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Date: 23 May 2007 21:41:11
From: R Brickston
Subject: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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What's with the hangup on boobs?
I know, I'm rambling again
also of dogs which I will turn around and chase back into their yard.
I haven't bitten a dog yet, but I haven't caught one yet either.
I now know I will never be the dumbest asshole on the planet.
My objective is to get the hell away from people and their opinions.
That logic even an idiot like you should be able to figure out.
I trolled on the tricycle, the near 200 on the motorcycle was NOT made
up, I just didn't get caught and clocked at that speed, whatever it
may have actually been. Definitely over 170, a lot over.
I can do 160 MPH on my bike. How? Sky dive with it and try to land on
the wheels.
This group is misc. and I intend to stay misc and not try to corrupt
the thinking of small minds.
My memory goes back farther than yours
It really isn't all about me
This group tends to be of the pseudo intellectual sort so I won't go
into anything too deep here.
You people never do listen to what I am saying, do you?
My bike weighs about 50lbs
the tricycle which was the main troll could not have actually done
over 20.
You guys need someone to pick on, and I am not a troll, so...
I go where there are no stores, or supples, or even phone service.
Don't try to get me started on that again.
You can say stupid but I bet I will be alive to piss on your grave.
Before you ASSume I am blowing bullshit try riding the same road.
Get off your stupid ass and ride it then.
I don't have to justify myself to one who knows nothing of the
excitement of going very, very fast.
When was the last time you had to bail onto the sidewalk because a
harvesting machine came by overhanging 'both' sides of the road
They were fucking walking!!!!
Jesus H. Christ, my reaction times are better than many half my age.
Your city boy views don't matter squat to me.
I don't give a damn if I live to 150 or go tomorrow, as long as I
enjoy myself and get to irritate petty snobs
I was going to buy a new plane for about $30,000 but my wife went on
the test flight and almost fainted when she found out it was me flying
and not the salesman.
Chemistry was one of my minors in college, after electronics, math,
and physics.
Why do cows want to race me?
He has come out against stem cell research, abortion rights, and gay
marriage because the Pope told him to
I am not going to do the history lesson that you obviously missed.
Sorry, I have better things to do than educate the challenged.
I drive people at work nuts too.
Need I say more?
I am not trying to be a public asshole
it is NOT a safe road to bike on, regardless of any opinions.
I should ride more and type less,
Touchy group.
You may not have to killfile me, I may just go away, since this group
is a little too touchy.
The first 3 idiots, err assholes.
Idiot/asshole number 4.
Why in the hell am I posting to this thread???
Sorry, my style is not mainstream, in much of anything.
Strictly on topic would be boring compared to some of the random sub
threads that get started.
GW is trying to impose elections and Christianity upon Iraq
Fucking nit picking. So a liter or Kilogram is 2.2 pounds, big assed
deal. I could have given it to you in thirty decimal places but some
of you guys are such fanatics you would be worrying about the last
picogram. You guys are hopeless.
I post at random and do sometimes over post when I am really bored.
I can start a fight in an empty room
also did that at 3:30 in the morning, typing between bed, taking a
leak, and back to bed.
All in all it is a pretty good guess that I have been riding since
well before you
were even born
Under Bush, given the chance, we won't need to since we will all have
subcutaneous implants.
500 grams is only 1 pound, so 250 is only a quarter pound,
I spent the weekend in jail for a 12 year old parking ticket that I
did not get.
Riding a bicycle with a camera and binoculars and somebody cell phoned
me in as a potential terrorist.
Had you been in my Mustang or (if you dared) the back of my hot rod
motorcycle you would A. believe me. B. never get on a bike with me
again.
did roll a car at 85 and spent 6 months in the hospital in 1970 and
endoed a bike at near 80 with no broken bones but plenty of road rash
If all idiots had my IQ it would be a strange world but I would have
someone to talk to.
I am not a doctor but I do know some things about how the police
organization works.
I only post to keep things from getting too stuffy on this group, and
there seem to be a lot of people with way too high an opinion of
themselves.
Sometimes I do post to annoy those certain individuals, but mostly I
try to stay semi on topic.
My last 2 engineering work reviews described me as intimidating to the
other engineers.
Kind of strange getting laid off when I was designing electronics for
military use.
The police are NOT your friends
If being a sheep and following the flock get respect then I don't want
it.
I could write in Scholarly English, err, American, but it does not
serve my purpose.
I took one of those on line IQ tests and did a cut and paste of it
here so I am expecting a boat load of negative feedback.
if you think my anecdotes are just plain ridiculous, good for you.
I was a nutcase as a kid
I have done things that I wouldn't presume to post on here since most
readers would not believe me anyway
I used to catch rattlesnakes by their tails
I get to places you might only see in a Discovery channel special
something tells me that even if I put the pictures on my site and post
a link you would think that I got the pictures from someone else.
When you do tell the truth, nobody believes you.
I can post pictures from the top of both the waterfall and the
electrical tower but not of a pegged 160+ speedometer on a motorcycle.
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Date: 24 May 2007 00:54:16
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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R Brickston wrote:
> I know, I'm rambling again
-snip-
I am not worthy to read your life story.
May I touch the hem of your garment?
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 24 May 2007 14:43:08
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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A Muzi wrote:
> R Brickston wrote:
>> I know, I'm rambling again
> -snip-
>
> I am not worthy to read your life story.
> May I touch the hem of your garment?
I've done a lot, not all legal, and Brickstone appears to live in a
padded room.
I won't indulge him again.
Bill Baka
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Date: 24 May 2007 21:50:20
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 14:43:08 -0700, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
>A Muzi wrote:
>> R Brickston wrote:
>>> I know, I'm rambling again
>> -snip-
>>
>> I am not worthy to read your life story.
>> May I touch the hem of your garment?
>
>I've done a lot, not all legal, and Brickstone appears to live in a
>padded room.
>I won't indulge him again.
>Bill Baka
Is this rec.bicycles.tech or bill.baka.talltales? Of course, one can
imagine that when keypunching from Planet Baka onto usenet, all groups
are bill.baka.talltales.
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Date: 24 May 2007 15:19:45
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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R Brickston wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 14:43:08 -0700, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>> I've done a lot, not all legal, and Brickstone appears to live in a
>> padded room.
>> I won't indulge him again.
>> Bill Baka
>
> Is this rec.bicycles.tech or bill.baka.talltales? Of course, one can
> imagine that when keypunching from Planet Baka onto usenet, all groups
> are bill.baka.talltales.
True tales, coward of life. Proving that you do live in a padded room.
Do you wear a helmet to get out of bed?
Bill Baka
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Date: 24 May 2007 05:12:30
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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In article <jtc9535vc6ar0hps44ik1ammmrrq55atd8@4ax.com >,
R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@ > wrote:
> Chemistry was one of my minors in college, after electronics, math,
> and physics.
1. A sugar cube will balance on a soccer ball, but a
sugar cube will not balance on a dried pea. What is the
radius of the sphere (in terms of the edge length of
the sugar cube) where the sugar cube is in neutral
equilibrium?
2. A gram of water is super-cooled to -40 C. It
spontaneously undergoes a phase change to a mixture of
water-ice. What is the change in entropy?
--
Michael Press
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Date: 24 May 2007 13:56:46
From: still me
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 05:12:30 GMT, Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net >
wrote:
>In article <jtc9535vc6ar0hps44ik1ammmrrq55atd8@4ax.com>,
> R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote:
>
>> Chemistry was one of my minors in college, after electronics, math,
>> and physics.
My major was sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll. Well, Chemistry too, but
only to the extent that it related to the second item in the previous
list.
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Date: 24 May 2007 22:57:16
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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still me wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 05:12:30 GMT, Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <jtc9535vc6ar0hps44ik1ammmrrq55atd8@4ax.com>,
>> R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote:
>>
>>> Chemistry was one of my minors in college, after electronics, math,
>>> and physics.
>
> My major was sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll.
I thought that was the real major for all of us in the '60s-'70s.
Well, Chemistry too, but
> only to the extent that it related to the second item in the previous
> list.
Enough to pass the tests with high enough marks to impress the girls.
I took home economics in 8th grade.
I took bookkeeping in 9th grade.
I took typing as a Senior.
Why?
That's where the girls were.
Sheesh.
Bill Baka
>
>
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Date: 24 May 2007 23:14:30
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 22:57:16 GMT, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
>still me wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 May 2007 05:12:30 GMT, Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <jtc9535vc6ar0hps44ik1ammmrrq55atd8@4ax.com>,
>>> R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chemistry was one of my minors in college, after electronics, math,
>>>> and physics.
>>
>> My major was sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll.
>I thought that was the real major for all of us in the '60s-'70s.
>Well, Chemistry too, but
>> only to the extent that it related to the second item in the previous
>> list.
>Enough to pass the tests with high enough marks to impress the girls.
>I took home economics in 8th grade.
>I took bookkeeping in 9th grade.
>I took typing as a Senior.
>Why?
>That's where the girls were.
>Sheesh.
>Bill Baka
>
>>
>>
Billy's two favorite words "I" and "me."
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Date: 24 May 2007 16:21:16
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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R Brickston wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 22:57:16 GMT, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>> That's where the girls were.
>> Sheesh.
>> Bill Baka
>>
>>>
>
> Billy's two favorite words "I" and "me."
Dumbass, Girls first. Maybe Boys for you.
Bye.
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Date: 24 May 2007 23:39:01
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 16:21:16 -0700, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
>R Brickston wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 May 2007 22:57:16 GMT, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> That's where the girls were.
>>> Sheesh.
