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Date: 01 Nov 2007 16:12:33
From: Jose
Subject: Chain / trouser protection?
Hi All,

I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about my
trousers getting from contact with the chain.

I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which
cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear
deraileur.
Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in
or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have
:-(

Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)??

Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers
clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above
mentioned?

I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd
prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the
likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry
about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride.

TIA,
Jose






 
Date: 03 Nov 2007 12:24:59
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
Heh-heh. The subject says "trouser".

Bill "slow afternoon" S.




 
Date: 03 Nov 2007 07:25:47
From: richard
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
Two issues:

1. Dirt

2. A loose cuff can get caught between the chain and chain ring. (So
can shoe laces.) Put on a chain guard, and it becomes that more
difficult to get untangled.

Not that although chain dirt can often be cleaned off, the jamming often
tears the cuff.

In other words, strap up your cuffs!

Jose wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about my
> trousers getting from contact with the chain.
>
> I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which
> cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear
> deraileur.
> Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in
> or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have
> :-(
>
> Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)??
>
> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers
> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above
> mentioned?
>
> I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd
> prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the
> likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry
> about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride.
>
> TIA,
> Jose
>
>


 
Date: 02 Nov 2007 14:28:28
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
SACRE BLUE!
have you forcotton les ciseaux
ciseaux zeee oooled sock und
slide zeeee uppair onto zeee heffair
ovah zeee pant lahg



 
Date: 02 Nov 2007 06:14:03
From: POHB
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On 1 Nov, 16:12, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote:
> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers
> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above
> mentioned?

Shorts



  
Date: 02 Nov 2007 21:12:39
From: John Thompson
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
["Followup-To:" header set to rec.bicycles.tech.]
On 2007-11-02, POHB <google@hayward.uk.net > wrote:

> On 1 Nov, 16:12, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote:
>> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers
>> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above
>> mentioned?

> Shorts

Not in this climate.

--

John (john@os2.dhs.org)


   
Date: 03 Nov 2007 16:49:30
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
in message <slrnfinm8n.a74.john@vector.os2.dhs.org >, John Thompson
('john@vector.os2.dhs.org') wrote:

> ["Followup-To:" header set to rec.bicycles.tech.]
> On 2007-11-02, POHB <google@hayward.uk.net> wrote:
>
>> On 1 Nov, 16:12, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote:
>>> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers
>>> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above
>>> mentioned?
>
>> Shorts
>
> Not in this climate.

What climate is that? Here in Scotland I'm still commuting in shorts.

--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

;; When your hammer is C++, everything begins to look like a thumb.



  
Date: 03 Nov 2007 00:00:48
From: Jose
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:14:03 -0700, POHB <google@hayward.uk.net >
wrote:

>On 1 Nov, 16:12, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote:
>> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers
>> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above
>> mentioned?
>
>Shorts


Gosh, no - my legs are too sexy for that, specially in the Winter!
The local police wouldn't be able to keep the peace in town LOL

Cheers,
Jose


  
Date: 02 Nov 2007 14:14:29
From: Matt O'Toole
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:14:03 -0700, POHB wrote:

> On 1 Nov, 16:12, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote:
>> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers
>> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above
>> mentioned?
>
> Shorts

During the "preppy" 80s, a lot of people wore dressy bermuda shorts to
work with a tie and a blazer. At least they did in southern CA. I hadn't
seen this look for awhile until I was in Charleston, SC recently, where I
saw several downtownies dressed this way, riding bikes of course.

How about knickers: http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/reviews/knickers/

I like the ones from www.swrve.com too.

Matt O.





 
Date: 02 Nov 2007 11:32:51
From: Rob Morley
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
In article <4729f6e3.14725171@news20.forteinc.com >, Jose
go.spam@somewhere.else says...
> Hi All,
>
> I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about my
> trousers getting from contact with the chain.
>
> I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which
> cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear
> deraileur.
> Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in
> or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have
> :-(
>
> Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)??
>
> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers
> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above
> mentioned?
>
> I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd
> prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the
> likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry
> about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride.
>
You don't say what sort of bike you have - if it has a front derailleur
it's not practical to fit any sort of chainguard apart from those
plastic discs that attach to the outer chainring, if it has a rear
derailleur it's not practical to fit a full length guard but you could
use a shorter one. If the bike has a hub gear it's an ideal candidate
for a chain guard, but as you've discovered one to fit it may not be
readily available in the shops. However it should be easy to have a
chainguard made to measure - just have a word with your local tinsmith
and see what he can come up with. Failing that, tucking trousers in
socks or rolling them up works for most people.


  
Date: 02 Nov 2007 23:58:39
From: Jose
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:32:51 -0000, Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com >
wrote:

Hi Rob,

>You don't say what sort of bike you have - if it has a front derailleur
>it's not practical to fit any sort of chainguard apart from those
>plastic discs that attach to the outer chainring

My bike has a front deraileur.
I've seen new Trek bikes for sale, with triple chainrings, and
chaingards (with a cut in the area where the front d. has to move.


> if it has a rear
>derailleur it's not practical to fit a full length guard but you could
>use a shorter one.

That depends on the type of attachement to the bike. The above
mentioned that I saw, had the chaingard go back to very near the
cassete.

Besides, that's so far behind, that my trousers won't get there.


> If the bike has a hub gear it's an ideal candidate
>for a chain guard, but as you've discovered one to fit it may not be
>readily available in the shops.

