:
>but I believe I am helping others when I describe how their
>behavior appears to me as an outside observer.
Don't know if it helps much but I'm sure it keeps things interesting.
Best
Ron
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Date: 18 Aug 2007 18:47:22
From: Tom \Johnny Sunset\ Sherman
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
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RonSonic wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:27:52 -0000, Friar Broccoli <EliasRK@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ...
>> When someone helps me, I feel a sense of obligation.
>> My comment to Tom was intended mostly as an observation
>> on how his comment appeared to an outsider.
>
> It's probably been explained to him before without effect....
Would not a typical outsider be curious why posting a link to Sheldon
Brown's website would annoy Ozark Bicycle?
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
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Date: 19 Aug 2007 16:11:00
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:47:22 -0500, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
<sunsetss0003@innvalid.com > wrote:
>RonSonic wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:27:52 -0000, Friar Broccoli <EliasRK@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ...
>>> When someone helps me, I feel a sense of obligation.
>>> My comment to Tom was intended mostly as an observation
>>> on how his comment appeared to an outsider.
>>
>> It's probably been explained to him before without effect....
>
>Would not a typical outsider be curious why posting a link to Sheldon
>Brown's website would annoy Ozark Bicycle?
He wouldn't call the guy Richard either. You've been arguing with Ozbike for a
few years also, did you know his name? I sure didn't. I suppose I could've
googled the guy, but I never saw a need.
Ron
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Date: 19 Aug 2007 18:09:45
From: Tom \Johnny Sunset\ Sherman
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
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RonSonic wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:47:22 -0500, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
> <sunsetss0003@innvalid.com> wrote:
>
>> RonSonic wrote:
>>> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:27:52 -0000, Friar Broccoli <EliasRK@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ...
>>>> When someone helps me, I feel a sense of obligation.
>>>> My comment to Tom was intended mostly as an observation
>>>> on how his comment appeared to an outsider.
>>> It's probably been explained to him before without effect....
>> Would not a typical outsider be curious why posting a link to Sheldon
>> Brown's website would annoy Ozark Bicycle?
>
> He wouldn't call the guy Richard either. You've been arguing with Ozbike for a
> few years also, did you know his name? I sure didn't. I suppose I could've
> googled the guy, but I never saw a need.
The most I did was check the Ozark Bicycle Service web page out of
curiosity. I did not see the proprietor's name there and did not look
farther.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
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Date: 17 Aug 2007 20:51:30
From: Tom \Johnny Sunset\ Sherman
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
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Friar Broccoli aka Robert Keith Elias wrote:
> On Aug 16, 7:26 pm, RonSonic <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> Who is this "Richard" you speak of?
>>
>> If you mean Ozark Bike Guy then I have to wonder how you can play the innocent
>> newb.
>
> Richard provided you with a tiny URL for this, which is what I used:
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=o7IxkiYAAABTamGga9ikhTAMekv29HRhsUaMrqV_R0zRcbNauuL6v74UPAi2DcSo_v_iFBzTiEo
>
> I am 56 years old, and have at least 10 years experience with UseNet,
> post to it fairly extensively, now mostly in Talk.Origins trying to
> explain evolution to creationists.
>
> I wasn't trying to appear to be a Newbee, just polite, and I am
> certainly not innocent.
>
> When someone helps me, I feel a sense of obligation.
> My comment to Tom was intended mostly as an observation
> on how his comment appeared to an outsider....
The comment was intended for the regulars, who are well aware of "Ozark
Bicycle" flaming people for mentioning Sheldon Brown (among other
things) or posting links to Sheldon's website.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
BEER IS FOOD
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 18:15:01
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
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On Aug 16, 6:26 pm, RonSonic <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com > wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:26:45 -0000, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 15, 12:15 am, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
> ><sunsetss0...@invailid.com> wrote:
> >> Ozark Bicycle - 100% Service and 0% "Attitude" - wrote:
>
> >> > On Aug 14, 2:11 pm, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Hi;
>
> >> >> Would some kind soul please point me to a site that gives clear
> >> >> simple instructions on how to adjust these new fangled gear
> >> >> shifters, which we are all now forced to use; the ones that have
> >> >> fixed settings for each gear.
>
> >> >> I know that the adjustment is done by lengthening and shortening
> >> >> the cable, and that it is essential to get the top and bottom
> >> >> ones right. Mostly what I don't understand is how one
> >> >> determines that the chain is exactly aligned up with a gear.
