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Date: 04 Nov 2007 15:34:48
From: Pete Grey
Subject: Chris King no-threadset on carbon steerer, o-ring troubles
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I'm having a bit of a battle with getting the top-cap over the steerer on a
bike I'm building.
This isn't my first King headset install, I've done maybe a half-dozen, plus
many other headset installs.
The darn o-ring is simply too tight. As in WAY too tight. I can get the
cap maybe 2-3mm down the steerer (put a nice bevel on it already), and
that's it, by hand.
I can't budge it with a rubber mallet. I can move it by using my crown race
setting tool, but it takes quite a tap to get it to move further down.
Given that, I suspect I won't be able to adjust the headset even if I can
get it snugged down, as there wouldn't be any play to even adjust?
Any ideas? I've tried greasing the o-ring and steerer, also silicone lube
on both. Same results with either, not going anywhere fast.
This headset was on the exact same frame fork model# awhile back, but I got
hit and it bent my headtube so I got a new fork to be safe on the rebuild.
I'm puzzled, any help would be greatly appreciated....
Thanks,
-pete
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Date: 07 Nov 2007 18:45:24
From:
Subject: Re: Chris King no-threadset on carbon steerer, o-ring troubles
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jim beam wrote:
> Pete Grey wrote:
> > When I was first setting up to cut the fork it wasn't in there. Now it is,
> > but the cap wouldn't budge prior to installing the plug either, same deal.
> >
> > It's a Real Designs: Signature HP. I've measured it as per the instructions
> > from the Chris King customer service guy, and it was actually on the smaller
> > side of their diameter tolerances, interestingly enough...
> >
> > I think my o-ring groove is probably mis-cut,
>
> technically possible, but in reality, most unlikely. these components
> are the product of high quality automation - there's very little chance
> this one is out of tolerance.
>
>
> > but the King guy doesn't seem
> > to think so, or to try and resolve it by checking that...
> > I'm at a bit of a loss at this point.
>
> persist!
>
> o-rings are cheap and abundant - you can probably buy a bag of 100 for a
> few bucks. sand down the tube a little*, and use more silicone grease.
> it'll go at some point.
>
> * when sanding, look for "high points". do this by rubbing a stem up
> and down and seeing where it abrades. repeat until the shaft is smooth
> and as uniform as possible. try not to reduce it in diameter - be
> selective, not indiscriminate. once the o-ring is on, wipe off all the
> grease.
>
>
>
> >
> > -pete
> >
> > <raelwelcome> wrote in message
> > news:0eidnSewP9O9c63anZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> "Pete Grey" <pgrey@hotmail.com> wrote in
> >> news:HoOdnboWcYyQyrPanZ2dnUVZ_rqlnZ2d@comcast.com:
> >>
> >>> I'm having a bit of a battle with getting the top-cap over the steerer
> >>> on a bike I'm building.
> >>> This isn't my first King headset install, I've done maybe a
> >>> half-dozen, plus many other headset installs.
> >>>
> >>> The darn o-ring is simply too tight. As in WAY too tight. I can get
> >>> the cap maybe 2-3mm down the steerer (put a nice bevel on it already),
> >>> and that's it, by hand.
> >>>
> >>> I can't budge it with a rubber mallet. I can move it by using my
> >>> crown race setting tool, but it takes quite a tap to get it to move
> >>> further down. Given that, I suspect I won't be able to adjust the
> >>> headset even if I can get it snugged down, as there wouldn't be any
> >>> play to even adjust?
> >>>
> >>> Any ideas? I've tried greasing the o-ring and steerer, also silicone
> >>> lube on both. Same results with either, not going anywhere fast.
> >>>
> >>> This headset was on the exact same frame fork model# awhile back, but
> >>> I got hit and it bent my headtube so I got a new fork to be safe on
> >>> the rebuild. I'm puzzled, any help would be greatly appreciated....
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> -pete
> >>>
> >>>
> >> You did not say if the compression plug is in the steer tube. If so
> >> remove and see if it works. Just an idea. What type/brand fork?
