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Date: 23 May 2007 03:05:16
From: R Brickston
Subject: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
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I rode a tricycle at nearly 50 mph when I was 4 or 5 years old down a
hill and got brought home by the cops in like 1952
I can build a bomb from kitchen cleaning chemicals or even make nerve
gas without even having to think too much. Phosgene is too easy.
my hearing way beyond that of the normal 56 year old.
160+ MPH with my Mustang, once racing a CHP at his request
and the one time of way over 160 on a motorcycle. I did get off and
kiss the ground after that one.
I used to pass cars on the freeway at 65+ while doing a wheelie just
for the looks on their faces
a race prepped 1973 Kawasaki 750... Wheelied that one once at 120+
I once pegged a 160 MPH speedometer, but only once.
I actually have to agree with you this time.
am very safe and confident and have been riding since 1951. My first
road trip was in 1953 when I took my trike out on the highway to see
haw fast I could go down a big hill. About 35, feet off pedals, and
having a blast. At the bottom a local cop picked me up and took me
back home, saying I was the youngest rider he had ever seen on the
road. 4.5 years old.
hat was basically the point since I grew up in Chicago and couldn't
find hills until I rode North to the Wisconsin border.
That's insane. 50 MPH downhill on pavement is my record and I am
positively not looking to break that on the side of a mountain.
There will be no convincing people of what I have done since there
were no witnesses other than myself. The trike speed was purely a
provocation, the motorcycle getting close to 200 MPH was not, and the
Mustang I had was taken past 160 by both me and my wife.
he bike had a 160 MPH speedo which pegged at about 170, after which
the tach continued to gain from that point, about 8,000 RPM to nearly
9,000.
I used to be a REAL biker when I rode a motorcycle and rode with the
gang types on Harleys.
the motorcycle getting close to 200 MPH
Anyway, my need for speed pretty much went away after that, and I have
kept it under 140 ever since, and that was only once in 1990.
I electrocuted myself once when I was maybe 12, climbing a tree and
touching a 12,000 volt wire, then getting a jump start hitting the
ground flat on my back
Doing 130MPH on a vacant road is a lot safer than lane splitting in a
traffic jam, and no I did not mean to mislead people that I pedaled a
bicycle that fast.
At one point I dreamed of getting my hands on a surplus F-104 to feed
my need for speed but the Air Force is kind of tight with surplus
supersonic jets.
I'm well above MENSA
Bowling 229, wifes bowling 289. 1966 Chrysler Newport with 1968 440
Police engine, about 152
I have interests in sooo many subjects ranging from sub-atomic to
trans-universal that it is hard to focus on just one.
In person I am much more sociable than on this group
I am just tired of self proclaimed experts who don't actually know
something (or have been taught the wrong something) trying to rag on
everything I say about just about anything.
My usual occupation is analog electronic design engineer, test
equipment specialist, motion control and stability, programmer when
needed, and much more when called upon.
My interests, as stated at the beginning, are hugely varied, but
almost all related to absolute sciences, whether it be math, physics,
chemistry, or so many more. Magazine subscriptions run the gamut from
the obvious electronics, to NASA Tech Briefs, Modern Drug
Discovery/Design, Genomics and Proteomics, and whatever I can get my
hands on, about 30 in all. I would clog the bandwidth, again, if I
tried to list them all. Riding gives me the opportunity to interact
with and observe both nature and new people at random.
In person I am much more sociable than on this group, and have stopped
to help a stranded 'motorist', comforted an injured child while
calling for help on my cell phone, and more often than not, just stop
and talk with strangers I meet on the road. If we ever meet, it will
be interesting, that much I do know. I don't want to go overboard
today, so I will leave it there. Good riding to you.
The best wheelie machine I ever had was a race prepped 1973 Kawasaki
750 2 stroke triple, just give it too much throttle in first or
second, no clutch popping required. Wheelied that one once at 120+
shifting into 5th gear too hard, real eye opener.
I actually have to agree with you this time.
I admit to dressing way down when going to a car lot, to the point one
guy asked me to leave.
I am just tired of self proclaimed experts who don't actually know
something (or have been taught the wrong something) trying to rag on
everything I say about just about anything.
I lived in the big city, S.F. Bay area long enough to have 3 cars,
3 motorcycles, and even a vintage ten speed stolen from in front
of my open front door. All were recovered, but 2 cars were totaled,
1 bike was undamaged, 1 was stripped down by some kid trying to
make it into a dirt bike, and one was spotted by the police. The
kid that stole the last one must have been brain dead since he
laft the license plate on the bike facing the street. Never had
anything stolen since I moved to the country, but a whole lot less
steady employment, and more telecommuting for less money. Still
worth it though. Buy a junker car/bike for getting the groceries
and keep the good one under/around you. If my old Mazda gets stolen
big deal, but if my classic Motobecane bike gets stolen I will be
out for blood.
Uh Ken, most riding in the city is flat so who cares what the bike
weighs?
San Francisco is one of the exceptions. I don't even like to drive a
car there, especially not a stick, because of all those damn stop
signs right at the top of a hill. Besides, I will stick with a
mountain bike in S.F. just for the extra low gears. Not that I
ever plan to bike there. I would still feel safer with a MTB due
to the trolley rails.
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Date: 24 May 2007 04:44:13
From: DanKMTB@gmail.com
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
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On May 24, 1:03 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca > wrote:
> In article <it65i.9833$rO7.1...@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>,
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill <b...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > > In article <rubrum-E1D18C.11051623052...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,
> > > Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > >> I expect the high wind force to power a positive
> > >> feedback loop and blow the motorcycle all the way over,
> > >> the way hydroplane boats go skittering end over end
> > >> like a paper plate once the wind gets underneath. How
> > >> does a rider maintain control?
>
> > Very carefully over 100 MPH. Sitting upright at about 150 will blow you
> > back so hard that your death grip on the handlebars can pull the bike
> > up. I tried it once, stupidly, I admit, and could turn the front wheel
> > with no effect on the direction of the bike. Once I got my head back
> > between the tach and speedometer I got steering back.
>
> > > Well, there's a balance, but it's probably lower than you think.
> > > Motorcycles are not hydroplanes, aerodynamically speaking.
>
> > > Mr. V. Rossi demonstrates the possibility of a very high-speed wheelie:
>
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRLpX71ZRz4
>
> > > I propose that physics assumptions should follow the emperical evidence.
>
> > > Also, I was actually looking for a fairly famous clip wherein Rossi (or
> > > some other GP champ?) does a highly epic post-race wheelie in which the
> > > rider almost but not quite rolls the bike over backwards.
>
> > If he got the front wheel more than a foot off the ground at any speed
> > over 150 he would have had to lock the rear brake to get back down.
> > There are limits to balance bravery, showmanship, and Physics.
> > Going down at that speed on a paved track would almost certainly mean
> > painful road rash even through a race suit.
> > You can't beat Physics.
>
> Mr. Sundquist found the clip I was thinking of. It was Max Biaggi, the
> second-craziest Italian motorcycle racer of the end of the GP500 era:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzAZgB_jOGY
>
> He's not going particularly fast (surely less than 100 mph), but he sure
> does test the limits of how high a bike's nose can be and not be on its
> way to a location somewhere behind the rear wheel. I do not commend it
> to any other rider to attempt to find a further point.
>
> --
> Ryan Cousineau rcous...@sfu.cahttp://www.wiredcola.com/
> "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
> to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Nice clip! Every once in a while you'll see stunters bring a bike
impossibly high and back, but never at speeds they would have a
problem jumping off the bike from. While not 150mph, Max would have
had been in a bit of a spot if that came over. Bravo.
Have you ever seen the "ghostrider" stuff? There are a bunch of
amateurs putting that name on their stuff now to get hits, but the
original dude was/is sick. Motorcycle News identified him as Pat
Furstenhoff a while back when he broke the world wheelie speed record
at 215MPH. 215 is above my personal fastest, and I have trouble
imagining it. To do it in a wheelie... *hat off*
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Date: 24 May 2007 21:52:35
From: Bill
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
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DanKMTB@gmail.com wrote:
> On May 24, 1:03 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
>> In article <it65i.9833$rO7.1...@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>,
>>
>> Mr. Sundquist found the clip I was thinking of. It was Max Biaggi, the
>> second-craziest Italian motorcycle racer of the end of the GP500 era:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzAZgB_jOGY
>>
>> He's not going particularly fast (surely less than 100 mph), but he sure
>> does test the limits of how high a bike's nose can be and not be on its
>> way to a location somewhere behind the rear wheel. I do not commend it
>> to any other rider to attempt to find a further point.
>>
>> --
>> Ryan Cousineau rcous...@sfu.cahttp://www.wiredcola.com/
>> "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
>> to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Nice clip! Every once in a while you'll see stunters bring a bike
> impossibly high and back, but never at speeds they would have a
> problem jumping off the bike from. While not 150mph, Max would have
> had been in a bit of a spot if that came over. Bravo.
>
> Have you ever seen the "ghostrider" stuff? There are a bunch of
> amateurs putting that name on their stuff now to get hits, but the
> original dude was/is sick. Motorcycle News identified him as Pat
> Furstenhoff a while back when he broke the world wheelie speed record
> at 215MPH. 215 is above my personal fastest, and I have trouble
> imagining it. To do it in a wheelie... *hat off*
>
200 (or very close) is more than enough on good pavement when you look
at the telephone poles next to the road flashing by.
215 on the salt flats with a really thick road rash suit I might try.
A wheelie at that speed just proves that I am not the craziest guy on a
bike.
The *hat off* might be at this guys' funeral.