>
> >> >> I am trying to adjust my wife's rear gears because it is obvious
> >> >> that the guy at the shop she uses has no idea how to do it.
>
> >> > Start here:
>
> >> >http://www.parktool.com/repair/byregion.asp
>
> >> > click on "derailleur systems" and go from there.
>
> >> > You might want to "bookmark" the Park site; IMO, it's the best source
> >> > of bicycle "how to" info on the internet.
>
> >> Also bookmark <http://www.sheldonbrown.com/> because:
>
> >> 1. It is also an excellent source of bicycle information.
> >> 2. Mentioning Sheldon's site annoys Ozark Bicycle. ;)
>
> >> For your specific problem: <http://sheldonbrown.com/gearing/index.html>.
>
> >Thank you for the reference.
> >I found the page good and a useful alternate perspective.
>
> >However, #2 above just makes you look petty and vindictive
> >to someone like me who is completely unaware of your past
> >conflicts, especially since Richard's information was timely
> >and useful.
>
> Who is this "Richard" you speak of?
>
> If you mean Ozark Bike Guy then I have to wonder how you can play the innocent
> newb.
>
>
Perhaps the answer lies here:
http://tinyurl.com/25wpac
for the timid:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/25wpac
Or is that too simple an explanation for ya? do you prefer cloaks,
daggers, plots, sockpuppets, etc.,etc.?
What fucking bunch we have here: a guy asks a simple question about a
bike. Someone (in this case, me) gives him some some simple guidance
and then a shitstorm erupts!
Geez.....
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Date: 18 Aug 2007 19:29:03
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:15:01 -0700, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
>> >However, #2 above just makes you look petty and vindictive
>> >to someone like me who is completely unaware of your past
>> >conflicts, especially since Richard's information was timely
>> >and useful.
>>
>> Who is this "Richard" you speak of?
>>
>> If you mean Ozark Bike Guy then I have to wonder how you can play the innocent
>> newb.
>>
>>
>
>Perhaps the answer lies here:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/25wpac
>
>for the timid:
>
>http://preview.tinyurl.com/25wpac
>
>Or is that too simple an explanation for ya? do you prefer cloaks,
>daggers, plots, sockpuppets, etc.,etc.?
Dude, a guy comes in and posts for the first time. On his second post he knows
your name which a quick google search shows you to have not given in this group.
It looked hinky, so I asked.
Ron
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 06:53:29
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
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On Aug 15, 8:33 pm, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> Welcome to RBT. Sometimes the children become cross when the adults
> are talking. ;-)
Called you on the Sheldon Brown problem, called you on the 12 problem.
Reaction recorded.
Adult? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Thanks, coffee is ready. That was a good one! --D-y
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 06:51:16
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
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On Aug 15, 7:51 pm, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com > wrote:
> Doing my best to ignore the other part of this thread.
Choose your friends carefully.
Told you about Sheldon, told you about the 12. --D-y
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Date: 15 Aug 2007 20:08:14
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
|
On Aug 15, 9:59 pm, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org > wrote:
> Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman wrote:
> > Earlier today Ozark Bicycle wrote about me, "You're right, I don't
> "get"
>
> > how anyone can be such a lameass loser as you, Tom."
>
> Oh crap. Now you've done it.
>
> We'll have to read about your sins of 'divulging private email' for the
> rest of our natural lives.
> --
He is especially whiny of late, eh?
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Date: 15 Aug 2007 18:33:33
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
|
On Aug 15, 7:51 pm, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Aug 15, 1:38 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
>
>
> <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 15, 11:38 am, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 14, 3:23 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
> > > <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> > > > On Aug 14, 2:11 pm, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Hi;
>
> > > > > Would some kind soul please point me to a site that gives clear
> > > > > simple instructions on how to adjust these new fangled gear
> > > > > shifters, which we are all now forced to use; the ones that have
> > > > > fixed settings for each gear.
>
> > > > > I know that the adjustment is done by lengthening and shortening
> > > > > the cable, and that it is essential to get the top and bottom
> > > > > ones right. Mostly what I don't understand is how one
> > > > > determines that the chain is exactly aligned up with a gear.
>
> > > > > I am trying to adjust my wife's rear gears because it is obvious
> > > > > that the guy at the shop she uses has no idea how to do it.
>
> > > > Start here:
>
> > > >http://www.parktool.com/repair/byregion.asp
>
> > > > click on "derailleur systems" and go from there.
>
> > > > You might want to "bookmark" the Park site; IMO, it's the best source
> > > > of bicycle "how to" info on the internet.
