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Date: 01 Nov 2007 16:12:33
From: Jose
Subject: Chain / trouser protection?
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Hi All, I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about my trousers getting from contact with the chain. I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear deraileur. Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have :-( Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)?? Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above mentioned? I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride. TIA, Jose
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Date: 03 Nov 2007 12:24:59
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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Heh-heh. The subject says "trouser". Bill "slow afternoon" S.
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Date: 03 Nov 2007 07:25:47
From: richard
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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Two issues: 1. Dirt 2. A loose cuff can get caught between the chain and chain ring. (So can shoe laces.) Put on a chain guard, and it becomes that more difficult to get untangled. Not that although chain dirt can often be cleaned off, the jamming often tears the cuff. In other words, strap up your cuffs! Jose wrote: > Hi All, > > I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about my > trousers getting from contact with the chain. > > I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which > cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear > deraileur. > Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in > or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have > :-( > > Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)?? > > Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers > clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above > mentioned? > > I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd > prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the > likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry > about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride. > > TIA, > Jose > >
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 14:28:28
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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SACRE BLUE! have you forcotton les ciseaux ciseaux zeee oooled sock und slide zeeee uppair onto zeee heffair ovah zeee pant lahg
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 06:14:03
From: POHB
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On 1 Nov, 16:12, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote: > Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers > clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above > mentioned? Shorts
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 21:12:39
From: John Thompson
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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["Followup-To:" header set to rec.bicycles.tech.] On 2007-11-02, POHB <google@hayward.uk.net > wrote: > On 1 Nov, 16:12, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote: >> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers >> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above >> mentioned? > Shorts Not in this climate. -- John (john@os2.dhs.org)
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Date: 03 Nov 2007 16:49:30
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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in message <slrnfinm8n.a74.john@vector.os2.dhs.org >, John Thompson ('john@vector.os2.dhs.org') wrote: > ["Followup-To:" header set to rec.bicycles.tech.] > On 2007-11-02, POHB <google@hayward.uk.net> wrote: > >> On 1 Nov, 16:12, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote: >>> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers >>> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above >>> mentioned? > >> Shorts > > Not in this climate. What climate is that? Here in Scotland I'm still commuting in shorts. -- simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ ;; When your hammer is C++, everything begins to look like a thumb.
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Date: 03 Nov 2007 00:00:48
From: Jose
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:14:03 -0700, POHB <google@hayward.uk.net > wrote: >On 1 Nov, 16:12, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote: >> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers >> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above >> mentioned? > >Shorts Gosh, no - my legs are too sexy for that, specially in the Winter! The local police wouldn't be able to keep the peace in town LOL Cheers, Jose
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 14:14:29
From: Matt O'Toole
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:14:03 -0700, POHB wrote: > On 1 Nov, 16:12, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote: >> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers >> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above >> mentioned? > > Shorts During the "preppy" 80s, a lot of people wore dressy bermuda shorts to work with a tie and a blazer. At least they did in southern CA. I hadn't seen this look for awhile until I was in Charleston, SC recently, where I saw several downtownies dressed this way, riding bikes of course. How about knickers: http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/reviews/knickers/ I like the ones from www.swrve.com too. Matt O.
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 11:32:51
From: Rob Morley
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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In article <4729f6e3.14725171@news20.forteinc.com >, Jose go.spam@somewhere.else says... > Hi All, > > I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about my > trousers getting from contact with the chain. > > I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which > cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear > deraileur. > Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in > or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have > :-( > > Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)?? > > Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers > clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above > mentioned? > > I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd > prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the > likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry > about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride. > You don't say what sort of bike you have - if it has a front derailleur it's not practical to fit any sort of chainguard apart from those plastic discs that attach to the outer chainring, if it has a rear derailleur it's not practical to fit a full length guard but you could use a shorter one. If the bike has a hub gear it's an ideal candidate for a chain guard, but as you've discovered one to fit it may not be readily available in the shops. However it should be easy to have a chainguard made to measure - just have a word with your local tinsmith and see what he can come up with. Failing that, tucking trousers in socks or rolling them up works for most people.
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 23:58:39
From: Jose
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:32:51 -0000, Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com > wrote: Hi Rob, >You don't say what sort of bike you have - if it has a front derailleur >it's not practical to fit any sort of chainguard apart from those >plastic discs that attach to the outer chainring My bike has a front deraileur. I've seen new Trek bikes for sale, with triple chainrings, and chaingards (with a cut in the area where the front d. has to move. > if it has a rear >derailleur it's not practical to fit a full length guard but you could >use a shorter one. That depends on the type of attachement to the bike. The above mentioned that I saw, had the chaingard go back to very near the cassete. Besides, that's so far behind, that my trousers won't get there. > If the bike has a hub gear it's an ideal candidate >for a chain guard, but as you've discovered one to fit it may not be >readily available in the shops. Maybe my next bike... The ChainGlider seems perfect, for such type of bike. > However it should be easy to have a >chainguard made to measure - just have a word with your local tinsmith >and see what he can come up with. It just might be easier than getting my hands on one of those exclusive to new, on the store, bikes. Today I asked a fellow: If I buy this bike from you, and the next day I fall down and break the chaingard, won't you order a new one for me? Gess what he replied ;-( > Failing that, tucking trousers in >socks or rolling them up works for most people. At this stage, the ruber elastic sounds attractive. I'll try it and see what gives. Cheers, Jose
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 10:52:40
From: dkahn400
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On Nov 2, 5:14 am, Doug Smith W9WI <w...@invalid.nospam > wrote: > What I use... is the smallest dog collar I could find. Actually more > like a cat collar, can't recall ever seeing a dog small enough for it to > fit. Easy to remove without having to worry how one's going to get it > past your shoe. Back in the previous century we used to use toe straps. These give you more of a hardened cyclist look than using tiny dog collars. You could always use a cat collar which, in addition to keeping your trouser legs out of the chain, would keep your legs clear of fleas and warn pedestrians of your approach with the little tinkling bell. -- Dave...
