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Date: 01 Aug 2007 01:28:19
From: Colin B.
Subject: Cadence computers
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Hey all;
Looking to replace my venerable Cateye cc-6000, after the bracket broke
last week. Cadence is a must, as far as I'm concerned. Wireless is a toy
that I don't need and don't want to pay for. After some research, I'm left
with four contenders:
Cateye Strada Cadence
Cateye Astrale 8
Sigma BC 1606L
Trek 11i
The Astrale 8 and the 11i are the only ones readily available around here.
One place said they'll be getting the Sigma in shortly. The Strada Cadence
seems to be the most promising of the lot.
Any opinions on these things? Is one clearly better or worse than the
others? Is the Trek worthwhile?
Thanks,
Colin
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Date: 03 Aug 2007 10:42:47
From: Nate Knutson
Subject: Re: Cadence computers
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On Aug 3, 10:23 am, "Colin B." <cbi...@somewhereelse.nucleus.com >
wrote:
> Nate Knutson <biken...@riseup.net> wrote:
> > On Aug 3, 9:32 am, "Colin B." <cbi...@somewhereelse.nucleus.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Kurd <n...@fing.way> wrote:
>
> >> >> > The Strada Cadence
> >> >> > seems to be the most promising of the lot.
>
> >> > My boss has one. Very easy install. One big cable runs to the cadence sensor
> >> > then it splits for the speed sensor on the rear wheel.
> >> > Big display
> >> > Easy to use
> >> > Cateye
>
> >> > What's not to love?
>
> >> Well, apparently they're not yet available in Canada. This is utterly
> >> stupid. The LBS said that they didn't put any into their fall order, so
> >> the earliest they can get them in is December, and they don't know how
> >> much it's going to cost. Does Cateye not release stuff in Canada at the
> >> same time, or is the distributor just idiotic?
>
> > The problem is that the shop people you're talking to are either
> > morons or folks who've had their hands tied by the moron in charge.
> > They can pick up the phone and get you one. It's really that simple;
> > it doesn't matter that you're in Canada. That they didn't get any on
> > their big fall order is totally irrelevant. Shops do have to think
> > about things like minimum orders and either making the freight
> > worthwhile for them or having you pay it, but that's not a big deal
> > for a shop with their stuff together.
>
> Actually, I did some more searching out of frustration. Shops here have to
> get their stock through the Canadian distributor, Cycles Lambert Inc., in
> Quebec. No problem, except that they don't yet carry the Strada Cadence, so
> it's effectively unavailable in the entire country.
Huh... I was just assuming that wouldn't be the case, since in the US,
Cateye is probably the most commonly carried brand I can think of,
after Park, and some of the distributors that carry it do all of North
America. My bad though apparently.
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Date: 03 Aug 2007 09:56:23
From: Nate Knutson
Subject: Re: Cadence computers
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On Aug 3, 9:32 am, "Colin B." <cbi...@somewhereelse.nucleus.com >
wrote:
> Kurd <n...@fing.way> wrote:
>
> >> > The Strada Cadence
> >> > seems to be the most promising of the lot.
>
> > My boss has one. Very easy install. One big cable runs to the cadence sensor
> > then it splits for the speed sensor on the rear wheel.
> > Big display
> > Easy to use
> > Cateye
>
> > What's not to love?
>
> Well, apparently they're not yet available in Canada. This is utterly
> stupid. The LBS said that they didn't put any into their fall order, so
> the earliest they can get them in is December, and they don't know how
> much it's going to cost. Does Cateye not release stuff in Canada at the
> same time, or is the distributor just idiotic?
The problem is that the shop people you're talking to are either
morons or folks who've had their hands tied by the moron in charge.
They can pick up the phone and get you one. It's really that simple;
it doesn't matter that you're in Canada. That they didn't get any on
their big fall order is totally irrelevant. Shops do have to think
about things like minimum orders and either making the freight
worthwhile for them or having you pay it, but that's not a big deal
for a shop with their stuff together.
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Date: 03 Aug 2007 17:23:16
From: Colin B.