>
> > > I noticed that my wife's bike has 9 gear disks (cassettes (?))
> > > but 10 indexes on her shifter. Is this normal and acceptable?
>
> > So long as the chain shifts cleanly accros the cassette, yes, there is
> > often an "extra click" on shifters. Just be sure to adjust the RD
> > limit screws to keep the chain on the cogs.
>
> Thanks;
>
> Doing my best to ignore the other part of this thread.
Welcome to RBT. Sometimes the children become cross when the adults
are talking. ;-)
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 00:51:30
From: Friar Broccoli
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
|
On Aug 15, 1:38 pm, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Aug 15, 11:38 am, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 14, 3:23 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
> > <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> > > On Aug 14, 2:11 pm, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi;
>
> > > > Would some kind soul please point me to a site that gives clear
> > > > simple instructions on how to adjust these new fangled gear
> > > > shifters, which we are all now forced to use; the ones that have
> > > > fixed settings for each gear.
>
> > > > I know that the adjustment is done by lengthening and shortening
> > > > the cable, and that it is essential to get the top and bottom
> > > > ones right. Mostly what I don't understand is how one
> > > > determines that the chain is exactly aligned up with a gear.
>
> > > > I am trying to adjust my wife's rear gears because it is obvious
> > > > that the guy at the shop she uses has no idea how to do it.
>
> > > Start here:
>
> > >http://www.parktool.com/repair/byregion.asp
>
> > > click on "derailleur systems" and go from there.
>
> > > You might want to "bookmark" the Park site; IMO, it's the best source
> > > of bicycle "how to" info on the internet.
>
> > I noticed that my wife's bike has 9 gear disks (cassettes (?))
> > but 10 indexes on her shifter. Is this normal and acceptable?
>
> So long as the chain shifts cleanly accros the cassette, yes, there is
> often an "extra click" on shifters. Just be sure to adjust the RD
> limit screws to keep the chain on the cogs.
Thanks;
Doing my best to ignore the other part of this thread.
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Date: 15 Aug 2007 15:58:55
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
|
Was that *two* last words, 'Zarkie? You've outdone yourself!
Go for three? A good word for Sheldon Brown on the way out? --D-y
On Aug 15, 4:45 pm, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Aug 15, 4:26 pm, "dustoyev...@mac.com" <dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> -and the schoolboy level drivel flows -
>
> > Hey, OP-- was I right about 'Zarkie's 12 problem?
>
> <some drivel snipped>
>
>
>
> > Hey, OP-- see what I mean?
>
> LOL!!! You're a hoot, Walter, in a pathetic sorta way.
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Date: 15 Aug 2007 14:45:18
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
|
On Aug 15, 4:26 pm, "dustoyev...@mac.com" <dustoyev...@mac.com > wrote:
-and the schoolboy level drivel flows -
> Hey, OP-- was I right about 'Zarkie's 12 problem?
>
<some drivel snipped >
>
> Hey, OP-- see what I mean?
>
>
LOL!!! You're a hoot, Walter, in a pathetic sorta way.
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Date: 15 Aug 2007 14:26:55
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
|
Hey, OP-- was I right about 'Zarkie's 12 problem?
I've never asked what he thinks about 11's. Oh well, another day!
(O-zar gets the last word) (Yeah, quoting, but it's all repetition
anyhow):
On Aug 15, 2:30 pm, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
Hey, OP-- see what I mean?
> On Aug 15, 1:50 pm, "dustoyev...@mac.com" <dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 15, 12:42 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
> > <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> > > On Aug 15, 12:05 pm, "dustoyev...@mac.com" <dustoyev...@mac.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Aug 15, 9:26 am, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > However, #2 above just makes you look petty and vindictive
> > > > > to someone like me who is completely unaware of your past
> > > > > conflicts, especially since Richard's information was timely
> > > > > and useful.
>
> > > <juvenile drivel deleted>
>
> > > Troll much, Walter?
>
> <additional deletion of additional drivel>
>
> Perhaps if you rode your bike more and trolled less, you'd work off
> all that adolescent hostility....
>
> Oh, and you might even actually be able to use that 53x12 for
> something other than show.
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Date: 15 Aug 2007 12:30:28
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
|
On Aug 15, 1:50 pm, "dustoyev...@mac.com" <dustoyev...@mac.com > wrote:
> On Aug 15, 12:42 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
> <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 15, 12:05 pm, "dustoyev...@mac.com" <dustoyev...@mac.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 15, 9:26 am, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > However, #2 above just makes you look petty and vindictive
> > > > to someone like me who is completely unaware of your past
> > > > conflicts, especially since Richard's information was timely
> > > > and useful.
