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Date: 16 Sep 2007 20:44:23
From: vey
Subject: Brooks again
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Yeah, yeah, I know, but do I really need one of their spanners? Won't an
open wrench fit in there? Even if it is 1/8 of a turn at a time? I'm
patient.
I think my elderly father has a set of Stilson wrenches somewhere if
that is the "secret." I really despise buying special tools that I know
I probably will never use again in my life and I have a nut that needs
loosening.
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 23:20:47
From: Hank Wirtz
Subject: Re: Brooks again
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On Sep 27, 7:12 pm, John Thompson <j...@vector.os2.dhs.org > wrote:
> On 2007-09-17, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've used a small adjustable crescent wrench. Slow, but works. I also
> > have a real Brooks spanner somewhere, but for a turn or two ever
> > couple years...it's unnecessary. Good for a shop to own, I guess.
>
> When I got my Brooks Team Pro 25 or so years ago it included the
> adjusting wrench. Is that not the case any more? Alas, how the mighty
> have fallen!
>
Depends on the model. Some of the "Special" models recently have come
with the wrench, a tin of proofide, and maybe a seat cover.
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 05:54:02
From:
Subject: Re: Brooks again
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On Sep 17, 1:44 am, vey <jun...@ericvey.com > wrote:
> Yeah, yeah, I know, but do I really need one of their spanners? Won't an
> open wrench fit in there? Even if it is 1/8 of a turn at a time? I'm
> patient.
>
I got one by accident (on-line sale, poor stock picker). You still
need another tool to hold the bolt whilst you turn the nut. For how
ofteb it is used I would bodge it with something else
best wishes
james
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 06:16:45
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Brooks again
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In article <fckiff$pnl$1@news.datemas.de >,
vey <junker@ericvey.com > wrote:
> Yeah, yeah, I know, but do I really need one of their spanners? Won't an
> open wrench fit in there? Even if it is 1/8 of a turn at a time? I'm
> patient.
>
> I think my elderly father has a set of Stilson wrenches somewhere if
> that is the "secret." I really despise buying special tools that I know
> I probably will never use again in my life and I have a nut that needs
> loosening.
Here are a couple of doozies. I own both.
<http://theheadlemur.typepad.com/remodeling_for_geeks/2006/10/orphan_tools_ba.html >
<http://amscostore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=4562&Category_Code=PLPT >
--
Michael Press
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 23:49:38
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Brooks again
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On Sep 17, 5:58 pm, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net > wrote:
> In article <fckiff$pn...@news.datemas.de>, vey <jun...@ericvey.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, yeah, I know, but do I really need one of their spanners? Won't
> > an open wrench fit in there? Even if it is 1/8 of a turn at a time?
> > I'm patient.
>
> Of course.
>
> > I think my elderly father has a set of Stilson wrenches somewhere if
> > that is the "secret."
>
> Somehow I read that as "Stilton" wrenches and it was an odd mental
> image. Wrenches for cheese? Wrenches made from cheese?
>
I read the phrase "great Danish blue" wrong once. Dogcheese. Ick.
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 19:28:51
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Brooks again
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>> vey <jun...@ericvey.com> wrote:
>>> Yeah, yeah, I know, but do I really need one of their spanners? Won't
>>> an open wrench fit in there? Even if it is 1/8 of a turn at a time?
>>> I'm patient.
> Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
>> Of course.
>> vey <jun...@ericvey.com> wrote:
>>> I think my elderly father has a set of Stilson wrenches somewhere if
>>> that is the "secret."
> Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
>> Somehow I read that as "Stilton" wrenches and it was an odd mental
>> image. Wrenches for cheese? Wrenches made from cheese?
landotter wrote:
> I read the phrase "great Danish blue" wrong once. Dogcheese. Ick.
Yoshi Konno of 3Rensho sat down with us at a Chinese restaurant, glanced
at a menu and exclaimed "Human Beef!!?!" [Hunan]
I believe "Stilson" means something like a "Ford Auto Wrench"; not a
great tool for this:
http://www.mytoolstore.com/diamond/dmdpage.html
http://www.brookfieldcthistory.org/page_Pic_20_Adjustable_Wrenches.html
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 17:58:27
From: Tim McNamara
Subject: Re: Brooks again
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In article <fckiff$pnl$1@news.datemas.de >, vey <junker@ericvey.com>
wrote:
> Yeah, yeah, I know, but do I really need one of their spanners? Won't
> an open wrench fit in there? Even if it is 1/8 of a turn at a time?
> I'm patient.
Of course.
> I think my elderly father has a set of Stilson wrenches somewhere if
> that is the "secret."
Somehow I read that as "Stilton" wrenches and it was an odd mental
image. Wrenches for cheese? Wrenches made from cheese?
> I really despise buying special tools that I know I probably will
> never use again in my life and I have a nut that needs loosening.
Family newsgroup, buddy!
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 21:49:37
From: Mark
Subject: Re: Brooks again
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Tim McNamara wrote:
> In article <fckiff$pnl$1@news.datemas.de>, vey <junker@ericvey.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think my elderly father has a set of Stilson wrenches somewhere if
>> that is the "secret."
>
> Somehow I read that as "Stilton" wrenches and it was an odd mental
> image. Wrenches for cheese? Wrenches made from cheese?
Goes with the peanut butter wrench.
Mark J.