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 16:32:06
From: Leo Lichtman
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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You know those plastic disks that are supposed to keep your deraileur out of the spokes? Put them on your pedals.
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 10:58:56
From: Dave Larrington
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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In news:1194000760.579616.68940@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com, dkahn400 <dkahn400@googlemail.com > tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell us: > On Nov 2, 5:14 am, Doug Smith W9WI <w...@invalid.nospam> wrote: > >> What I use... is the smallest dog collar I could find. Actually >> more like a cat collar, can't recall ever seeing a dog small enough >> for it to fit. Easy to remove without having to worry how one's >> going to get it past your shoe. > > Back in the previous century we used to use toe straps. These give you > more of a hardened cyclist look than using tiny dog collars. Even in this century. I doned this on the way to the "bike check" at PBP. Come to think of it, that was probably on Dave's advice :-) -- Dave Larrington <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk > And then there was light and He thought it was good, so He threw the receipt away.
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 02:45:41
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On Nov 1, 7:20 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net > wrote: > Trouser clips are tradition among discerning bicyclists. > No one will look askance. Wear them proudly. > http://tinyurl.com/3ybc86
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 21:10:01
From: John Thompson
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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["Followup-To:" header set to rec.bicycles.tech.] On 2007-11-02, landotter <landotter@gmail.com > wrote: > On Nov 1, 7:20 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote: > >> Trouser clips are tradition among discerning bicyclists. >> No one will look askance. Wear them proudly. > http://tinyurl.com/3ybc86 And less than $2 for a pair! Ya can't beat that! Rugged spring steel lasts for decades -- I've been using the same pair for over 30 years now. -- John (john@os2.dhs.org)
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 00:20:09
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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In article <4729f6e3.14725171@news20.forteinc.com >, go.spam@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote: > Hi All, > > I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about my > trousers getting from contact with the chain. > > I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which > cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear > deraileur. > Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in > or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have > :-( > > Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)?? > > Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers > clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above > mentioned? > > I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd > prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the > likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry > about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride. Trouser clips are tradition among discerning bicyclists. No one will look askance. Wear them proudly. -- Michael Press
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 13:58:04
From: Matt O'Toole
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:20:09 +0000, Michael Press wrote: > Trouser clips are tradition among discerning bicyclists. No one will > look askance. Wear them proudly. Everyone used to wear them, but I haven't seen them in a bike shop for 20 years. Matt O.
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Date: 05 Nov 2007 19:14:57
From: Roger Merriman
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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Matt O'Toole <mattotoole@letterboxes.org > wrote: > On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:20:09 +0000, Michael Press wrote: > > > Trouser clips are tradition among discerning bicyclists. No one will > > look askance. Wear them proudly. > > Everyone used to wear them, but I haven't seen them in a bike shop for 20 > years. > > Matt O. bought some a few weeks ago at my local bike shop... roger -- www.rogermerriman.com
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Date: 03 Nov 2007 05:10:51
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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In article <pan.2007.11.02.17.57.55.263427@letterboxes.org >, Matt O'Toole <mattotoole@letterboxes.org > wrote: > On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:20:09 +0000, Michael Press wrote: > > > Trouser clips are tradition among discerning bicyclists. No one will > > look askance. Wear them proudly. > > Everyone used to wear them, but I haven't seen them in a bike shop for 20 > years. I found them around here recently. -- Michael Press
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 18:26:48
From: marc
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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Matt O'Toole wrote: > On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:20:09 +0000, Michael Press wrote: > >> Trouser clips are tradition among discerning bicyclists. No one will >> look askance. Wear them proudly. > > Everyone used to wear them, but I haven't seen them in a bike shop for 20 > years. Tescos
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 10:19:51
From: Marc Brett
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:20:09 GMT, Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net > wrote: >Trouser clips are tradition among discerning bicyclists. >No one will look askance. Wear them proudly. My elders and betters tell tales of when they were children, the village policemen rode bicycles. Their bicycle clips were more like over-sized paper clips or money clips, worn vertically, and simply held together the fold in their trousers. The great advantage of this design is that the ankles weren't pinched, and it also preserved that smartly-dressed appearance, even off the bike. Are they still available for sale, I wonder?