Subject: Re: Cadence computers
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Nate Knutson <bikenate@riseup.net > wrote:
> On Aug 3, 9:32 am, "Colin B." <cbi...@somewhereelse.nucleus.com>
> wrote:
>> Kurd <n...@fing.way> wrote:
>>
>> >> > The Strada Cadence
>> >> > seems to be the most promising of the lot.
>>
>> > My boss has one. Very easy install. One big cable runs to the cadence sensor
>> > then it splits for the speed sensor on the rear wheel.
>> > Big display
>> > Easy to use
>> > Cateye
>>
>> > What's not to love?
>>
>> Well, apparently they're not yet available in Canada. This is utterly
>> stupid. The LBS said that they didn't put any into their fall order, so
>> the earliest they can get them in is December, and they don't know how
>> much it's going to cost. Does Cateye not release stuff in Canada at the
>> same time, or is the distributor just idiotic?
>
> The problem is that the shop people you're talking to are either
> morons or folks who've had their hands tied by the moron in charge.
> They can pick up the phone and get you one. It's really that simple;
> it doesn't matter that you're in Canada. That they didn't get any on
> their big fall order is totally irrelevant. Shops do have to think
> about things like minimum orders and either making the freight
> worthwhile for them or having you pay it, but that's not a big deal
> for a shop with their stuff together.
Actually, I did some more searching out of frustration. Shops here have to
get their stock through the Canadian distributor, Cycles Lambert Inc., in
Quebec. No problem, except that they don't yet carry the Strada Cadence, so
it's effectively unavailable in the entire country.
As for 'a shop with their stuff together,' the job market here is so
strapped for workers that there seems to be no incentive for people to
actually do their jobs well in any sector. Getting a job as a purchasing
manager in a bike shop here seems to require nothing more than having
fallen off a bike and hit your head on a tree root.
I've ordered from Nashbar. It took two minutes to enter the information and
pay, complete with international shipping calculations. I got a confirmation
within five minutes. What a joy!
Colin
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Date: 04 Aug 2007 06:10:05
From: Dan Burkhart
Subject: Re: Cadence computers
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Colin B. Wrote:
> Nate Knutson <bikenate@riseup.net> wrote:
> > On Aug 3, 9:32 am, "Colin B." <cbi...@somewhereelse.nucleus.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Kurd <n...@fing.way> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> > The Strada Cadence
> >> >> > seems to be the most promising of the lot.
> >>
> >> > My boss has one. Very easy install. One big cable runs to th
> cadence sensor
> >> > then it splits for the speed sensor on the rear wheel.
> >> > Big display
> >> > Easy to use
> >> > Cateye
> >>
> >> > What's not to love?
> >>
> >> Well, apparently they're not yet available in Canada. This i
> utterly
> >> stupid. The LBS said that they didn't put any into their fall order
> so
> >> the earliest they can get them in is December, and they don't kno
> how
> >> much it's going to cost. Does Cateye not release stuff in Canada a
> the
> >> same time, or is the distributor just idiotic?
> >
> > The problem is that the shop people you're talking to are either
> > morons or folks who've had their hands tied by the moron in charge.
> > They can pick up the phone and get you one. It's really that simple;
> > it doesn't matter that you're in Canada. That they didn't get any on
> > their big fall order is totally irrelevant. Shops do have to think
> > about things like minimum orders and either making the freight
> > worthwhile for them or having you pay it, but that's not a big deal
> > for a shop with their stuff together.
>
> Actually, I did some more searching out of frustration. Shops here hav
> to
> get their stock through the Canadian distributor, Cycles Lambert Inc.
> in
> Quebec. No problem, except that they don't yet carry the Strad
> Cadence, so
> it's effectively unavailable in the entire country.
>
> As for 'a shop with their stuff together,' the job market here is so
> strapped for workers that there seems to be no incentive for people to
> actually do their jobs well in any sector. Getting a job as
> purchasing
> manager in a bike shop here seems to require nothing more than having
> fallen off a bike and hit your head on a tree root.
>
> I've ordered from Nashbar. It took two minutes to enter the informatio
> and
> pay, complete with international shipping calculations. I got
> confirmation
> within five minutes. What a joy!
>
> Colin
You are correct that Cycles Lambert is the exclusive distributor o
Cateye in Canada. If the model you are looking for is Strada Cadenc
CC-RD200, Lambert has 30 of them in stock right now. I just checked.