Bill (mellowing now) Baka
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Date: 24 May 2007 23:10:03
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 21:52:35 GMT, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
>DanKMTB@gmail.com wrote:
>> On May 24, 1:03 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
>>> In article <it65i.9833$rO7.1...@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>,
>>>
>>> Mr. Sundquist found the clip I was thinking of. It was Max Biaggi, the
>>> second-craziest Italian motorcycle racer of the end of the GP500 era:
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzAZgB_jOGY
>>>
>>> He's not going particularly fast (surely less than 100 mph), but he sure
>>> does test the limits of how high a bike's nose can be and not be on its
>>> way to a location somewhere behind the rear wheel. I do not commend it
>>> to any other rider to attempt to find a further point.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ryan Cousineau rcous...@sfu.cahttp://www.wiredcola.com/
>>> "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
>>> to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Nice clip! Every once in a while you'll see stunters bring a bike
>> impossibly high and back, but never at speeds they would have a
>> problem jumping off the bike from. While not 150mph, Max would have
>> had been in a bit of a spot if that came over. Bravo.
>>
>> Have you ever seen the "ghostrider" stuff? There are a bunch of
>> amateurs putting that name on their stuff now to get hits, but the
>> original dude was/is sick. Motorcycle News identified him as Pat
>> Furstenhoff a while back when he broke the world wheelie speed record
>> at 215MPH. 215 is above my personal fastest, and I have trouble
>> imagining it. To do it in a wheelie... *hat off*
>>
>200 (or very close) is more than enough on good pavement when you look
>at the telephone poles next to the road flashing by.
>215 on the salt flats with a really thick road rash suit I might try.
>A wheelie at that speed just proves that I am not the craziest guy on a
>bike.
>The *hat off* might be at this guys' funeral.
>Bill (mellowing now) Baka
No one is going to let a 6o year old burn out geezer on the salt.
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Date: 25 May 2007 01:24:25
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
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In article <im6c53p8gb44aqf1oovflm2hq6gdk74qdp@4ax.com >,
R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@ > wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 21:52:35 GMT, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >DanKMTB@gmail.com wrote:
[motorcycle wheelies]
> >> Have you ever seen the "ghostrider" stuff? There are a bunch of
> >> amateurs putting that name on their stuff now to get hits, but the
> >> original dude was/is sick. Motorcycle News identified him as Pat
> >> Furstenhoff a while back when he broke the world wheelie speed record
> >> at 215MPH. 215 is above my personal fastest, and I have trouble
> >> imagining it. To do it in a wheelie... *hat off*
> >>
> >200 (or very close) is more than enough on good pavement when you look
> >at the telephone poles next to the road flashing by.
> >215 on the salt flats with a really thick road rash suit I might try.
> >A wheelie at that speed just proves that I am not the craziest guy on a
> >bike.
> >The *hat off* might be at this guys' funeral.
> >Bill (mellowing now) Baka
>
> No one is going to let a 6o year old burn out geezer on the salt.
R: of course not. Craig Breedlove was 59 when he crashed the Spirit of
America at around 675 mph.
And of course, he was at the Black Rock desert, not Bonneville.
But you already knew that, and were just being cheerfully sarcastic,
right?
Because I'd hate to think you were just posting this out of cheerless
petulance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Breedlove
Share & Enjoy,
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 25 May 2007 02:47:12
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
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On Fri, 25 May 2007 01:24:25 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca >
wrote:
>In article <im6c53p8gb44aqf1oovflm2hq6gdk74qdp@4ax.com>,
> R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 May 2007 21:52:35 GMT, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> >DanKMTB@gmail.com wrote:
>
>[motorcycle wheelies]
>
>> >> Have you ever seen the "ghostrider" stuff? There are a bunch of
>> >> amateurs putting that name on their stuff now to get hits, but the
>> >> original dude was/is sick. Motorcycle News identified him as Pat
>> >> Furstenhoff a while back when he broke the world wheelie speed record
>> >> at 215MPH. 215 is above my personal fastest, and I have trouble
>> >> imagining it. To do it in a wheelie... *hat off*
>> >>
>> >200 (or very close) is more than enough on good pavement when you look
>> >at the telephone poles next to the road flashing by.
>> >215 on the salt flats with a really thick road rash suit I might try.
>> >A wheelie at that speed just proves that I am not the craziest guy on a
>> >bike.
>> >The *hat off* might be at this guys' funeral.
>> >Bill (mellowing now) Baka
>>
>> No one is going to let a 6o year old burn out geezer on the salt.
>
>R: of course not. Craig Breedlove was 59 when he crashed the Spirit of
>America at around 675 mph.
>
>And of course, he was at the Black Rock desert, not Bonneville.
>
>But you already knew that, and were just being cheerfully sarcastic,
>right?
>
>Because I'd hate to think you were just posting this out of cheerless
>petulance.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Breedlove
>
>Share & Enjoy,
Breedlove was not a geezer nor a burn out or a wannabe.
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Date: 24 May 2007 22:15:34
From: Bill
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
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R Brickston wrote:
> On Fri, 25 May 2007 01:24:25 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> R: of course not. Craig Breedlove was 59 when he crashed the Spirit of
>> America at around 675 mph.
>>
>> And of course, he was at the Black Rock desert, not Bonneville.
>>
>> But you already knew that, and were just being cheerfully sarcastic,
>> right?
>>
>> Because I'd hate to think you were just posting this out of cheerless
>> petulance.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Breedlove
>>
>> Share & Enjoy,
>
> Breedlove was not a geezer nor a burn out or a wannabe.
The only thing keeping me from doing something that 'stupid' in your
book is that I can't afford the money to attempt to get in the record
books. Once you are in the record books it is for all time even if you
kill yourself in the next attempt.
Live, don't cower.
Bill Baka
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Date: 25 May 2007 13:45:50
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
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In article
<Hhu5i.6712$4Y.357@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net >,
Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
> R Brickston wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 May 2007 01:24:25 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> R: of course not. Craig Breedlove was 59 when he crashed the Spirit of
> >> America at around 675 mph.
> >>
> >> And of course, he was at the Black Rock desert, not Bonneville.
> >>
> >> But you already knew that, and were just being cheerfully sarcastic,
> >> right?
> >>
> >> Because I'd hate to think you were just posting this out of cheerless
> >> petulance.
> >>
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Breedlove
> >>
> >> Share & Enjoy,
> >
> > Breedlove was not a geezer nor a burn out or a wannabe.
>
> The only thing keeping me from doing something that 'stupid' in your
> book is that I can't afford the money to attempt to get in the record
> books. Once you are in the record books it is for all time even if you
> kill yourself in the next attempt.
> Live, don't cower.
There are many stupid thing that can be done on a
budget. Posting delusions of competence and inflated
claims on usenet, for instance.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 25 May 2007 16:04:11
From: Bill
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
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Michael Press wrote:
> In article
> <Hhu5i.6712$4Y.357@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net>,
> Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>> The only thing keeping me from doing something that 'stupid' in your
>> book is that I can't afford the money to attempt to get in the record
>> books. Once you are in the record books it is for all time even if you
>> kill yourself in the next attempt.
>> Live, don't cower.
>
> There are many stupid thing that can be done on a
> budget. Posting delusions of competence and inflated
> claims on usenet, for instance.
>
So if you had a sponsor and a chance to live 'forever' in the record
books, you would be too much a coward to accept the challenge?
Why live in a cocoon of safety so you can live and die with no meaning
or impact?
Without men like Chuck Yeager, local to me, the sound barrier might
still be considered 'unbreakable'.
Without men like Neil Armstrong who would have set foot on the moon?
Does that mean I am calling you and Brickston cowards?
I sure am.
Bill Baka
Only the tricycle was inflated, the rest is, for you, mathematically
possible, as I have done the things I have posted, 50 MPH tricycle excepted.
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Date: 26 May 2007 02:49:04
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
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On Fri, 25 May 2007 16:04:11 -0700, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
>Michael Press wrote:
>> In article
>> <Hhu5i.6712$4Y.357@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net>,
>> Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> The only thing keeping me from doing something that 'stupid' in your
>>> book is that I can't afford the money to attempt to get in the record
>>> books. Once you are in the record books it is for all time even if you
>>> kill yourself in the next attempt.
>>> Live, don't cower.
>>
>> There are many stupid thing that can be done on a
>> budget. Posting delusions of competence and inflated
>> claims on usenet, for instance.
>>
>So if you had a sponsor and a chance to live 'forever' in the record
>books, you would be too much a coward to accept the challenge?
>Why live in a cocoon of safety so you can live and die with no meaning
>or impact?
>Without men like Chuck Yeager, local to me, the sound barrier might
>still be considered 'unbreakable'.
>Without men like Neil Armstrong who would have set foot on the moon?
>Does that mean I am calling you and Brickston cowards?
>I sure am.
>Bill Baka
>Only the tricycle was inflated, the rest is, for you, mathematically
>possible, as I have done the things I have posted, 50 MPH tricycle excepted.
Please Billy, you're exposed for what you are: a bullshit artist. And
your episodic tricycle speed run depends on which version you're
telling. IIRC, you've had it at 50, 30, and 25 MPH. You would have
left it at 50 if about 80% of rbm regulars hadn't beat the truth out
of you with simple logic.
Since, according to you, you never lie, how about solving this one:
>Billy sez:
>>>Yep.
>>>He was an ex-Oakland raider quarterback by the name of Dave Jones and
>>>was a pretty good overall Gym teacher but he could not get me to call
>>>"Uncle" so instead he hated me to the point of flunking me, knowing that
>>>I needed his lousy 5 credit class to graduate. That is partly my fault
>>>since I never took any extra credit classes to put my credits over the top.
>>>Bill Baka
> The facts are:
> The only Oakland Raider named Dave Jones played TE in 1992. Further,
> there has never been an Oakland Raider named Jones that played QB.