Maybe my next bike... The ChainGlider seems perfect, for such type of
bike.


> However it should be easy to have a
>chainguard made to measure - just have a word with your local tinsmith
>and see what he can come up with.

It just might be easier than getting my hands on one of those
exclusive to new, on the store, bikes.

Today I asked a fellow: If I buy this bike from you, and the next day
I fall down and break the chaingard, won't you order a new one for me?
Gess what he replied ;-(


> Failing that, tucking trousers in
>socks or rolling them up works for most people.

At this stage, the ruber elastic sounds attractive. I'll try it and
see what gives.

Cheers,
Jose



 
Date: 02 Nov 2007 10:52:40
From: dkahn400
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On Nov 2, 5:14 am, Doug Smith W9WI <w...@invalid.nospam > wrote:

> What I use... is the smallest dog collar I could find. Actually more
> like a cat collar, can't recall ever seeing a dog small enough for it to
> fit. Easy to remove without having to worry how one's going to get it
> past your shoe.

Back in the previous century we used to use toe straps. These give you
more of a hardened cyclist look than using tiny dog collars. You could
always use a cat collar which, in addition to keeping your trouser
legs out of the chain, would keep your legs clear of fleas and warn
pedestrians of your approach with the little tinkling bell.

--
Dave...




  
Date: 02 Nov 2007 16:32:06
From: Leo Lichtman
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
You know those plastic disks that are supposed to keep your deraileur out of
the spokes? Put them on your pedals.




  
Date: 02 Nov 2007 10:58:56
From: Dave Larrington
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
In news:1194000760.579616.68940@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com,
dkahn400 <dkahn400@googlemail.com > tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell us:
> On Nov 2, 5:14 am, Doug Smith W9WI <w...@invalid.nospam> wrote:
>
>> What I use... is the smallest dog collar I could find. Actually
>> more like a cat collar, can't recall ever seeing a dog small enough
>> for it to fit. Easy to remove without having to worry how one's
>> going to get it past your shoe.
>
> Back in the previous century we used to use toe straps. These give you
> more of a hardened cyclist look than using tiny dog collars.

Even in this century. I doned this on the way to the "bike check" at PBP.

Come to think of it, that was probably on Dave's advice :-)

--
Dave Larrington
<http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk >
And then there was light and He thought it was good, so He threw
the receipt away.




 
Date: 02 Nov 2007 02:45:41
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On Nov 1, 7:20 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net > wrote:

> Trouser clips are tradition among discerning bicyclists.
> No one will look askance. Wear them proudly.
>

http://tinyurl.com/3ybc86



  
Date: 02 Nov 2007 21:10:01
From: John Thompson
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
["Followup-To:" header set to rec.bicycles.tech.]

On 2007-11-02, landotter <landotter@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Nov 1, 7:20 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> Trouser clips are tradition among discerning bicyclists.
>> No one will look askance. Wear them proudly.

> http://tinyurl.com/3ybc86

And less than $2 for a pair! Ya can't beat that! Rugged spring steel
lasts for decades -- I've been using the same pair for over 30 years
now.

--

John (john@os2.dhs.org)


 
Date: 02 Nov 2007 00:20:09
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
In article <4729f6e3.14725171@news20.forteinc.com >,
go.spam@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about my
> trousers getting from contact with the chain.
>
> I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which
> cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear
> deraileur.
> Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in
> or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have
> :-(
>
> Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)??
>
> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers
> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above
> mentioned?
>
> I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd
> prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the
> likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry
> about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride.

Trouser clips are tradition among discerning bicyclists.
No one will look askance. Wear them proudly.

--
Michael Press


  
Date: 02 Nov 2007 13:58:04
From: Matt O'Toole
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:20:09 +0000, Michael Press wrote:

> Trouser clips are tradition among discerning bicyclists. No one will
> look askance. Wear them proudly.

Everyone used to wear them, but I haven't seen them in a bike shop for 20
years.

Matt O.


   
Date: 05 Nov 2007 19:14:57
From: Roger Merriman
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
Matt O'Toole <mattotoole@letterboxes.org > wrote:

> On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:20:09 +0000, Michael Press wrote:
>
> > Trouser clips are tradition among discerning bicyclists. No one will
> > look askance. Wear them proudly.
>
> Everyone used to wear them, but I haven't seen them in a bike shop for 20
> years.
>
> Matt O.

bought some a few weeks ago at my local bike shop...

roger
--
www.rogermerriman.com


   
Date: 03 Nov 2007 05:10:51
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
In article
<pan.2007.11.02.17.57.55.263427@letterboxes.org >,
Matt O'Toole <mattotoole@letterboxes.org > wrote:

> On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:20:09 +0000, Michael Press wrote:
>
> > Trouser clips are tradition among discerning bicyclists. No one will
> > look askance. Wear them proudly.
>
> Everyone used to wear them, but I haven't seen them in a bike shop for 20
> years.

I found them around here recently.

--
Michael Press


   
Date: 02 Nov 2007 18:26:48
From: marc
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
Matt O'Toole wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:20:09 +0000, Michael Press wrote:
>
>> Trouser clips are tradition among discerning bicyclists. No one will
>> look askance. Wear them proudly.
>
> Everyone used to wear them, but I haven't seen them in a bike shop for 20
> years.

Tescos


  
Date: 02 Nov 2007 10:19:51
From: Marc Brett
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:20:09 GMT, Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net >
wrote:

>Trouser clips are tradition among discerning bicyclists.
>No one will look askance. Wear them proudly.

