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Date: 31 Jul 2007 08:39:09
From: Phil Cox
Subject: Best HRM for the price
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I am looking at getting a HRM to help with training. I have a couple of
friends who use the Edge 305. Seems like overkill, but what a cool piece of
technology. I am trying to get recomendations on HRM's that provide the best
bang for the buck.
Note that I want it for general fitness, I do not plan on racing, but I do
charity rides (longest is a 24 hr ride), so I need to be in shape for them.
Thanks for any input.
As a side note, I have had a Timex before that I liked, as well as a ECG5
that seemed to be pretty good.
Phil
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Date: 15 Aug 2007 09:53:20
From: wle
Subject: Re: Best HRM for the price
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sports instruments FIT 2
$29 on sale, performance bike
the FIT 3 is better but the pin-holding part of the watch will break
off and the band falls off
i took 3 of them back to the store, finally i just made a band from
velcro and glued it on
wle.
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Date: 11 Aug 2007 22:24:38
From: EricC
Subject: Re: Best HRM for the price
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Edge 305- approx. $275 at Amazon, minus $75 rebate available.
Overkill? maybe, but you are right- it is cool- and at $200 not that
large a premium over buying wireless speed + wireless cadence + HR
separately. (not to mention they throw in the GPS!) So if you are
training for fitness, you will probably get some extra motivation
seeing how your performance is improving on comparable rides.
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Date: 01 Aug 2007 11:51:53
From: russellseaton1@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Best HRM for the price
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On Jul 31, 10:39 am, "Phil Cox" <n...@safewalls.net > wrote:
> I am looking at getting a HRM to help with training. I have a couple of
> friends who use the Edge 305. Seems like overkill, but what a cool piece of
> technology. I am trying to get recomendations on HRM's that provide the best
> bang for the buck.
>
> Note that I want it for general fitness, I do not plan on racing, but I do
> charity rides (longest is a 24 hr ride), so I need to be in shape for them.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> As a side note, I have had a Timex before that I liked, as well as a ECG5
> that seemed to be pretty good.
>
> Phil
I have one made by CardioSport that shows 0 heart rate when near power
lines. Presumably the newer models with digital connection or
something between the strap and the watch do not cutout when near
power lines. Something to check.
As for using it to train, not really. As a toy, yes.
Heart rate is not a very good indicator of training or even effort.
Many things such as dehydration, time of day, heat/humidity of the
environment, etc. affect heart rate. Heart rate is a general in the
ballpark aid. Of course in the ballpark means anything from an inside
the ballpark homerun to a flyball pop out to the catcher. Lot of
difference.
To train, you need a plan. Variety of books discuss this so you can
get a decent general plan. Then you need to execute the plan. If it
calls for hard interval work 2 days a week, you have to do it. You
can't ride along with your buddies. If it calls for a rest day of
easy pedaling, you can't ride a medium-hard pace with your buddies.
If you are serious about training, getting the most benefit for time
spent, you have to train by yourself most days. You can throw in a
group ride once a week if it fits into the training plan. But most
group riding is just recreational riding time. Not training time.
You more or less know if you are riding easy, medium, or hard without
a heart rate monitor.
Nashbar has heart rate monitors from $19.95 on up. Free shipping
right now. How much more bang for your buck do you want.
http://www.nashbar.com/results.cfm?subcategory=60001054&category=600094&browse=&storetype=&estoreid=&brand=&searchbox=&start=1&orderby=price1&pagename=Shop%20by%20Subcat%3A%20Heart%20Monitors
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Date: 01 Aug 2007 10:16:40
From: Alex
Subject: Re: Best HRM for the price
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On Jul 31, 11:39 am, "Phil Cox" <n...@safewalls.net > wrote:
> I am looking at getting a HRM to help with training. I have a couple of
> friends who use the Edge 305. Seems like overkill, but what a cool piece of
> technology. I am trying to get recomendations on HRM's that provide the best
> bang for the buck.