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 11:50:41
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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> Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> wrote: >> Trouser clips are tradition among discerning bicyclists. >> No one will look askance. Wear them proudly. Marc Brett wrote: > My elders and betters tell tales of when they were children, the village > policemen rode bicycles. Their bicycle clips were more like over-sized > paper clips or money clips, worn vertically, and simply held together > the fold in their trousers. > The great advantage of this design is that the ankles weren't pinched, > and it also preserved that smartly-dressed appearance, even off the > bike. > Are they still available for sale, I wonder? Sure, call me in 1976. Vintage Terry's chromed trouser clips, Made in England of chromed British steel, are a sartorial coup for the natty rider on any club ride. I used four to hold the door liner in my MGB. I think they went to scrap with it. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 14:45:18
From: mountaingirl
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On Nov 1, 9:29?pm, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote: > On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:46:03 -0000, "Clive George" > > <cl...@xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > >Long socks, or rolling the trousers up, works for me. Since my collection of > > Hey, rolling the trousers up seems like a good idea to me - efective, > and kinda sexy too! ;-)) > > How couldn't I think of that before?! > Whatever floats your boat. Cheers Em
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 20:15:24
From:
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On Nov 1, 9:49 am, "(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid > wrote: > Per Jose: > > >Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in > >or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have > >:-( > > >Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)?? > > >Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers > >clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above > >mentioned? > > 11" black socks: tuck the pants into the sock. It has to be black ?!?
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 21:53:09
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Mount front brakes on rear?
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_ wrote: > On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:08:07 +0100, James Thomson wrote: > >>>> What should I be measuring? >> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> a �crit: >> >>> distance between the front tips of the brake pads with the caliper >>> open vs. caliper closed, and for the rear tips, open vs closed. when >>> open, the front tips are further apart than the rears. when closed, >>> the front tips are closer than the rears. [front caliper] >> I'm using the moulding seam of the brake block at the point it touches the >> holder as a reference point on the Ultegra 6500 brakes, and (in the absence >> of a convenient moulding mark) trying to pick a consistent point on the >> Centaur pad holder. The measurements are repeatable to within about 1mm, and >> I can't detect any sign of the effect you say is there. >> >> James Thomson > > Either beam's bushings are worn or the arms are loose on the pivots - that > was already pointed out. no, these are new calipers - in perfect condition. > It's impossible for an arm to pivot on a > cylindrical bushing and change the axis of rotation without another pivot > (which is, in essemce, what beamboy is claiming). no it's not. it's a simple geometry problem. you not figuring it out doesn't mean it's impossible - after all, it is observed to be happening.
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 08:29:28
From: _
Subject: Re: Mount front brakes on rear?
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On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:53:09 -0700, jim beam wrote: >> It's impossible for an arm to pivot on a >> cylindrical bushing and change the axis of rotation without another pivot >> (which is, in essemce, what beamboy is claiming). > > no it's not. it's a simple geometry problem. you not figuring it out > doesn't mean it's impossible - after all, it is observed to be happening. Only in your world. In the real world, others have measured and found no such change.
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 02:12:11
From: Leo Lichtman
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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<doug.landau@gmail.com > wrote: It has to be black ?!? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ No, in time it will turn black.
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 17:42:43
From: (PeteCresswell)
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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Per doug.landau@gmail.com: >It has to be black ?!? Actually mine are white. But they do get greasy. Also, wearing white sox to work may get one accused of impersonating an engineer. -- PeteCresswell
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Date: 03 Nov 2007 16:13:03
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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Pete Cresswell wrote: > Per doug.landau@gmail.com: >> It has to be black ?!? > > Actually mine are white. > > But they do get greasy. > > Also, wearing white sox to work may get one accused of > impersonating an engineer. The solution to that problem is to be an engineer. (Yes, I wear white socks [1] to work). [1] White Sox is a baseball team. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia When did ignorance of biology become a "family value"?
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 16:04:06
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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>> Per Jose: >>> Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in >>> or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have >>> :-( >>> Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)?? >>> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers >>> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above >>> mentioned? > "(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid> wrote: >> 11" black socks: tuck the pants into the sock. doug.landau@gmail.com wrote: > It has to be black ?!? White shows chain -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 20:49:44
From: marc
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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doug.landau@gmail.com wrote: > On Nov 1, 9:49 am, "(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid> wrote: >> Per Jose: >> >>> Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in >>> or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have >>> :-( >>> Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)?? >>> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers >>> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above >>> mentioned? >> 11" black socks: tuck the pants into the sock. > > It has to be black ?!? > Of course, so that it doesn't show the chain stain !
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 18:56:33
From: jbollyn@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On Nov 1, 11:12 am, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote: > Hi All, > > I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about my > trousers getting from contact with the chain. > > I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which > cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear > deraileur. > Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in > or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have > :-( > > Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)?? > > Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers > clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above > mentioned? > > I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd > prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the > likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry > about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride. > > TIA, > Jose I use a rubber band on each cuff. The post office delivers mail to my employer using them to bundle, just the right size, 1/4 inch wide.