> >
> >
Have you ever had your face spackled with ejaculate?
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Date: 06 Nov 2007 16:43:44
From: raelwelcome
Subject: Re: Chris King no-threadset on carbon steerer, o-ring troubles
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"Pete Grey" <pgrey@hotmail.com > wrote in
news:HoOdnboWcYyQyrPanZ2dnUVZ_rqlnZ2d@comcast.com:
> I'm having a bit of a battle with getting the top-cap over the steerer
> on a bike I'm building.
> This isn't my first King headset install, I've done maybe a
> half-dozen, plus many other headset installs.
>
> The darn o-ring is simply too tight. As in WAY too tight. I can get
> the cap maybe 2-3mm down the steerer (put a nice bevel on it already),
> and that's it, by hand.
>
> I can't budge it with a rubber mallet. I can move it by using my
> crown race setting tool, but it takes quite a tap to get it to move
> further down. Given that, I suspect I won't be able to adjust the
> headset even if I can get it snugged down, as there wouldn't be any
> play to even adjust?
>
> Any ideas? I've tried greasing the o-ring and steerer, also silicone
> lube on both. Same results with either, not going anywhere fast.
>
> This headset was on the exact same frame fork model# awhile back, but
> I got hit and it bent my headtube so I got a new fork to be safe on
> the rebuild. I'm puzzled, any help would be greatly appreciated....
>
> Thanks,
>
> -pete
>
>
You did not say if the compression plug is in the steer tube. If so
remove and see if it works. Just an idea. What type/brand fork?
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Date: 06 Nov 2007 22:01:18
From: Pete Grey
Subject: Re: Chris King no-threadset on carbon steerer, o-ring troubles
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When I was first setting up to cut the fork it wasn't in there. Now it is,
but the cap wouldn't budge prior to installing the plug either, same deal.
It's a Real Designs: Signature HP. I've measured it as per the instructions
from the Chris King customer service guy, and it was actually on the smaller
side of their diameter tolerances, interestingly enough...
I think my o-ring groove is probably mis-cut, but the King guy doesn't seem
to think so, or to try and resolve it by checking that...
I'm at a bit of a loss at this point.
-pete
<raelwelcome > wrote in message
news:0eidnSewP9O9c63anZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> "Pete Grey" <pgrey@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:HoOdnboWcYyQyrPanZ2dnUVZ_rqlnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
>> I'm having a bit of a battle with getting the top-cap over the steerer
>> on a bike I'm building.
>> This isn't my first King headset install, I've done maybe a
>> half-dozen, plus many other headset installs.
>>
>> The darn o-ring is simply too tight. As in WAY too tight. I can get
>> the cap maybe 2-3mm down the steerer (put a nice bevel on it already),
>> and that's it, by hand.
>>
>> I can't budge it with a rubber mallet. I can move it by using my
>> crown race setting tool, but it takes quite a tap to get it to move
>> further down. Given that, I suspect I won't be able to adjust the
>> headset even if I can get it snugged down, as there wouldn't be any
>> play to even adjust?
>>
>> Any ideas? I've tried greasing the o-ring and steerer, also silicone
>> lube on both. Same results with either, not going anywhere fast.
>>
>> This headset was on the exact same frame fork model# awhile back, but
>> I got hit and it bent my headtube so I got a new fork to be safe on
>> the rebuild. I'm puzzled, any help would be greatly appreciated....
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -pete
>>
>>
>
> You did not say if the compression plug is in the steer tube. If so
> remove and see if it works. Just an idea. What type/brand fork?
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Date: 07 Nov 2007 05:46:07
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Chris King no-threadset on carbon steerer, o-ring troubles
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Pete Grey wrote:
> When I was first setting up to cut the fork it wasn't in there. Now it is,
> but the cap wouldn't budge prior to installing the plug either, same deal.
>
> It's a Real Designs: Signature HP. I've measured it as per the instructions
> from the Chris King customer service guy, and it was actually on the smaller
> side of their diameter tolerances, interestingly enough...