>http://raiders.com/history/alltime_roster_j.jsp
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Date: 26 May 2007 05:37:30
From: Bill
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
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R Brickston wrote:
> On Fri, 25 May 2007 16:04:11 -0700, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> So if you had a sponsor and a chance to live 'forever' in the record
>> books, you would be too much a coward to accept the challenge?
>> Why live in a cocoon of safety so you can live and die with no meaning
>> or impact?
>> Without men like Chuck Yeager, local to me, the sound barrier might
>> still be considered 'unbreakable'.
>> Without men like Neil Armstrong who would have set foot on the moon?
>> Does that mean I am calling you and Brickston cowards?
>> I sure am.
>> Bill Baka
>> Only the tricycle was inflated, the rest is, for you, mathematically
>> possible, as I have done the things I have posted, 50 MPH tricycle excepted.
>
> Please Billy, you're exposed for what you are: a bullshit artist. And
> your episodic tricycle speed run depends on which version you're
> telling. IIRC, you've had it at 50, 30, and 25 MPH. You would have
> left it at 50 if about 80% of rbm regulars hadn't beat the truth out
> of you with simple logic.
That one was a troll on a slow day. Since I got a car to roll at 25 MPH
from a 1 MPH start I figure the trike might have made 21-23 MPH.
>
> Since, according to you, you never lie, how about solving this one:
>
>> Billy sez:
>
>>>> Yep.
>>>> He was an ex-Oakland raider quarterback by the name of Dave Jones and
>>>> was a pretty good overall Gym teacher but he could not get me to call
>>>> "Uncle" so instead he hated me to the point of flunking me, knowing that
>>>> I needed his lousy 5 credit class to graduate. That is partly my fault
>>>> since I never took any extra credit classes to put my credits over the top.
>>>> Bill Baka
>
>> The facts are:
>
>> The only Oakland Raider named Dave Jones played TE in 1992. Further,
>> there has never been an Oakland Raider named Jones that played QB.
>
>> http://raiders.com/history/alltime_roster_j.jsp
Dimwit,
The facts are my coach was named Dave Jones and claimed to be an
ex-quarterback for the Raiders. Maybe it was the 49'ers.
I didn't follow football then and don't now.
Campbell High school, Campbell, Ca. 1965-1966 season.
He couldn't break me, so he flunked me.
Big deal, I went straight to college, making me a college educated non
high school graduate. I sure as shit wasn't going to blow my summer
taking a make up class for P.E.
Bill Baka
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Date: 26 May 2007 11:04:29
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 05:37:30 GMT, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
>R Brickston wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 May 2007 16:04:11 -0700, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> So if you had a sponsor and a chance to live 'forever' in the record
>>> books, you would be too much a coward to accept the challenge?
>>> Why live in a cocoon of safety so you can live and die with no meaning
>>> or impact?
>>> Without men like Chuck Yeager, local to me, the sound barrier might
>>> still be considered 'unbreakable'.
>>> Without men like Neil Armstrong who would have set foot on the moon?
>>> Does that mean I am calling you and Brickston cowards?
>>> I sure am.
>>> Bill Baka
>>> Only the tricycle was inflated, the rest is, for you, mathematically
>>> possible, as I have done the things I have posted, 50 MPH tricycle excepted.
>>
>> Please Billy, you're exposed for what you are: a bullshit artist. And
>> your episodic tricycle speed run depends on which version you're
>> telling. IIRC, you've had it at 50, 30, and 25 MPH. You would have
>> left it at 50 if about 80% of rbm regulars hadn't beat the truth out
>> of you with simple logic.
>
>That one was a troll on a slow day. Since I got a car to roll at 25 MPH
>from a 1 MPH start I figure the trike might have made 21-23 MPH.
>>
>> Since, according to you, you never lie, how about solving this one:
>>
>>> Billy sez:
>>
>>>>> Yep.
>>>>> He was an ex-Oakland raider quarterback by the name of Dave Jones and
>>>>> was a pretty good overall Gym teacher but he could not get me to call
>>>>> "Uncle" so instead he hated me to the point of flunking me, knowing that
>>>>> I needed his lousy 5 credit class to graduate. That is partly my fault
>>>>> since I never took any extra credit classes to put my credits over the top.
>>>>> Bill Baka
>>
>>> The facts are:
>>
>>> The only Oakland Raider named Dave Jones played TE in 1992. Further,
>>> there has never been an Oakland Raider named Jones that played QB.
>>
>>> http://raiders.com/history/alltime_roster_j.jsp
>
>Dimwit,
>The facts are my coach was named Dave Jones and claimed to be an
>ex-quarterback for the Raiders. Maybe it was the 49'ers.
>I didn't follow football then and don't now.
>Campbell High school, Campbell, Ca. 1965-1966 season.
>He couldn't break me, so he flunked me.
>Big deal, I went straight to college, making me a college educated non
>high school graduate. I sure as shit wasn't going to blow my summer
>taking a make up class for P.E.
>Bill Baka
You stated "He was an ex-Oakland raider quarterback." In any event,
Docktor Baka, *someone* in your high school must have followed Raider
or 49'er football and ratted the guy out *OR* it's another one of your
many fabrications. I'm going with the latter.
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Date: 25 May 2007 05:41:53
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 22:15:34 -0700, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
>R Brickston wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 May 2007 01:24:25 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> R: of course not. Craig Breedlove was 59 when he crashed the Spirit of
>>> America at around 675 mph.
>>>
>>> And of course, he was at the Black Rock desert, not Bonneville.
>>>
>>> But you already knew that, and were just being cheerfully sarcastic,
>>> right?
>>>
>>> Because I'd hate to think you were just posting this out of cheerless
>>> petulance.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Breedlove
>>>
>>> Share & Enjoy,
>>
>> Breedlove was not a geezer nor a burn out or a wannabe.
>
>The only thing keeping me from doing something that 'stupid' in your
>book is that I can't afford the money to attempt to get in the record
>books. Once you are in the record books it is for all time even if you
>kill yourself in the next attempt.
>Live, don't cower.
>Bill Baka
Live in reality, don't make it up.
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Date: 25 May 2007 06:32:22
From: Bill
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
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R Brickston wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 22:15:34 -0700, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> R Brickston wrote:
>>> On Fri, 25 May 2007 01:24:25 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> R: of course not. Craig Breedlove was 59 when he crashed the Spirit of
>>>> America at around 675 mph.
>>>>
>>>> And of course, he was at the Black Rock desert, not Bonneville.
>>>>
>>>> But you already knew that, and were just being cheerfully sarcastic,
>>>> right?
>>>>
>>>> Because I'd hate to think you were just posting this out of cheerless
>>>> petulance.
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Breedlove
>>>>
>>>> Share & Enjoy,
>>> Breedlove was not a geezer nor a burn out or a wannabe.
>> The only thing keeping me from doing something that 'stupid' in your
>> book is that I can't afford the money to attempt to get in the record
>> books. Once you are in the record books it is for all time even if you
>> kill yourself in the next attempt.
>> Live, don't cower.
>> Bill Baka
>
> Live in reality, don't make it up.
My reality of tall but real tales was from walking to about age 30 when
I got married.
Tricycle excepted.
I still get some hairy experiences with the bike but it doesn't have
that 120+HP under it anymore.
I am thinking of buying a Harley/Buell so I am not without the urge.
I just want to buy American. Wait till China come out with motorcycles.
Bill Baka
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Date: 25 May 2007 09:56:54
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
|
On Fri, 25 May 2007 06:32:22 GMT, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
>R Brickston wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 May 2007 22:15:34 -0700, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> R Brickston wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 25 May 2007 01:24:25 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> R: of course not. Craig Breedlove was 59 when he crashed the Spirit of
>>>>> America at around 675 mph.
>>>>>
>>>>> And of course, he was at the Black Rock desert, not Bonneville.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you already knew that, and were just being cheerfully sarcastic,
>>>>> right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because I'd hate to think you were just posting this out of cheerless
>>>>> petulance.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Breedlove
>>>>>
>>>>> Share & Enjoy,
>>>> Breedlove was not a geezer nor a burn out or a wannabe.
>>> The only thing keeping me from doing something that 'stupid' in your
>>> book is that I can't afford the money to attempt to get in the record
>>> books. Once you are in the record books it is for all time even if you
>>> kill yourself in the next attempt.
>>> Live, don't cower.
>>> Bill Baka
>>
>> Live in reality, don't make it up.
>My reality of tall but real tales was from walking to about age 30 when
>I got married.
>Tricycle excepted.
>I still get some hairy experiences with the bike but it doesn't have
>that 120+HP under it anymore.
>I am thinking of buying a Harley/Buell so I am not without the urge.
>I just want to buy American. Wait till China come out with motorcycles.
>Bill Baka
Could you please personalize your responses? I'm on the edge of my
seat.
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Date: 24 May 2007 16:13:40
From: Bill
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
|
R Brickston wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 21:52:35 GMT, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 200 (or very close) is more than enough on good pavement when you look
>> at the telephone poles next to the road flashing by.
>> 215 on the salt flats with a really thick road rash suit I might try.
>> A wheelie at that speed just proves that I am not the craziest guy on a
>> bike.
>> The *hat off* might be at this guys' funeral.
>> Bill (mellowing now) Baka
>
> No one is going to let a 6o year old burn out geezer on the salt.
I'm 58.6 but hardly a burnt out geezer. Give me a jet car and I would
try for the 1,000 MPH mark. You only live once and if you pass up on
life you don't get a do-over.
Sissy!!!
Bill Baka
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Date: 24 May 2007 04:23:34
From: DanKMTB@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
|
On May 23, 5:25 pm, R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@ > wrote:
> On 23 May 2007 10:54:21 -0700, "DanK...@gmail.com" <DanK...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Bill, I enjoy your tales, even when they come with a little
> >exaggeration. Keep them coming.