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 17:56:29
From: Jay
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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<jbollyn@gmail.com > wrote in message news:1193943393.484705.38530@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > On Nov 1, 11:12 am, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about my >> trousers getting from contact with the chain. >> >> I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which >> cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear >> deraileur. >> Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in >> or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have >> :-( >> >> Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)?? >> >> Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers >> clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above >> mentioned? >> >> I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd >> prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the >> likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry >> about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride. >> >> TIA, >> Jose > > I use a rubber band on each cuff. The post office delivers mail to my > employer using them to bundle, just the right size, 1/4 inch wide. > PS: I guess my rubber bands do not merit style points, but I think I am in the running for the lowest weight solution, and lowest $. - Frugal Jay the Minimalist
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 23:45:48
From: Jose
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:56:29 -0500, "Jay" <jbollyn@gmail.com > wrote: >I guess my rubber bands do not merit style points, but I think I am in the >running for the lowest weight solution, and lowest $. On seconf thoughts, I may begin to like your solution: even if I keep loosing the elastic bands - like I've done with the velcro straps, they're so cheap, that I really couldn't care much. Thanks Jay!
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Date: 03 Nov 2007 08:41:11
From: Doc O'Leary
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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In article <472db607.47590015@news20.forteinc.com >, go.spam@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote: > On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:56:29 -0500, "Jay" <jbollyn@gmail.com> wrote: > > >I guess my rubber bands do not merit style points, but I think I am in the > >running for the lowest weight solution, and lowest $. > > On seconf thoughts, I may begin to like your solution: even if I keep > loosing the elastic bands - like I've done with the velcro straps, > they're so cheap, that I really couldn't care much. I tend to use the (standard?) black binder clips. Folding over the pants legs and clipping on the inside makes it practically invisible, if you care about that sort of thing. If you care about keeping the entire lower leg clean, you could butcher an old pair of cycling tights (or even a similar pair of pants) to get something that goes just from calf to foot. Leg warmers could serve the same purpose, if you don't mind looking a bit silly. -- My personal UDP list: 127.0.0.1, 4ax.com, buzzardnews.com, googlegroups.com, heapnode.com, localhost, ntli.net, teranews.com, vif.com, x-privat.org
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 19:17:06
From: Jay
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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"Jose" <go.spam@somewhere.else > wrote in message news:472db607.47590015@news20.forteinc.com... > On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:56:29 -0500, "Jay" <jbollyn@gmail.com> wrote: > >>I guess my rubber bands do not merit style points, but I think I am in the >>running for the lowest weight solution, and lowest $. > > On seconf thoughts, I may begin to like your solution: even if I keep > loosing the elastic bands - like I've done with the velcro straps, > they're so cheap, that I really couldn't care much. > > Thanks Jay! You are right, that is how I look at it. I am a little surprised that more RBT / RBM regulars do not use rubber bands. Perhaps they would need to actually buy the rubber bands, which would obviously be a negative. In my case, we get a million of these rubber bands, which have a fairly short life span. They dry out, I guess. At some point, you stretch them, and they snap. So what. I use a spare, and I am on my way. I have some velcro stuff, but I find the sound annoying. I avoid velcro if there is a good alternative. J.
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Date: 03 Nov 2007 01:32:53
From: Pete Biggs
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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Jay wrote: > "Jose" <go.spam@somewhere.else> wrote in message > news:472db607.47590015@news20.forteinc.com... >> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:56:29 -0500, "Jay" <jbollyn@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I guess my rubber bands do not merit style points, but I think I am >>> in the running for the lowest weight solution, and lowest $. >> >> On seconf thoughts, I may begin to like your solution: even if I keep >> loosing the elastic bands - like I've done with the velcro straps, >> they're so cheap, that I really couldn't care much. >> >> Thanks Jay! > > You are right, that is how I look at it. I am a little surprised that > more RBT / RBM regulars do not use rubber bands. Perhaps they would > need to actually buy the rubber bands, which would obviously be a > negative. In my case, we get a million of these rubber bands, which > have a fairly short life span. They dry out, I guess. The red Royal Mail ones are UV-degradeable. Might explain why so many are dropped on the ground and quickly disintegrate. > At some point, > you stretch them, and they snap. So what. I use a spare, and I am on > my way. Rubber bands are such an obvious solution that I suspect we've all tried them. I find they have to be uncomfortably tight to stay put. Mind your blood circulation! ~PB
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Date: 05 Nov 2007 19:14:57
From: Roger Merriman
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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Pete Biggs <p@pomegranateremovehighlyimpracticalfruitbiggs.tc > wrote: > Jay wrote: > > "Jose" <go.spam@somewhere.else> wrote in message > > news:472db607.47590015@news20.forteinc.com... > >> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:56:29 -0500, "Jay" <jbollyn@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> I guess my rubber bands do not merit style points, but I think I am > >>> in the running for the lowest weight solution, and lowest $. > >> > >> On seconf thoughts, I may begin to like your solution: even if I keep > >> loosing the elastic bands - like I've done with the velcro straps, > >> they're so cheap, that I really couldn't care much. > >> > >> Thanks Jay! > > > > You are right, that is how I look at it. I am a little surprised that > > more RBT / RBM regulars do not use rubber bands. Perhaps they would > > need to actually buy the rubber bands, which would obviously be a > > negative. In my case, we get a million of these rubber bands, which > > have a fairly short life span. They dry out, I guess. > > The red Royal Mail ones are UV-degradeable. Might explain why so many are > dropped on the ground and quickly disintegrate. > last i heard they where red so they could be spotted than degradeable, though they are, a weaker band than the older normal bands RM used to use is fairly evident. > > ~PB roger -- www.rogermerriman.com