>
> > <juvenile drivel deleted>
>
> > Troll much, Walter?
>
>
<additional deletion of additional drivel >
Perhaps if you rode your bike more and trolled less, you'd work off
all that adolescent hostility....
Oh, and you might even actually be able to use that 53x12 for
something other than show.
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Date: 15 Aug 2007 11:50:59
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
|
On Aug 15, 12:42 pm, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Aug 15, 12:05 pm, "dustoyev...@mac.com" <dustoyev...@mac.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 15, 9:26 am, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > However, #2 above just makes you look petty and vindictive
> > > to someone like me who is completely unaware of your past
> > > conflicts, especially since Richard's information was timely
> > > and useful.
>
> <juvenile drivel deleted>
>
> Troll much, Walter?
The google groups site has a little yellow notifier: "Your post has
been successful".
I agree.
Accepting criticism is not your long suit, 'Zarkie.
I suggest your credibility might be enchanced if you argued substance
instead of deleting content and flinging mud.
Ready for something new, turning a page in your life, etc. etc?
BTW: Could you post a URL to your own bicycling info site? Thanks! --
D-y
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Date: 15 Aug 2007 10:42:47
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
|
On Aug 15, 12:05 pm, "dustoyev...@mac.com" <dustoyev...@mac.com >
wrote:
> On Aug 15, 9:26 am, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > However, #2 above just makes you look petty and vindictive
> > to someone like me who is completely unaware of your past
> > conflicts, especially since Richard's information was timely
> > and useful.
>
>
<juvenile drivel deleted >
Troll much, Walter?
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Date: 15 Aug 2007 10:38:26
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
|
On Aug 15, 11:38 am, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Aug 14, 3:23 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
>
>
> <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 14, 2:11 pm, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hi;
>
> > > Would some kind soul please point me to a site that gives clear
> > > simple instructions on how to adjust these new fangled gear
> > > shifters, which we are all now forced to use; the ones that have
> > > fixed settings for each gear.
>
> > > I know that the adjustment is done by lengthening and shortening
> > > the cable, and that it is essential to get the top and bottom
> > > ones right. Mostly what I don't understand is how one
> > > determines that the chain is exactly aligned up with a gear.
>
> > > I am trying to adjust my wife's rear gears because it is obvious
> > > that the guy at the shop she uses has no idea how to do it.
>
> > Start here:
>
> >http://www.parktool.com/repair/byregion.asp
>
> > click on "derailleur systems" and go from there.
>
> > You might want to "bookmark" the Park site; IMO, it's the best source
> > of bicycle "how to" info on the internet.
>
> I noticed that my wife's bike has 9 gear disks (cassettes (?))
> but 10 indexes on her shifter. Is this normal and acceptable?
So long as the chain shifts cleanly accros the cassette, yes, there is
often an "extra click" on shifters. Just be sure to adjust the RD
limit screws to keep the chain on the cogs.
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Date: 15 Aug 2007 10:05:27
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
|
On Aug 15, 9:26 am, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com > wrote:
> However, #2 above just makes you look petty and vindictive
> to someone like me who is completely unaware of your past
> conflicts, especially since Richard's information was timely
> and useful.
No one surpasses "Richard" for petty vindictiveness here, especially
IRT Sheldon Brown. Such as poring over Sheldon's website to find
niggling "errors" or perhaps, info in need of updating (at worst), and
then reporting his findings in a nasty and sarcastic manner in posts
to this newsgroup, instead of, as Sheldon has requested, sending his
input via private email.
Not to mention "Richard" not being above kicking a guy when he's down,
as Sheldon has reported serious and debilitating health problems,
beginning a year and more in the past.
I say this somewhat reluctantly, but if you compare Sheldon's site to
"Richard's", there's a clue right there of where this behavior might
originate.
Tom Sherman told you the truth, too <g >.
It's OK, you'll get your shifting tuned up and go on. Good thing you
didn't mention having a 12-tooth cog on any of your bikes. That's
something else that sets "Richard" off, referring again to those "past
conflicts" you've mentioned <g >. Petty, vindictive, and ignorant, too,
in spite of efforts to inform.
But, in fairness (hey, somebody's got to do it!), "Richard" sometimes
posts useful info along with the dross, as you've seen.