>
> >Dan
>
> I'm sure you will have every stellar episode of the "life and times of
> Bill Baka" reiterated 25 times -each- per month.
We'll see. If you continue to start threads about him in rbT I see no
reason he shouldn't. If someone started a thread about fun and crazy
things I'd done in the past I might find myself inclined to jump in
there as well. As of now he's not the one starting these threads in a
tech group.
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Date: 25 May 2007 01:08:31
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
|
In article
<1180005814.246674.112520@q66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >,
"DanKMTB@gmail.com" <DanKMTB@gmail.com > wrote:
> On May 23, 5:25 pm, R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote:
> > On 23 May 2007 10:54:21 -0700, "DanK...@gmail.com" <DanK...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Bill, I enjoy your tales, even when they come with a little
> > >exaggeration. Keep them coming.
> >
> > >Dan
> >
> > I'm sure you will have every stellar episode of the "life and times of
> > Bill Baka" reiterated 25 times -each- per month.
>
> We'll see. If you continue to start threads about him in rbT I see no
> reason he shouldn't. If someone started a thread about fun and crazy
> things I'd done in the past I might find myself inclined to jump in
> there as well. As of now he's not the one starting these threads in a
> tech group.
Beware the wrath of Baka and his cohort.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 24 May 2007 22:19:08
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
|
Michael Press wrote:
> In article
> <1180005814.246674.112520@q66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> "DanKMTB@gmail.com" <DanKMTB@gmail.com> wrote: As of now he's not the one starting these threads in a
>> tech group.
>
> Beware the wrath of Baka and his cohort.
>
I really don't even intend to reply to Brickston anymore. Bill Sorni is
being more mellow on this group so I am not arguing with him.
As far as Chemistry equations goes, I have been in all day with a killer
headache and at this point thinking hurts.
Maybe tomorrow.
Bill Baka
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Date: 25 May 2007 05:42:37
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
|
On Thu, 24 May 2007 22:19:08 -0700, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
>Michael Press wrote:
>> In article
>> <1180005814.246674.112520@q66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>> "DanKMTB@gmail.com" <DanKMTB@gmail.com> wrote: As of now he's not the one starting these threads in a
>>> tech group.
>>
>> Beware the wrath of Baka and his cohort.
>>
>I really don't even intend to reply to Brickston anymore. Bill Sorni is
>being more mellow on this group so I am not arguing with him.
>As far as Chemistry equations goes, I have been in all day with a killer
>headache and at this point thinking hurts.
>Maybe tomorrow.
>Bill Baka
Whooosh...
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Date: 24 May 2007 16:18:37
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
|
DanKMTB@gmail.com wrote:
> On May 23, 5:25 pm, R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote:
> We'll see. If you continue to start threads about him in rbT I see no
> reason he shouldn't. If someone started a thread about fun and crazy
> things I'd done in the past I might find myself inclined to jump in
> there as well. As of now he's not the one starting these threads in a
> tech group.
>
A very civil "Thank you" from me.
Bill Baka
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Date: 24 May 2007 16:33:09
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
|
On 24 May 2007 04:23:34 -0700, "DanKMTB@gmail.com" <DanKMTB@gmail.com >
wrote:
>On May 23, 5:25 pm, R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote:
>> On 23 May 2007 10:54:21 -0700, "DanK...@gmail.com" <DanK...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Bill, I enjoy your tales, even when they come with a little
>> >exaggeration. Keep them coming.
>>
>> >Dan
>>
>> I'm sure you will have every stellar episode of the "life and times of
>> Bill Baka" reiterated 25 times -each- per month.
>
>We'll see. If you continue to start threads about him in rbT I see no
>reason he shouldn't. If someone started a thread about fun and crazy
>things I'd done in the past I might find myself inclined to jump in
>there as well. As of now he's not the one starting these threads in a
>tech group.
Thanks for confirmation that Baka did not start the threads that I
started. When Baka replies to these two threads it will be the only
time he is not hijacking, off topic or self-aggrandizing.
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Date: 24 May 2007 00:36:30
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
|
R Brickston wrote:
> I rode a tricycle at nearly 50 mph when I was 4 or 5 years old
-snip-
The guy who delivers the free weekly paper around here holds the world
record for longest handstand on a skateboard, something like 4 miles.
You and he should spend an evening together recounting your amazing efforts.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 23 May 2007 21:41:40
From: Espressopithecus (Java Man)
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
|
In article <0hb753hev2pnuq6oii1arh6dfivmgl8ldt@4ax.com >, R Brickston
<rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@ > says...
snipped
Thus far, I've missed his posts, but this collaboration has made me
eager to read them! Thanks!
Java
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Date: 24 May 2007 02:29:39
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
|
Espressopithecus (Java Man) wrote:
> In article <0hb753hev2pnuq6oii1arh6dfivmgl8ldt@4ax.com>, R Brickston
> <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> says...
>
> snipped
>
> Thus far, I've missed his posts, but this collaboration has made me
> eager to read them! Thanks!
>
> Java
He was a thorn in my side on R.B.misc, too.
I'm trying to ignore him but he keeps it up.
I grew up in the country, or what used to be, outside of Chicago and I
am not making up 58+ years of fairy tales. My father was amazed to find
me alive after some of the stuff my mother told him about my days
activities.
I have lived without regard to danger, so I do have some experiences
that are pretty outlandish. The only reason I am here to share them is
because I never managed to really permanently kill myself.
To live in fear is to not live, but only to exist.
Bill Baka
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Date: 23 May 2007 22:25:31
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
|
On Wed, 23 May 2007 21:41:40 GMT, Espressopithecus (Java Man)
<rickk@letterectomyTELUS.net > wrote:
>In article <0hb753hev2pnuq6oii1arh6dfivmgl8ldt@4ax.com>, R Brickston
><rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> says...
>
>snipped
>
>Thus far, I've missed his posts, but this collaboration has made me
>eager to read them! Thanks!
>
>Java
See the posting of Part II which could be titled "The Funniest of Bill
Baka." Selected quips taken out of context is a riot. That said, in
context of his full hijacked-off-on-a-tangent postings... well, you be
the judge.
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Date: 24 May 2007 02:31:13
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
|
R Brickston wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 21:41:40 GMT, Espressopithecus (Java Man)
> <rickk@letterectomyTELUS.net> wrote:
>
>> In article <0hb753hev2pnuq6oii1arh6dfivmgl8ldt@4ax.com>, R Brickston
>> <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> says...
>>
>> snipped
>>
>> Thus far, I've missed his posts, but this collaboration has made me
>> eager to read them! Thanks!
>>
>> Java
>
> See the posting of Part II which could be titled "The Funniest of Bill
> Baka." Selected quips taken out of context is a riot. That said, in
> context of his full hijacked-off-on-a-tangent postings... well, you be
> the judge.
Do you have a life or is collecting 5 years of my quotes, out of
context, your life's mission.
Pathetic.
Bill (been there, done that) Baka
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Date: 22 May 2007 23:46:42
From:
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
|
On May 22, 9:05 pm, R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@ > wrote:
[snip]
> a race prepped 1973 Kawasaki 750... Wheelied that one once at 120+
[snip]
Dear RJ,
Ignoring the rest, overpowered motorcycles really can do ridiculous
things . . .
http://www.videovat.com/videos/485/motorcycle-wheelie.aspx
http://www.superstreetbike.com/stuntcompetitions/030_0312_freestyle_stuntlife_shootout/photo_13.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb_rzeOx3PQ&NR=1
And this is just a damned motor scooter:
http://www.scootersales.com.au/Forums/ViewtheForums/tabid/4039/view/topic/postid/9145/forumid/22/tpage/1/Default.aspx
High-speed wheelies are actually easier than low-speed wheelies (as
long as you get past sheer terror):
"Since the introduction of the GSX-R750, many motorcycle enthusiasts
have learned that a threshold phenomenon exists with high power and
low weight sportbikes. Wind resistance becomes quite large at freeway
speeds, and any motorcycle able to lift the front tire in the air at
65mph and above can maintain the wheelie for miles without the use of
a rear brake or any advanced skills."
[Yeah, right, no advanced skills needed--that's why they keep selling
anti-tipover bars to novices.]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheelie#Motorcycle_wheelie
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 23 May 2007 18:05:16
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
|
In article
<1179902802.893100.291570@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com >,
carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> On May 22, 9:05 pm, R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > a race prepped 1973 Kawasaki 750... Wheelied that one once at 120+
>
> [snip]
>
> Dear RJ,
>
> Ignoring the rest, overpowered motorcycles really can do ridiculous
> things . . .
>
> http://www.videovat.com/videos/485/motorcycle-wheelie.aspx
>
> http://www.superstreetbike.com/stuntcompetitions/030_0312_freestyle_stuntlife_shootout/photo_13.html
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb_rzeOx3PQ&NR=1
>
> And this is just a damned motor scooter:
>
> http://www.scootersales.com.au/Forums/ViewtheForums/tabid/4039/view/topic/postid/9145/forumid/22/tpage/1/Default.aspx
>
> High-speed wheelies are actually easier than low-speed wheelies (as
> long as you get past sheer terror):
>
> "Since the introduction of the GSX-R750, many motorcycle enthusiasts
> have learned that a threshold phenomenon exists with high power and
> low weight sportbikes. Wind resistance becomes quite large at freeway
> speeds, and any motorcycle able to lift the front tire in the air at
> 65mph and above can maintain the wheelie for miles without the use of
> a rear brake or any advanced skills."
I expect the high wind force to power a positive
feedback loop and blow the motorcycle all the way over,
the way hydroplane boats go skittering end over end
like a paper plate once the wind gets underneath. How
does a rider maintain control?
>
> [Yeah, right, no advanced skills needed--that's why they keep selling
> anti-tipover bars to novices.]