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Date: 03 Nov 2007 12:06:01
From: Jay
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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"Pete Biggs" <p@pomegranateremovehighlyimpracticalfruitbiggs.tc > wrote in message news:5p21f5FovpcdU1@mid.individual.net... > Jay wrote: >> "Jose" <go.spam@somewhere.else> wrote in message >> news:472db607.47590015@news20.forteinc.com... >>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:56:29 -0500, "Jay" <jbollyn@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I guess my rubber bands do not merit style points, but I think I am >>>> in the running for the lowest weight solution, and lowest $. >>> >>> On seconf thoughts, I may begin to like your solution: even if I keep >>> loosing the elastic bands - like I've done with the velcro straps, >>> they're so cheap, that I really couldn't care much. >>> >>> Thanks Jay! >> >> You are right, that is how I look at it. I am a little surprised that >> more RBT / RBM regulars do not use rubber bands. Perhaps they would >> need to actually buy the rubber bands, which would obviously be a >> negative. In my case, we get a million of these rubber bands, which >> have a fairly short life span. They dry out, I guess. > > The red Royal Mail ones are UV-degradeable. Might explain why so many are > dropped on the ground and quickly disintegrate. > >> At some point, >> you stretch them, and they snap. So what. I use a spare, and I am on >> my way. > > Rubber bands are such an obvious solution that I suspect we've all tried > them. I find they have to be uncomfortably tight to stay put. Mind your > blood circulation! > > ~PB I suggest you have not found the correct size for your comfort. Here is a company http://www.bigwigbands.com/rb_sizes.html which has 15 different standard sizes in the 1/4" width. The size I like is, I think, 3 1/2" long (unstretched). Note also the different thicknesses. So the perceived tightness on your ankle varies by both the band length and the thickness. J.
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 23:10:30
From:
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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Jay wrote: > PS: > > I guess my rubber bands do not merit style points, but I think I am in the > running for the lowest weight solution, and lowest $. If you take the trousers off you'd be into negative weight ... -dan
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 18:18:44
From: Jay
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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<dan@telent.net > wrote in message news:472a5ce6$0$13935$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk... > Jay wrote: >> PS: >> >> I guess my rubber bands do not merit style points, but I think I am in >> the running for the lowest weight solution, and lowest $. > > If you take the trousers off you'd be into negative weight ... > > > -dan Great suggestion for July, but it is November, and I am in Chicago. J.
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 17:46:03
From: Clive George
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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"Jose" <go.spam@somewhere.else > wrote in message news:4729f6e3.14725171@news20.forteinc.com... > Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers > clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above > mentioned? Long socks, or rolling the trousers up, works for me. Since my collection of the former has shrunk, I do the latter a lot more these days - but then I'm not terribly fashion conscious. cheers, clive
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 21:29:31
From: Jose
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:46:03 -0000, "Clive George" <clive@xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk > wrote: >Long socks, or rolling the trousers up, works for me. Since my collection of Hey, rolling the trousers up seems like a good idea to me - efective, and kinda sexy too! ;-)) How couldn't I think of that before?! Thanks! Jose
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 17:42:44
From: Peter Fox
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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> I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd > prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the > likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry > about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride. Despite the sarcastic nature of the replies (what did you expect) the advice to fasten trousers is sound. If not, the bottom hem is rubbed against /something/ every revolution and frays. The second thing is /never/ to _oil_ the chain as this serves to pick up dirt as well of course spoil your apparel. Wax seems to work. There's no such thing as a clean chain but an _oily_ one will be filthy. Finally, your cycling gear is a badge that lets everyone know you are a care-naught, sleek street streaker and bit of mean muscle. -- Peter Fox Beer, dancing, cycling and lots more at www.eminent.demon.co.uk
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 21:25:00
From: Jose
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:42:44 +0000, Peter Fox <pf-0507@eminent.demon.co.uk > wrote: >trousers is sound. If not, the bottom hem is rubbed against /something/ every revolution >and frays. Well, I prefer frayed rather than chain oil tatued ;-) >The second thing is /never/ to _oil_ the chain as this serves to pick up dirt as well of >course spoil your apparel. Wax seems to work. There's no such thing as a clean chain but >an _oily_ one will be filthy. I still think that oil is a better lubrication solution than wax/grease, but when trouser staining comes into the equation, you might be right, and I might choose to replace my chains more often, and replace my trousers not so often . Thanks, Jose
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 18:43:58
From: Nick
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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Peter Fox wrote: >> I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd >> prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the >> likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry >> about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride. > Despite the sarcastic nature of the replies (what did you expect) the > advice to fasten trousers is sound. If not, the bottom hem is rubbed > against /something/ every revolution and frays. > > The second thing is /never/ to _oil_ the chain as this serves to pick up > dirt as well of course spoil your apparel. Wax seems to work. There's > no such thing as a clean chain but an _oily_ one will be filthy. > Yep this works - bicycle clips and wax on the chain. However wax is a crap lubricant so it is also a good idea to replace chains regularly. But with 8 speed chains at £4.00 (with powerlinks) it is so cheap and easy to replace a chain you may want to forget lubricating altogether and just change your chain every couple of months. > Finally, your cycling gear is a badge that lets everyone know you are a > care-naught, sleek street streaker and bit of mean muscle. > >