>
> Note that I want it for general fitness, I do not plan on racing, but I do
> charity rides (longest is a 24 hr ride), so I need to be in shape for them.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> As a side note, I have had a Timex before that I liked, as well as a ECG5
> that seemed to be pretty good.
What features do you need? A basic unit can be had for under $50.
More
features add to the price. You need to know what you need first.
Then you
can shop for a unit.
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Alex
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Date: 01 Aug 2007 02:45:09
From: Donga
Subject: Re: Best HRM for the price
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On Aug 1, 5:40 pm, Artoi <ar...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> But if you just want to buy a gadget to play with, then go ahead.
> --
... and he said he did. Polar CS100 is pretty good.
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Date: 01 Aug 2007 07:40:31
From: Artoi
Subject: Re: Best HRM for the price
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In article <cfKdnVuyCI8gyjLbnZ2dnUVZ_hisnZ2d@wavecable.com >,
"Phil Cox" <news@safewalls.net > wrote:
> I am looking at getting a HRM to help with training. I have a couple of
> friends who use the Edge 305. Seems like overkill, but what a cool piece of
> technology. I am trying to get recomendations on HRM's that provide the best
> bang for the buck.
>
> Note that I want it for general fitness, I do not plan on racing, but I do
> charity rides (longest is a 24 hr ride), so I need to be in shape for them.
>
> Thanks for any input.
For general fitness, just ride long and hard. You really don't need a
HRM.
HRM and Power Meters are useful to essential if you are racing where you
need to know exactly how far you are from the red zone. For general
fitness riding, even if you want to target the fat loosing zone, you
can pretty much tell based on your physical state of exertion. No need
to be so precise.
But if you just want to buy a gadget to play with, then go ahead.
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Date: 01 Aug 2007 11:48:55
From: Lou Holtman
Subject: Re: Best HRM for the price
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Artoi wrote:
> In article <cfKdnVuyCI8gyjLbnZ2dnUVZ_hisnZ2d@wavecable.com>,
> "Phil Cox" <news@safewalls.net> wrote:
>
>> I am looking at getting a HRM to help with training. I have a couple of
>> friends who use the Edge 305. Seems like overkill, but what a cool piece of
>> technology. I am trying to get recomendations on HRM's that provide the best
>> bang for the buck.
>>
>> Note that I want it for general fitness, I do not plan on racing, but I do
>> charity rides (longest is a 24 hr ride), so I need to be in shape for them.
>>
>> Thanks for any input.
>
> For general fitness, just ride long and hard. You really don't need a
> HRM.
>
> HRM and Power Meters are useful to essential if you are racing where you
> need to know exactly how far you are from the red zone. For general
> fitness riding, even if you want to target the fat loosing zone, you
> can pretty much tell based on your physical state of exertion. No need
> to be so precise.
A good working HRM can be as cheap as 30 euro. So there is no need not
to be so precise.
Lou
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Date: 01 Aug 2007 11:20:01
From: Artoi
Subject: Re: Best HRM for the price
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In article <46b0570b$1@news.nb.nu >,
Lou Holtman <lholremovethis@planet.nl > wrote:
> Artoi wrote:
> > In article <cfKdnVuyCI8gyjLbnZ2dnUVZ_hisnZ2d@wavecable.com>,
> > "Phil Cox" <news@safewalls.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I am looking at getting a HRM to help with training. I have a couple of
> >> friends who use the Edge 305. Seems like overkill, but what a cool piece
> >> of
> >> technology. I am trying to get recomendations on HRM's that provide the
> >> best
> >> bang for the buck.
> >>
> >> Note that I want it for general fitness, I do not plan on racing, but I do
> >> charity rides (longest is a 24 hr ride), so I need to be in shape for
> >> them.
> >>
> >> Thanks for any input.
> >
> > For general fitness, just ride long and hard. You really don't need a
> > HRM.
> >
> > HRM and Power Meters are useful to essential if you are racing where you
> > need to know exactly how far you are from the red zone. For general
> > fitness riding, even if you want to target the fat loosing zone, you
> > can pretty much tell based on your physical state of exertion. No need
> > to be so precise.