Good afternoon, Zarkie! Hope that wasn't too stiff for you. Working
today, or newsgroupin'? --D-y
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Date: 15 Aug 2007 16:38:51
From: Friar Broccoli
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
|
On Aug 14, 3:23 pm, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Aug 14, 2:11 pm, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi;
>
> > Would some kind soul please point me to a site that gives clear
> > simple instructions on how to adjust these new fangled gear
> > shifters, which we are all now forced to use; the ones that have
> > fixed settings for each gear.
>
> > I know that the adjustment is done by lengthening and shortening
> > the cable, and that it is essential to get the top and bottom
> > ones right. Mostly what I don't understand is how one
> > determines that the chain is exactly aligned up with a gear.
>
> > I am trying to adjust my wife's rear gears because it is obvious
> > that the guy at the shop she uses has no idea how to do it.
>
> Start here:
>
> http://www.parktool.com/repair/byregion.asp
>
> click on "derailleur systems" and go from there.
>
> You might want to "bookmark" the Park site; IMO, it's the best source
> of bicycle "how to" info on the internet.
I noticed that my wife's bike has 9 gear disks (cassettes (?))
but 10 indexes on her shifter. Is this normal and acceptable?
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Date: 15 Aug 2007 14:26:45
From: Friar Broccoli
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
|
On Aug 15, 12:15 am, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
<sunsetss0...@invailid.com > wrote:
> Ozark Bicycle - 100% Service and 0% "Attitude" - wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 14, 2:11 pm, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi;
>
> >> Would some kind soul please point me to a site that gives clear
> >> simple instructions on how to adjust these new fangled gear
> >> shifters, which we are all now forced to use; the ones that have
> >> fixed settings for each gear.
>
> >> I know that the adjustment is done by lengthening and shortening
> >> the cable, and that it is essential to get the top and bottom
> >> ones right. Mostly what I don't understand is how one
> >> determines that the chain is exactly aligned up with a gear.
>
> >> I am trying to adjust my wife's rear gears because it is obvious
> >> that the guy at the shop she uses has no idea how to do it.
>
> > Start here:
>
> >http://www.parktool.com/repair/byregion.asp
>
> > click on "derailleur systems" and go from there.
>
> > You might want to "bookmark" the Park site; IMO, it's the best source
> > of bicycle "how to" info on the internet.
>
> Also bookmark <http://www.sheldonbrown.com/> because:
>
> 1. It is also an excellent source of bicycle information.
> 2. Mentioning Sheldon's site annoys Ozark Bicycle. ;)
>
> For your specific problem: <http://sheldonbrown.com/gearing/index.html>.
Thank you for the reference.
I found the page good and a useful alternate perspective.
However, #2 above just makes you look petty and vindictive
to someone like me who is completely unaware of your past
conflicts, especially since Richard's information was timely
and useful.
Thanks again;
Friar Broccoli
Robert Keith Elias, Quebec, Canada Email: EliasRK (of) gmail * com
Best programmer's & all purpose text editor: http://www.semware.com
--------- I consider ALL arguments in support of my views ---------
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Date: 22 Aug 2007 01:21:17
From: Friar Broccoli
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
|
On Aug 20, 11:57 am, "Bill Sornson" <as...@ask.me > wrote:
> RonSonic wrote:
> >> Do you ever look at archives of this group?
> > Yes, somehow I seem to have done it in an environment that doesn't
> > include user profiles or other such.
>
> Apparently, for some people hundreds of new posts a day aren't enough; they
> have to also go back and read old crap, too.
>
> Curious, curious, curious...
In case you are interested, my motives arise from my pastime
as a recreational debater. (Before the evolution/creation debate
I used to do guncontrol)
The google groups interface allows you to search all of a specific
individual's posts to find out what his position is or what he has
said on some subject. This is often very useful in a debate.
It also allows me to quickly determine if I am up against a
complete idiot, in which case I don't even bother responding.
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 19:26:52
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
|
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:26:45 -0000, Friar Broccoli <EliasRK@gmail.com > wrote:
>On Aug 15, 12:15 am, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
><sunsetss0...@invailid.com> wrote:
>> Ozark Bicycle - 100% Service and 0% "Attitude" - wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 14, 2:11 pm, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Hi;
>>
>> >> Would some kind soul please point me to a site that gives clear
>> >> simple instructions on how to adjust these new fangled gear
>> >> shifters, which we are all now forced to use; the ones that have
>> >> fixed settings for each gear.
>>
>> >> I know that the adjustment is done by lengthening and shortening
>> >> the cable, and that it is essential to get the top and bottom
>> >> ones right. Mostly what I don't understand is how one
>> >> determines that the chain is exactly aligned up with a gear.