>>> Bill Baka
>>>
>>>>
>>
>> Billy's two favorite words "I" and "me."
>
>Dumbass, Girls first. Maybe Boys for you.
>Bye.
Wooosh
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Date: 23 May 2007 22:28:29
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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Michael Press wrote:
<snip >
> 2. A gram of water is super-cooled to -40 C. It
> spontaneously undergoes a phase change to a mixture of
> water-ice. What is the change in entropy?
what's the proportion of water-ice in this mixture?
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Date: 24 May 2007 23:12:05
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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In article <R5SdnUJnBs_gv8jbnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@speakeasy.net >,
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net > wrote:
> Michael Press wrote:
> <snip>
> > 2. A gram of water is super-cooled to -40 C. It
> > spontaneously undergoes a phase change to a mixture of
> > water-ice. What is the change in entropy?
>
> what's the proportion of water-ice in this mixture?
Part of the exercise.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 24 May 2007 05:35:47
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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On Wed, 23 May 2007 22:28:29 -0700, jim beam
<spamvortex@bad.example.net > wrote:
>Michael Press wrote:
><snip>
>> 2. A gram of water is super-cooled to -40 C. It
>> spontaneously undergoes a phase change to a mixture of
>> water-ice. What is the change in entropy?
>
>what's the proportion of water-ice in this mixture?
Please, let Dr. Baka the Physics major answer it.
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Date: 24 May 2007 06:06:44
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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R Brickston wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 22:28:29 -0700, jim beam
> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>
>> Michael Press wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> 2. A gram of water is super-cooled to -40 C. It
>>> spontaneously undergoes a phase change to a mixture of
>>> water-ice. What is the change in entropy?
>> what's the proportion of water-ice in this mixture?
>
> Please, let Dr. Baka the Physics major answer it.
but the question is incomplete, dumb-ass.
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Date: 24 May 2007 23:13:42
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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In article <rv2dnVBHrPl5EMjbnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@speakeasy.net >,
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net > wrote:
> R Brickston wrote:
> > On Wed, 23 May 2007 22:28:29 -0700, jim beam
> > <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Michael Press wrote:
> >> <snip>
> >>> 2. A gram of water is super-cooled to -40 C. It
> >>> spontaneously undergoes a phase change to a mixture of
> >>> water-ice. What is the change in entropy?
> >> what's the proportion of water-ice in this mixture?
> >
> > Please, let Dr. Baka the Physics major answer it.
>
> but the question is incomplete, dumb-ass.
No, it is not.
Sure, you have to look up the properties of water.
Not too difficult, even if it is not in a book
on your shelf.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 25 May 2007 09:45:51
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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Michael Press wrote:
> In article <rv2dnVBHrPl5EMjbnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>
>> R Brickston wrote:
>>> On Wed, 23 May 2007 22:28:29 -0700, jim beam
>>> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Michael Press wrote:
>>>> <snip>
>>>>> 2. A gram of water is super-cooled to -40 C. It
>>>>> spontaneously undergoes a phase change to a mixture of
>>>>> water-ice. What is the change in entropy?
>>>> what's the proportion of water-ice in this mixture?
>>> Please, let Dr. Baka the Physics major answer it.
>> but the question is incomplete, dumb-ass.
>
> No, it is not.
yes it is. you think 10% solid is the same /_\S as 90% solid?
> Sure, you have to look up the properties of water.
> Not too difficult, even if it is not in a book
> on your shelf.
>
unless you want an algebraic answer, you need proportions.
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Date: 25 May 2007 13:08:22
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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In article <CI2dnb0Jg9ldj8rbnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net >,
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net > wrote:
> Michael Press wrote:
> > In article <rv2dnVBHrPl5EMjbnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> > jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >
> >> R Brickston wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 23 May 2007 22:28:29 -0700, jim beam
> >>> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Michael Press wrote:
> >>>> <snip>
> >>>>> 2. A gram of water is super-cooled to -40 C. It
> >>>>> spontaneously undergoes a phase change to a mixture of
> >>>>> water-ice. What is the change in entropy?
> >>>> what's the proportion of water-ice in this mixture?
> >>> Please, let Dr. Baka the Physics major answer it.
> >> but the question is incomplete, dumb-ass.
> >
> > No, it is not.
>
> yes it is. you think 10% solid is the same /_\S as 90% solid?
>
> > Sure, you have to look up the properties of water.
> > Not too difficult, even if it is not in a book
> > on your shelf.
> >
> unless you want an algebraic answer, you need proportions.
Water supercooled to -40 C is a fully determined configuration.
(assuming it is at 1 atomosphere and insulated from the
environment, and why not?)
It undergoes a spontaneous phase change to solid water and liquid
water. The proportion is determined by the initial conditions.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 25 May 2007 23:40:18
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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Michael Press wrote:
> In article <CI2dnb0Jg9ldj8rbnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>
>> Michael Press wrote:
>>> In article <rv2dnVBHrPl5EMjbnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
>>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> R Brickston wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 23 May 2007 22:28:29 -0700, jim beam
>>>>> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael Press wrote:
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>> 2. A gram of water is super-cooled to -40 C. It
>>>>>>> spontaneously undergoes a phase change to a mixture of
>>>>>>> water-ice. What is the change in entropy?
>>>>>> what's the proportion of water-ice in this mixture?
>>>>> Please, let Dr. Baka the Physics major answer it.
>>>> but the question is incomplete, dumb-ass.
>>> No, it is not.
>> yes it is. you think 10% solid is the same /_\S as 90% solid?
>>
>>> Sure, you have to look up the properties of water.
>>> Not too difficult, even if it is not in a book
>>> on your shelf.
>>>
>> unless you want an algebraic answer, you need proportions.
>
> Water supercooled to -40 C is a fully determined configuration.
> (assuming it is at 1 atomosphere and insulated from the
> environment, and why not?)
>
> It undergoes a spontaneous phase change to solid water and liquid
> water. The proportion is determined by the initial conditions.
>
Since you are taking the high and mighty approach to this, is it
electrically conductive? If you said yes then all bets are off.
Pure water is an insulator, not a conductor.
I guess you could have said analytical quality water with < 1 PPB of
impurities.
Bill Baka
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Date: 25 May 2007 13:29:11
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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Michael Press wrote:
> In article <CI2dnb0Jg9ldj8rbnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>
>> Michael Press wrote:
>>> In article <rv2dnVBHrPl5EMjbnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
>>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> R Brickston wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 23 May 2007 22:28:29 -0700, jim beam
>>>>> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael Press wrote:
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>> 2. A gram of water is super-cooled to -40 C. It
>>>>>>> spontaneously undergoes a phase change to a mixture of
>>>>>>> water-ice. What is the change in entropy?
>>>>>> what's the proportion of water-ice in this mixture?
>>>>> Please, let Dr. Baka the Physics major answer it.
>>>> but the question is incomplete, dumb-ass.
>>> No, it is not.
>> yes it is. you think 10% solid is the same /_\S as 90% solid?
>>
>>> Sure, you have to look up the properties of water.
>>> Not too difficult, even if it is not in a book
>>> on your shelf.
>>>
>> unless you want an algebraic answer, you need proportions.
>
> Water supercooled to -40 C is a fully determined configuration.
> (assuming it is at 1 atomosphere and insulated from the
> environment, and why not?)
it's not "determined", it's subject to a number of preconditions, not
least of which is the means to contain and cool without triggering
nucleation.
>
> It undergoes a spontaneous phase change to solid water and liquid
> water. The proportion is determined by the initial conditions.
see above. you need proportion of solid to determine /_\S, your
original question.
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Date: 25 May 2007 14:43:42
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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In article
<gbKdnTI0UeWF2srbnZ2dnUVZ_sSmnZ2d@speakeasy.net >,
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net > wrote:
> Michael Press wrote:
> > In article <CI2dnb0Jg9ldj8rbnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> > jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Michael Press wrote:
> >>> In article <rv2dnVBHrPl5EMjbnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> >>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> R Brickston wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 23 May 2007 22:28:29 -0700, jim beam
> >>>>> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Michael Press wrote:
> >>>>>> <snip>
> >>>>>>> 2. A gram of water is super-cooled to -40 C. It
> >>>>>>> spontaneously undergoes a phase change to a mixture of
> >>>>>>> water-ice. What is the change in entropy?
> >>>>>> what's the proportion of water-ice in this mixture?
> >>>>> Please, let Dr. Baka the Physics major answer it.
> >>>> but the question is incomplete, dumb-ass.
> >>> No, it is not.
> >> yes it is. you think 10% solid is the same /_\S as 90% solid?
> >>
> >>> Sure, you have to look up the properties of water.
> >>> Not too difficult, even if it is not in a book
> >>> on your shelf.
> >>>
> >> unless you want an algebraic answer, you need proportions.
> >
> > Water supercooled to -40 C is a fully determined configuration.
> > (assuming it is at 1 atomosphere and insulated from the
> > environment, and why not?)
>
> it's not "determined", it's subject to a number of preconditions, not
> least of which is the means to contain and cool without triggering
> nucleation.
>
> >
> > It undergoes a spontaneous phase change to solid water and liquid
> > water. The proportion is determined by the initial conditions.
>
> see above. you need proportion of solid to determine /_\S, your
> original question.
Liquid water at -40 C, 1 atmosphere is fully determined.