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheelie#Motorcycle_wheelie
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Fogel
--
Michael Press
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Date: 24 May 2007 01:46:09
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
|
In article <rubrum-E1D18C.11051623052007@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com >,
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net > wrote:
> In article
> <1179902802.893100.291570@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
>
> > On May 22, 9:05 pm, R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > a race prepped 1973 Kawasaki 750... Wheelied that one once at 120+
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > Dear RJ,
> >
> > Ignoring the rest, overpowered motorcycles really can do ridiculous
> > things . . .
> >
> > http://www.videovat.com/videos/485/motorcycle-wheelie.aspx
> >
> > http://www.superstreetbike.com/stuntcompetitions/030_0312_freestyle_stuntlif
> > e_shootout/photo_13.html
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb_rzeOx3PQ&NR=1
> >
> > And this is just a damned motor scooter:
> >
> > http://www.scootersales.com.au/Forums/ViewtheForums/tabid/4039/view/topic/po
> > stid/9145/forumid/22/tpage/1/Default.aspx
> >
> > High-speed wheelies are actually easier than low-speed wheelies (as
> > long as you get past sheer terror):
> >
> > "Since the introduction of the GSX-R750, many motorcycle enthusiasts
> > have learned that a threshold phenomenon exists with high power and
> > low weight sportbikes. Wind resistance becomes quite large at freeway
> > speeds, and any motorcycle able to lift the front tire in the air at
> > 65mph and above can maintain the wheelie for miles without the use of
> > a rear brake or any advanced skills."
>
> I expect the high wind force to power a positive
> feedback loop and blow the motorcycle all the way over,
> the way hydroplane boats go skittering end over end
> like a paper plate once the wind gets underneath. How
> does a rider maintain control?
Well, there's a balance, but it's probably lower than you think.
Motorcycles are not hydroplanes, aerodynamically speaking.
Mr. V. Rossi demonstrates the possibility of a very high-speed wheelie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRLpX71ZRz4
I propose that physics assumptions should follow the emperical evidence.
Also, I was actually looking for a fairly famous clip wherein Rossi (or
some other GP champ?) does a highly epic post-race wheelie in which the
rider almost but not quite rolls the bike over backwards.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 24 May 2007 23:39:38
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
|
In article <rcousine-8782D6.18460223052007@news.telus.net >,
Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote:
> In article <rubrum-E1D18C.11051623052007@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,
> Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <1179902802.893100.291570@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> > carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> >
> > > On May 22, 9:05 pm, R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote:
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > > a race prepped 1973 Kawasaki 750... Wheelied that one once at 120+
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > Dear RJ,
> > >
> > > Ignoring the rest, overpowered motorcycles really can do ridiculous
> > > things . . .
> > >
> > > http://www.videovat.com/videos/485/motorcycle-wheelie.aspx
> > >
> > > http://www.superstreetbike.com/stuntcompetitions/030_0312_freestyle_stuntlif
> > > e_shootout/photo_13.html
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb_rzeOx3PQ&NR=1
> > >
> > > And this is just a damned motor scooter:
> > >
> > > http://www.scootersales.com.au/Forums/ViewtheForums/tabid/4039/view/topic/po
> > > stid/9145/forumid/22/tpage/1/Default.aspx
> > >
> > > High-speed wheelies are actually easier than low-speed wheelies (as
> > > long as you get past sheer terror):
> > >
> > > "Since the introduction of the GSX-R750, many motorcycle enthusiasts
> > > have learned that a threshold phenomenon exists with high power and
> > > low weight sportbikes. Wind resistance becomes quite large at freeway
> > > speeds, and any motorcycle able to lift the front tire in the air at
> > > 65mph and above can maintain the wheelie for miles without the use of
> > > a rear brake or any advanced skills."
> >
> > I expect the high wind force to power a positive
> > feedback loop and blow the motorcycle all the way over,
> > the way hydroplane boats go skittering end over end
> > like a paper plate once the wind gets underneath. How
> > does a rider maintain control?
>
> Well, there's a balance, but it's probably lower than you think.
> Motorcycles are not hydroplanes, aerodynamically speaking.
>
> Mr. V. Rossi demonstrates the possibility of a very high-speed wheelie:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRLpX71ZRz4
>
> I propose that physics assumptions should follow the emperical evidence.
>
> Also, I was actually looking for a fairly famous clip wherein Rossi (or
> some other GP champ?) does a highly epic post-race wheelie in which the
> rider almost but not quite rolls the bike over backwards.
I am not saying it cannot be done. I have seen it. My question remains.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 23 May 2007 22:40:10
From: Carl Sundquist
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
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"Ryan Cousineau" <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote in message
news:rcousine-8782D6.18460223052007@news.telus.net...
>
> Well, there's a balance, but it's probably lower than you think.
> Motorcycles are not hydroplanes, aerodynamically speaking.
>
> Mr. V. Rossi demonstrates the possibility of a very high-speed wheelie:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRLpX71ZRz4
>
> I propose that physics assumptions should follow the emperical evidence.
>
> Also, I was actually looking for a fairly famous clip wherein Rossi (or
> some other GP champ?) does a highly epic post-race wheelie in which the
> rider almost but not quite rolls the bike over backwards.
You're thinking of Biaggi after his '98 win at Brno.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzAZgB_jOGY
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Date: 24 May 2007 02:09:18
From: Bill
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
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Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> In article <rubrum-E1D18C.11051623052007@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,
> Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> I expect the high wind force to power a positive
>> feedback loop and blow the motorcycle all the way over,
>> the way hydroplane boats go skittering end over end
>> like a paper plate once the wind gets underneath. How
>> does a rider maintain control?
Very carefully over 100 MPH. Sitting upright at about 150 will blow you
back so hard that your death grip on the handlebars can pull the bike
up. I tried it once, stupidly, I admit, and could turn the front wheel
with no effect on the direction of the bike. Once I got my head back
between the tach and speedometer I got steering back.
>
> Well, there's a balance, but it's probably lower than you think.
> Motorcycles are not hydroplanes, aerodynamically speaking.
>
> Mr. V. Rossi demonstrates the possibility of a very high-speed wheelie:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRLpX71ZRz4
>
> I propose that physics assumptions should follow the emperical evidence.
>
> Also, I was actually looking for a fairly famous clip wherein Rossi (or
> some other GP champ?) does a highly epic post-race wheelie in which the
> rider almost but not quite rolls the bike over backwards.
>
If he got the front wheel more than a foot off the ground at any speed
over 150 he would have had to lock the rear brake to get back down.
There are limits to balance bravery, showmanship, and Physics.
Going down at that speed on a paved track would almost certainly mean
painful road rash even through a race suit.
You can't beat Physics.
Bill Baka
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Date: 24 May 2007 05:03:38
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
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In article <it65i.9833$rO7.1656@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net >,
Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > In article <rubrum-E1D18C.11051623052007@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,
> > Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >> I expect the high wind force to power a positive
> >> feedback loop and blow the motorcycle all the way over,
> >> the way hydroplane boats go skittering end over end
> >> like a paper plate once the wind gets underneath. How
> >> does a rider maintain control?
>
> Very carefully over 100 MPH. Sitting upright at about 150 will blow you
> back so hard that your death grip on the handlebars can pull the bike
> up. I tried it once, stupidly, I admit, and could turn the front wheel
> with no effect on the direction of the bike. Once I got my head back
> between the tach and speedometer I got steering back.
> >
> > Well, there's a balance, but it's probably lower than you think.
> > Motorcycles are not hydroplanes, aerodynamically speaking.
> >
> > Mr. V. Rossi demonstrates the possibility of a very high-speed wheelie:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRLpX71ZRz4
> >
> > I propose that physics assumptions should follow the emperical evidence.
> >
> > Also, I was actually looking for a fairly famous clip wherein Rossi (or
> > some other GP champ?) does a highly epic post-race wheelie in which the
> > rider almost but not quite rolls the bike over backwards.
> >
> If he got the front wheel more than a foot off the ground at any speed
> over 150 he would have had to lock the rear brake to get back down.
> There are limits to balance bravery, showmanship, and Physics.
> Going down at that speed on a paved track would almost certainly mean
> painful road rash even through a race suit.
> You can't beat Physics.
Mr. Sundquist found the clip I was thinking of. It was Max Biaggi, the
second-craziest Italian motorcycle racer of the end of the GP500 era:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzAZgB_jOGY
He's not going particularly fast (surely less than 100 mph), but he sure
does test the limits of how high a bike's nose can be and not be on its
way to a location somewhere behind the rear wheel. I do not commend it
to any other rider to attempt to find a further point.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 23 May 2007 19:00:46
From: Bill
Subject: Re: stupid motorcycle tricks
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Michael Press wrote:
> In article
> <1179902802.893100.291570@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
>
>> On May 22, 9:05 pm, R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> a race prepped 1973 Kawasaki 750... Wheelied that one once at 120+
>> [snip]
>>
>> Dear RJ,
>>
>> Ignoring the rest, overpowered motorcycles really can do ridiculous
>> things . . .
>>
>> http://www.videovat.com/videos/485/motorcycle-wheelie.aspx
>>
>> http://www.superstreetbike.com/stuntcompetitions/030_0312_freestyle_stuntlife_shootout/photo_13.html
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb_rzeOx3PQ&NR=1
>>
>> And this is just a damned motor scooter:
>>
>> http://www.scootersales.com.au/Forums/ViewtheForums/tabid/4039/view/topic/postid/9145/forumid/22/tpage/1/Default.aspx
>>
>> High-speed wheelies are actually easier than low-speed wheelies (as
>> long as you get past sheer terror):
That part is right on the money. Passing at 65 was a little hairy, and
carrying the front wheel about a foot off the ground at 125+ was a
little un-nerving, but something to talk about when me and passenger got
back to the party.