My elders and betters tell tales of when they were children, the village
policemen rode bicycles. Their bicycle clips were more like over-sized
paper clips or money clips, worn vertically, and simply held together
the fold in their trousers.

The great advantage of this design is that the ankles weren't pinched,
and it also preserved that smartly-dressed appearance, even off the
bike.

Are they still available for sale, I wonder?



   
Date: 02 Nov 2007 11:50:41
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
> Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> Trouser clips are tradition among discerning bicyclists.
>> No one will look askance. Wear them proudly.

Marc Brett wrote:
> My elders and betters tell tales of when they were children, the village
> policemen rode bicycles. Their bicycle clips were more like over-sized
> paper clips or money clips, worn vertically, and simply held together
> the fold in their trousers.
> The great advantage of this design is that the ankles weren't pinched,
> and it also preserved that smartly-dressed appearance, even off the
> bike.
> Are they still available for sale, I wonder?

Sure, call me in 1976.
Vintage Terry's chromed trouser clips, Made in England of chromed
British steel, are a sartorial coup for the natty rider on any club ride.
I used four to hold the door liner in my MGB. I think they went to scrap
with it.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


 
Date: 01 Nov 2007 14:45:18
From: mountaingirl
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On Nov 1, 9:29?pm, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:46:03 -0000, "Clive George"
>
> <cl...@xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >Long socks, or rolling the trousers up, works for me. Since my collection of
>
> Hey, rolling the trousers up seems like a good idea to me - efective,
> and kinda sexy too! ;-))
>
> How couldn't I think of that before?!
>
Whatever floats your boat.
Cheers
Em



 
Date: 01 Nov 2007 20:15:24
From:
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On Nov 1, 9:49 am, "(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid > wrote:
> Per Jose:
>
> >Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in
> >or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have
> >:-(
>
> >Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)??
>
> >Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers
> >clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above
> >mentioned?
>
> 11" black socks: tuck the pants into the sock.

It has to be black ?!?



  
Date: 01 Nov 2007 21:53:09
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Mount front brakes on rear?
_ wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:08:07 +0100, James Thomson wrote:
>
>>>> What should I be measuring?
>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> a �crit:
>>
>>> distance between the front tips of the brake pads with the caliper
>>> open vs. caliper closed, and for the rear tips, open vs closed. when
>>> open, the front tips are further apart than the rears. when closed,
>>> the front tips are closer than the rears. [front caliper]
>> I'm using the moulding seam of the brake block at the point it touches the
>> holder as a reference point on the Ultegra 6500 brakes, and (in the absence
>> of a convenient moulding mark) trying to pick a consistent point on the
>> Centaur pad holder. The measurements are repeatable to within about 1mm, and
>> I can't detect any sign of the effect you say is there.
>>
>> James Thomson
>
> Either beam's bushings are worn or the arms are loose on the pivots - that
> was already pointed out.

no, these are new calipers - in perfect condition.

> It's impossible for an arm to pivot on a
> cylindrical bushing and change the axis of rotation without another pivot
> (which is, in essemce, what beamboy is claiming).

no it's not. it's a simple geometry problem. you not figuring it out
doesn't mean it's impossible - after all, it is observed to be happening.


   
Date: 02 Nov 2007 08:29:28
From: _
Subject: Re: Mount front brakes on rear?
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:53:09 -0700, jim beam wrote:


>> It's impossible for an arm to pivot on a
>> cylindrical bushing and change the axis of rotation without another pivot
>> (which is, in essemce, what beamboy is claiming).
>
> no it's not. it's a simple geometry problem. you not figuring it out
> doesn't mean it's impossible - after all, it is observed to be happening.

Only in your world. In the real world, others have measured and found no
such change.


  
Date: 02 Nov 2007 02:12:11
From: Leo Lichtman
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?

<doug.landau@gmail.com > wrote: It has to be black ?!?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No, in time it will turn black.




  
Date: 01 Nov 2007 17:42:43
From: (PeteCresswell)
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
Per doug.landau@gmail.com:
>It has to be black ?!?

Actually mine are white.

But they do get greasy.

Also, wearing white sox to work may get one accused of
impersonating an engineer.
--
PeteCresswell


   
Date: 03 Nov 2007 16:13:03
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
Pete Cresswell wrote:
> Per doug.landau@gmail.com:
>> It has to be black ?!?
>
> Actually mine are white.
>
> But they do get greasy.
>
> Also, wearing white sox to work may get one accused of
> impersonating an engineer.

The solution to that problem is to be an engineer.

(Yes, I wear white socks [1] to work).

[1] White Sox is a baseball team.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
When did ignorance of biology become a "family value"?


  
Date: 01 Nov 2007 16:04:06
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
>> Per Jose:
>>> Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in
>>> or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have
>>> :-(
>>> Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)??
>>> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers
>>> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above
>>> mentioned?

> "(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid> wrote:
>> 11" black socks: tuck the pants into the sock.

doug.landau@gmail.com wrote:
> It has to be black ?!?

White shows chain
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


  
Date: 01 Nov 2007 20:49:44
From: marc
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
doug.landau@gmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 1, 9:49 am, "(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid> wrote:
>> Per Jose:
>>
>>> Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in
>>> or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have
>>> :-(
>>> Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)??
>>> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers
>>> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above
>>> mentioned?
>> 11" black socks: tuck the pants into the sock.
>
> It has to be black ?!?
>
Of course, so that it doesn't show the chain stain !