With this and the known properties of water, the ratio
of liquid to solid water after the phase change can be
calculated.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 25 May 2007 16:25:22
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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Michael Press wrote:
> In article
> <gbKdnTI0UeWF2srbnZ2dnUVZ_sSmnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>
>> Michael Press wrote:
>>> In article <CI2dnb0Jg9ldj8rbnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
>>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Michael Press wrote:
>>>>> In article <rv2dnVBHrPl5EMjbnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
>>>>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> R Brickston wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 May 2007 22:28:29 -0700, jim beam
>>>>>>> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Michael Press wrote:
>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>> 2. A gram of water is super-cooled to -40 C. It
>>>>>>>>> spontaneously undergoes a phase change to a mixture of
>>>>>>>>> water-ice. What is the change in entropy?
>>>>>>>> what's the proportion of water-ice in this mixture?
>>>>>>> Please, let Dr. Baka the Physics major answer it.
>>>>>> but the question is incomplete, dumb-ass.
>>>>> No, it is not.
>>>> yes it is. you think 10% solid is the same /_\S as 90% solid?
>>>>
>>>>> Sure, you have to look up the properties of water.
>>>>> Not too difficult, even if it is not in a book
>>>>> on your shelf.
>>>>>
>>>> unless you want an algebraic answer, you need proportions.
>>> Water supercooled to -40 C is a fully determined configuration.
>>> (assuming it is at 1 atomosphere and insulated from the
>>> environment, and why not?)
>> it's not "determined", it's subject to a number of preconditions, not
>> least of which is the means to contain and cool without triggering
>> nucleation.
>>
>>> It undergoes a spontaneous phase change to solid water and liquid
>>> water. The proportion is determined by the initial conditions.
>> see above. you need proportion of solid to determine /_\S, your
>> original question.
>
> Liquid water at -40 C, 1 atmosphere is fully determined.
> With this and the known properties of water, the ratio
> of liquid to solid water after the phase change can be
> calculated.
>
satisfy my curiosity - what is it?
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Date: 25 May 2007 17:39:47
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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In article
<iZCdnZdkQvL_7crbnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@speakeasy.net >,
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net > wrote:
> Michael Press wrote:
> > In article
> > <gbKdnTI0UeWF2srbnZ2dnUVZ_sSmnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> > jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Michael Press wrote:
> >>> In article <CI2dnb0Jg9ldj8rbnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> >>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Michael Press wrote:
> >>>>> In article <rv2dnVBHrPl5EMjbnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> >>>>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> R Brickston wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wed, 23 May 2007 22:28:29 -0700, jim beam
> >>>>>>> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Michael Press wrote:
> >>>>>>>> <snip>
> >>>>>>>>> 2. A gram of water is super-cooled to -40 C. It
> >>>>>>>>> spontaneously undergoes a phase change to a mixture of
> >>>>>>>>> water-ice. What is the change in entropy?
> >>>>>>>> what's the proportion of water-ice in this mixture?
> >>>>>>> Please, let Dr. Baka the Physics major answer it.
> >>>>>> but the question is incomplete, dumb-ass.
> >>>>> No, it is not.
> >>>> yes it is. you think 10% solid is the same /_\S as 90% solid?
> >>>>
> >>>>> Sure, you have to look up the properties of water.
> >>>>> Not too difficult, even if it is not in a book
> >>>>> on your shelf.
> >>>>>
> >>>> unless you want an algebraic answer, you need proportions.
> >>> Water supercooled to -40 C is a fully determined configuration.
> >>> (assuming it is at 1 atomosphere and insulated from the
> >>> environment, and why not?)
> >> it's not "determined", it's subject to a number of preconditions, not
> >> least of which is the means to contain and cool without triggering
> >> nucleation.
> >>
> >>> It undergoes a spontaneous phase change to solid water and liquid
> >>> water. The proportion is determined by the initial conditions.
> >> see above. you need proportion of solid to determine /_\S, your
> >> original question.
> >
> > Liquid water at -40 C, 1 atmosphere is fully determined.
> > With this and the known properties of water, the ratio
> > of liquid to solid water after the phase change can be
> > calculated.
> >
> satisfy my curiosity - what is it?
I posted these problems for fun, thinking some would
enjoy thinking about them. Did not intend to do much
else, or post solutions. But here goes.
Latent heat of fusion for water = h = 3.34x10^5 J/kg.
Specific heat of water = k = 4.200x10^3 J/(kg.K).
Denote by T_0 the initial temperature, -40 C in our case.
Some fracttion, f, of the super-cooled water will freeze.
0 <= f <= 1.
As it freezes it releases heat,
raising the temperature of the water-ice mixture.
It eventually equilibratetes at some temperature T_1.
If there is some liquid water, then T_1 = 0 C.
Otherwise T_0 <= T_1 <= 0 C.
Denote by m the mass of water.
m.f.h = (T_1 - T_0).m.k
so
f = (T_1 - T_0).k/h
= (T_1 - T_0).k/h
= (T_1 - T_0) x 0.0126
When T_1 - T_0 = 40 K, then f = 0.503.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 27 May 2007 07:27:57
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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Michael Press wrote:
> In article
> <iZCdnZdkQvL_7crbnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>
>> Michael Press wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <gbKdnTI0UeWF2srbnZ2dnUVZ_sSmnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
>>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Michael Press wrote:
>>>>> In article <CI2dnb0Jg9ldj8rbnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
>>>>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael Press wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <rv2dnVBHrPl5EMjbnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
>>>>>>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> R Brickston wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 May 2007 22:28:29 -0700, jim beam
>>>>>>>>> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Michael Press wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. A gram of water is super-cooled to -40 C. It
>>>>>>>>>>> spontaneously undergoes a phase change to a mixture of
>>>>>>>>>>> water-ice. What is the change in entropy?
>>>>>>>>>> what's the proportion of water-ice in this mixture?
>>>>>>>>> Please, let Dr. Baka the Physics major answer it.
>>>>>>>> but the question is incomplete, dumb-ass.
>>>>>>> No, it is not.
>>>>>> yes it is. you think 10% solid is the same /_\S as 90% solid?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure, you have to look up the properties of water.
>>>>>>> Not too difficult, even if it is not in a book
>>>>>>> on your shelf.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> unless you want an algebraic answer, you need proportions.
>>>>> Water supercooled to -40 C is a fully determined configuration.
>>>>> (assuming it is at 1 atomosphere and insulated from the
>>>>> environment, and why not?)
>>>> it's not "determined", it's subject to a number of preconditions, not
>>>> least of which is the means to contain and cool without triggering
>>>> nucleation.
>>>>
>>>>> It undergoes a spontaneous phase change to solid water and liquid
>>>>> water. The proportion is determined by the initial conditions.
>>>> see above. you need proportion of solid to determine /_\S, your
>>>> original question.
>>> Liquid water at -40 C, 1 atmosphere is fully determined.
>>> With this and the known properties of water, the ratio
>>> of liquid to solid water after the phase change can be
>>> calculated.
>>>
>> satisfy my curiosity - what is it?
>
> I posted these problems for fun, thinking some would
> enjoy thinking about them. Did not intend to do much
> else, or post solutions. But here goes.
>
> Latent heat of fusion for water = h = 3.34x10^5 J/kg.
> Specific heat of water = k = 4.200x10^3 J/(kg.K).
>
> Denote by T_0 the initial temperature, -40 C in our case.
> Some fracttion, f, of the super-cooled water will freeze.
> 0 <= f <= 1.
> As it freezes it releases heat,
> raising the temperature of the water-ice mixture.
> It eventually equilibratetes at some temperature T_1.
> If there is some liquid water, then T_1 = 0 C.
> Otherwise T_0 <= T_1 <= 0 C.
> Denote by m the mass of water.
>
> m.f.h = (T_1 - T_0).m.k
> so
> f = (T_1 - T_0).k/h
> = (T_1 - T_0).k/h
> = (T_1 - T_0) x 0.0126
>
> When T_1 - T_0 = 40 K, then f = 0.503.
>
thanks michael. i haven't looked at that stuff in decades - it's fun!
what's the entropy? i vaguely remember the second law but am too rusty
to apply it.
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Date: 29 May 2007 21:18:35
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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In article
<3KCdnT2Lqc7wCMTbnZ2dnUVZ_rrinZ2d@speakeasy.net >,
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net > wrote:
> Michael Press wrote:
> > In article
> > <iZCdnZdkQvL_7crbnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> > jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Michael Press wrote:
> >>> In article
> >>> <gbKdnTI0UeWF2srbnZ2dnUVZ_sSmnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> >>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Michael Press wrote:
> >>>>> In article <CI2dnb0Jg9ldj8rbnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> >>>>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Michael Press wrote:
> >>>>>>> In article <rv2dnVBHrPl5EMjbnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> >>>>>>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> R Brickston wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 May 2007 22:28:29 -0700, jim beam
> >>>>>>>>> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Michael Press wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> <snip>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 2. A gram of water is super-cooled to -40 C. It
> >>>>>>>>>>> spontaneously undergoes a phase change to a mixture of
> >>>>>>>>>>> water-ice. What is the change in entropy?
> >>>>>>>>>> what's the proportion of water-ice in this mixture?
> >>>>>>>>> Please, let Dr. Baka the Physics major answer it.
> >>>>>>>> but the question is incomplete, dumb-ass.
> >>>>>>> No, it is not.
> >>>>>> yes it is. you think 10% solid is the same /_\S as 90% solid?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sure, you have to look up the properties of water.
> >>>>>>> Not too difficult, even if it is not in a book
> >>>>>>> on your shelf.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> unless you want an algebraic answer, you need proportions.
> >>>>> Water supercooled to -40 C is a fully determined configuration.
> >>>>> (assuming it is at 1 atomosphere and insulated from the
> >>>>> environment, and why not?)
> >>>> it's not "determined", it's subject to a number of preconditions, not
> >>>> least of which is the means to contain and cool without triggering
> >>>> nucleation.