>>
>> >> I am trying to adjust my wife's rear gears because it is obvious
>> >> that the guy at the shop she uses has no idea how to do it.
>>
>> > Start here:
>>
>> >http://www.parktool.com/repair/byregion.asp
>>
>> > click on "derailleur systems" and go from there.
>>
>> > You might want to "bookmark" the Park site; IMO, it's the best source
>> > of bicycle "how to" info on the internet.
>>
>> Also bookmark <http://www.sheldonbrown.com/> because:
>>
>> 1. It is also an excellent source of bicycle information.
>> 2. Mentioning Sheldon's site annoys Ozark Bicycle. ;)
>>
>> For your specific problem: <http://sheldonbrown.com/gearing/index.html>.
>
>Thank you for the reference.
>I found the page good and a useful alternate perspective.
>
>However, #2 above just makes you look petty and vindictive
>to someone like me who is completely unaware of your past
>conflicts, especially since Richard's information was timely
>and useful.
Who is this "Richard" you speak of?
If you mean Ozark Bike Guy then I have to wonder how you can play the innocent
newb.
Ron
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Date: 15 Aug 2007 21:40:27
From: Tom \Johnny Sunset\ Sherman
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
|
Friar Broccoli aka Robert Keith Elias wrote:
> On Aug 15, 12:15 am, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
> <sunsetss0...@invailid.com> wrote:
>> Ozark Bicycle - 100% Service and 0% "Attitude" - wrote:
>>
>>> On Aug 14, 2:11 pm, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi;
>>>> Would some kind soul please point me to a site that gives clear
>>>> simple instructions on how to adjust these new fangled gear
>>>> shifters, which we are all now forced to use; the ones that have
>>>> fixed settings for each gear.
>>>> I know that the adjustment is done by lengthening and shortening
>>>> the cable, and that it is essential to get the top and bottom
>>>> ones right. Mostly what I don't understand is how one
>>>> determines that the chain is exactly aligned up with a gear.
>>>> I am trying to adjust my wife's rear gears because it is obvious
>>>> that the guy at the shop she uses has no idea how to do it.
>>> Start here:
>>> http://www.parktool.com/repair/byregion.asp
>>> click on "derailleur systems" and go from there.
>>> You might want to "bookmark" the Park site; IMO, it's the best source
>>> of bicycle "how to" info on the internet.
>> Also bookmark <http://www.sheldonbrown.com/> because:
>>
>> 1. It is also an excellent source of bicycle information.
>> 2. Mentioning Sheldon's site annoys Ozark Bicycle. ;)
>>
>> For your specific problem: <http://sheldonbrown.com/gearing/index.html>.
>
> Thank you for the reference.
> I found the page good and a useful alternate perspective.
>
> However, #2 above just makes you look petty and vindictive
> to someone like me who is completely unaware of your past
> conflicts, especially since Richard's information was timely
> and useful....
Hey, No. 2 is much nicer than most of the comments Ozark Bicycle makes
about others on the group. One more than one occasion, Ozark Bicycle has
flamed someone as a "brown nose" for citing Sheldon Brown.
Earlier today Ozark Bicycle wrote about me, "You're right, I don't "get"
how anyone can be such a lameass loser as you, Tom."
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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Date: 15 Aug 2007 21:59:20
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
|
Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman wrote:
> Earlier today Ozark Bicycle wrote about me, "You're right, I don't
"get"
> how anyone can be such a lameass loser as you, Tom."
Oh crap. Now you've done it.
We'll have to read about your sins of 'divulging private email' for the
rest of our natural lives.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 00:28:40
From: Tom \Johnny Sunset\ Sherman
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
|
Andrew Muzi wrote:
> Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman wrote:
> > Earlier today Ozark Bicycle wrote about me, "You're right, I don't "get"
>> how anyone can be such a lameass loser as you, Tom."
>
> Oh crap. Now you've done it.
>
> We'll have to read about your sins of 'divulging private email' for the
> rest of our natural lives.
Huh? That comment by Ozark Bicycle was posted to Usenet, not private
email. See
<http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/955ed107da1daae/febdc34edbdcd811?lnk=gst&q=lameass&rnum=5&hl=en#febdc34edbdcd811 >.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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Date: 14 Aug 2007 12:23:46
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
|
On Aug 14, 2:11 pm, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com > wrote:
> Hi;
>
> Would some kind soul please point me to a site that gives clear
> simple instructions on how to adjust these new fangled gear
> shifters, which we are all now forced to use; the ones that have
> fixed settings for each gear.