Catalogue price is $57.90 Cdn
--
Dan Burkhart
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Date: 08 Aug 2007 17:55:40
From: Colin B.
Subject: Re: Cadence computers
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Just wanted to follow up on my bike computer shopping saga.
Dan Burkhart <Dan.Burkhart.2uragb@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com > wrote:
> Colin B. Wrote:
>> Nate Knutson <bikenate@riseup.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > The problem is that the shop people you're talking to are either
>> > morons or folks who've had their hands tied by the moron in charge.
>> > They can pick up the phone and get you one. It's really that simple;
>> > it doesn't matter that you're in Canada. That they didn't get any on
>> > their big fall order is totally irrelevant. Shops do have to think
>> > about things like minimum orders and either making the freight
>> > worthwhile for them or having you pay it, but that's not a big deal
>> > for a shop with their stuff together.
>>
>> Actually, I did some more searching out of frustration. Shops here have
>> to get their stock through the Canadian distributor, Cycles Lambert Inc.
>> in Quebec. No problem, except that they don't yet carry the Strada
>> Cadence, so it's effectively unavailable in the entire country.
>>
>> I've ordered from Nashbar. It took two minutes to enter the information
>> and pay, complete with international shipping calculations. I got a
>> confirmation within five minutes. What a joy!
>>
>> Colin
>
> You are correct that Cycles Lambert is the exclusive distributor of
> Cateye in Canada. If the model you are looking for is Strada Cadence
> CC-RD200, Lambert has 30 of them in stock right now. I just checked.
> Catalogue price is $57.90 Cdn.
I got a friendly email from the folks at Cycles Lambert the other day.
Turns out there was a bug on their website, and the Strada Cadence was
listed as a 'model variant' of the Astrale 8. This effectively made it
invisible to searching, which is probably why none of the LBS people
could find it.
So the take-home message here is that the Strada Cadence IS available in
Canada, it IS in stock, and has a list price of $57.99cdn. (rather high
vs. the US list price of $45, but well...)
Thanks all,
Colin
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 16:56:53
From: Colin B.
Subject: Re: Cadence computers
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Dan Burkhart <Dan.Burkhart.2uragb@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com > wrote:
>
> Colin B. Wrote:
>> Nate Knutson <bikenate@riseup.net> wrote:
>> > On Aug 3, 9:32 am, "Colin B." <cbi...@somewhereelse.nucleus.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Kurd <n...@fing.way> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> > The Strada Cadence
>> >> >> > seems to be the most promising of the lot.
>> >>
>> >> > My boss has one. Very easy install. One big cable runs to the
>> cadence sensor
>> >> > then it splits for the speed sensor on the rear wheel.
>> >> > Big display
>> >> > Easy to use
>> >> > Cateye
>> >>
>> >> > What's not to love?
>> >>
>> >> Well, apparently they're not yet available in Canada. This is
>> utterly
>> >> stupid. The LBS said that they didn't put any into their fall order,
>> so
>> >> the earliest they can get them in is December, and they don't know
>> how
>> >> much it's going to cost. Does Cateye not release stuff in Canada at
>> the
>> >> same time, or is the distributor just idiotic?
>> >
>> > The problem is that the shop people you're talking to are either
>> > morons or folks who've had their hands tied by the moron in charge.
>> > They can pick up the phone and get you one. It's really that simple;
>> > it doesn't matter that you're in Canada. That they didn't get any on
>> > their big fall order is totally irrelevant. Shops do have to think
>> > about things like minimum orders and either making the freight
>> > worthwhile for them or having you pay it, but that's not a big deal
>> > for a shop with their stuff together.
>>
>> Actually, I did some more searching out of frustration. Shops here have
>> to
>> get their stock through the Canadian distributor, Cycles Lambert Inc.,
>> in
>> Quebec. No problem, except that they don't yet carry the Strada
>> Cadence, so
>> it's effectively unavailable in the entire country.
>>
>> As for 'a shop with their stuff together,' the job market here is so
>> strapped for workers that there seems to be no incentive for people to
>> actually do their jobs well in any sector. Getting a job as a
>> purchasing
>> manager in a bike shop here seems to require nothing more than having
>> fallen off a bike and hit your head on a tree root.