> >>>>
> >>>>> It undergoes a spontaneous phase change to solid water and liquid
> >>>>> water. The proportion is determined by the initial conditions.
> >>>> see above. you need proportion of solid to determine /_\S, your
> >>>> original question.
> >>> Liquid water at -40 C, 1 atmosphere is fully determined.
> >>> With this and the known properties of water, the ratio
> >>> of liquid to solid water after the phase change can be
> >>> calculated.
> >>>
> >> satisfy my curiosity - what is it?
> >
> > I posted these problems for fun, thinking some would
> > enjoy thinking about them. Did not intend to do much
> > else, or post solutions. But here goes.
> >
> > Latent heat of fusion for water = h = 3.34x10^5 J/kg.
> > Specific heat of water = k = 4.200x10^3 J/(kg.K).
> >
> > Denote by T_0 the initial temperature, -40 C in our case.
> > Some fracttion, f, of the super-cooled water will freeze.
> > 0 <= f <= 1.
> > As it freezes it releases heat,
> > raising the temperature of the water-ice mixture.
> > It eventually equilibratetes at some temperature T_1.
> > If there is some liquid water, then T_1 = 0 C.
> > Otherwise T_0 <= T_1 <= 0 C.
> > Denote by m the mass of water.
> >
> > m.f.h = (T_1 - T_0).m.k
> > so
> > f = (T_1 - T_0).k/h
> > = (T_1 - T_0).k/h
> > = (T_1 - T_0) x 0.0126
> >
> > When T_1 - T_0 = 40 K, then f = 0.503.
> >
> thanks michael. i haven't looked at that stuff in decades - it's fun!
>
> what's the entropy? i vaguely remember the second law but am too rusty
> to apply it.
Consider the following reversible process.
* Raise the temperature of the supercooled water to 0 C.
The amount of heat added is (T_1 - T_0).m.k
* Remove heat from the 0 C water as ice forms until fm ice is formed.
The amount of heat added is -m.f.h = -(T_1 - T_0).m.k
The entropy change for the first stage of this process is
int_{T_0}^{T_1} m.k dT/T = m.k.log(T_1/T_0)
The entropy change for the second stage of this process is
-(T_1 - T_0).m.k/T_1
The total entropy change is
/_\S = m.k(log(T_1/T_0) - (T_1 - T_0)/T_1)
= m.k(log(273/233) - 40/273)
= 0.011913 m.k
= 0.011913 . 0.001 kg . 4200 J/(kg.K)
= 0.05004 J/K
--
Michael Press
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Date: 28 May 2007 02:12:01
From: still me
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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On Sun, 27 May 2007 07:27:57 -0700, jim beam
<spamvortex@bad.example.net > wrote:
>
>what's the entropy? i vaguely remember the second law but am too rusty
>to apply it.
Entropy is the habit of a (every) newsgroup to degenerate into a state
of inert posts that have nothing to do with the original purpose.
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Date: 25 May 2007 18:15:12
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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Michael Press wrote:
> I posted these problems for fun, thinking some would
> enjoy thinking about them. Did not intend to do much
> else, or post solutions. But here goes.
>
> Latent heat of fusion for water = h = 3.34x10^5 J/kg.
> Specific heat of water = k = 4.200x10^3 J/(kg.K).
>
> Denote by T_0 the initial temperature, -40 C in our case.
> Some fracttion, f, of the super-cooled water will freeze.
> 0 <= f <= 1.
> As it freezes it releases heat,
> raising the temperature of the water-ice mixture.
> It eventually equilibratetes at some temperature T_1.
> If there is some liquid water, then T_1 = 0 C.
> Otherwise T_0 <= T_1 <= 0 C.
> Denote by m the mass of water.
>
> m.f.h = (T_1 - T_0).m.k
> so
> f = (T_1 - T_0).k/h
> = (T_1 - T_0).k/h
> = (T_1 - T_0) x 0.0126
>
> When T_1 - T_0 = 40 K, then f = 0.503.
>
You made it a bit of a trick question by saying flash 'freezing' to -40
and not mentioning a liquid state at -40. The release of heat at the
freezing point is what causes the plateau effect at both the freezing
point and the boiling point with a constant energy input or output.
The trick would be to have all the water in a liquid state at -40 and
watch the released heat from the phase change to solid release heat back
up to 0C. I missed that point so there is the ambiguity problem with
data not being totally provided.
Welcome to the 'Off Topic' nature of news groups.
Bill Baka
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Date: 25 May 2007 19:59:14
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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In article
<nSL5i.4193$C96.1215@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net >,
Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
> Michael Press wrote:
> > I posted these problems for fun, thinking some would
> > enjoy thinking about them. Did not intend to do much
> > else, or post solutions. But here goes.
> >
> > Latent heat of fusion for water = h = 3.34x10^5 J/kg.
> > Specific heat of water = k = 4.200x10^3 J/(kg.K).
> >
> > Denote by T_0 the initial temperature, -40 C in our case.
> > Some fracttion, f, of the super-cooled water will freeze.
> > 0 <= f <= 1.
> > As it freezes it releases heat,
> > raising the temperature of the water-ice mixture.
> > It eventually equilibratetes at some temperature T_1.
> > If there is some liquid water, then T_1 = 0 C.
> > Otherwise T_0 <= T_1 <= 0 C.
> > Denote by m the mass of water.
> >
> > m.f.h = (T_1 - T_0).m.k
> > so
> > f = (T_1 - T_0).k/h
> > = (T_1 - T_0).k/h
> > = (T_1 - T_0) x 0.0126
> >
> > When T_1 - T_0 = 40 K, then f = 0.503.
> >
> You made it a bit of a trick question by saying flash 'freezing' to -40
> and not mentioning a liquid state at -40. The release of heat at the
> freezing point is what causes the plateau effect at both the freezing
> point and the boiling point with a constant energy input or output.
> The trick would be to have all the water in a liquid state at -40 and
> watch the released heat from the phase change to solid release heat back
> up to 0C. I missed that point so there is the ambiguity problem with
> data not being totally provided.
> Welcome to the 'Off Topic' nature of news groups.
I did not say flash `freezing'.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 26 May 2007 05:40:32
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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Michael Press wrote:
> In article
> <nSL5i.4193$C96.1215@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>,
> Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Michael Press wrote:
>>> I posted these problems for fun, thinking some would
>>> enjoy thinking about them. Did not intend to do much
>>> else, or post solutions. But here goes.
>>>
>>> Latent heat of fusion for water = h = 3.34x10^5 J/kg.
>>> Specific heat of water = k = 4.200x10^3 J/(kg.K).
>>>
>>> Denote by T_0 the initial temperature, -40 C in our case.
>>> Some fracttion, f, of the super-cooled water will freeze.
>>> 0 <= f <= 1.
>>> As it freezes it releases heat,
>>> raising the temperature of the water-ice mixture.
>>> It eventually equilibratetes at some temperature T_1.
>>> If there is some liquid water, then T_1 = 0 C.
>>> Otherwise T_0 <= T_1 <= 0 C.
>>> Denote by m the mass of water.
>>>
>>> m.f.h = (T_1 - T_0).m.k
>>> so
>>> f = (T_1 - T_0).k/h
>>> = (T_1 - T_0).k/h
>>> = (T_1 - T_0) x 0.0126
>>>
>>> When T_1 - T_0 = 40 K, then f = 0.503.
>>>
>> You made it a bit of a trick question by saying flash 'freezing' to -40
>> and not mentioning a liquid state at -40. The release of heat at the
>> freezing point is what causes the plateau effect at both the freezing
>> point and the boiling point with a constant energy input or output.
>> The trick would be to have all the water in a liquid state at -40 and
>> watch the released heat from the phase change to solid release heat back
>> up to 0C. I missed that point so there is the ambiguity problem with
>> data not being totally provided.
>> Welcome to the 'Off Topic' nature of news groups.
>
> I did not say flash `freezing'.
>
I thought you did.
My bad.
Analytic water with less than 1 PPB may not freeze without a 'seed'.
The superheated hot dog thing is another whole water is weird thing.
Bill Baka
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Date: 26 May 2007 11:05:27
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 05:40:32 GMT, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
>Michael Press wrote:
>> In article
>> <nSL5i.4193$C96.1215@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>,
>> Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Michael Press wrote:
>>>> I posted these problems for fun, thinking some would
>>>> enjoy thinking about them. Did not intend to do much
>>>> else, or post solutions. But here goes.
>>>>
>>>> Latent heat of fusion for water = h = 3.34x10^5 J/kg.
>>>> Specific heat of water = k = 4.200x10^3 J/(kg.K).
>>>>
>>>> Denote by T_0 the initial temperature, -40 C in our case.
>>>> Some fracttion, f, of the super-cooled water will freeze.
>>>> 0 <= f <= 1.
>>>> As it freezes it releases heat,
>>>> raising the temperature of the water-ice mixture.
>>>> It eventually equilibratetes at some temperature T_1.
>>>> If there is some liquid water, then T_1 = 0 C.
>>>> Otherwise T_0 <= T_1 <= 0 C.
>>>> Denote by m the mass of water.
>>>>
>>>> m.f.h = (T_1 - T_0).m.k
>>>> so
>>>> f = (T_1 - T_0).k/h
>>>> = (T_1 - T_0).k/h
>>>> = (T_1 - T_0) x 0.0126
>>>>
>>>> When T_1 - T_0 = 40 K, then f = 0.503.
>>>>
>>> You made it a bit of a trick question by saying flash 'freezing' to -40
>>> and not mentioning a liquid state at -40. The release of heat at the
>>> freezing point is what causes the plateau effect at both the freezing
>>> point and the boiling point with a constant energy input or output.
