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Date: 21 May 2007 09:50:52
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Subject: Campagnolo 1998 Chorus Rear Hub- Adjustment Problems
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Hi, I am having problems adjusting my '98 Chorus rear hub. When doing the preload adjustments, I can not get it to the point that there is a bit of play when the quick release isn't tight, but no play when the quick release is tight. Either it is too tight and feels rough, or it is loose enough but has 2mm of play when the QR is tight. I disassembled the hub and put it back together. I 've check the '98 Chorus exploded diagram from Campy, and can't see anything I did wrong. One question, though- is the set screw on the cog-side supposed to screw into the axle slot? Also, how tight should one tighten the right-side outmost nut on the axle? Thanks .... Rob
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Date: 24 May 2007 05:30:22
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Campagnolo 1998 Chorus Rear Hub- Adjustment Problems
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On May 22, 6:41 am, Qui si parla Campagnolo <p...@vecchios.com > wrote: > On May 21, 10:50 am, por...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > I am having problems adjusting my '98 Chorus rear hub. When doing > > the preload adjustments, I can not get it to the point that there is a > > bit of play when the quick release isn't tight, but no play when the > > quick release is tight. Either it is too tight and feels rough, or it > > is loose enough but has 2mm of play when the QR is tight. > > > I disassembled the hub and put it back together. I 've check the '98 > > Chorus exploded diagram from Campy, and can't see anything I did > > wrong. One question, though- is the set screw on the cog-side > > supposed to screw into the axle slot? > > > Also, how tight should one tighten the right-side outmost nut on the > > axle? > > > Thanks .... Rob > > 8 1/4 inch balls on the left side...10 7/32 under the freehub. Right > side locknut 10 ft-lbs, then tighten the setscrew..not necessarily > into the slot-doesn't matter. No pits in the replaceable cone under > the freehub? Rubber o ring not pinched under the freehub? An axle vice > helps a lot when adjusting these. Drive side into the axle vice, then > adjust in small increments. OPPPPS, 9 1/4 inch balls, not 8..someday I'm gonna learn how to type and proofread...
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Date: 23 May 2007 14:15:47
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Subject: Re: Campagnolo 1998 Chorus Rear Hub- Adjustment Problems
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On May 22, 8:41 am, Qui si parla Campagnolo <p...@vecchios.com > wrote: > 8 1/4 inch balls on the left side...10 7/32 under the freehub. That was it. Talk about Murphy. There must have been an extra bearing dropped into one of the recesses of the hub during manufacture or the last overhaul. I took out the left side bearings, cleaned them, and then put them back in. All 9 of them. Problem solved! You guys rock. Thanks- Rob
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Date: 22 May 2007 12:21:40
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Subject: Re: Campagnolo 1998 Chorus Rear Hub- Adjustment Problems
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On May 22, 8:41 am, Qui si parla Campagnolo <p...@vecchios.com > wrote: (snip) > ese. Drive side into the axle vice, then > adjust in small increments. Thanks, Peter and Alex, I'll give it a shot tonight. Rob Perkins
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Date: 22 May 2007 05:41:59
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Campagnolo 1998 Chorus Rear Hub- Adjustment Problems
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On May 21, 10:50 am, por...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > I am having problems adjusting my '98 Chorus rear hub. When doing > the preload adjustments, I can not get it to the point that there is a > bit of play when the quick release isn't tight, but no play when the > quick release is tight. Either it is too tight and feels rough, or it > is loose enough but has 2mm of play when the QR is tight. > > I disassembled the hub and put it back together. I 've check the '98 > Chorus exploded diagram from Campy, and can't see anything I did > wrong. One question, though- is the set screw on the cog-side > supposed to screw into the axle slot? > > Also, how tight should one tighten the right-side outmost nut on the > axle? > > Thanks .... Rob 8 1/4 inch balls on the left side...10 7/32 under the freehub. Right side locknut 10 ft-lbs, then tighten the setscrew..not necessarily into the slot-doesn't matter. No pits in the replaceable cone under the freehub? Rubber o ring not pinched under the freehub? An axle vice helps a lot when adjusting these. Drive side into the axle vice, then adjust in small increments.