>
> I know that the adjustment is done by lengthening and shortening
> the cable, and that it is essential to get the top and bottom
> ones right. Mostly what I don't understand is how one
> determines that the chain is exactly aligned up with a gear.
>
> I am trying to adjust my wife's rear gears because it is obvious
> that the guy at the shop she uses has no idea how to do it.
>
>
Start here:
http://www.parktool.com/repair/byregion.asp
click on "derailleur systems" and go from there.
You might want to "bookmark" the Park site; IMO, it's the best source
of bicycle "how to" info on the internet.
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Date: 20 Aug 2007 18:56:45
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Question for Tom "Fearless Fosdick" Sherman
|
On Aug 20, 5:24 pm, "Tom "Oldest male virgin on Usenet" Sherman"
<sunsetss0...@innvalid.com > wrote:
> Ozark Bicycle - 100% Service and 0% "Attitude [1]" - wrote:
>
> > On Aug 19, 8:20 pm, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
> > <sunsetss0...@innvalid.com> wrote:
> >> RonSonic wrote:
>
> >>> Could it possibly be more obvious that I am not and never have used the "Google
> >>> Usenet interface."
> >> That would require viewing of current and past headers.
>
> > Is your life that empty? Are you such a clueless wacko, such a lameass
> > loser that you spend your time "viewing current and past headers" of
> > posts to a Usenet group?
>
> > Sad..........
>
> No Zarkie, just a statement of fact that it is generally not possible to
> tell where a Usenet post comes from without looking at the header.
>
Just think, Tommy, maybe one day you'll actually get laid; then, you
can worry about how long it will take you to get it up again, instead
of worrying about "where a Usenet post comes from".
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Date: 21 Aug 2007 20:36:03
From: Andrew Price
Subject: Re: Question for Tom "Fearless Fosdick" Sherman
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:56:45 -0700, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
>Just think, Tommy, maybe one day you'll actually get laid; then, you
>can worry about how long it will take you to get it up again,
At his age, no doubt *very much faster* than you.
>instead
>of worrying about "where a Usenet post comes from".
That can be seen with one key-stroke on most newsreaders.
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Date: 20 Aug 2007 22:55:27
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Question for Tom "Fearless Fosdick" Sherman
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"Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote in message
news:1187661405.793673.253540@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 20, 5:24 pm, "Tom "Oldest male virgin on Usenet" Sherman"
> <sunsetss0...@innvalid.com> wrote:
>> Ozark Bicycle - 100% Service and 0% "Attitude [1]" - wrote:
>>
>> > On Aug 19, 8:20 pm, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
>> > <sunsetss0...@innvalid.com> wrote:
>> >> RonSonic wrote:
>>
>> >>> Could it possibly be more obvious that I am not and never have used
>> >>> the "Google
>> >>> Usenet interface."
>> >> That would require viewing of current and past headers.
>>
>> > Is your life that empty? Are you such a clueless wacko, such a lameass
>> > loser that you spend your time "viewing current and past headers" of
>> > posts to a Usenet group?
>>
>> > Sad..........
>>
>> No Zarkie, just a statement of fact that it is generally not possible to
>> tell where a Usenet post comes from without looking at the header.
>>
>
> Just think, Tommy, maybe one day you'll actually get laid; then, you
> can worry about how long it will take you to get it up again, instead
> of worrying about "where a Usenet post comes from".
Ozark has a point here. I myself never look up anything on a newsgroup since
such groups are comprised of 99% idiots. Only a numskull like Tom Sherman
would ever bother to look up anything on a newsgroup. Jesus Christ, just how
dumb can you get!
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 20 Aug 2007 21:21:19
From: Tom \Johnny Sunset\ Sherman
Subject: Re: Question for Tom "Fearless Fosdick" Sherman
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Ozark Bicycle wrote:
> On Aug 20, 5:24 pm, "Tom "Oldest male virgin on Usenet" Sherman"
> <sunsetss0...@innvalid.com> wrote:
>> Ozark Bicycle - 100% Service and 0% "Attitude [1]" - wrote:
>>
>>> On Aug 19, 8:20 pm, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
>>> <sunsetss0...@innvalid.com> wrote:
>>>> RonSonic wrote:
>>>>> Could it possibly be more obvious that I am not and never have used the "Google
>>>>> Usenet interface."
>>>> That would require viewing of current and past headers.