>>> The trick would be to have all the water in a liquid state at -40 and
>>> watch the released heat from the phase change to solid release heat back
>>> up to 0C. I missed that point so there is the ambiguity problem with
>>> data not being totally provided.
>>> Welcome to the 'Off Topic' nature of news groups.
>>
>> I did not say flash `freezing'.
>>
>I thought you did.
>My bad.
>Analytic water with less than 1 PPB may not freeze without a 'seed'.
>The superheated hot dog thing is another whole water is weird thing.
>Bill Baka
You "thought" wrong. What else is new?
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Date: 26 May 2007 02:39:06
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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On Fri, 25 May 2007 18:15:12 -0700, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
>Michael Press wrote:
>> I posted these problems for fun, thinking some would
>> enjoy thinking about them. Did not intend to do much
>> else, or post solutions. But here goes.
>>
>> Latent heat of fusion for water = h = 3.34x10^5 J/kg.
>> Specific heat of water = k = 4.200x10^3 J/(kg.K).
>>
>> Denote by T_0 the initial temperature, -40 C in our case.
>> Some fracttion, f, of the super-cooled water will freeze.
>> 0 <= f <= 1.
>> As it freezes it releases heat,
>> raising the temperature of the water-ice mixture.
>> It eventually equilibratetes at some temperature T_1.
>> If there is some liquid water, then T_1 = 0 C.
>> Otherwise T_0 <= T_1 <= 0 C.
>> Denote by m the mass of water.
>>
>> m.f.h = (T_1 - T_0).m.k
>> so
>> f = (T_1 - T_0).k/h
>> = (T_1 - T_0).k/h
>> = (T_1 - T_0) x 0.0126
>>
>> When T_1 - T_0 = 40 K, then f = 0.503.
>>
>You made it a bit of a trick question by saying flash 'freezing' to -40
>and not mentioning a liquid state at -40. The release of heat at the
>freezing point is what causes the plateau effect at both the freezing
>point and the boiling point with a constant energy input or output.
>The trick would be to have all the water in a liquid state at -40 and
>watch the released heat from the phase change to solid release heat back
>up to 0C. I missed that point so there is the ambiguity problem with
>data not being totally provided.
>Welcome to the 'Off Topic' nature of news groups.
>Bill Baka
Fact is you didn't answer the question.
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Date: 25 May 2007 19:47:51
From: DI
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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"Michael Press" <rubrum@pacbell.net > wrote in message
news:rubrum-BC936D.17394725052007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
> In article
> <iZCdnZdkQvL_7crbnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>
>> Michael Press wrote:
>> > In article
>> > <gbKdnTI0UeWF2srbnZ2dnUVZ_sSmnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
>> > jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Michael Press wrote:
>> >>> In article <CI2dnb0Jg9ldj8rbnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
>> >>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Michael Press wrote:
>> >>>>> In article <rv2dnVBHrPl5EMjbnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
>> >>>>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> R Brickston wrote:
>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 23 May 2007 22:28:29 -0700, jim beam
>> >>>>>>> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Michael Press wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> <snip>
>> >>>>>>>>> 2. A gram of water is super-cooled to -40 C. It
>> >>>>>>>>> spontaneously undergoes a phase change to a mixture of
>> >>>>>>>>> water-ice. What is the change in entropy?
>> >>>>>>>> what's the proportion of water-ice in this mixture?
>> >>>>>>> Please, let Dr. Baka the Physics major answer it.
>> >>>>>> but the question is incomplete, dumb-ass.
>> >>>>> No, it is not.
>> >>>> yes it is. you think 10% solid is the same /_\S as 90% solid?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Sure, you have to look up the properties of water.
>> >>>>> Not too difficult, even if it is not in a book
>> >>>>> on your shelf.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> unless you want an algebraic answer, you need proportions.
>> >>> Water supercooled to -40 C is a fully determined configuration.
>> >>> (assuming it is at 1 atomosphere and insulated from the
>> >>> environment, and why not?)
>> >> it's not "determined", it's subject to a number of preconditions, not
>> >> least of which is the means to contain and cool without triggering
>> >> nucleation.
>> >>
>> >>> It undergoes a spontaneous phase change to solid water and liquid
>> >>> water. The proportion is determined by the initial conditions.
>> >> see above. you need proportion of solid to determine /_\S, your
>> >> original question.
>> >
>> > Liquid water at -40 C, 1 atmosphere is fully determined.
>> > With this and the known properties of water, the ratio
>> > of liquid to solid water after the phase change can be
>> > calculated.
>> >
>> satisfy my curiosity - what is it?
>
> I posted these problems for fun, thinking some would
> enjoy thinking about them. Did not intend to do much
> else, or post solutions. But here goes.
>
> Latent heat of fusion for water = h = 3.34x10^5 J/kg.
> Specific heat of water = k = 4.200x10^3 J/(kg.K).
>
> Denote by T_0 the initial temperature, -40 C in our case.
> Some fracttion, f, of the super-cooled water will freeze.
> 0 <= f <= 1.
> As it freezes it releases heat,
> raising the temperature of the water-ice mixture.
> It eventually equilibratetes at some temperature T_1.
> If there is some liquid water, then T_1 = 0 C.
> Otherwise T_0 <= T_1 <= 0 C.
> Denote by m the mass of water.
>
> m.f.h = (T_1 - T_0).m.k
> so
> f = (T_1 - T_0).k/h
> = (T_1 - T_0).k/h
> = (T_1 - T_0) x 0.0126
>
> When T_1 - T_0 = 40 K, then f = 0.503.
>
> --
> Michael Press
That's just what I thought it was :<) (honestly I have no idea what was
ever being talked about)
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Date: 25 May 2007 19:58:07
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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In article <XsL5i.405142$6P2.118750@newsfe16.phx >,
"DI" <di9999@cox.net > wrote:
> That's just what I thought it was :<) (honestly I have no idea what was
> ever being talked about)
Super cooled water. Water freezes at 0 C.
But if it is prepared with very little impurities and
kept still, then it can be cooled below 0 C and
remain liquid. Dropping in a speck
of material will form a nucleus for crystallization of ice.
That is all.
<URL:http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/gen01/gen01672.htm >
--
Michael Press
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Date: 25 May 2007 23:44:42
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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jim beam wrote:
> Michael Press wrote:
>> Liquid water at -40 C, 1 atmosphere is fully determined. With this and
>> the known properties of water, the ratio
>> of liquid to solid water after the phase change can be
>> calculated.
>>
> satisfy my curiosity - what is it?
Be sure to give the phase of the moon and the alignment of the planets,
and of course, how much is Deuterium, etc.
I having too much fun watching you guys now to even think about
answering the question.
Bill Baka
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Date: 25 May 2007 20:06:24
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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jim beam wrote:
> Michael Press wrote:
>> In article <rv2dnVBHrPl5EMjbnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> R Brickston wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 23 May 2007 22:28:29 -0700, jim beam
>>>> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Michael Press wrote:
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>> 2. A gram of water is super-cooled to -40 C. It
>>>>>> spontaneously undergoes a phase change to a mixture of
>>>>>> water-ice. What is the change in entropy?
>>>>> what's the proportion of water-ice in this mixture?
>>>> Please, let Dr. Baka the Physics major answer it.
>>> but the question is incomplete, dumb-ass.
>>
>> No, it is not.
>
> yes it is. you think 10% solid is the same /_\S as 90% solid?
>
>> Sure, you have to look up the properties of water. Not too difficult,
>> even if it is not in a book
>> on your shelf.
>>
> unless you want an algebraic answer, you need proportions.
This is somewhat amusing but not enough to actually look up the calories
per gram per degree (C,F,K) pick one.
Bill Baka
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Date: 24 May 2007 16:42:52
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 06:06:44 -0700, jim beam
<spamvortex@bad.example.net > wrote:
>R Brickston wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 May 2007 22:28:29 -0700, jim beam
>> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Michael Press wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>> 2. A gram of water is super-cooled to -40 C. It
>>>> spontaneously undergoes a phase change to a mixture of
>>>> water-ice. What is the change in entropy?
>>> what's the proportion of water-ice in this mixture?
>>
>> Please, let Dr. Baka the Physics major answer it.
>
>but the question is incomplete, dumb-ass.
If so, then Baka should be the one to figure out that it's not. In
fact, I wonder if the OP asked the question in this way for that
specific reason.
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Date: 24 May 2007 23:16:41
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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In article <mjfb53l8h0qgp7cshot4i9j6ops3cu4d1b@4ax.com >,
R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@ > wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 06:06:44 -0700, jim beam
> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>
> >R Brickston wrote:
> >> On Wed, 23 May 2007 22:28:29 -0700, jim beam
> >> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Michael Press wrote:
> >>> <snip>
> >>>> 2. A gram of water is super-cooled to -40 C. It
> >>>> spontaneously undergoes a phase change to a mixture of
> >>>> water-ice. What is the change in entropy?
> >>> what's the proportion of water-ice in this mixture?
> >>
> >> Please, let Dr. Baka the Physics major answer it.
> >
> >but the question is incomplete, dumb-ass.
>
> If so, then Baka should be the one to figure out that it's not. In
> fact, I wonder if the OP asked the question in this way for that
> specific reason.
Serious students of secondary school chemistry remember
the phrase `latent heat of fusion.'
--
Michael Press
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Date: 24 May 2007 23:27:50
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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Michael Press wrote:
> In article <mjfb53l8h0qgp7cshot4i9j6ops3cu4d1b@4ax.com>,
> R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote:
>> If so, then Baka should be the one to figure out that it's not. In
>> fact, I wonder if the OP asked the question in this way for that
>> specific reason.