>
> I think my o-ring groove is probably mis-cut,
technically possible, but in reality, most unlikely. these components
are the product of high quality automation - there's very little chance
this one is out of tolerance.
> but the King guy doesn't seem
> to think so, or to try and resolve it by checking that...
> I'm at a bit of a loss at this point.
persist!
o-rings are cheap and abundant - you can probably buy a bag of 100 for a
few bucks. sand down the tube a little*, and use more silicone grease.
it'll go at some point.
* when sanding, look for "high points". do this by rubbing a stem up
and down and seeing where it abrades. repeat until the shaft is smooth
and as uniform as possible. try not to reduce it in diameter - be
selective, not indiscriminate. once the o-ring is on, wipe off all the
grease.
>
> -pete
>
> <raelwelcome> wrote in message
> news:0eidnSewP9O9c63anZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> "Pete Grey" <pgrey@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:HoOdnboWcYyQyrPanZ2dnUVZ_rqlnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>
>>> I'm having a bit of a battle with getting the top-cap over the steerer
>>> on a bike I'm building.
>>> This isn't my first King headset install, I've done maybe a
>>> half-dozen, plus many other headset installs.
>>>
>>> The darn o-ring is simply too tight. As in WAY too tight. I can get
>>> the cap maybe 2-3mm down the steerer (put a nice bevel on it already),
>>> and that's it, by hand.
>>>
>>> I can't budge it with a rubber mallet. I can move it by using my
>>> crown race setting tool, but it takes quite a tap to get it to move
>>> further down. Given that, I suspect I won't be able to adjust the
>>> headset even if I can get it snugged down, as there wouldn't be any
>>> play to even adjust?
>>>
>>> Any ideas? I've tried greasing the o-ring and steerer, also silicone
>>> lube on both. Same results with either, not going anywhere fast.
>>>
>>> This headset was on the exact same frame fork model# awhile back, but
>>> I got hit and it bent my headtube so I got a new fork to be safe on
>>> the rebuild. I'm puzzled, any help would be greatly appreciated....
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -pete
>>>
>>>
>> You did not say if the compression plug is in the steer tube. If so
>> remove and see if it works. Just an idea. What type/brand fork?
>
>
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Date: 07 Nov 2007 11:11:21
From: Pete Grey
Subject: Re: Chris King no-threadset on carbon steerer, o-ring troubles
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I could try getting some o-rings, any idea how to accurately measure the
existing one?
I put on a LOT of grease this time, no additional success.
I have to admit, I'm very hesitant to start sanding down the carbon fiber
steerer. It looks pretty thin as it is and I'm not sure how much tolerance
there is for taking material off...
-pete
"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net > wrote in message
news:BM-dnXyqXoUCXKzanZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
> Pete Grey wrote:
>> When I was first setting up to cut the fork it wasn't in there. Now it
>> is, but the cap wouldn't budge prior to installing the plug either, same
>> deal.
>>
>> It's a Real Designs: Signature HP. I've measured it as per the
>> instructions from the Chris King customer service guy, and it was
>> actually on the smaller side of their diameter tolerances, interestingly
>> enough...
>>
>> I think my o-ring groove is probably mis-cut,
>
> technically possible, but in reality, most unlikely. these components are
> the product of high quality automation - there's very little chance this
> one is out of tolerance.
>
>
>> but the King guy doesn't seem to think so, or to try and resolve it by
>> checking that...
>> I'm at a bit of a loss at this point.
>
> persist!
>
> o-rings are cheap and abundant - you can probably buy a bag of 100 for a
> few bucks. sand down the tube a little*, and use more silicone grease.
> it'll go at some point.
>
> * when sanding, look for "high points". do this by rubbing a stem up and
> down and seeing where it abrades. repeat until the shaft is smooth and as
> uniform as possible. try not to reduce it in diameter - be selective, not
> indiscriminate. once the o-ring is on, wipe off all the grease.