>
> A good working HRM can be as cheap as 30 euro. So there is no need not
> to be so precise.
True. But the point is, you don't need it to get good training.
If one rides with a bunch, the pace will be primarily be dictated by
the group. If he really want to train based on HRM or PM, then one needs
to ride solo and ride at a HR specific pace. Otherwise it's a bit of a
waste. I just hate seeing people buying a gadget and then seeing the
same in a landfill in 6 months time. Our environment doesn't need that
any more.
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Date: 01 Aug 2007 17:13:30
From: Lou Holtman
Subject: Re: Best HRM for the price
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Artoi wrote:
> In article <46b0570b$1@news.nb.nu>,
> Lou Holtman <lholremovethis@planet.nl> wrote:
>
>> Artoi wrote:
>>> In article <cfKdnVuyCI8gyjLbnZ2dnUVZ_hisnZ2d@wavecable.com>,
>>> "Phil Cox" <news@safewalls.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am looking at getting a HRM to help with training. I have a couple of
>>>> friends who use the Edge 305. Seems like overkill, but what a cool piece
>>>> of
>>>> technology. I am trying to get recomendations on HRM's that provide the
>>>> best
>>>> bang for the buck.
>>>>
>>>> Note that I want it for general fitness, I do not plan on racing, but I do
>>>> charity rides (longest is a 24 hr ride), so I need to be in shape for
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any input.
>>> For general fitness, just ride long and hard. You really don't need a
>>> HRM.
>>>
>>> HRM and Power Meters are useful to essential if you are racing where you
>>> need to know exactly how far you are from the red zone. For general
>>> fitness riding, even if you want to target the fat loosing zone, you
>>> can pretty much tell based on your physical state of exertion. No need
>>> to be so precise.
>> A good working HRM can be as cheap as 30 euro. So there is no need not
>> to be so precise.
>
> True. But the point is, you don't need it to get good training.
>
> If one rides with a bunch, the pace will be primarily be dictated by
> the group.
You are never in front?
> If he really want to train based on HRM or PM, then one needs
> to ride solo and ride at a HR specific pace. Otherwise it's a bit of a
> waste.
No it isn't.
> I just hate seeing people buying a gadget and then seeing the
> same in a landfill in 6 months time. Our environment doesn't need that
> any more.
Wow..I think you have to worry about a million other thinks first.
Lou
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Date: 02 Aug 2007 00:52:30
From: Artoi
Subject: Re: Best HRM for the price
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In article <46b0a31e$1@news.nb.nu >,
Lou Holtman <lholremovethis@planet.nl > wrote:
> Artoi wrote:
> > In article <46b0570b$1@news.nb.nu>,
> > If one rides with a bunch, the pace will be primarily be dictated by
> > the group.
>
> You are never in front?
Given OP's experience, I suspect he is more likely to be primarily a
middle of the bunch rider.
> > If he really want to train based on HRM or PM, then one needs
> > to ride solo and ride at a HR specific pace. Otherwise it's a bit of a
> > waste.
>
> No it isn't.
Well, I guess there's different level of efficiency. If efficiency isn't
so high up in the list of priorities, then the precision of a HRM isn't
really justified.
> > I just hate seeing people buying a gadget and then seeing the
> > same in a landfill in 6 months time. Our environment doesn't need that
> > any more.
>
> Wow..I think you have to worry about a million other thinks first.
Every little bit matters. :P
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Date: 01 Aug 2007 11:26:34
From: Michael Warner
Subject: Re: Best HRM for the price
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 08:39:09 -0700, Phil Cox wrote:
> I am looking at getting a HRM to help with training. I have a couple of
> friends who use the Edge 305. Seems like overkill, but what a cool piece of
> technology.
Are your friends faster and stronger than you? My problem with them is that
everyone I ride with who uses a HRM is fatter and slower than me, so
clearly they have a negative effect.
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