>
> Serious students of secondary school chemistry remember
> the phrase `latent heat of fusion.'
>
OK,
The amount of heat required to change a standard weight from solid, to
liquid, to vapor, with water being among the highest naturally occurring
compound.
Also if it's flash frozen to -40C/F crossover point, it should all be
solid, unless a certain amount remains super-cooled but not frozen.
There would also be a noticeable lack of crystalline spurs, since sperm
can be frozen and revived but not a whole body since the heat doesn't
'flash' out.
Wrong group, and the math could get a bit much, some of which I hated 40
years ago.
Bill Baka
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Date: 25 May 2007 08:27:04
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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In article <Wbp5i.8809$H_.7700@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net >,
Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
> Michael Press wrote:
> > In article <mjfb53l8h0qgp7cshot4i9j6ops3cu4d1b@4ax.com>,
> > R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote:
> >> If so, then Baka should be the one to figure out that it's not. In
> >> fact, I wonder if the OP asked the question in this way for that
> >> specific reason.
> >
> > Serious students of secondary school chemistry remember
> > the phrase `latent heat of fusion.'
> >
> OK,
> The amount of heat required to change a standard weight from solid, to
> liquid, to vapor, with water being among the highest naturally occurring
> compound.
> Also if it's flash frozen to -40C/F crossover point, it should all be
> solid, unless a certain amount remains super-cooled but not frozen.
> There would also be a noticeable lack of crystalline spurs, since sperm
> can be frozen and revived but not a whole body since the heat doesn't
> 'flash' out.
> Wrong group, and the math could get a bit much, some of which I hated 40
> years ago.
Not flash frozen; rather super-cooled water.
Question is what is the change in entropy upon
phase change from super-cooled water
to ice and liquid water mixture.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 25 May 2007 20:03:25
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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Michael Press wrote:
> In article <Wbp5i.8809$H_.7700@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net>,
> Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Michael Press wrote:
>>> In article <mjfb53l8h0qgp7cshot4i9j6ops3cu4d1b@4ax.com>,
>>> R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote:
>>>> If so, then Baka should be the one to figure out that it's not. In
>>>> fact, I wonder if the OP asked the question in this way for that
>>>> specific reason.
>>> Serious students of secondary school chemistry remember
>>> the phrase `latent heat of fusion.'
>>>
>> OK,
>> The amount of heat required to change a standard weight from solid, to
>> liquid, to vapor, with water being among the highest naturally occurring
>> compound.
>> Also if it's flash frozen to -40C/F crossover point, it should all be
>> solid, unless a certain amount remains super-cooled but not frozen.
>> There would also be a noticeable lack of crystalline spurs, since sperm
>> can be frozen and revived but not a whole body since the heat doesn't
>> 'flash' out.
>> Wrong group, and the math could get a bit much, some of which I hated 40
>> years ago.
>
> Not flash frozen; rather super-cooled water.
> Question is what is the change in entropy upon
> phase change from super-cooled water
> to ice and liquid water mixture.
>
If it's all at -40 and stays that way the entropy is temperature
dependent. If it figures out that it should be frozen then the state
change should pop the ice up to a higher temperature but with the same
overall entropy.
Super heated water is where I have a problem with my microwave.
Hot dogs sometimes get to way more than the boiling point in a microwave
and then explode 5 or ten seconds after being taken out.
Fun with physics.
Bill Baka
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Date: 24 May 2007 22:54:11
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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R Brickston wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 06:06:44 -0700, jim beam
> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>
>> R Brickston wrote:
>>> On Wed, 23 May 2007 22:28:29 -0700, jim beam
>>> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Michael Press wrote:
>>>> <snip>
>>>>> 2. A gram of water is super-cooled to -40 C. It
>>>>> spontaneously undergoes a phase change to a mixture of
>>>>> water-ice. What is the change in entropy?
>>>> what's the proportion of water-ice in this mixture?
>>> Please, let Dr. Baka the Physics major answer it.
>> but the question is incomplete, dumb-ass.
>
> If so, then Baka should be the one to figure out that it's not. In
> fact, I wonder if the OP asked the question in this way for that
> specific reason.
I was having fun watching you guys.
Here's one answer.
Deflate the Soccer ball and anything will balance on it.
The pea aside from being too small is also very hard surfaced and will
roll very easily.
Even if you could balance the Sugar, depending on the humidity it
absorbed on one side or the other, the balance would change and topple
the works. Or a light breath.
That was my comic answer.
As you were.
Bill Baka
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Date: 24 May 2007 23:23:32
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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In article <nIo5i.30011$Um6.1141@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net >,
Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
> R Brickston wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 May 2007 06:06:44 -0700, jim beam
> > <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >
> >> R Brickston wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 23 May 2007 22:28:29 -0700, jim beam
> >>> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Michael Press wrote:
> >>>> <snip>
> >>>>> 2. A gram of water is super-cooled to -40 C. It
> >>>>> spontaneously undergoes a phase change to a mixture of
> >>>>> water-ice. What is the change in entropy?
> >>>> what's the proportion of water-ice in this mixture?
> >>> Please, let Dr. Baka the Physics major answer it.
> >> but the question is incomplete, dumb-ass.
> >
> > If so, then Baka should be the one to figure out that it's not. In
> > fact, I wonder if the OP asked the question in this way for that
> > specific reason.
>
> I was having fun watching you guys.
> Here's one answer.
> Deflate the Soccer ball and anything will balance on it.
> The pea aside from being too small is also very hard surfaced and will
> roll very easily.
> Even if you could balance the Sugar, depending on the humidity it
> absorbed on one side or the other, the balance would change and topple
> the works. Or a light breath.
> That was my comic answer.
You cannot answer seriously. Say that you
do not know how to approach these questions.
I double-dog dare you.
Bonus question, mathematics section.
What is the order of the group of units modulo 315,
that is
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Date: 24 May 2007 16:38:20
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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Michael Press wrote:
> In article <nIo5i.30011$Um6.1141@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net>,
> Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>> That was my comic answer.
>
> You cannot answer seriously. Say that you
> do not know how to approach these questions.
> I double-dog dare you.
See the 4:?? P.M. Answer before this one.
>
> Bonus question, mathematics section.
>
> What is the order of the group of units modulo 315,
> that is
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Date: 25 May 2007 02:40:29
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 16:38:20 -0700, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
>Michael Press wrote:
>> In article <nIo5i.30011$Um6.1141@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net>,
>> Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> That was my comic answer.
>>
>> You cannot answer seriously. Say that you
>> do not know how to approach these questions.
>> I double-dog dare you.
>See the 4:?? P.M. Answer before this one.
>
>>
>> Bonus question, mathematics section.
>>
>> What is the order of the group of units modulo 315,
>> that is
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Date: 24 May 2007 21:44:05
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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R Brickston wrote:
> And an even more obvious evasion, Docktor Baka.
Just ignoring the noise.
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Date: 25 May 2007 05:40:47
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 21:44:05 -0700, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
>R Brickston wrote:
>> And an even more obvious evasion, Docktor Baka.
>
>Just ignoring the noise.
No you're not, you can't figure it out, "Docktor."
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Date: 23 May 2007 20:03:02
From: Teh Plonker
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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On Wed, 23 May 2007 21:41:11 GMT, R Brickston wrote:
> What's with the hangup on boobs?
>
> I know, I'm rambling again
>
> also of dogs which I will turn around and chase back into their yard.
> I haven't bitten a dog yet, but I haven't caught one yet either.
>
> I now know I will never be the dumbest asshole on the planet.
>
> My objective is to get the hell away from people and their opinions.
>
> That logic even an idiot like you should be able to figure out.
>
> I trolled on the tricycle, the near 200 on the motorcycle was NOT made
> up, I just didn't get caught and clocked at that speed, whatever it
> may have actually been. Definitely over 170, a lot over.
>
> I can do 160 MPH on my bike. How? Sky dive with it and try to land on
> the wheels.
>
> This group is misc. and I intend to stay misc and not try to corrupt
> the thinking of small minds.
>
> My memory goes back farther than yours
>
> It really isn't all about me
>
> This group tends to be of the pseudo intellectual sort so I won't go
> into anything too deep here.
>
> You people never do listen to what I am saying, do you?
>
> My bike weighs about 50lbs
>
> the tricycle which was the main troll could not have actually done
> over 20.
>
> You guys need someone to pick on, and I am not a troll, so...
>
> I go where there are no stores, or supples, or even phone service.
>
> Don't try to get me started on that again.
>
> You can say stupid but I bet I will be alive to piss on your grave.
>
> Before you ASSume I am blowing bullshit try riding the same road.
>
> Get off your stupid ass and ride it then.
>
> I don't have to justify myself to one who knows nothing of the
> excitement of going very, very fast.
>
> When was the last time you had to bail onto the sidewalk because a
> harvesting machine came by overhanging 'both' sides of the road
>
> They were fucking walking!!!!
>
> Jesus H. Christ, my reaction times are better than many half my age.
>
> Your city boy views don't matter squat to me.
>
> I don't give a damn if I live to 150 or go tomorrow, as long as I
> enjoy myself and get to irritate petty snobs
>
> I was going to buy a new plane for about $30,000 but my wife went on
> the test flight and almost fainted when she found out it was me flying
> and not the salesman.
>
> Chemistry was one of my minors in college, after electronics, math,
> and physics.
>
> Why do cows want to race me?
>
> He has come out against stem cell research, abortion rights, and gay
> marriage because the Pope told him to
>
> I am not going to do the history lesson that you obviously missed.