>>
>> I've ordered from Nashbar. It took two minutes to enter the information
>> and
>> pay, complete with international shipping calculations. I got a
>> confirmation
>> within five minutes. What a joy!
>>
>> Colin
> You are correct that Cycles Lambert is the exclusive distributor of
> Cateye in Canada. If the model you are looking for is Strada Cadence
> CC-RD200, Lambert has 30 of them in stock right now. I just checked.
> Catalogue price is $57.90 Cdn.
Do you have an internal line on these? I searched their website for cateye,
strada, strada cadence, cc-rd200, and a number of other things. It just
ain't there, that I can find.
All of which is of course moot, since as I said, I ordered from Nashbar.
Colin
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Date: 02 Aug 2007 12:48:49
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com
Subject: Re: Cadence computers
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On Jul 31, 7:28 pm, "Colin B." <cbi...@somewhereelse.nucleus.com >
wrote:
> Hey all;
>
> Looking to replace my venerable Cateye cc-6000, after the bracket broke
> last week. Cadence is a must, as far as I'm concerned. Wireless is a toy
> that I don't need and don't want to pay for. After some research, I'm left
> with four contenders:
>
> Cateye Strada Cadence
> Cateye Astrale 8
> Sigma BC 1606L
> Trek 11i
>
> The Astrale 8 and the 11i are the only ones readily available around here.
> One place said they'll be getting the Sigma in shortly. The Strada Cadence
> seems to be the most promising of the lot.
>
> Any opinions on these things? Is one clearly better or worse than the
> others? Is the Trek worthwhile?
>
> Thanks,
> Colin
The new Strada series of Cateye are very nice..all of them. If ya
can't get one locally, I can send ya one...
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Date: 02 Aug 2007 04:13:11
From: DNM
Subject: Re: Cadence computers
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Colin B. wrote:
> Hey all;
>
> Looking to replace my venerable Cateye cc-6000, after the bracket broke
> last week. Cadence is a must, as far as I'm concerned. Wireless is a toy
> that I don't need and don't want to pay for. After some research, I'm left
> with four contenders:
>
> Cateye Strada Cadence
> Cateye Astrale 8
> Sigma BC 1606L
> Trek 11i
>
> The Astrale 8 and the 11i are the only ones readily available around here.
> One place said they'll be getting the Sigma in shortly. The Strada Cadence
> seems to be the most promising of the lot.
>
> Any opinions on these things? Is one clearly better or worse than the
> others? Is the Trek worthwhile?
>
> Thanks,
> Colin
I have the Astrale, and like everything about it except that I cannot
pre-set odometer. I like the way Cateye allows auto-start or not...
not meaning that all time, including stops, counts in the calculation
of average speed.
David
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Date: 01 Aug 2007 18:46:39
From: John Everett
Subject: Re: Cadence computers
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On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 01:28:19 GMT, "Colin B."
<cbigam@somewhereelse.nucleus.com > wrote:
>Hey all;
>
>Looking to replace my venerable Cateye cc-6000, after the bracket broke
>last week.
You have my sympathy. I have CC-6000s on three of my bikes and don't
know what I'd do if one of them broke. Astrale?
--
jeverett3<AT >sbcglobal<DOT>net (John V. Everett)
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Date: 01 Aug 2007 11:27:25
From: russellseaton1@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Cadence computers
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On Aug 1, 9:26 am, "Colin B." <cbi...@somewhereelse.nucleus.com >
wrote:
> BCDrums <bcdr...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Kurd wrote:
> >>>> The Strada Cadence
> >>>> seems to be the most promising of the lot.
>
> >> My boss has one. Very easy install. One big cable runs to the cadence sensor
> >> then it splits for the speed sensor on the rear wheel.
> >> Big display
> >> Easy to use
> >> Cateye
>
> >> What's not to love?
>
> > Can one enter past odometer data? Or are we starting from zero again?
>
> The odometer is settable. It also has a second trip meter and a pace arrow.
> The only thing missing on the Strada Cadence vs. the Astrale 8 is the
> ability to switch the top display to cadence. I can live without that, I
> think.