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 10:22:05
From: marc
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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Nick wrote: > Peter Fox wrote: >>> I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd >>> prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the >>> likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry >>> about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride. >> Despite the sarcastic nature of the replies (what did you expect) the >> advice to fasten trousers is sound. If not, the bottom hem is rubbed >> against /something/ every revolution and frays. >> >> The second thing is /never/ to _oil_ the chain as this serves to pick >> up dirt as well of course spoil your apparel. Wax seems to work. >> There's no such thing as a clean chain but an _oily_ one will be filthy. >> > > Yep this works - bicycle clips and wax on the chain. > > However wax is a crap lubricant so it is also a good idea to replace > chains regularly. > If wax is a " crap lubricant" ( not admitted) then why use it?
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 11:00:48
From: Nick
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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marc wrote: > Nick wrote: >> Peter Fox wrote: >>>> I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd >>>> prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the >>>> likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry >>>> about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride. >>> Despite the sarcastic nature of the replies (what did you expect) the >>> advice to fasten trousers is sound. If not, the bottom hem is rubbed >>> against /something/ every revolution and frays. >>> >>> The second thing is /never/ to _oil_ the chain as this serves to pick >>> up dirt as well of course spoil your apparel. Wax seems to work. >>> There's no such thing as a clean chain but an _oily_ one will be filthy. >>> >> >> Yep this works - bicycle clips and wax on the chain. >> >> However wax is a crap lubricant so it is also a good idea to replace >> chains regularly. >> > If wax is a " crap lubricant" ( not admitted) then why use it? Because it doesn't attract the dirt like oil does.
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 12:55:46
From: Matt O'Toole
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:12:33 +0000, Jose wrote: > Hi All, > > I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about my > trousers getting from contact with the chain. > > I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which cover > the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear deraileur. > Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in or > capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have :-( > > Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)?? > > Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers clean > and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above > mentioned? > > I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd > prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the > likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry > about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride. Jose, Good question about chainguards. I don't understand why no one is selling them, especially with new bikes made for commuting. There are dozens of bikes with internal gear hubs now, the whole point being that they can be used with chainguards -- yet they have no chainguards. I've never seen an add-on chainguard for sale in the US. Personally I use a safety pin to cinch down my trouser cuff, or a "slap bracelet" reflective ankle band that VDOT gives out for free. I still have the occasional mishap though. One of the best things about living in a college town is that no one cares what a dork you look like, with things wrapped around your ankle. Matt O.
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 18:05:40
From: Tim McNamara
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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In article <pan.2007.11.01.16.55.30.174402@letterboxes.org >, Matt O'Toole <mattotoole@letterboxes.org > wrote: > On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:12:33 +0000, Jose wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about > > my trousers getting from contact with the chain. > > > > I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which > > cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear > > deraileur. Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either > > interested in or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting > > the I already have :-( > > > > Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)?? > > > > Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers > > clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection > > above mentioned? > > > > I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd > > prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the > > likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to > > worry about performing yet that extra step before being able to > > ride. > > Jose, > > Good question about chainguards. I don't understand why no one is > selling them, especially with new bikes made for commuting. There > are dozens of bikes with internal gear hubs now, the whole point > being that they can be used with chainguards -- yet they have no > chainguards. I have seen several bikes at the LBS with a chain guard- Breezers and ANTs, to be specific (but the latter is a semi-custom builder). > I've never seen an add-on chainguard for sale in the US. You are buy several different ones through Quality, etc. But chaincases are harder to find especially in the US. Part of the problem, of course, is that accommodating derailleurs and multiple chainrings and multi-cog cassette is very difficult in designing a chain guard or a chain case. For hub gears/single speeds, the Hebie Chainglider has received good reviews. If I was going to go for a covered-chain system, I'd use this one on my three speed "club" bike: http://www.hebie.de/html/en/detail_schuetze.php?id=0350 > Personally I use a safety pin to cinch down my trouser cuff, or a > "slap bracelet" reflective ankle band that VDOT gives out for free. > I still have the occasional mishap though. Nothing is perfect. > One of the best things about living in a college town is that no one > cares what a dork you look like, with things wrapped around your > ankle. LOL!