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Date: 21 May 2007 20:11:48
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Campagnolo 1998 Chorus Rear Hub- Adjustment Problems
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porico@gmail.com wrote: > I am having problems adjusting my '98 Chorus rear hub. When doing > the preload adjustments, I can not get it to the point that there is a > bit of play when the quick release isn't tight, but no play when the > quick release is tight. Either it is too tight and feels rough, or it > is loose enough but has 2mm of play when the QR is tight. > > I disassembled the hub and put it back together. I 've check the '98 > Chorus exploded diagram from Campy, and can't see anything I did > wrong. One question, though- is the set screw on the cog-side > supposed to screw into the axle slot? > > Also, how tight should one tighten the right-side outmost nut on the > axle? Right side nut goes fully tight, then lock the right locknut's setscrew before the axle assembly is inserted into the hub. Do you have the correct bearing sizes? Bearing count? All is clean? No errant spring, pawl or O-Ring during assembly? These hubs adjust easily when all is clean and prepped properly. If there are no worn pieces, you are likely missing some small point of assembly, added an extra ball or some such. If the right side locknut wasn't tight and locked, it can't be adjusted. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 21 May 2007 19:27:09
From: Steve Gravrock
Subject: Re: Campagnolo 1998 Chorus Rear Hub- Adjustment Problems
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On 2007-05-21, porico@gmail.com <porico@gmail.com > wrote: > Hi, > > I am having problems adjusting my '98 Chorus rear hub. When doing > the preload adjustments, I can not get it to the point that there is a > bit of play when the quick release isn't tight, but no play when the > quick release is tight. Either it is too tight and feels rough, or it > is loose enough but has 2mm of play when the QR is tight. I have a very difficult time judging the adjustment that way. The amount of play with the QR released is tiny, and you're trying to feel it at the end of a very short lever. I've had much better luck adjusting the bearings with the approach deatailed at <http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=105 >: In short, you want to secure the wheel to one of the rear dropouts so that the wheel sits *outside* the rear triangle. That gives you access to the cone & locknut while the axle is compressed just as it will be in normal operation. You can judge play by wiggling the entire wheel rather than the little stub of axle that sticks out. Adjust the cone so you've just eliminated play, tighten the locknut against it, put everything back together, and go ride. Unless something's wrong with your hub you should get a perfect adjustment every time.
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Date: 21 May 2007 21:45:00
From: Sandy
Subject: Re: Campagnolo 1998 Chorus Rear Hub- Adjustment Problems
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Dans le message de news:slrnf53skd.p0h.usenet@panix1.panix.com, Steve Gravrock <usenet@sdg.users.panix.com > a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré : > On 2007-05-21, porico@gmail.com <porico@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am having problems adjusting my '98 Chorus rear hub. When doing >> the preload adjustments, I can not get it to the point that there is >> a bit of play when the quick release isn't tight, but no play when >> the quick release is tight. Either it is too tight and feels rough, >> or it is loose enough but has 2mm of play when the QR is tight. > > I have a very difficult time judging the adjustment that way. The > amount of play with the QR released is tiny, and you're trying to > feel it at the end of a very short lever. I've had much better luck > adjusting the bearings with the approach deatailed at > <http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=105>: > > In short, you want to secure the wheel to one of the rear dropouts so > that the wheel sits *outside* the rear triangle. That gives you access > to the cone & locknut while the axle is compressed just as it will be > in normal operation. You can judge play by wiggling the entire wheel > rather than the little stub of axle that sticks out. Adjust the cone > so you've just eliminated play, tighten the locknut against it, put > everything back together, and go ride. Unless something's wrong with > your hub you should get a perfect adjustment every time. As I remember it, my Chorus rear hub had a special, split locknut, with an crossing locking screw. It allowed for adjustment with the quick release in place, for just the issue you are caught up with. Are you sure yours is a '98 ? -- Bonne route ! Sandy Verneuil-sur-Seine FR
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Date: 21 May 2007 22:15:24
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Campagnolo 1998 Chorus Rear Hub- Adjustment Problems
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>> porico@gmail.com <porico@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I am having problems adjusting my '98 Chorus rear hub. When doing >>> the preload adjustments, I can not get it to the point that there is >>> a bit of play when the quick release isn't tight, but no play when >>> the quick release is tight. Either it is too tight and feels rough, >>> or it is loose enough but has 2mm of play when the QR is tight. > Steve Gravrock <usenet@sdg.users.panix.com> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré : >> I have a very difficult time judging the adjustment that way. The >> amount of play with the QR released is tiny, and you're trying to >> feel it at the end of a very short lever. I've had much better luck >> adjusting the bearings with the approach deatailed at >> <http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=105>: >> >> In short, you want to secure the wheel to one of the rear dropouts so >> that the wheel sits *outside* the rear triangle. That gives you access >> to the cone & locknut while the axle is compressed just as it will be >> in normal operation. You can judge play by wiggling the entire wheel >> rather than the little stub of axle that sticks out. Adjust the cone >> so you've just eliminated play, tighten the locknut against it, put >> everything back together, and go ride. Unless something's wrong with >> your hub you should get a perfect adjustment every time. Sandy wrote: > As I remember it, my Chorus rear hub had a special, split locknut, with an > crossing locking screw. It allowed for adjustment with the quick release in > place, for just the issue you are caught up with. Are you sure yours is a > '98 ? Yours is likely the 2000 & later type. 1998 is the 'old' threaded-cone-and-locknut type -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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