>
> The REAL disadvantage of the Strada is that none of the shops around here
> carry it, and most of the staff are too brain-dead to know if they can
> order it for me.
>
> Ah well. I think I'll have to get it shipped.
>
> Colin
Nashbar has free shipping through 8/13. $35.95 for the Cateye Strada
cadence computer and $32.95 for the Astrale 8 cadence computer.
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Date: 31 Jul 2007 18:50:07
From: Nate Knutson
Subject: Re: Cadence computers
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On Jul 31, 6:28 pm, "Colin B." <cbi...@somewhereelse.nucleus.com >
wrote:
> Hey all;
>
> Looking to replace my venerable Cateye cc-6000, after the bracket broke
> last week. Cadence is a must, as far as I'm concerned. Wireless is a toy
> that I don't need and don't want to pay for. After some research, I'm left
> with four contenders:
>
> Cateye Strada Cadence
> Cateye Astrale 8
> Sigma BC 1606L
> Trek 11i
>
> The Astrale 8 and the 11i are the only ones readily available around here.
> One place said they'll be getting the Sigma in shortly. The Strada Cadence
> seems to be the most promising of the lot.
>
> Any opinions on these things? Is one clearly better or worse than the
> others? Is the Trek worthwhile?
>
> Thanks,
> Colin
Cateye's design and reliabiilty is very good and their support is
unmatched in my experience - if anything goes wrong and it's their
fault, you're gonna get a free replacement on the way that day, no
problem. And as a company they're pretty notable for not doing stupid
stuff, which is rare.
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Date: 31 Jul 2007 23:40:29
From: Kurd
Subject: Re: Cadence computers
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> > The Strada Cadence
> > seems to be the most promising of the lot.
> >
My boss has one. Very easy install. One big cable runs to the cadence sensor
then it splits for the speed sensor on the rear wheel.
Big display
Easy to use
Cateye
What's not to love?
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Date: 03 Aug 2007 16:32:38
From: Colin B.
Subject: Re: Cadence computers
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Kurd <no@fing.way > wrote:
>
>> > The Strada Cadence
>> > seems to be the most promising of the lot.
>> >
> My boss has one. Very easy install. One big cable runs to the cadence sensor
> then it splits for the speed sensor on the rear wheel.
> Big display
> Easy to use
> Cateye
>
> What's not to love?
Well, apparently they're not yet available in Canada. This is utterly
stupid. The LBS said that they didn't put any into their fall order, so
the earliest they can get them in is December, and they don't know how
much it's going to cost. Does Cateye not release stuff in Canada at the
same time, or is the distributor just idiotic? I don't know, but I've had
it--I'm ordering from Nashbar, and will suck up the customs and shipping
charges. It's still probably going to be cheaper than buying locally.
(As a comparison, the Astrale 8 sells locally for $60, or $57USD.)
This is silly and pathetic. Why is it so damned difficult to buy stuff
in Canada? As I get older, things just get worse.
Rantingly,
Colin
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Date: 01 Aug 2007 08:05:27
From: BCDrums
Subject: Re: Cadence computers
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Kurd wrote:
>>> The Strada Cadence
>>> seems to be the most promising of the lot.
>>>
> My boss has one. Very easy install. One big cable runs to the cadence sensor
> then it splits for the speed sensor on the rear wheel.
> Big display
> Easy to use
> Cateye
>
> What's not to love?
>
>
Can one enter past odometer data? Or are we starting from zero again?
BC
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Date: 01 Aug 2007 14:26:21
From: Colin B.
Subject: Re: Cadence computers
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BCDrums <bcdrums@comcast.net > wrote:
> Kurd wrote:
>>>> The Strada Cadence
>>>> seems to be the most promising of the lot.
>>>>
>> My boss has one. Very easy install. One big cable runs to the cadence sensor
>> then it splits for the speed sensor on the rear wheel.
>> Big display
>> Easy to use
>> Cateye
>>
>> What's not to love?
>>
>>
> Can one enter past odometer data? Or are we starting from zero again?
The odometer is settable. It also has a second trip meter and a pace arrow.
The only thing missing on the Strada Cadence vs. the Astrale 8 is the
ability to switch the top display to cadence. I can live without that, I
think.