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 19:59:46
From: still me
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:55:46 -0400, Matt O'Toole <mattotoole@letterboxes.org > wrote: >One of the best things about living in a college town is that no one cares >what a dork you look like, with things wrapped around your ankle. > >Matt O. Ah... we've been meaning to talk to you about that...
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 16:54:01
From: Pete Biggs
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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Jose wrote: > Hi All, > > I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about my > trousers getting from contact with the chain. > > I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which > cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear > deraileur. > Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in > or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have > :-( > > Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)?? > > Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers > clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above > mentioned? > > I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd > prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the > likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry > about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride. Chain guards can be difficult to fit well, and they interfere with maintenance. They're of limited use anyway. Unfastened trouser bottoms get dirty even when the bike has a full chain guard - because the outside of the guard and cranks quickly get dirty from road dust and muck. Using clips or tucking trousers into socks might look silly but is not really much trouble. Plus your ankles will be warmer and more aerodynamic :-) ~PB
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 21:19:10
From: Jose
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:54:01 -0000, "Pete Biggs" <p@pomegranateremovehighlyimpracticalfruitbiggs.tc > wrote: >They're of limited use anyway. Unfastened trouser bottoms get dirty even >when the bike has a full chain guard - because the outside of the guard and >cranks quickly get dirty from road dust and muck. I still think that an oily chain is far, far worse - besides, I still haven't foiund a way to wash out a chain oil mark from trousers - short of using a pair of scisors, that is ;-P >Using clips or tucking trousers into socks might look silly but is not >really much trouble. Plus your ankles will be warmer and more aerodynamic I've tried that before. Trouble is that clips or the velcro fasteners would only last 1 ride - after that I could never remember where I had stored them :-( Regards, Jose
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Date: 03 Nov 2007 16:28:06
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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Jose who? wrote: > On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:54:01 -0000, "Pete Biggs" > <p@pomegranateremovehighlyimpracticalfruitbiggs.tc> wrote: > >> They're of limited use anyway. Unfastened trouser bottoms get dirty even >> when the bike has a full chain guard - because the outside of the guard and >> cranks quickly get dirty from road dust and muck. > > I still think that an oily chain is far, far worse - besides, I still > haven't foiund a way to wash out a chain oil mark from trousers - > short of using a pair of scisors, that is ;-P > > >> Using clips or tucking trousers into socks might look silly but is not >> really much trouble. Plus your ankles will be warmer and more aerodynamic > > I've tried that before. Trouble is that clips or the velcro fasteners > would only last 1 ride - after that I could never remember where I had > stored them :-( I always store pant clips and cycling gloves by hanging them from the handlebars of the bicycle. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia When did ignorance of biology become a "family value"?
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Date: 03 Nov 2007 18:29:22
From: Rob Morley
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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In article <472d41fc.33950031@news20.forteinc.com >, Jose go.spam@somewhere.else says... > I've tried that before. Trouble is that clips or the velcro fasteners > would only last 1 ride - after that I could never remember where I had > stored them :-( > Hint - velcro straps can be attached to various parts of the bike. :-)
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Date: 05 Nov 2007 00:32:45
From: Jose
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:29:22 -0000, Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com > wrote: >Hint - velcro straps can be attached to various parts of the bike. :-) Indeed, I'm planning on losening the pant and tight the strap around the leg while doing my errands, and around the handlebar or the top tube, once back into the garage or while riding without jeans. Thanks, Jose
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 21:44:25
From: Pete Biggs
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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Jose wrote: > On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:54:01 -0000, "Pete Biggs" > <p@pomegranateremovehighlyimpracticalfruitbiggs.tc> wrote: > >> They're of limited use anyway. Unfastened trouser bottoms get dirty >> even when the bike has a full chain guard - because the outside of >> the guard and cranks quickly get dirty from road dust and muck. > > I still think that an oily chain is far, far worse - besides, I still > haven't foiund a way to wash out a chain oil mark from trousers - > short of using a pair of scisors, that is ;-P Of course oil is far worse, but you don't get any dirt at all from the bike on your trousers if they are fastened or tucked in. Personally, even if I didn't mind the dirt, I wouldn't like the flapping-around feeling and worry about the trousers getting caught in /something/ - on the left as well as right side. But if you don't care, good luck with your chainguard! Let us know how well it fits your bike and chainset. ~PB
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 23:28:44
From: Jose
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:44:25 -0000, "Pete Biggs" <p@pomegranateremovehighlyimpracticalfruitbiggs.tc > wrote: >Personally, even if I didn't mind the dirt, I wouldn't like the >flapping-around feeling and worry about the trousers getting caught in >/something/ - on the left as well as right side. I'm looking for a better situation, not a perfect solution. I often cycle wearing training trousers, and with a plastic protection around the larger chainring, they haven't got caught anywhere, so far. The traing trousers get stained by the chain, but I couldn't care less. What I'm concerned about is the jeans that I wear for going just down to the post office, the bank, the pharmacy, etc. >But if you don't care, good luck with your chainguard! Let us know how well >it fits your bike and chainset. I'm inclined to give it another try with the velcro strap, or cat/dog collar, and leave it on the bike - so that I always know were I have it, which has been my major problem with that so far, as I keep losing one after another. If that still fails, for whatever reason, I'll definitelly go for a long chaingard - if they fit new bikes I see all the time for sale, why wouldn't it fit bike?? I'll chop it, drill it, extend it, whatever necessary, but it *will* fit my bike. Good luck with your pants, too. Jose