Wheelies from a stop light were sometimes unintentional due to the 2
stroke power curve and the bikes' tendency to wheelie anyway. One friend
tried to lean over the handlebars and pop the clutch to burn rubber and
it took him up. Even though it was my bike we all had tears in our eyes
from watching him hanging from the now vertical bike and dancing along
to try to keep up. He finally let the bike go and it landed with no
damage, except his macho ego was blown all to hell and back.
>>
>> "Since the introduction of the GSX-R750, many motorcycle enthusiasts
>> have learned that a threshold phenomenon exists with high power and
>> low weight sportbikes. Wind resistance becomes quite large at freeway
>> speeds, and any motorcycle able to lift the front tire in the air at
>> 65mph and above can maintain the wheelie for miles without the use of
>> a rear brake or any advanced skills."
>
> I expect the high wind force to power a positive
> feedback loop and blow the motorcycle all the way over,
> the way hydroplane boats go skittering end over end
> like a paper plate once the wind gets underneath. How
> does a rider maintain control?
Luck, skill, and more luck.
>
>> [Yeah, right, no advanced skills needed--that's why they keep selling
>> anti-tipover bars to novices.]
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheelie#Motorcycle_wheelie
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Carl Fogel
>
I have only seen anti-wheelie bars on drag bikes like mine that were
doing high 9 seconds and 135-140 MPH quarter miles.
It would be too embarrassing at my level to ask for 'training' wheels.
Bill Baka
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Date: 23 May 2007 10:00:40
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
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carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> On May 22, 9:05 pm, R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> a race prepped 1973 Kawasaki 750... Wheelied that one once at 120+
>
> [snip]
>
> Dear RJ,
>
> Ignoring the rest, overpowered motorcycles really can do ridiculous
> things . . .
>
> http://www.videovat.com/videos/485/motorcycle-wheelie.aspx
>
> http://www.superstreetbike.com/stuntcompetitions/030_0312_freestyle_stuntlife_shootout/photo_13.html
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb_rzeOx3PQ&NR=1
>
> And this is just a damned motor scooter:
>
> http://www.scootersales.com.au/Forums/ViewtheForums/tabid/4039/view/topic/postid/9145/forumid/22/tpage/1/Default.aspx
>
> High-speed wheelies are actually easier than low-speed wheelies (as
> long as you get past sheer terror):
Carl,
I can attest to that even at 35 MPH (initially) doing a 180 degree
uphill loop around a park. A big and very mean, nasty dog had decided to
run across the park and take a sample of our legs, me and girlfriend.
I gave it gas and with her on the back we did a balancing act for the
entire 180 degrees of the turn at about 40 MPH. It wasn't that fast, but
fear for my girlfriend and my leg made that wheelie really memorable.
I don't know if that's supposed to be possible, but I did it, maybe just
before video cameras were all over.
>
> "Since the introduction of the GSX-R750, many motorcycle enthusiasts
> have learned that a threshold phenomenon exists with high power and
> low weight sportbikes. Wind resistance becomes quite large at freeway
> speeds, and any motorcycle able to lift the front tire in the air at
> 65mph and above can maintain the wheelie for miles without the use of
> a rear brake or any advanced skills."
>
> [Yeah, right, no advanced skills needed--that's why they keep selling
> anti-tipover bars to novices.]
One more I can agree on. A wheelie at low speed is easy in first gear.
A wheelie at 65 MPH and maybe with a female friend on the back is a lot
harder to do, so it only got done a few times. Mad girlfriend, too.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheelie#Motorcycle_wheelie
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Fogel
>
Happy 2 wheel riding,
Bill Baka
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Date: 22 May 2007 23:29:04
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
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R Brickston wrote:
> I rode a tricycle at nearly 50 mph when I was 4 or 5 years old down a
> hill and got brought home by the cops in like 1952
50 to a 4 year old translates to 25 as verified by me coasting downhill
in a car in 1993.
>
> I can build a bomb from kitchen cleaning chemicals or even make nerve
> gas without even having to think too much. Phosgene is too easy.
Dead serious. It can be done.
>
> my hearing way beyond that of the normal 56 year old.
I avoided overly loud disco's which have ruined my contemporaries hearing.
>
> 160+ MPH with my Mustang, once racing a CHP at his request
Did happen in 1988. I was floored that he asked, and he was floored that
I beat him.
>
> and the one time of way over 160 on a motorcycle. I did get off and
> kiss the ground after that one.
1973(1974?) Kawasaki 750CC 2 stroke H2SR modified race bike. 11 miles of
straight 1% downhill, 160 MPH pegged speedometer (peg at about 170) and
a frustrated CHP chasing me. I gained about 1,000 RPM AFTER pegging the
speedometer, so do the math. It was scary fast.
>
> I used to pass cars on the freeway at 65+ while doing a wheelie just
> for the looks on their faces
Same bike, throttle wheelie, no clutch popping needed.
>
> a race prepped 1973 Kawasaki 750... Wheelied that one once at 120+
Same bike again with a passenger pinned to the 'Sissie bar'. He kissed
the ground after that ride.
>
> I once pegged a 160 MPH speedometer, but only once.
Same bike, see above. Check to see if the CHP has a record of the one
that got away between highway 395 and the town of Mojave (I think), back
in the 1973-74 time period. If the cops keep records that long then it
can be verified.
>
> I actually have to agree with you this time.
>
> am very safe and confident and have been riding since 1951. My first
> road trip was in 1953 when I took my trike out on the highway to see
> haw fast I could go down a big hill. About 35, feet off pedals, and
> having a blast. At the bottom a local cop picked me up and took me
> back home, saying I was the youngest rider he had ever seen on the
> road. 4.5 years old.
Like I said, a 4-5 year old can overestimate the speed. The cop picking
me up may be on the books, maybe not.
>
> hat was basically the point since I grew up in Chicago and couldn't
> find hills until I rode North to the Wisconsin border.
>
> That's insane. 50 MPH downhill on pavement is my record and I am
> positively not looking to break that on the side of a mountain.
I just did that again last week on a descend, so what's the point?
A 50 MPH downhill coast is easy, you just can't pedal that fast.
>
> There will be no convincing people of what I have done since there
> were no witnesses other than myself. The trike speed was purely a
> provocation, the motorcycle getting close to 200 MPH was not, and the
> Mustang I had was taken past 160 by both me and my wife.
If my wife liked to play with computers she would back me up, but she's
watching "Dancing with the stars.". She had the Mustang topped out, too.
She also rode with me on the back of said bike. Wifey used to stand up
on the seat at 60 MPH, so maybe we both have something in common.
>
> he bike had a 160 MPH speedo which pegged at about 170, after which
> the tach continued to gain from that point, about 8,000 RPM to nearly
> 9,000.
Duh, same bike, same blast losing the CHP.
>
> I used to be a REAL biker when I rode a motorcycle and rode with the
> gang types on Harleys.
Been there, done that, gave up on them to save my sanity.
Too many parties turned into fights.
They always ragged on me for riding a "Rice burner".
>
> the motorcycle getting close to 200 MPH
>
> Anyway, my need for speed pretty much went away after that, and I have
> kept it under 140 ever since, and that was only once in 1990.
On a Kawasaki 650cc four stroke. My wife beat me by 2 MPH by getting it
up to 142MPH.
>
> I electrocuted myself once when I was maybe 12, climbing a tree and
> touching a 12,000 volt wire, then getting a jump start hitting the
> ground flat on my back
That did happen, leaving a burn hole in my finger where the current
went. Lights out and I woke up on the ground wondering WTF just happened.
>
> Doing 130MPH on a vacant road is a lot safer than lane splitting in a
> traffic jam, and no I did not mean to mislead people that I pedaled a
> bicycle that fast.
That's how I used to commute to work in San Jose at 5:30 A.M. on the
freeway before all the traffic hit. 1976.
>
> At one point I dreamed of getting my hands on a surplus F-104 to feed
> my need for speed but the Air Force is kind of tight with surplus
> supersonic jets.
True desire, and a P-51 Mustang was on my wish list but I don't have the
pre-requisite $$$$million$$$ +++ for either one. I love flying.
>
> I'm well above MENSA
True, but a moot point since I have no desire to join, unless it would
be to rub asshole Brickston's nose in it.
>
> Bowling 229, wifes bowling 289. 1966 Chrysler Newport with 1968 440
> Police engine, about 152
Want a picture? I'm restoring it, which is a major job.
>
> I have interests in sooo many subjects ranging from sub-atomic to
> trans-universal that it is hard to focus on just one.
True too. Finding out how things work is a never ending interest.
I claim dibs on Brickstone's brain to see what his malfunction is.
>
> In person I am much more sociable than on this group
Too sociable sometimes, so my ride average speed goes down when I meet
people and talk with them. Brickstone would be the exception.
>
> I am just tired of self proclaimed experts who don't actually know
> something (or have been taught the wrong something) trying to rag on
> everything I say about just about anything.
I'm referring to the idiot that is trying to defame me.
>
> My usual occupation is analog electronic design engineer, test
> equipment specialist, motion control and stability, programmer when
> needed, and much more when called upon.
All of the above, plus the company electrician at some companies.
Got drafted to fix the industrial A/C on the roof once, changed a fried
3 phase motor for a larger one and made many happy and cooled off
friends at work that day.
>
> My interests, as stated at the beginning, are hugely varied, but
> almost all related to absolute sciences, whether it be math, physics,
> chemistry, or so many more. Magazine subscriptions run the gamut from
> the obvious electronics, to NASA Tech Briefs, Modern Drug
> Discovery/Design, Genomics and Proteomics, and whatever I can get my
> hands on, about 30 in all. I would clog the bandwidth, again, if I
> tried to list them all. Riding gives me the opportunity to interact
> with and observe both nature and new people at random.