>
> Sorry, I have better things to do than educate the challenged.
>
> I drive people at work nuts too.
>
> Need I say more?
>
> I am not trying to be a public asshole
>
> it is NOT a safe road to bike on, regardless of any opinions.
>
> I should ride more and type less,
>
> Touchy group.
>
> You may not have to killfile me, I may just go away, since this group
> is a little too touchy.
>
> The first 3 idiots, err assholes.
>
> Idiot/asshole number 4.
>
> Why in the hell am I posting to this thread???
>
> Sorry, my style is not mainstream, in much of anything.
>
> Strictly on topic would be boring compared to some of the random sub
> threads that get started.
>
> GW is trying to impose elections and Christianity upon Iraq
>
> Fucking nit picking. So a liter or Kilogram is 2.2 pounds, big assed
> deal. I could have given it to you in thirty decimal places but some
> of you guys are such fanatics you would be worrying about the last
> picogram. You guys are hopeless.
>
> I post at random and do sometimes over post when I am really bored.
>
> I can start a fight in an empty room
>
> also did that at 3:30 in the morning, typing between bed, taking a
> leak, and back to bed.
>
> All in all it is a pretty good guess that I have been riding since
> well before you
> were even born
>
> Under Bush, given the chance, we won't need to since we will all have
> subcutaneous implants.
>
> 500 grams is only 1 pound, so 250 is only a quarter pound,
>
> I spent the weekend in jail for a 12 year old parking ticket that I
> did not get.
>
> Riding a bicycle with a camera and binoculars and somebody cell phoned
> me in as a potential terrorist.
>
> Had you been in my Mustang or (if you dared) the back of my hot rod
> motorcycle you would A. believe me. B. never get on a bike with me
> again.
>
> did roll a car at 85 and spent 6 months in the hospital in 1970 and
> endoed a bike at near 80 with no broken bones but plenty of road rash
>
> If all idiots had my IQ it would be a strange world but I would have
> someone to talk to.
>
> I am not a doctor but I do know some things about how the police
> organization works.
>
> I only post to keep things from getting too stuffy on this group, and
> there seem to be a lot of people with way too high an opinion of
> themselves.
>
> Sometimes I do post to annoy those certain individuals, but mostly I
> try to stay semi on topic.
>
> My last 2 engineering work reviews described me as intimidating to the
> other engineers.
>
> Kind of strange getting laid off when I was designing electronics for
> military use.
>
> The police are NOT your friends
>
> If being a sheep and following the flock get respect then I don't want
> it.
>
> I could write in Scholarly English, err, American, but it does not
> serve my purpose.
>
> I took one of those on line IQ tests and did a cut and paste of it
> [snip]
*PLONK*
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Date: 23 May 2007 22:00:22
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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Teh Plonker wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 21:41:11 GMT, R Brickston wrote:
>
>> What's with the hangup on boobs?
>>
>> I know, I'm rambling again
>>
>> also of dogs which I will turn around and chase back into their yard.
>> I haven't bitten a dog yet, but I haven't caught one yet either.
>>
>> I now know I will never be the dumbest asshole on the planet.
>>
>> My objective is to get the hell away from people and their opinions.
>>
>> That logic even an idiot like you should be able to figure out.
>>
>> I trolled on the tricycle, the near 200 on the motorcycle was NOT
>> made up, I just didn't get caught and clocked at that speed,
>> whatever it may have actually been. Definitely over 170, a lot over.
>>
>> I can do 160 MPH on my bike. How? Sky dive with it and try to land on
>> the wheels.
>>
>> This group is misc. and I intend to stay misc and not try to corrupt
>> the thinking of small minds.
>>
>> My memory goes back farther than yours
>>
>> It really isn't all about me
>>
>> This group tends to be of the pseudo intellectual sort so I won't go
>> into anything too deep here.
>>
>> You people never do listen to what I am saying, do you?
>>
>> My bike weighs about 50lbs
>>
>> the tricycle which was the main troll could not have actually done
>> over 20.
>>
>> You guys need someone to pick on, and I am not a troll, so...
>>
>> I go where there are no stores, or supples, or even phone service.
>>
>> Don't try to get me started on that again.
>>
>> You can say stupid but I bet I will be alive to piss on your grave.
>>
>> Before you ASSume I am blowing bullshit try riding the same road.
>>
>> Get off your stupid ass and ride it then.
>>
>> I don't have to justify myself to one who knows nothing of the
>> excitement of going very, very fast.
>>
>> When was the last time you had to bail onto the sidewalk because a
>> harvesting machine came by overhanging 'both' sides of the road
>>
>> They were fucking walking!!!!
>>
>> Jesus H. Christ, my reaction times are better than many half my age.
>>
>> Your city boy views don't matter squat to me.
>>
>> I don't give a damn if I live to 150 or go tomorrow, as long as I
>> enjoy myself and get to irritate petty snobs
>>
>> I was going to buy a new plane for about $30,000 but my wife went on
>> the test flight and almost fainted when she found out it was me
>> flying and not the salesman.
>>
>> Chemistry was one of my minors in college, after electronics, math,
>> and physics.
>>
>> Why do cows want to race me?
>>
>> He has come out against stem cell research, abortion rights, and gay
>> marriage because the Pope told him to
>>
>> I am not going to do the history lesson that you obviously missed.
>>
>> Sorry, I have better things to do than educate the challenged.
>>
>> I drive people at work nuts too.
>>
>> Need I say more?
>>
>> I am not trying to be a public asshole
>>
>> it is NOT a safe road to bike on, regardless of any opinions.
>>
>> I should ride more and type less,
>>
>> Touchy group.
>>
>> You may not have to killfile me, I may just go away, since this group
>> is a little too touchy.
>>
>> The first 3 idiots, err assholes.
>>
>> Idiot/asshole number 4.
>>
>> Why in the hell am I posting to this thread???
>>
>> Sorry, my style is not mainstream, in much of anything.
>>
>> Strictly on topic would be boring compared to some of the random sub
>> threads that get started.
>>
>> GW is trying to impose elections and Christianity upon Iraq
>>
>> Fucking nit picking. So a liter or Kilogram is 2.2 pounds, big assed
>> deal. I could have given it to you in thirty decimal places but some
>> of you guys are such fanatics you would be worrying about the last
>> picogram. You guys are hopeless.
>>
>> I post at random and do sometimes over post when I am really bored.
>>
>> I can start a fight in an empty room
>>
>> also did that at 3:30 in the morning, typing between bed, taking a
>> leak, and back to bed.
>>
>> All in all it is a pretty good guess that I have been riding since
>> well before you
>> were even born
>>
>> Under Bush, given the chance, we won't need to since we will all have
>> subcutaneous implants.
>>
>> 500 grams is only 1 pound, so 250 is only a quarter pound,
>>
>> I spent the weekend in jail for a 12 year old parking ticket that I
>> did not get.
>>
>> Riding a bicycle with a camera and binoculars and somebody cell
>> phoned me in as a potential terrorist.
>>
>> Had you been in my Mustang or (if you dared) the back of my hot rod
>> motorcycle you would A. believe me. B. never get on a bike with me
>> again.
>>
>> did roll a car at 85 and spent 6 months in the hospital in 1970 and
>> endoed a bike at near 80 with no broken bones but plenty of road rash
>>
>> If all idiots had my IQ it would be a strange world but I would have
>> someone to talk to.
>>
>> I am not a doctor but I do know some things about how the police
>> organization works.
>>
>> I only post to keep things from getting too stuffy on this group, and
>> there seem to be a lot of people with way too high an opinion of
>> themselves.
>>
>> Sometimes I do post to annoy those certain individuals, but mostly I
>> try to stay semi on topic.
>>
>> My last 2 engineering work reviews described me as intimidating to
>> the other engineers.
>>
>> Kind of strange getting laid off when I was designing electronics for
>> military use.
>>
>> The police are NOT your friends
>>
>> If being a sheep and following the flock get respect then I don't
>> want it.
>>
>> I could write in Scholarly English, err, American, but it does not
>> serve my purpose.
>>
>> I took one of those on line IQ tests and did a cut and paste of it
>> [snip]
>
> *PLONK*
A. Please snip before you plonk.
Q. Use a sentence that would draw blank stares before Usenet was invented.
Bill "slow evening" S.
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Date: 24 May 2007 15:48:13
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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Bill Sornson wrote:
> Teh Plonker wrote:
>> *PLONK*
>
> A. Please snip before you plonk.
>
> Q. Use a sentence that would draw blank stares before Usenet was invented.
>
> Bill "slow evening" S.
>
>
Bill,
I agree.
Bill (slow day) Baka
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Date: 23 May 2007 18:59:20
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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R Brickston wrote:
> What's with the hangup on boobs?
Who wants a girl who needs help sitting up?
>
> I know, I'm rambling again
More like following the ramble.
>
> also of dogs which I will turn around and chase back into their yard.
> I haven't bitten a dog yet, but I haven't caught one yet either.
It would get me in the news. "Man bites dog.". Chasing an aggressive dog
back into its' own yard usually means it will not chase you a second
time. Making petting friends works too.
>
> I now know I will never be the dumbest asshole on the planet.
Not as long as we have Brickstone and Bush.
>
> My objective is to get the hell away from people and their opinions.
>
> That logic even an idiot like you should be able to figure out.
Both of the above are applicable to Br.....
>
> I trolled on the tricycle, the near 200 on the motorcycle was NOT made
> up, I just didn't get caught and clocked at that speed, whatever it
> may have actually been. Definitely over 170, a lot over.
