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Date: 24 Sep 2007 05:28:32
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com
Subject: BACK to the future!!
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http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/eurobike0712/EB07-Deda3
I think the next 'revolution' in frame materials is gonna
be....titanium, again.
Great stuff, cheaper than carbon, lasts forever, rides well if
designed well...
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Date: 25 Sep 2007 19:13:16
From: Scott Gordo
Subject: Re: BACK to the future!!
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On Sep 24, 8:28 am, "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com"
<pe...@vecchios.com > wrote:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.ph...
>
> I think the next 'revolution' in frame materials is gonna
> be....titanium, again.
>
> Great stuff, cheaper than carbon, lasts forever, rides well if
> designed well...
I love my ti frames, but I think that you're a tad overly
enthusiastic. One new set of Deda pipes does not a revolution make.
Nice frame, though.
/s
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Date: 25 Sep 2007 07:10:52
From: Marian
Subject: Re: BACK to the future!!
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On Sep 25, 1:58 am, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org > wrote:
> > Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.comwrote:
> > [snip]
> >> Great stuff, cheaper than carbon, lasts forever, rides well if
> >> designed well...
> blisterlester wrote:
> > Which bikes would you point to as outstanding Ti designs in terms of
> > ride quality?
>
> Habanero
Speaking of titanium ... you can do some really cool stuff with
titanium.
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/how20/3f178ca927d05010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html
http://www.valhallaarms.com/wyvern/titanium/images/ti_color_large.jpg
http://www.titaniumarts.com/content/bikeart/anodizing.html
My Habanero frame should be here really really soon now and I'm
looking to anodize it a nice 36 volt bronze purple with the decals in
45 volt blue. I'm going to use my personal chop as the decal on the
headtube. Can't find out any good information on amperage except on
sites that assume I'll be doing something more complicated than the
Diet Coke method so I'm not sure if I should buy a handful of small 9
volt batteries or if I should rent/borrow some big ass 12 volt
batteries.
I think the Leni Freid stuff is a little too over the top fancy-
shmancy though I might want to try some very high voltage green
overlays. Dunno. The problem with leaving the bronze/purple and blue/
yellow range for the pink/green range is that if I don't like the
result there is no way to undo/redo it with a higher voltage color as
the really high voltages are just sort of muddy gray.
Do sort of wish I had a clue where to get 'mild phosphoric acid
solution' in China as something other than soda pop since I actually
have access to a large metal bathtub (long story) and dip anodizing
would produce a more solid result.
-M
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Date: 25 Sep 2007 12:59:10
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: BACK to the future!!
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>>> Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.comwrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>> Great stuff, cheaper than carbon, lasts forever, rides well if
>>>> designed well...
>> blisterlester wrote:
>>> Which bikes would you point to as outstanding Ti designs in terms of
>>> ride quality?
> A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>> Habanero
Marian wrote:
> Speaking of titanium ... you can do some really cool stuff with
> titanium.
>
> http://www.popsci.com/popsci/how20/3f178ca927d05010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html
> http://www.valhallaarms.com/wyvern/titanium/images/ti_color_large.jpg
> http://www.titaniumarts.com/content/bikeart/anodizing.html
>
> My Habanero frame should be here really really soon now and I'm
> looking to anodize it a nice 36 volt bronze purple with the decals in
> 45 volt blue. I'm going to use my personal chop as the decal on the
> headtube. Can't find out any good information on amperage except on
> sites that assume I'll be doing something more complicated than the
> Diet Coke method so I'm not sure if I should buy a handful of small 9
> volt batteries or if I should rent/borrow some big ass 12 volt
> batteries.
>
> I think the Leni Freid stuff is a little too over the top fancy-
> shmancy though I might want to try some very high voltage green
> overlays. Dunno. The problem with leaving the bronze/purple and blue/
> yellow range for the pink/green range is that if I don't like the
> result there is no way to undo/redo it with a higher voltage color as
> the really high voltages are just sort of muddy gray.
>
> Do sort of wish I had a clue where to get 'mild phosphoric acid
> solution' in China as something other than soda pop since I actually
> have access to a large metal bathtub (long story) and dip anodizing
> would produce a more solid result.
'mild phosphoric acid solution' a.k.a. auto body metal etch or toilet
cleaner or 'anti-lime' rinse. Read the labels!!
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 24 Sep 2007 14:48:08
From: Doug Taylor
Subject: Re: BACK to the future!!
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 05:28:32 -0700, "Qui si parla
Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <peter@vecchios.com > wrote:
>http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/eurobike0712/EB07-Deda3
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>I think the next 'revolution' in frame materials is gonna
>be....titanium, again.
>
>Great stuff, cheaper than carbon, lasts forever, rides well if
>designed well...
Also from Eurobike 2007:
Litespeed Archon, top racing product in show:
http://www.velonews.com/tech/report/articles/13199.0.html
website:
http://www.litespeed.com/bikes/new/archon.aspx
But then on the other side of the coin, Shimano is crossing over to
the "dark" side:
http://www.velonews.com/tech/report/articles/13246.0.html
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Date: 24 Sep 2007 15:13:38
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: BACK to the future!!
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A Lynskey Performance custom bike will fit you better, perform better
for you, and look so freakin' hot, your friends will explode
another booby trap idea? Is Lynskies bro a stock broker? There's a
move.
there's no good reason why carbon pipes plumbered into lugs aren't
made foolproof with thickness not made just enough too impress
everyone with zero gravity lightness.
More Surley brick factory scam?
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Date: 24 Sep 2007 07:30:55
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com
Subject: Re: BACK to the future!!
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On Sep 24, 8:05 am, blisterlester <wwill...@attbi.com > wrote:
> Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.comwrote:
> [snip]
>
> > Great stuff, cheaper than carbon, lasts forever, rides well if
> > designed well...
>
> Which bikes would you point to as outstanding Ti designs in terms of
> ride quality?
http://www.moots.com
http://www.lynskeyperformance.com
http://www.habcycles.com
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Date: 24 Sep 2007 08:05:40
From: blisterlester
Subject: Re: BACK to the future!!
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Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com wrote:
[snip]
> Great stuff, cheaper than carbon, lasts forever, rides well if
> designed well...
Which bikes would you point to as outstanding Ti designs in terms of
ride quality?
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Date: 24 Sep 2007 12:58:58
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: BACK to the future!!
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> Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com wrote:
> [snip]
>> Great stuff, cheaper than carbon, lasts forever, rides well if
>> designed well...
blisterlester wrote:
> Which bikes would you point to as outstanding Ti designs in terms of
> ride quality?
Habanero
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 24 Sep 2007 09:53:41
From: David L. Johnson
Subject: Re: BACK to the future!!
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Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com wrote:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/eurobike07/eurobike0712/EB07-Deda3
>
> I think the next 'revolution' in frame materials is gonna
> be....titanium, again.
>
> Great stuff, cheaper than carbon, lasts forever, rides well if
> designed well...
>
I like my ti bike, but "cheaper than carbon" is something of a stretch.
--
David L. Johnson
If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a
conclusion.
-- George Bernard Shaw
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Date: 24 Sep 2007 13:03:30
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: BACK to the future!!
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On Sep 24, 8:55 am, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> YEAH BUT Ti GETS STOLEN
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNwmpLPhoHw
NOW! ask yourself - do you want YOUR children to ride carbon?
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Date: 24 Sep 2007 12:55:23
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: BACK to the future!!
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YEAH BUT Ti GETS STOLEN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNwmpLPhoHw
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