Listing myself as "Baka Engineering Services" gets me a lot of
subscriptions to professional magazines and a lot of professional event
invitations. The magazines are real, as are my subscriptions so I do a
lot of high level reading and when my brain is fried I can grab my bike
and ride to refresh and absorb.
>
> In person I am much more sociable than on this group, and have stopped
> to help a stranded 'motorist', comforted an injured child while
> calling for help on my cell phone, and more often than not, just stop
> and talk with strangers I meet on the road.
My granddaughter has a lot of friends who call me "Grandpa" by default
and when they see me it becomes a group ride. That's what I get for
having kids. Sometimes I feel like the pied piper.
If we ever meet, it will
> be interesting, that much I do know. I don't want to go overboard
> today, so I will leave it there. Good riding to you.
>
> The best wheelie machine I ever had was a race prepped 1973 Kawasaki
> 750 2 stroke triple, just give it too much throttle in first or
> second, no clutch popping required. Wheelied that one once at 120+
> shifting into 5th gear too hard, real eye opener.
Same bike as above, H2SR, race bike straight from the dealer. Brickstone
can't seem to wrap his head around that little detail.
>
> I actually have to agree with you this time.
>
> I admit to dressing way down when going to a car lot, to the point one
> guy asked me to leave.
>
> I am just tired of self proclaimed experts who don't actually know
> something (or have been taught the wrong something) trying to rag on
> everything I say about just about anything.
Idiot poster is repeating his quotes now. Brickstone, that's you.
>
> I lived in the big city, S.F. Bay area long enough to have 3 cars,
'62 Falcon, '62 Chevy convertible, '65 Pontiac.
> 3 motorcycles,
'71 Yamaha 100cc, '76 Kawasaki 750cc stock, 77 Kawasaki 100cc toy.
and even a vintage ten speed
1960 something bike for local riding.
stolen from in front
> of my open front door. All were recovered, but 2 cars were totaled,
> 1 bike was undamaged, 1 was stripped down by some kid trying to
> make it into a dirt bike
'71 Yamaha.
, and one was spotted by the police
'76 Kawasaki 750.
So, what WAS the point of this post? To get me to detail a small
fraction of the things I have done in the past?
Live life to the max or die trying.
Somehow I lived.
I admit to being a statistical anomaly but I have 58.5 years under my
belt so far and still counting. Still riding and running too.
Might even join a Gym called the "Fight Club" and brush up on my martial
arts. I still like a good kick boxing match, but my daughter can beat me
at it. Fast feet, daily aerobics, 5'8" girl with my attitude.
I now go away from the time wasting Brickstone.
Happy Trails to you, until I post again.
Roy Rogers song rip off.
Bill Baka
This is supposed to be a bicycle group, Brick.
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Date: 22 May 2007 22:40:28
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
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R Brickston wrote:
> I rode a tricycle at nearly 50 mph when I was 4 or 5 years old down a
> hill and got brought home by the cops in like 1952
>
> I can build a bomb from kitchen cleaning chemicals or even make nerve
> gas without even having to think too much. Phosgene is too easy.
>
> my hearing way beyond that of the normal 56 year old.
>
> 160+ MPH with my Mustang, once racing a CHP at his request
>
> and the one time of way over 160 on a motorcycle. I did get off and
> kiss the ground after that one.
>
> I used to pass cars on the freeway at 65+ while doing a wheelie just
> for the looks on their faces
>
> a race prepped 1973 Kawasaki 750... Wheelied that one once at 120+
>
> I once pegged a 160 MPH speedometer, but only once.
>
> I actually have to agree with you this time.
>
> am very safe and confident and have been riding since 1951. My first
> road trip was in 1953 when I took my trike out on the highway to see
> haw fast I could go down a big hill. About 35, feet off pedals, and
> having a blast. At the bottom a local cop picked me up and took me
> back home, saying I was the youngest rider he had ever seen on the
> road. 4.5 years old.
>
> hat was basically the point since I grew up in Chicago and couldn't
> find hills until I rode North to the Wisconsin border.
>
> That's insane. 50 MPH downhill on pavement is my record and I am
> positively not looking to break that on the side of a mountain.
>
> There will be no convincing people of what I have done since there
> were no witnesses other than myself. The trike speed was purely a
> provocation, the motorcycle getting close to 200 MPH was not, and the
> Mustang I had was taken past 160 by both me and my wife.
>
> he bike had a 160 MPH speedo which pegged at about 170, after which
> the tach continued to gain from that point, about 8,000 RPM to nearly
> 9,000.
>
> I used to be a REAL biker when I rode a motorcycle and rode with the
> gang types on Harleys.
>
> the motorcycle getting close to 200 MPH
>
> Anyway, my need for speed pretty much went away after that, and I have
> kept it under 140 ever since, and that was only once in 1990.
>
> I electrocuted myself once when I was maybe 12, climbing a tree and
> touching a 12,000 volt wire, then getting a jump start hitting the
> ground flat on my back
>
> Doing 130MPH on a vacant road is a lot safer than lane splitting in a
> traffic jam, and no I did not mean to mislead people that I pedaled a
> bicycle that fast.
>
> At one point I dreamed of getting my hands on a surplus F-104 to feed
> my need for speed but the Air Force is kind of tight with surplus
> supersonic jets.
>
> I'm well above MENSA
>
> Bowling 229, wifes bowling 289. 1966 Chrysler Newport with 1968 440
> Police engine, about 152
>
> I have interests in sooo many subjects ranging from sub-atomic to
> trans-universal that it is hard to focus on just one.
>
> In person I am much more sociable than on this group
>
> I am just tired of self proclaimed experts who don't actually know
> something (or have been taught the wrong something) trying to rag on
> everything I say about just about anything.
>
> My usual occupation is analog electronic design engineer, test
> equipment specialist, motion control and stability, programmer when
> needed, and much more when called upon.
>
> My interests, as stated at the beginning, are hugely varied, but
> almost all related to absolute sciences, whether it be math, physics,
> chemistry, or so many more. Magazine subscriptions run the gamut from
> the obvious electronics, to NASA Tech Briefs, Modern Drug
> Discovery/Design, Genomics and Proteomics, and whatever I can get my
> hands on, about 30 in all. I would clog the bandwidth, again, if I
> tried to list them all. Riding gives me the opportunity to interact
> with and observe both nature and new people at random.
>
> In person I am much more sociable than on this group, and have stopped
> to help a stranded 'motorist', comforted an injured child while
> calling for help on my cell phone, and more often than not, just stop
> and talk with strangers I meet on the road. If we ever meet, it will
> be interesting, that much I do know. I don't want to go overboard
> today, so I will leave it there. Good riding to you.
>
> The best wheelie machine I ever had was a race prepped 1973 Kawasaki
> 750 2 stroke triple, just give it too much throttle in first or
> second, no clutch popping required. Wheelied that one once at 120+
> shifting into 5th gear too hard, real eye opener.
>
> I actually have to agree with you this time.
>
> I admit to dressing way down when going to a car lot, to the point one
> guy asked me to leave.
>
> I am just tired of self proclaimed experts who don't actually know
> something (or have been taught the wrong something) trying to rag on
> everything I say about just about anything.
>
> I lived in the big city, S.F. Bay area long enough to have 3 cars,
> 3 motorcycles, and even a vintage ten speed stolen from in front
> of my open front door. All were recovered, but 2 cars were totaled,
> 1 bike was undamaged, 1 was stripped down by some kid trying to
> make it into a dirt bike, and one was spotted by the police. The
> kid that stole the last one must have been brain dead since he
> laft the license plate on the bike facing the street. Never had
> anything stolen since I moved to the country, but a whole lot less
> steady employment, and more telecommuting for less money. Still
> worth it though. Buy a junker car/bike for getting the groceries
> and keep the good one under/around you. If my old Mazda gets stolen
> big deal, but if my classic Motobecane bike gets stolen I will be
> out for blood.
>
> Uh Ken, most riding in the city is flat so who cares what the bike
> weighs?
>
> San Francisco is one of the exceptions. I don't even like to drive a
> car there, especially not a stick, because of all those damn stop
> signs right at the top of a hill. Besides, I will stick with a
> mountain bike in S.F. just for the extra low gears. Not that I
> ever plan to bike there. I would still feel safer with a MTB due
> to the trolley rails.
You left out the 4 or 14 times he's promised he's leaving the newsgroup(s),
only to show up again after a few days or /maybe/ a week or two.
I just wish he'd take an online IQ test and make his result available
(public). MENSA awaits!
Bill "a fan of Iron Bill T. Bass" S.
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Date: 23 May 2007 06:35:57
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
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Bill Sornson wrote:
> R Brickston wrote:
>> I rode a tricycle at nearly 50 mph when I was 4 or 5 years old down a
>> hill and got brought home by the cops in like 1952
>>
>> I can build a bomb from kitchen cleaning chemicals or even make nerve
>> gas without even having to think too much. Phosgene is too easy.
>>
>> my hearing way beyond that of the normal 56 year old.
>>
>> 160+ MPH with my Mustang, once racing a CHP at his request
>>
>> and the one time of way over 160 on a motorcycle. I did get off and
>> kiss the ground after that one.
>>
>> I used to pass cars on the freeway at 65+ while doing a wheelie just
>> for the looks on their faces
>>
>> a race prepped 1973 Kawasaki 750... Wheelied that one once at 120+
>>
>> I once pegged a 160 MPH speedometer, but only once.
>>
>> I actually have to agree with you this time.
>>
>> am very safe and confident and have been riding since 1951. My first
>> road trip was in 1953 when I took my trike out on the highway to see
>> haw fast I could go down a big hill. About 35, feet off pedals, and
>> having a blast. At the bottom a local cop picked me up and took me
>> back home, saying I was the youngest rider he had ever seen on the
>> road. 4.5 years old.