 
Date: 01 Nov 2007 18:56:33
From: jbollyn@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On Nov 1, 11:12 am, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about my
> trousers getting from contact with the chain.
>
> I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which
> cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear
> deraileur.
> Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in
> or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have
> :-(
>
> Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)??
>
> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers
> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above
> mentioned?
>
> I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd
> prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the
> likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry
> about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride.
>
> TIA,
> Jose

I use a rubber band on each cuff. The post office delivers mail to my
employer using them to bundle, just the right size, 1/4 inch wide.



  
Date: 01 Nov 2007 17:56:29
From: Jay
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?

<jbollyn@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1193943393.484705.38530@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 1, 11:12 am, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about my
>> trousers getting from contact with the chain.
>>
>> I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which
>> cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear
>> deraileur.
>> Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in
>> or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have
>> :-(
>>
>> Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)??
>>
>> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers
>> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above
>> mentioned?
>>
>> I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd
>> prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the
>> likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry
>> about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride.
>>
>> TIA,
>> Jose
>
> I use a rubber band on each cuff. The post office delivers mail to my
> employer using them to bundle, just the right size, 1/4 inch wide.
>
PS:

I guess my rubber bands do not merit style points, but I think I am in the
running for the lowest weight solution, and lowest $.

- Frugal Jay the Minimalist




   
Date: 02 Nov 2007 23:45:48
From: Jose
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:56:29 -0500, "Jay" <jbollyn@gmail.com > wrote:

>I guess my rubber bands do not merit style points, but I think I am in the
>running for the lowest weight solution, and lowest $.

On seconf thoughts, I may begin to like your solution: even if I keep
loosing the elastic bands - like I've done with the velcro straps,
they're so cheap, that I really couldn't care much.

Thanks Jay!


    
Date: 03 Nov 2007 08:41:11
From: Doc O'Leary
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
In article <472db607.47590015@news20.forteinc.com >,
go.spam@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:56:29 -0500, "Jay" <jbollyn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I guess my rubber bands do not merit style points, but I think I am in the
> >running for the lowest weight solution, and lowest $.
>
> On seconf thoughts, I may begin to like your solution: even if I keep
> loosing the elastic bands - like I've done with the velcro straps,
> they're so cheap, that I really couldn't care much.

I tend to use the (standard?) black binder clips. Folding over the
pants legs and clipping on the inside makes it practically invisible, if
you care about that sort of thing.

If you care about keeping the entire lower leg clean, you could butcher
an old pair of cycling tights (or even a similar pair of pants) to get
something that goes just from calf to foot. Leg warmers could serve the
same purpose, if you don't mind looking a bit silly.

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Date: 02 Nov 2007 19:17:06
From: Jay
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?

"Jose" <go.spam@somewhere.else > wrote in message
news:472db607.47590015@news20.forteinc.com...
> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:56:29 -0500, "Jay" <jbollyn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I guess my rubber bands do not merit style points, but I think I am in the
>>running for the lowest weight solution, and lowest $.
>
> On seconf thoughts, I may begin to like your solution: even if I keep
> loosing the elastic bands - like I've done with the velcro straps,
> they're so cheap, that I really couldn't care much.
>
> Thanks Jay!

You are right, that is how I look at it. I am a little surprised that more
RBT / RBM regulars do not use rubber bands. Perhaps they would need to
actually buy the rubber bands, which would obviously be a negative. In my
case, we get a million of these rubber bands, which have a fairly short life
span. They dry out, I guess. At some point, you stretch them, and they snap.
So what. I use a spare, and I am on my way.

I have some velcro stuff, but I find the sound annoying. I avoid velcro if
there is a good alternative.

J.




     
Date: 03 Nov 2007 01:32:53
From: Pete Biggs
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
Jay wrote:
> "Jose" <go.spam@somewhere.else> wrote in message
> news:472db607.47590015@news20.forteinc.com...
>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:56:29 -0500, "Jay" <jbollyn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I guess my rubber bands do not merit style points, but I think I am
>>> in the running for the lowest weight solution, and lowest $.
>>
>> On seconf thoughts, I may begin to like your solution: even if I keep
>> loosing the elastic bands - like I've done with the velcro straps,
>> they're so cheap, that I really couldn't care much.
>>
>> Thanks Jay!
>
> You are right, that is how I look at it. I am a little surprised that
> more RBT / RBM regulars do not use rubber bands. Perhaps they would
> need to actually buy the rubber bands, which would obviously be a
> negative. In my case, we get a million of these rubber bands, which
> have a fairly short life span. They dry out, I guess.

The red Royal Mail ones are UV-degradeable. Might explain why so many are
dropped on the ground and quickly disintegrate.

> At some point,
> you stretch them, and they snap. So what. I use a spare, and I am on
> my way.

Rubber bands are such an obvious solution that I suspect we've all tried
them. I find they have to be uncomfortably tight to stay put. Mind your
blood circulation!