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 01:51:46
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Brooks again
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On Sep 16, 7:44 pm, vey <jun...@ericvey.com > wrote:
> Yeah, yeah, I know, but do I really need one of their spanners? Won't an
> open wrench fit in there? Even if it is 1/8 of a turn at a time? I'm
> patient.
>
I've used a small adjustable crescent wrench. Slow, but works. I also
have a real Brooks spanner somewhere, but for a turn or two ever
couple years...it's unnecessary. Good for a shop to own, I guess.
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 21:12:52
From: John Thompson
Subject: Re: Brooks again
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On 2007-09-17, landotter <landotter@gmail.com > wrote:
> I've used a small adjustable crescent wrench. Slow, but works. I also
> have a real Brooks spanner somewhere, but for a turn or two ever
> couple years...it's unnecessary. Good for a shop to own, I guess.
When I got my Brooks Team Pro 25 or so years ago it included the
adjusting wrench. Is that not the case any more? Alas, how the mighty
have fallen!
Then there's the offset Campy post/saddle wrench, but I like the Brooks
better.
--
John (john@os2.dhs.org)
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Date: 28 Sep 2007 09:26:50
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Brooks again
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"John Thompson" <john@vector.os2.dhs.org > wrote in message
news:slrnffoop4.frv.john@vector.os2.dhs.org...
> On 2007-09-17, landotter <landotter@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've used a small adjustable crescent wrench. Slow, but works. I also
> > have a real Brooks spanner somewhere, but for a turn or two ever
> > couple years...it's unnecessary. Good for a shop to own, I guess.
>
> When I got my Brooks Team Pro 25 or so years ago it included the
> adjusting wrench. Is that not the case any more? Alas, how the mighty
> have fallen!
>
> Then there's the offset Campy post/saddle wrench, but I like the Brooks
> better.
>
> --
>
> John (john@os2.dhs.org)
Most don't come with the wrench anymore. I picked up a used bike with a
titanium frame Brooks Swallow. The adjusting bolt has a hex swaged into
the end and uses a hex key for adjusting.
I have an old Schwinn made wrench designed for adjusting Brooks saddles on
Paramounts. It looks like the Campy offset tool but it has a 12 point 10mm
wrench on one end instead of the standard 6 point hex wrench. It makes
adjusting old style Campy 2 bolt seatposts a lot easier.
Chas.
Chas.
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Date: 16 Sep 2007 17:49:08
From: philcycles
Subject: Re: Brooks again
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vey wrote:
> Yeah, yeah, I know, but do I really need one of their spanners? Won't an
> open wrench fit in there? Even if it is 1/8 of a turn at a time? I'm
> patient.
>
> I think my elderly father has a set of Stilson wrenches somewhere if
> that is the "secret." I really despise buying special tools that I know
> I probably will never use again in my life and I have a nut that needs
> loosening.
You'll need to grind down the sides of the open end wrench.
Phil Brown
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 15:32:14
From:
Subject: Re: Brooks again
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philcycles wrote:
> vey wrote:
>> Yeah, yeah, I know, but do I really need one of their spanners? Won't an
>> open wrench fit in there? Even if it is 1/8 of a turn at a time? I'm
>> patient.
>>
>> I think my elderly father has a set of Stilson wrenches somewhere if
>> that is the "secret." I really despise buying special tools that I know
>> I probably will never use again in my life and I have a nut that needs
>> loosening.
>
> You'll need to grind down the sides of the open end wrench.
> Phil Brown
>
yep a 17/32".
A thin 14mm line wrench will probably work
Or
Cut a slot in a 12 point box-end wrench to clear the adjuster shank,
thin sides as required.
Or
IIRC the real thing is about $8 bucks or so, probably $30 in titanium ;-).
Marcus
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 06:05:01
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Brooks again
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In article
<46eed66a$0$24119$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com >,
marcus9000@gmail.com wrote:
> philcycles wrote:
> > vey wrote:
> >> Yeah, yeah, I know, but do I really need one of their spanners? Won't an
> >> open wrench fit in there? Even if it is 1/8 of a turn at a time? I'm
> >> patient.
> >>
> >> I think my elderly father has a set of Stilson wrenches somewhere if
> >> that is the "secret." I really despise buying special tools that I know
> >> I probably will never use again in my life and I have a nut that needs
> >> loosening.
> >
> > You'll need to grind down the sides of the open end wrench.
> > Phil Brown
> >
> yep a 17/32".
> A thin 14mm line wrench will probably work
> Or
> Cut a slot in a 12 point box-end wrench to clear the adjuster shank,
> thin sides as required.
> Or
> IIRC the real thing is about $8 bucks or so, probably $30 in titanium ;-).
I use long nose pliers. For best results one should not
over tighten the nut, and the feeble grip of the pliers
makes it easy to quit before over tightening.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 16 Sep 2007 20:57:07
From: vey
Subject: Re: Brooks again
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philcycles wrote:
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> You'll need to grind down the sides of the open end wrench.
I can do that. I have a grinder. That's what they make Chinese wrenches
for. What size do I need?
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Date: 16 Sep 2007 21:01:25
From: vey
Subject: Re: Brooks again
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vey wrote:
> philcycles wrote:
>
>>
>> You'll need to grind down the sides of the open end wrench.
>
>
> I can do that. I have a grinder. That's what they make Chinese wrenches
> for. What size do I need?
Thinking again, I might have some "Made in USA" 195x era wrenches that
are very strong and very thin on the sides. But if the nut is metric,
they won't work.
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