Accept it Brick boy, I had a damn fast motorcycle.
>
> I can do 160 MPH on my bike. How? Sky dive with it and try to land on
> the wheels.
It is possible but you would want a para-sail and clip pedals so you
could land in riding position.
>
> This group is misc. and I intend to stay misc and not try to corrupt
> the thinking of small minds.
>
> My memory goes back farther than yours
>
> It really isn't all about me
>
> This group tends to be of the pseudo intellectual sort so I won't go
> into anything too deep here.
>
> You people never do listen to what I am saying, do you?
Probably replies to this idiot Br.....
>
> My bike weighs about 50lbs
About 75 with the rear panniers full. Riding is for exercise, right?
>
> the tricycle which was the main troll could not have actually done
> over 20.
Maybe 23 if my car rolled to 25?
>
> You guys need someone to pick on, and I am not a troll, so...
I'm a rider whenever possible, and a cager when need be, or a motorcycle
rider if I can find a good bike.
>
> I go where there are no stores, or supples, or even phone service.
Look up Beale AFB in California, then go about 15 miles East. Trees,
creeks, waterfalls, and no people...or pavement.
>
> Don't try to get me started on that again.
>
> You can say stupid but I bet I will be alive to piss on your grave.
>
> Before you ASSume I am blowing bullshit try riding the same road.
>
> Get off your stupid ass and ride it then.
>
> I don't have to justify myself to one who knows nothing of the
> excitement of going very, very fast.
>
> When was the last time you had to bail onto the sidewalk because a
> harvesting machine came by overhanging 'both' sides of the road
>
> They were fucking walking!!!!
>
> Jesus H. Christ, my reaction times are better than many half my age.
>
> Your city boy views don't matter squat to me.
>
> I don't give a damn if I live to 150 or go tomorrow, as long as I
> enjoy myself and get to irritate petty snobs
As in Br...., the boy is proving to be an idiot and apparently a sissy
who won't get out in the woods at night. Try it, the stars are great.
>
> I was going to buy a new plane for about $30,000 but my wife went on
> the test flight and almost fainted when she found out it was me flying
> and not the salesman.
1977 Cessna at San Jose airport before it go so 'International'.
>
> Chemistry was one of my minors in college, after electronics, math,
> and physics.
Science geek == Me.
>
> Why do cows want to race me?
It happened once until they got to their fence line. I stopped and they
stopped. I started and they paced me. Why? Ask a cow Psychologist.
>
> He has come out against stem cell research, abortion rights, and gay
> marriage because the Pope told him to
Bush this time, sticking his finger in the wrong dyke.
>
> I am not going to do the history lesson that you obviously missed.
>
> Sorry, I have better things to do than educate the challenged.
>
> I drive people at work nuts too.
>
> Need I say more?
>
> I am not trying to be a public asshole
>
> it is NOT a safe road to bike on, regardless of any opinions.
>
> I should ride more and type less,
>
> Touchy group.
>
> You may not have to killfile me, I may just go away, since this group
> is a little too touchy.
>
> The first 3 idiots, err assholes.
>
> Idiot/asshole number 4.
>
> Why in the hell am I posting to this thread???
>
> Sorry, my style is not mainstream, in much of anything.
>
> Strictly on topic would be boring compared to some of the random sub
> threads that get started.
>
> GW is trying to impose elections and Christianity upon Iraq
We all know he just wants the oil by now.
>
> Fucking nit picking. So a liter or Kilogram is 2.2 pounds, big assed
> deal. I could have given it to you in thirty decimal places but some
> of you guys are such fanatics you would be worrying about the last
> picogram. You guys are hopeless.
>
> I post at random and do sometimes over post when I am really bored.
>
> I can start a fight in an empty room
That was attributed to me after a very heated engineering meeting.
>
> also did that at 3:30 in the morning, typing between bed, taking a
> leak, and back to bed.
>
> All in all it is a pretty good guess that I have been riding since
> well before you
> were even born
>
> Under Bush, given the chance, we won't need to since we will all have
> subcutaneous implants.
Homeland security at it's best.
>
> 500 grams is only 1 pound, so 250 is only a quarter pound,
Rounding a Kg to 2 pounds to simplify the math.
>
> I spent the weekend in jail for a 12 year old parking ticket that I
> did not get.
True. I loaned my car to a friend who got the ticket and forgot to tell me.
>
> Riding a bicycle with a camera and binoculars and somebody cell phoned
> me in as a potential terrorist.
2 years ago on a public road near Beale AFB. Got a free ride home in the
front seat of a Sheriff's car. Nice guy, but the FBI guy and Homeland
Security guy were both jerks, 6'4" jerks.
>
> Had you been in my Mustang or (if you dared) the back of my hot rod
> motorcycle you would A. believe me. B. never get on a bike with me
> again.
>
> did roll a car at 85 and spent 6 months in the hospital in 1970 and
> endoed a bike at near 80 with no broken bones but plenty of road rash
Killed my bike on the Fourth of July, 1976, bicentennial. Probably the
better outcome than the Hell's Angels re-enactment in Hollister we had
planned after 2 cases of beer.
>
> If all idiots had my IQ it would be a strange world but I would have
> someone to talk to.
>
> I am not a doctor but I do know some things about how the police
> organization works.
>
> I only post to keep things from getting too stuffy on this group, and
> there seem to be a lot of people with way too high an opinion of
> themselves.
>
> Sometimes I do post to annoy those certain individuals, but mostly I
> try to stay semi on topic.
Br.... is one of those I do try to irritate.
>
> My last 2 engineering work reviews described me as intimidating to the
> other engineers.
Kind of interesting actually, intimidating the PhD guys.
>
> Kind of strange getting laid off when I was designing electronics for
> military use.
11-06-01. Management change. New guy purged his enemies then cooked the
books to look good.
>
> The police are NOT your friends
They only tell you that in grade school.
>
> If being a sheep and following the flock get respect then I don't want
> it.
Home run.
>
> I could write in Scholarly English, err, American, but it does not
> serve my purpose.
I say color, the Brits say colour, I say here, they say 'ere.
We colonials did mess with the language.
>
> I took one of those on line IQ tests and did a cut and paste of it
> here so I am expecting a boat load of negative feedback.
That must have been the 150 I bothered to take a screen shot of.
>
> if you think my anecdotes are just plain ridiculous, good for you.
>
> I was a nutcase as a kid
And I am still a kid, just older.
>
> I have done things that I wouldn't presume to post on here since most
> readers would not believe me anyway
>
> I used to catch rattlesnakes by their tails
See what I mean? My wife freaks when I do that and my grandkids think
it's too cool. I just don't want them to try it.
>
> I get to places you might only see in a Discovery channel special
>
> something tells me that even if I put the pictures on my site and post
> a link you would think that I got the pictures from someone else.
I have found ghost towns that apparently were never even on a map.
>
> When you do tell the truth, nobody believes you.
>
> I can post pictures from the top of both the waterfall and the
> electrical tower but not of a pegged 160+ speedometer on a motorcycle.
I have the pictures to prove it, and no, I did not try to photograph my
speedometer. I'm a daredevil, not stupid.
Sorry about all this, but I can't reach around the globe and just erase
the problem poster, Brickston.
Apologies to all for his taking up space and bandwidth.
I would post some friends e-mail addresses that have been with me on
some of these but I won't do that to my friends.
Let Brickstone have his petty fun, then killfile him.
I did not come here for this.
Bill Baka
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Date: 23 May 2007 20:03:29
From: Teh Plonker
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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On Wed, 23 May 2007 18:59:20 -0700, Bill wrote:
> [snip]
*PLONK*
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Date: 23 May 2007 19:36:51
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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Bill wrote:
<snip >
> I did not come here for this.
> Bill Baka
who cares? why do /you/ care? just killfile him yourself. better yet,
don't feed the troll in the first place.
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Date: 23 May 2007 20:04:04
From: Teh Plonker
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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On Wed, 23 May 2007 19:36:51 -0700, jim beam wrote:
> [snip]
*PLONK*
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Date: 23 May 2007 20:09:51
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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Teh Plonker wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 19:36:51 -0700, jim beam wrote:
>
>> [snip]
>
> *PLONK*
Plonk Brickston, please.
Bill (harassment victim) Baka
I never thought I would have my very own stalker.
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Date: 23 May 2007 20:16:30
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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Bill wrote:
> Teh Plonker wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 May 2007 19:36:51 -0700, jim beam wrote:
>>
>>> [snip]
>>
>> *PLONK*
>
> Plonk Brickston, please.
> Bill (harassment victim) Baka
> I never thought I would have my very own stalker.
shut up, then you'll instantly stop being a victim. seriously.
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Date: 23 May 2007 21:58:07
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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jim beam wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> Teh Plonker wrote:
>>> On Wed, 23 May 2007 19:36:51 -0700, jim beam wrote:
>>>
>>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> *PLONK*
>>
>> Plonk Brickston, please.
>> Bill (harassment victim) Baka
>> I never thought I would have my very own stalker.
>
> shut up, then you'll instantly stop being a victim. seriously.
jobst will fix his user name before /that/ happens. seriously. LOL
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Date: 24 May 2007 02:44:06
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Baka - Selected Quotes Part II
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jim beam wrote:
> Bill wrote:
> <snip>
>> I did not come here for this.
>> Bill Baka
>
> who cares? why do /you/ care? just killfile him yourself. better yet,
> don't feed the troll in the first place.
I would but I am using Mozilla Thunderbird. I can kill him in the e-mail
but not in the newsgroups. He does kind of motivate me to maybe write a
filter module for the news part of the program.
Maybe when I have time.
Bill Baka
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