>>> Is your life that empty? Are you such a clueless wacko, such a lameass
>>> loser that you spend your time "viewing current and past headers" of
>>> posts to a Usenet group?
>>> Sad..........
>> No Zarkie, just a statement of fact that it is generally not possible to
>> tell where a Usenet post comes from without looking at the header.
>>
>
> Just think, Tommy, maybe one day you'll actually get laid; then, you
> can worry about how long it will take you to get it up again, instead
> of worrying about "where a Usenet post comes from".
>
[Yawn]
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
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Date: 20 Aug 2007 23:48:45
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Question for Tom "Fearless Fosdick" Sherman
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"Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman" <sunsetss0003@innvalid.com > wrote in message
news:46ca400d$0$28879$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
>> On Aug 20, 5:24 pm, "Tom "Oldest male virgin on Usenet" Sherman"
>> <sunsetss0...@innvalid.com> wrote:
>>> Ozark Bicycle - 100% Service and 0% "Attitude [1]" - wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Aug 19, 8:20 pm, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
>>>> <sunsetss0...@innvalid.com> wrote:
>>>>> RonSonic wrote:
>>>>>> Could it possibly be more obvious that I am not and never have used
>>>>>> the "Google
>>>>>> Usenet interface."
>>>>> That would require viewing of current and past headers.
>>>> Is your life that empty? Are you such a clueless wacko, such a lameass
>>>> loser that you spend your time "viewing current and past headers" of
>>>> posts to a Usenet group?
>>>> Sad..........
>>> No Zarkie, just a statement of fact that it is generally not possible to
>>> tell where a Usenet post comes from without looking at the header.
>>>
>>
>> Just think, Tommy, maybe one day you'll actually get laid; then, you
>> can worry about how long it will take you to get it up again, instead
>> of worrying about "where a Usenet post comes from".
>>
> [Yawn]
There is no one in this world that is more fun to denigrate than Tom
Sherman. Why? Well, he is intelligent, but he has very many other fatal
flaws. Frankly, it is no fun to denigrate an idiot, but it is fun to take on
a flawed intelligent individual like Tom Sherman. He is the most notorious
liberal scofflaw I have ever encountered on a newsgroup. He totally
dominated ARBR for many years, but no more. I have seen to that.
If necessary I will devote 24 hours a day to countering his every move on
Usenet in the realm of political discussion. Since I am not gainfully
employed like he is (he is a civil engineer), I will have much more time to
devote to these endeavors than him. He takes me on at his peril!
On the other hand, I am not unreasonable. I will listen to ANYTHING that
makes sense. I pride myself on my rationality since I have nothing else
going for me.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 20 Aug 2007 11:19:56
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Question for Tom "Fearless Fosdick" Sherman
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On Aug 19, 8:20 pm, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
<sunsetss0...@innvalid.com > wrote:
> RonSonic wrote:
>
> > Could it possibly be more obvious that I am not and never have used the "Google
> > Usenet interface."
>
> That would require viewing of current and past headers.
>
Is your life that empty? Are you such a clueless wacko, such a lameass
loser that you spend your time "viewing current and past headers" of
posts to a Usenet group?
Sad..........
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Date: 14 Aug 2007 23:15:29
From: Tom \Johnny Sunset\ Sherman
Subject: Re: Adjusting auto index (?) gear shifters
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Ozark Bicycle - 100% Service and 0% "Attitude" - wrote:
> On Aug 14, 2:11 pm, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi;
>>
>> Would some kind soul please point me to a site that gives clear
>> simple instructions on how to adjust these new fangled gear
>> shifters, which we are all now forced to use; the ones that have
>> fixed settings for each gear.
>>
>> I know that the adjustment is done by lengthening and shortening
>> the cable, and that it is essential to get the top and bottom
>> ones right. Mostly what I don't understand is how one
>> determines that the chain is exactly aligned up with a gear.
>>
>> I am trying to adjust my wife's rear gears because it is obvious
>> that the guy at the shop she uses has no idea how to do it.
>>
>>
>
> Start here:
>
> http://www.parktool.com/repair/byregion.asp
>
> click on "derailleur systems" and go from there.
>
> You might want to "bookmark" the Park site; IMO, it's the best source
> of bicycle "how to" info on the internet.
Also bookmark <http://www.sheldonbrown.com/ > because:
1. It is also an excellent source of bicycle information.
2. Mentioning Sheldon's site annoys Ozark Bicycle. ;)
For your specific problem: <http://sheldonbrown.com/gearing/index.html >.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition"
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