>>
>> hat was basically the point since I grew up in Chicago and couldn't
>> find hills until I rode North to the Wisconsin border.
>>
>> That's insane. 50 MPH downhill on pavement is my record and I am
>> positively not looking to break that on the side of a mountain.
>>
>> There will be no convincing people of what I have done since there
>> were no witnesses other than myself. The trike speed was purely a
>> provocation, the motorcycle getting close to 200 MPH was not, and the
>> Mustang I had was taken past 160 by both me and my wife.
>>
>> he bike had a 160 MPH speedo which pegged at about 170, after which
>> the tach continued to gain from that point, about 8,000 RPM to nearly
>> 9,000.
>>
>> I used to be a REAL biker when I rode a motorcycle and rode with the
>> gang types on Harleys.
>>
>> the motorcycle getting close to 200 MPH
>>
>> Anyway, my need for speed pretty much went away after that, and I have
>> kept it under 140 ever since, and that was only once in 1990.
>>
>> I electrocuted myself once when I was maybe 12, climbing a tree and
>> touching a 12,000 volt wire, then getting a jump start hitting the
>> ground flat on my back
>>
>> Doing 130MPH on a vacant road is a lot safer than lane splitting in a
>> traffic jam, and no I did not mean to mislead people that I pedaled a
>> bicycle that fast.
>>
>> At one point I dreamed of getting my hands on a surplus F-104 to feed
>> my need for speed but the Air Force is kind of tight with surplus
>> supersonic jets.
>>
>> I'm well above MENSA
>>
>> Bowling 229, wifes bowling 289. 1966 Chrysler Newport with 1968 440
>> Police engine, about 152
>>
>> I have interests in sooo many subjects ranging from sub-atomic to
>> trans-universal that it is hard to focus on just one.
>>
>> In person I am much more sociable than on this group
>>
>> I am just tired of self proclaimed experts who don't actually know
>> something (or have been taught the wrong something) trying to rag on
>> everything I say about just about anything.
>>
>> My usual occupation is analog electronic design engineer, test
>> equipment specialist, motion control and stability, programmer when
>> needed, and much more when called upon.
>>
>> My interests, as stated at the beginning, are hugely varied, but
>> almost all related to absolute sciences, whether it be math, physics,
>> chemistry, or so many more. Magazine subscriptions run the gamut from
>> the obvious electronics, to NASA Tech Briefs, Modern Drug
>> Discovery/Design, Genomics and Proteomics, and whatever I can get my
>> hands on, about 30 in all. I would clog the bandwidth, again, if I
>> tried to list them all. Riding gives me the opportunity to interact
>> with and observe both nature and new people at random.
>>
>> In person I am much more sociable than on this group, and have stopped
>> to help a stranded 'motorist', comforted an injured child while
>> calling for help on my cell phone, and more often than not, just stop
>> and talk with strangers I meet on the road. If we ever meet, it will
>> be interesting, that much I do know. I don't want to go overboard
>> today, so I will leave it there. Good riding to you.
>>
>> The best wheelie machine I ever had was a race prepped 1973 Kawasaki
>> 750 2 stroke triple, just give it too much throttle in first or
>> second, no clutch popping required. Wheelied that one once at 120+
>> shifting into 5th gear too hard, real eye opener.
>>
>> I actually have to agree with you this time.
>>
>> I admit to dressing way down when going to a car lot, to the point one
>> guy asked me to leave.
>>
>> I am just tired of self proclaimed experts who don't actually know
>> something (or have been taught the wrong something) trying to rag on
>> everything I say about just about anything.
>>
>> I lived in the big city, S.F. Bay area long enough to have 3 cars,
>> 3 motorcycles, and even a vintage ten speed stolen from in front
>> of my open front door. All were recovered, but 2 cars were totaled,
>> 1 bike was undamaged, 1 was stripped down by some kid trying to
>> make it into a dirt bike, and one was spotted by the police. The
>> kid that stole the last one must have been brain dead since he
>> laft the license plate on the bike facing the street. Never had
>> anything stolen since I moved to the country, but a whole lot less
>> steady employment, and more telecommuting for less money. Still
>> worth it though. Buy a junker car/bike for getting the groceries
>> and keep the good one under/around you. If my old Mazda gets stolen
>> big deal, but if my classic Motobecane bike gets stolen I will be
>> out for blood.
>>
>> Uh Ken, most riding in the city is flat so who cares what the bike
>> weighs?
>>
>> San Francisco is one of the exceptions. I don't even like to drive a
>> car there, especially not a stick, because of all those damn stop
>> signs right at the top of a hill. Besides, I will stick with a
>> mountain bike in S.F. just for the extra low gears. Not that I
>> ever plan to bike there. I would still feel safer with a MTB due
>> to the trolley rails.
>
> You left out the 4 or 14 times he's promised he's leaving the newsgroup(s),
> only to show up again after a few days or /maybe/ a week or two.
I did leave R.B.M. because of a few select idiots. This is tech, not misc.
>
> I just wish he'd take an online IQ test and make his result available
> (public). MENSA awaits!
I'm actually to busy to worry about MENSA right now, since I'm working
on some patents that are not bike related. Energy saving stuff, good for
me and you.
>
> Bill "a fan of Iron Bill T. Bass" S.
>
>
Really, Bill, I don't need a fan club.
Bill Baka
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Date: 23 May 2007 05:39:34
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
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In article <0hb753hev2pnuq6oii1arh6dfivmgl8ldt@4ax.com >,
R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@ > wrote:
[good stuff omited]
This is your brain on idle.
--
Michael Press
Every hero becomes a bore at last.
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Date: 22 May 2007 23:31:52
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
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Michael Press wrote:
> In article <0hb753hev2pnuq6oii1arh6dfivmgl8ldt@4ax.com>,
> R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote:
>
> [good stuff omited]
>
> This is your brain on idle.
>
It's a vendetta on Brickston's part. He's a girlie man so he rags on me.
I don't watch baseball on TV, I get some teams together.
Bill Baka
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Date: 23 May 2007 15:38:16
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
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On Tue, 22 May 2007 23:31:52 -0700, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
>Michael Press wrote:
>> In article <0hb753hev2pnuq6oii1arh6dfivmgl8ldt@4ax.com>,
>> R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote:
>>
>> [good stuff omited]
>>
>> This is your brain on idle.
>>
>It's a vendetta on Brickston's part. He's a girlie man so he rags on me.
>I don't watch baseball on TV, I get some teams together.
>Bill Baka
"I did leave R.B.M. because of a few select idiots." You "leave" an ng
because of words from strangers that appeared on a computer screen?
Now you claim a "vendetta" against you? Bill you're just too hilarious
to pass up sharing your narcissistic lunacy.
Let me tell you what will occur with the more rigid parameters in rbt;
you will hijack thread after thread and convert it into "The Life and
Times of Bill Baka" threads ad nauseum. When you are then
blasted/ignored/reprimanded, you'll then whine and complain about "the
idiots on rbt." And you still won't get it. In fact, you'll never get
it.
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Date: 23 May 2007 16:32:26
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
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R Brickston wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 23:31:52 -0700, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Michael Press wrote:
>>> In article <0hb753hev2pnuq6oii1arh6dfivmgl8ldt@4ax.com>,
>>> R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote:
>>>
>>> [good stuff omited]
>>>
>>> This is your brain on idle.
>>>
>> It's a vendetta on Brickston's part. He's a girlie man so he rags on me.
>> I don't watch baseball on TV, I get some teams together.
>> Bill Baka
>
> "I did leave R.B.M. because of a few select idiots." You "leave" an ng
> because of words from strangers that appeared on a computer screen?
No, It was a time issue.
> Now you claim a "vendetta" against you? Bill you're just too hilarious
> to pass up sharing your narcissistic lunacy.
You followed me, so are you a computer stalker?
R.B.M got too misc and cross posted even for me and I hardly had time to
read all the posts or take the time to research everything. I have a
life, which unfortunately today involves helping a friend shuffle engine
parts and decide which to take to the dump.
Redeeming factor....I'm riding the bike over there to help.
>
> Let me tell you what will occur with the more rigid parameters in rbt;
> you will hijack thread after thread and convert it into "The Life and
> Times of Bill Baka" threads ad nauseum. When you are then
> blasted/ignored/reprimanded, you'll then whine and complain about "the
> idiots on rbt." And you still won't get it. In fact, you'll never get
> it.
If I have a particularly good ride I will post it on the proper group.
Technical stuff I will do here.
Misc stuff took up too much time.
What I do (and did) in the first person (me) will not be posted here
since you pretty much posted it for me.
The only partial truth in there is I misoverestimated my speed on the
trike at 4-5 years old. That big word up there was invented by our
brilliant president, so it must be real.
Now I get to ride to do some yeeccchhh, labor type stuff.
Bill Baka
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Date: 23 May 2007 21:29:15
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
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On Wed, 23 May 2007 16:32:26 GMT, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
>R Brickston wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 May 2007 23:31:52 -0700, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Michael Press wrote:
>>>> In article <0hb753hev2pnuq6oii1arh6dfivmgl8ldt@4ax.com>,
>>>> R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote:
>You followed me, so are you a computer stalker?
Followed you? I wouldn't waste my time.
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Date: 24 May 2007 02:22:54
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Bill Baka -- Selected Quotes from a Genius
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R Brickston wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 16:32:26 GMT, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> R Brickston wrote:
>>> On Tue, 22 May 2007 23:31:52 -0700, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Michael Press wrote:
>>>>> In article <0hb753hev2pnuq6oii1arh6dfivmgl8ldt@4ax.com>,
>>>>> R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote:
>
>> You followed me, so are you a computer stalker?
>
> Followed you? I wouldn't waste my time.
Then why are you wasting my time and the group bandwidth?
Bill Baka
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