~PB




      
Date: 05 Nov 2007 19:14:57
From: Roger Merriman
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
Pete Biggs <p@pomegranateremovehighlyimpracticalfruitbiggs.tc > wrote:

> Jay wrote:
> > "Jose" <go.spam@somewhere.else> wrote in message
> > news:472db607.47590015@news20.forteinc.com...
> >> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:56:29 -0500, "Jay" <jbollyn@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I guess my rubber bands do not merit style points, but I think I am
> >>> in the running for the lowest weight solution, and lowest $.
> >>
> >> On seconf thoughts, I may begin to like your solution: even if I keep
> >> loosing the elastic bands - like I've done with the velcro straps,
> >> they're so cheap, that I really couldn't care much.
> >>
> >> Thanks Jay!
> >
> > You are right, that is how I look at it. I am a little surprised that
> > more RBT / RBM regulars do not use rubber bands. Perhaps they would
> > need to actually buy the rubber bands, which would obviously be a
> > negative. In my case, we get a million of these rubber bands, which
> > have a fairly short life span. They dry out, I guess.
>
> The red Royal Mail ones are UV-degradeable. Might explain why so many are
> dropped on the ground and quickly disintegrate.
>
last i heard they where red so they could be spotted than degradeable,
though they are, a weaker band than the older normal bands RM used to
use is fairly evident.


>
> ~PB

roger
--
www.rogermerriman.com


      
Date: 03 Nov 2007 12:06:01
From: Jay
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?

"Pete Biggs" <p@pomegranateremovehighlyimpracticalfruitbiggs.tc > wrote in
message news:5p21f5FovpcdU1@mid.individual.net...
> Jay wrote:
>> "Jose" <go.spam@somewhere.else> wrote in message
>> news:472db607.47590015@news20.forteinc.com...
>>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:56:29 -0500, "Jay" <jbollyn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I guess my rubber bands do not merit style points, but I think I am
>>>> in the running for the lowest weight solution, and lowest $.
>>>
>>> On seconf thoughts, I may begin to like your solution: even if I keep
>>> loosing the elastic bands - like I've done with the velcro straps,
>>> they're so cheap, that I really couldn't care much.
>>>
>>> Thanks Jay!
>>
>> You are right, that is how I look at it. I am a little surprised that
>> more RBT / RBM regulars do not use rubber bands. Perhaps they would
>> need to actually buy the rubber bands, which would obviously be a
>> negative. In my case, we get a million of these rubber bands, which
>> have a fairly short life span. They dry out, I guess.
>
> The red Royal Mail ones are UV-degradeable. Might explain why so many are
> dropped on the ground and quickly disintegrate.
>
>> At some point,
>> you stretch them, and they snap. So what. I use a spare, and I am on
>> my way.
>
> Rubber bands are such an obvious solution that I suspect we've all tried
> them. I find they have to be uncomfortably tight to stay put. Mind your
> blood circulation!
>
> ~PB
I suggest you have not found the correct size for your comfort. Here is a
company http://www.bigwigbands.com/rb_sizes.html which has 15 different
standard sizes in the 1/4" width. The size I like is, I think, 3 1/2" long
(unstretched). Note also the different thicknesses. So the perceived
tightness on your ankle varies by both the band length and the thickness.

J.




   
Date: 01 Nov 2007 23:10:30
From:
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
Jay wrote:
> PS:
>
> I guess my rubber bands do not merit style points, but I think I am in the
> running for the lowest weight solution, and lowest $.

If you take the trousers off you'd be into negative weight ...


-dan


    
Date: 01 Nov 2007 18:18:44
From: Jay
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?

<dan@telent.net > wrote in message
news:472a5ce6$0$13935$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk...
> Jay wrote:
>> PS:
>>
>> I guess my rubber bands do not merit style points, but I think I am in
>> the running for the lowest weight solution, and lowest $.
>
> If you take the trousers off you'd be into negative weight ...
>
>
> -dan

Great suggestion for July, but it is November, and I am in Chicago.

J.




 
Date: 01 Nov 2007 17:46:03
From: Clive George
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
"Jose" <go.spam@somewhere.else > wrote in message
news:4729f6e3.14725171@news20.forteinc.com...

> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers
> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above
> mentioned?

Long socks, or rolling the trousers up, works for me. Since my collection of
the former has shrunk, I do the latter a lot more these days - but then I'm
not terribly fashion conscious.

cheers,
clive



  
Date: 01 Nov 2007 21:29:31
From: Jose
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:46:03 -0000, "Clive George"
<clive@xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk > wrote:

>Long socks, or rolling the trousers up, works for me. Since my collection of

Hey, rolling the trousers up seems like a good idea to me - efective,
and kinda sexy too! ;-))

How couldn't I think of that before?!

Thanks!
Jose



 
Date: 01 Nov 2007 17:42:44
From: Peter Fox
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
> I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd
> prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the
> likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry
> about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride.
Despite the sarcastic nature of the replies (what did you expect) the advice to fasten
trousers is sound. If not, the bottom hem is rubbed against /something/ every revolution
and frays.

The second thing is /never/ to _oil_ the chain as this serves to pick up dirt as well of
course spoil your apparel. Wax seems to work. There's no such thing as a clean chain but
an _oily_ one will be filthy.

Finally, your cycling gear is a badge that lets everyone know you are a care-naught, sleek
street streaker and bit of mean muscle.


--
Peter Fox
Beer, dancing, cycling and lots more at www.eminent.demon.co.uk



  
Date: 01 Nov 2007 21:25:00
From: Jose
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:42:44 +0000, Peter Fox
<pf-0507@eminent.demon.co.uk > wrote:

>trousers is sound. If not, the bottom hem is rubbed against /something/ every revolution
>and frays.

Well, I prefer frayed rather than chain oil tatued ;-)


>The second thing is /never/ to _oil_ the chain as this serves to pick up dirt as well of
>course spoil your apparel. Wax seems to work. There's no such thing as a clean chain but
>an _oily_ one will be filthy.