The REAL disadvantage of the Strada is that none of the shops around here
carry it, and most of the staff are too brain-dead to know if they can
order it for me.
Ah well. I think I'll have to get it shipped.
Colin
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Date: 01 Aug 2007 14:53:44
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Cadence computers
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>>>>> The Strada Cadence
>>>>> seems to be the most promising of the lot.
>> Kurd wrote:
>>> My boss has one. Very easy install. One big cable runs to the cadence sensor
>>> then it splits for the speed sensor on the rear wheel.
>>> Big display
>>> Easy to use
>>> Cateye
>>> What's not to love?
> BCDrums <bcdrums@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Can one enter past odometer data? Or are we starting from zero again?
Colin B. wrote:
> The odometer is settable. It also has a second trip meter and a pace arrow.
> The only thing missing on the Strada Cadence vs. the Astrale 8 is the
> ability to switch the top display to cadence. I can live without that, I
> think.
> The REAL disadvantage of the Strada is that none of the shops around here
> carry it, and most of the staff are too brain-dead to know if they can
> order it for me.
> Ah well. I think I'll have to get it shipped.
Huh? Cateye 2007 Strada series has shipping from several distributors
since early May. I don't believe much is available in 2006 Cateye anyway
now. Yes Cateye is the reliable choice IMHO.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 01 Aug 2007 20:44:26
From: Colin B.
Subject: Re: Cadence computers
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A Muzi <am@yellowjersey.org > wrote:
>>>>>> The Strada Cadence
>>>>>> seems to be the most promising of the lot.
>
> >> Kurd wrote:
>>>> My boss has one. Very easy install. One big cable runs to the cadence sensor
>>>> then it splits for the speed sensor on the rear wheel.
>>>> Big display
>>>> Easy to use
>>>> Cateye
>>>> What's not to love?
>
>> BCDrums <bcdrums@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Can one enter past odometer data? Or are we starting from zero again?
>
> Colin B. wrote:
>> The odometer is settable. It also has a second trip meter and a pace arrow.
>> The only thing missing on the Strada Cadence vs. the Astrale 8 is the
>> ability to switch the top display to cadence. I can live without that, I
>> think.
>> The REAL disadvantage of the Strada is that none of the shops around here
>> carry it, and most of the staff are too brain-dead to know if they can
>> order it for me.
>> Ah well. I think I'll have to get it shipped.
>
> Huh? Cateye 2007 Strada series has shipping from several distributors
> since early May. I don't believe much is available in 2006 Cateye anyway
> now. Yes Cateye is the reliable choice IMHO.
I should mention that "around here" is Calgary, Canada. Availability seems
to be quite a bit more limited here, despite a population of over a million.
Well, I just ordered a pair of them from the LBS. If the distributor has
them, I'll have one installed on my bike and one on my wife's by the end
of next week.
Thanks,
Colin
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Date: 01 Aug 2007 11:05:59
From: Bruce Gilbert
Subject: Re: Cadence computers
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"Colin B." <cbigam@somewhereelse.nucleus.com > wrote in message
news:46b0980c@news.nucleus.com...
> BCDrums <bcdrums@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Kurd wrote:
> >>>> The Strada Cadence
> >>>> seems to be the most promising of the lot.
> >>>>
> >> My boss has one. Very easy install. One big cable runs to the cadence
sensor
> >> then it splits for the speed sensor on the rear wheel.
> >> Big display
> >> Easy to use
> >> Cateye
> >>
> >> What's not to love?
> >>
> >>
> > Can one enter past odometer data? Or are we starting from zero again?
>
> The odometer is settable. It also has a second trip meter and a pace
arrow.
> The only thing missing on the Strada Cadence vs. the Astrale 8 is the
> ability to switch the top display to cadence. I can live without that, I
> think.
>
> The REAL disadvantage of the Strada is that none of the shops around here
> carry it, and most of the staff are too brain-dead to know if they can
> order it for me.
>
> Ah well. I think I'll have to get it shipped.
>
> Colin
Every major distributor has them. Go to your bikeshop and ask for who does
the buying. If the counter folks are not helping, the buyer should. They may
ask you to prepay and then wait a bit. That way your piece can go in along
with a larger order without it being a real big hit on the shipping costs.
Bruce
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