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 12:49:35
From: (PeteCresswell)
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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Per Jose: >Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in >or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have >:-( > >Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)?? > >Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers >clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above >mentioned? 11" black socks: tuck the pants into the sock. Chain guards are probably a good thing, but my experience is that an open cuff finds other ways to get dirty. Also, every so often, it catches on the crank arm. -- PeteCresswell
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 16:36:45
From: Scott Gordo
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On Nov 1, 12:12 pm, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote: > Hi All, > > I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about my > trousers getting from contact with the chain. > > I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which > cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear > deraileur. > Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in > or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have > :-( > > Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)?? > > Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers > clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above > mentioned? > > I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd > prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the > likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry > about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride. > > TIA, > Jose Aha! You must be inquiring about my ingenious invention called Le Sock. Instructions: 1. Put Le Sock on your foot. 2. Pull pants over your legs. 3. On drive side leg, roll the specially formulated ElastoCycleCuff of Le Sock down to your ankle. 4. Fold the bottom of your pant leg into a pleat, tight around the ankle. 5. Pull ElastoCycleCuff over pant leg. 6. Repeat on non-drive side leg. 7. Presto! Best of all, my distributor has Le Sock in just about any location you can think of, and in as many different styles as you can imagine. Email me a check for $20 and I'll tell you where you can find a pair. /s
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 11:29:02
From: Allan
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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Scott Gordo wrote: > > On Nov 1, 12:12 pm, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I'd like to be able to ride my bike without having to worry about my > > trousers getting from contact with the chain. > > > > I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which > > cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear > > deraileur. > > Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in > > or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have > > :-( > > > > Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)?? > > > > Alternativelly, has anyone found a way to keep both your trousers > > clean and your chain lubed, without using the kind of protection above > > mentioned? > > > > I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd > > prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the > > likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry > > about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride. > > > > TIA, > > Jose > > Aha! You must be inquiring about my ingenious invention called Le > Sock. > > Instructions: > > 1. Put Le Sock on your foot. > 2. Pull pants over your legs. > 3. On drive side leg, roll the specially formulated ElastoCycleCuff of > Le Sock down to your ankle. > 4. Fold the bottom of your pant leg into a pleat, tight around the > ankle. > 5. Pull ElastoCycleCuff over pant leg. > 6. Repeat on non-drive side leg. > 7. Presto! > > Best of all, my distributor has Le Sock in just about any location you > can think of, and in as many different styles as you can imagine. > Email me a check for $20 and I'll tell you where you can find a pair. > > /s Ah Le Sock the cheap imitation of the iSock - only available in white from Banana, Although third parties have started producing the iSock sock a knitted material protective covering for your iSock available in a variety of colours. Sorry its Friday :-) Allan
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 02:07:28
From: Leo Lichtman
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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"Scott Gordo" wrote: (clip) Email me a check for $20 and I'll tell you where you can find a pair. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Your check is in the e-mail.
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 12:27:38
From: David L. Johnson
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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Jose wrote: > I know I could try fastening the trouser tight to the leg, but I'd > prefer something else, as I think that would only decrease the > likelyhood of staining my trousers, and I'd prefer not having to worry > about performing yet that extra step before being able to ride. I use velcro'd straps around both ankles, and it works well. They are reflective, which is also good. Keeping the pants away not just from the chain, but also (on the left side) keeping the pants from catching on the frame and/or wheel. I think they do more than a chainguard would, without the additional hassles involved in keeping the chainguard from rubbing or rattling, and getting it out of the way when changing a tire. -- David L. Johnson It doesn't get any easier, you just go faster. --Greg LeMond
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 09:19:15
From: bookieb
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On Nov 1, 4:12 pm, go.s...@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote: <snip > > I've seen several chain (plastic) protections, on new bikes, which > cover the chainring area and go back to very close to the rear > deraileur. > Trouble is, I can't seem to find anyone that is either interested in > or capable of, selling me one of those for mounting the I already have > :-( > > Anyone knows where I can get one of these (preferably mail order)?? > <snip > > TIA, > Jose One available here: http://www.roseversand.de/output/controller.aspx?cid=156&detail=10&detail2=7181 desicribed as suitable for a triple chainring. I've purchased stuff mail order from these guys before - good service so far. hth, bookieb.
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 21:11:20
From: Jose
Subject: Re: Chain / trouser protection?
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On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:19:15 -0700, bookieb <tsgtesting@yahoo.co.uk > wrote: >One available here: > >http://www.roseversand.de/output/controller.aspx?cid=156&detail=10&detail2=7181 > >desicribed as suitable for a triple chainring. Thank you, this seems the kind of thing I'm looking for! Best, Jose
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