I still think that oil is a better lubrication solution than
wax/grease, but when trouser staining comes into the equation, you
might be right, and I might choose to replace my chains more often,
and replace my trousers not so often .

Thanks,
Jose



  
Date: 01 Nov 2007 18:43:58
From: Nick
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
Peter Fox wrote:
>> I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd
>> prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the
>> likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry
>> about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride.
> Despite the sarcastic nature of the replies (what did you expect) the
> advice to fasten trousers is sound. If not, the bottom hem is rubbed
> against /something/ every revolution and frays.
>
> The second thing is /never/ to _oil_ the chain as this serves to pick up
> dirt as well of course spoil your apparel. Wax seems to work. There's
> no such thing as a clean chain but an _oily_ one will be filthy.
>

Yep this works - bicycle clips and wax on the chain.

However wax is a crap lubricant so it is also a good idea to replace
chains regularly.

But with 8 speed chains at £4.00 (with powerlinks) it is so cheap and
easy to replace a chain you may want to forget lubricating altogether
and just change your chain every couple of months.


> Finally, your cycling gear is a badge that lets everyone know you are a
> care-naught, sleek street streaker and bit of mean muscle.
>
>


   
Date: 02 Nov 2007 10:22:05
From: marc
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
Nick wrote:
> Peter Fox wrote:
>>> I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd
>>> prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the
>>> likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry
>>> about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride.
>> Despite the sarcastic nature of the replies (what did you expect) the
>> advice to fasten trousers is sound. If not, the bottom hem is rubbed
>> against /something/ every revolution and frays.
>>
>> The second thing is /never/ to _oil_ the chain as this serves to pick
>> up dirt as well of course spoil your apparel. Wax seems to work.
>> There's no such thing as a clean chain but an _oily_ one will be filthy.
>>
>
> Yep this works - bicycle clips and wax on the chain.
>
> However wax is a crap lubricant so it is also a good idea to replace
> chains regularly.
>
If wax is a " crap lubricant" ( not admitted) then why use it?


    
Date: 02 Nov 2007 11:00:48
From: Nick
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
marc wrote:
> Nick wrote:
>> Peter Fox wrote:
>>>> I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd
>>>> prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the
>>>> likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry
>>>> about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride.
>>> Despite the sarcastic nature of the replies (what did you expect) the
>>> advice to fasten trousers is sound. If not, the bottom hem is rubbed
>>> against /something/ every revolution and frays.
>>>
>>> The second thing is /never/ to _oil_ the chain as this serves to pick
>>> up dirt as well of course spoil your apparel. Wax seems to work.
>>> There's no such thing as a clean chain but an _oily_ one will be filthy.
>>>
>>
>> Yep this works - bicycle clips and wax on the chain.
>>
>> However wax is a crap lubricant so it is also a good idea to replace
>> chains regularly.
>>
> If wax is a " crap lubricant" ( not admitted) then why use it?

Because it doesn't attract the dirt like oil does.


 
Date: 01 Nov 2007 12:55:46
From: Matt O'Toole
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:12:33 +0000, Jose wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about my
> trousers getting from contact with the chain.
>
> I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which cover
> the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear deraileur.
> Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in or
> capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have :-(
>
> Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)??
>
> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers clean
> and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above
> mentioned?
>
> I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd
> prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the
> likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry
> about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride.

Jose,

Good question about chainguards. I don't understand why no one is selling
them, especially with new bikes made for commuting. There are dozens of
bikes with internal gear hubs now, the whole point being that they can be
used with chainguards -- yet they have no chainguards.

I've never seen an add-on chainguard for sale in the US.

Personally I use a safety pin to cinch down my trouser cuff, or a "slap
bracelet" reflective ankle band that VDOT gives out for free. I still
have the occasional mishap though.

One of the best things about living in a college town is that no one cares
what a dork you look like, with things wrapped around your ankle.

Matt O.



  
Date: 01 Nov 2007 18:05:40
From: Tim McNamara
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
In article <pan.2007.11.01.16.55.30.174402@letterboxes.org >,
Matt O'Toole <mattotoole@letterboxes.org > wrote:

> On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:12:33 +0000, Jose wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about
> > my trousers getting from contact with the chain.
> >
> > I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which
> > cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear
> > deraileur. Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either
> > interested in or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting
> > the I already have :-(
> >
> > Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)??
> >
> > Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers
> > clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection
> > above mentioned?
> >
> > I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd
> > prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the
> > likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to
> > worry about performing yet that extra step before being able to
> > ride.
>
> Jose,
>
> Good question about chainguards. I don't understand why no one is
> selling them, especially with new bikes made for commuting. There
> are dozens of bikes with internal gear hubs now, the whole point
> being that they can be used with chainguards -- yet they have no
> chainguards.

I have seen several bikes at the LBS with a chain guard- Breezers and
ANTs, to be specific (but the latter is a semi-custom builder).

> I've never seen an add-on chainguard for sale in the US.

You are buy several different ones through Quality, etc. But chaincases
are harder to find especially in the US. Part of the problem, of
course, is that accommodating derailleurs and multiple chainrings and
multi-cog cassette is very difficult in designing a chain guard or a
chain case.

For hub gears/single speeds, the Hebie Chainglider has received good
reviews. If I was going to go for a covered-chain system, I'd use this
one on my three speed "club" bike:

http://www.hebie.de/html/en/detail_schuetze.php?id=0350

> Personally I use a safety pin to cinch down my trouser cuff, or a
> "slap bracelet" reflective ankle band that VDOT gives out for free.
> I still have the occasional mishap though.

Nothing is perfect.

> One of the best things about living in a college town is that no one
> cares what a dork you look like, with things wrapped around your
> ankle.

LOL!


  
Date: 01 Nov 2007 19:59:46
From: still me
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:55:46 -0400, Matt O'Toole
<mattotoole@letterboxes.org > wrote:

>One of the best things about living in a college town is that no one cares
>what a dork you look like, with things wrapped around your ankle.
>
>Matt O.

Ah... we've been meaning to talk to you about that...


 
Date: 01 Nov 2007 16:54:01
From: Pete Biggs
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
Jose wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about my
> trousers getting from contact with the chain.
>
> I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which
> cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear
> deraileur.
> Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in
> or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have
> :-(
>
> Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)??
>
> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers
> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above
> mentioned?
>
> I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd
> prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the
> likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry
> about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride.

Chain guards can be difficult to fit well, and they interfere with
maintenance.

They're of limited use anyway. Unfastened trouser bottoms get dirty even
when the bike has a full chain guard - because the outside of the guard and
cranks quickly get dirty from road dust and muck.

Using clips or tucking trousers into socks might look silly but is not
really much trouble. Plus your ankles will be warmer and more aerodynamic
:-)

~PB




  
Date: 01 Nov 2007 21:19:10
From: Jose
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:54:01 -0000, "Pete Biggs"
<p@pomegranateremovehighlyimpracticalfruitbiggs.tc > wrote:

>They're of limited use anyway. Unfastened trouser bottoms get dirty even
>when the bike has a full chain guard - because the outside of the guard and
>cranks quickly get dirty from road dust and muck.

I still think that an oily chain is far, far worse - besides, I still
haven't foiund a way to wash out a chain oil mark from trousers -
short of using a pair of scisors, that is ;-P


>Using clips or tucking trousers into socks might look silly but is not
>really much trouble. Plus your ankles will be warmer and more aerodynamic

I've tried that before. Trouble is that clips or the velcro fasteners
would only last 1 ride - after that I could never remember where I had
stored them :-(

Regards,
Jose


   
Date: 03 Nov 2007 16:28:06
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
Jose who? wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:54:01 -0000, "Pete Biggs"
> <p@pomegranateremovehighlyimpracticalfruitbiggs.tc> wrote:
>
>> They're of limited use anyway. Unfastened trouser bottoms get dirty even
>> when the bike has a full chain guard - because the outside of the guard and
>> cranks quickly get dirty from road dust and muck.
>
> I still think that an oily chain is far, far worse - besides, I still
> haven't foiund a way to wash out a chain oil mark from trousers -
> short of using a pair of scisors, that is ;-P
>
>
>> Using clips or tucking trousers into socks might look silly but is not
>> really much trouble. Plus your ankles will be warmer and more aerodynamic
>
> I've tried that before. Trouble is that clips or the velcro fasteners
> would only last 1 ride - after that I could never remember where I had
> stored them :-(

I always store pant clips and cycling gloves by hanging them from the
handlebars of the bicycle.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
When did ignorance of biology become a "family value"?


   
Date: 03 Nov 2007 18:29:22
From: Rob Morley
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
In article <472d41fc.33950031@news20.forteinc.com >, Jose
go.spam@somewhere.else says...

> I've tried that before. Trouble is that clips or the velcro fasteners
> would only last 1 ride - after that I could never remember where I had
> stored them :-(
>
Hint - velcro straps can be attached to various parts of the bike. :-)


    
Date: 05 Nov 2007 00:32:45
From: Jose
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:29:22 -0000, Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com >
wrote:

>Hint - velcro straps can be attached to various parts of the bike. :-)

Indeed, I'm planning on losening the pant and tight the strap around
the leg while doing my errands, and around the handlebar or the top
tube, once back into the garage or while riding without jeans.

Thanks,
Jose



   
Date: 01 Nov 2007 21:44:25
From: Pete Biggs
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
Jose wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:54:01 -0000, "Pete Biggs"
> <p@pomegranateremovehighlyimpracticalfruitbiggs.tc> wrote:
>
>> They're of limited use anyway. Unfastened trouser bottoms get dirty
>> even when the bike has a full chain guard - because the outside of
>> the guard and cranks quickly get dirty from road dust and muck.
>
> I still think that an oily chain is far, far worse - besides, I still
> haven't foiund a way to wash out a chain oil mark from trousers -
> short of using a pair of scisors, that is ;-P

Of course oil is far worse, but you don't get any dirt at all from the bike
on your trousers if they are fastened or tucked in.

Personally, even if I didn't mind the dirt, I wouldn't like the
flapping-around feeling and worry about the trousers getting caught in
/something/ - on the left as well as right side.

But if you don't care, good luck with your chainguard! Let us know how well
it fits your bike and chainset.

~PB




    
Date: 02 Nov 2007 23:28:44
From: Jose
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:44:25 -0000, "Pete Biggs"
<p@pomegranateremovehighlyimpracticalfruitbiggs.tc > wrote:

>Personally, even if I didn't mind the dirt, I wouldn't like the
>flapping-around feeling and worry about the trousers getting caught in
>/something/ - on the left as well as right side.

I'm looking for a better situation, not a perfect solution.

I often cycle wearing training trousers, and with a plastic protection
around the larger chainring, they haven't got caught anywhere, so far.

The traing trousers get stained by the chain, but I couldn't care
less. What I'm concerned about is the jeans that I wear for going
just down to the post office, the bank, the pharmacy, etc.


>But if you don't care, good luck with your chainguard! Let us know how well
>it fits your bike and chainset.

I'm inclined to give it another try with the velcro strap, or cat/dog
collar, and leave it on the bike - so that I always know were I have
it, which has been my major problem with that so far, as I keep losing
one after another.

If that still fails, for whatever reason, I'll definitelly go for a
long chaingard - if they fit new bikes I see all the time for sale,
why wouldn't it fit bike?? I'll chop it, drill it, extend it,
whatever necessary, but it *will* fit my bike.

Good luck with your pants, too.

Jose


 
Date: 01 Nov 2007 12:49:35
From: (PeteCresswell)
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
Per Jose:
>Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in
>or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have
>:-(
>
>Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)??
>
>Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers
>clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above
>mentioned?

11" black socks: tuck the pants into the sock.

Chain guards are probably a good thing, but my experience is that
an open cuff finds other ways to get dirty. Also, every so
often, it catches on the crank arm.
--
PeteCresswell


 
Date: 01 Nov 2007 16:36:45
From: Scott Gordo
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On Nov 1, 12:12 pm, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about my
> trousers getting from contact with the chain.
>
> I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which
> cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear
> deraileur.
> Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in
> or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have
> :-(
>
> Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)??
>
> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers
> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above
> mentioned?
>
> I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd
> prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the
> likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry
> about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride.
>
> TIA,
> Jose

Aha! You must be inquiring about my ingenious invention called Le
Sock.

Instructions:

1. Put Le Sock on your foot.
2. Pull pants over your legs.
3. On drive side leg, roll the specially formulated ElastoCycleCuff of
Le Sock down to your ankle.
4. Fold the bottom of your pant leg into a pleat, tight around the
ankle.
5. Pull ElastoCycleCuff over pant leg.
6. Repeat on non-drive side leg.
7. Presto!

Best of all, my distributor has Le Sock in just about any location you
can think of, and in as many different styles as you can imagine.
Email me a check for $20 and I'll tell you where you can find a pair.

/s



  
Date: 02 Nov 2007 11:29:02
From: Allan
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
Scott Gordo wrote:
>
> On Nov 1, 12:12 pm, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about my
> > trousers getting from contact with the chain.
> >
> > I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which
> > cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear
> > deraileur.
> > Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in
> > or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have
> > :-(
> >
> > Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)??
> >
> > Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers
> > clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above
> > mentioned?
> >
> > I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd
> > prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the
> > likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry
> > about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Jose
>
> Aha! You must be inquiring about my ingenious invention called Le
> Sock.
>
> Instructions:
>
> 1. Put Le Sock on your foot.
> 2. Pull pants over your legs.
> 3. On drive side leg, roll the specially formulated ElastoCycleCuff of
> Le Sock down to your ankle.
> 4. Fold the bottom of your pant leg into a pleat, tight around the
> ankle.
> 5. Pull ElastoCycleCuff over pant leg.
> 6. Repeat on non-drive side leg.
> 7. Presto!
>
> Best of all, my distributor has Le Sock in just about any location you
> can think of, and in as many different styles as you can imagine.
> Email me a check for $20 and I'll tell you where you can find a pair.
>
> /s

Ah Le Sock the cheap imitation of the iSock - only available in white
from Banana, Although third parties have started producing the iSock
sock a knitted material protective covering for your iSock available in
a variety of colours.


Sorry its Friday :-)

Allan


  
Date: 02 Nov 2007 02:07:28
From: Leo Lichtman
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?

"Scott Gordo" wrote: (clip) Email me a check for $20 and I'll tell you
where you can find a pair.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Your check is in the e-mail.




 
Date: 01 Nov 2007 12:27:38
From: David L. Johnson
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
Jose wrote:

> I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd
> prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the
> likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry
> about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride.

I use velcro'd straps around both ankles, and it works well. They are
reflective, which is also good. Keeping the pants away not just from
the chain, but also (on the left side) keeping the pants from catching
on the frame and/or wheel. I think they do more than a chainguard
would, without the additional hassles involved in keeping the chainguard
from rubbing or rattling, and getting it out of the way when changing a
tire.


--

David L. Johnson

It doesn't get any easier, you just go faster.
--Greg LeMond


 
Date: 01 Nov 2007 09:19:15
From: bookieb
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On Nov 1, 4:12 pm, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote:
<snip >
> I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which
> cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear
> deraileur.
> Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in
> or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have
> :-(
>
> Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)??
>
<snip >
> TIA,
> Jose

One available here:

http://www.roseversand.de/output/controller.aspx?cid=156&detail=10&detail2=7181

desicribed as suitable for a triple chainring.

I've purchased stuff mail order from these guys before - good service
so far.

hth,

bookieb.



  
Date: 01 Nov 2007 21:11:20
From: Jose
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:19:15 -0700, bookieb <tsgtesting@yahoo.co.uk >
wrote:

>One available here:
>
>http://www.roseversand.de/output/controller.aspx?cid=156&detail=10&detail2=7181
>
>desicribed as suitable for a triple chainring.


Thank you, this seems the kind of thing I'm looking for!

Best,
Jose