>
>
>
>>
>> -pete
>>
>> <raelwelcome> wrote in message
>> news:0eidnSewP9O9c63anZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> "Pete Grey" <pgrey@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:HoOdnboWcYyQyrPanZ2dnUVZ_rqlnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>>
>>>> I'm having a bit of a battle with getting the top-cap over the steerer
>>>> on a bike I'm building.
>>>> This isn't my first King headset install, I've done maybe a
>>>> half-dozen, plus many other headset installs.
>>>>
>>>> The darn o-ring is simply too tight. As in WAY too tight. I can get
>>>> the cap maybe 2-3mm down the steerer (put a nice bevel on it already),
>>>> and that's it, by hand.
>>>>
>>>> I can't budge it with a rubber mallet. I can move it by using my
>>>> crown race setting tool, but it takes quite a tap to get it to move
>>>> further down. Given that, I suspect I won't be able to adjust the
>>>> headset even if I can get it snugged down, as there wouldn't be any
>>>> play to even adjust?
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas? I've tried greasing the o-ring and steerer, also silicone
>>>> lube on both. Same results with either, not going anywhere fast.
>>>>
>>>> This headset was on the exact same frame fork model# awhile back, but
>>>> I got hit and it bent my headtube so I got a new fork to be safe on
>>>> the rebuild. I'm puzzled, any help would be greatly appreciated....
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> -pete
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You did not say if the compression plug is in the steer tube. If so
>>> remove and see if it works. Just an idea. What type/brand fork?
>>
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Date: 07 Nov 2007 11:59:29
From: Pete Grey
Subject: Re: Chris King no-threadset on carbon steerer, o-ring troubles
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I think I've figured it out.
I believe my top-cap is slightly out-of-round. King had me measure my
steerer, and it nearly perfectly round, on several points of the steerer,
and all <=1.125".
However, I took a King top-cap off another bike, and was able to install it
by hand, with a good amount of force, but by hand all the way down the
steerer.
I ordered a new top-cap from King, should get here tomorrow or Friday.
-pete
"Pete Grey" <pgrey@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:rOydnUTjIrVWkK_anZ2dnUVZ_vWtnZ2d@comcast.com...
>I could try getting some o-rings, any idea how to accurately measure the
>existing one?
>
> I put on a LOT of grease this time, no additional success.
>
> I have to admit, I'm very hesitant to start sanding down the carbon fiber
> steerer. It looks pretty thin as it is and I'm not sure how much
> tolerance there is for taking material off...
>
> -pete
>
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:BM-dnXyqXoUCXKzanZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>> Pete Grey wrote:
>>> When I was first setting up to cut the fork it wasn't in there. Now it
>>> is, but the cap wouldn't budge prior to installing the plug either, same
>>> deal.
>>>
>>> It's a Real Designs: Signature HP. I've measured it as per the
>>> instructions from the Chris King customer service guy, and it was
>>> actually on the smaller side of their diameter tolerances, interestingly
>>> enough...
>>>
>>> I think my o-ring groove is probably mis-cut,
>>
>> technically possible, but in reality, most unlikely. these components
>> are the product of high quality automation - there's very little chance
>> this one is out of tolerance.
>>
>>
>>> but the King guy doesn't seem to think so, or to try and resolve it by
>>> checking that...
>>> I'm at a bit of a loss at this point.
>>
>> persist!
>>
>> o-rings are cheap and abundant - you can probably buy a bag of 100 for a
>> few bucks. sand down the tube a little*, and use more silicone grease.
>> it'll go at some point.
>>
>> * when sanding, look for "high points". do this by rubbing a stem up and
>> down and seeing where it abrades. repeat until the shaft is smooth and
>> as uniform as possible. try not to reduce it in diameter - be selective,
>> not indiscriminate. once the o-ring is on, wipe off all the grease.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> -pete
>>>
>>> <raelwelcome> wrote in message
>>> news:0eidnSewP9O9c63anZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> "Pete Grey" <pgrey@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:HoOdnboWcYyQyrPanZ2dnUVZ_rqlnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm having a bit of a battle with getting the top-cap over the steerer
>>>>> on a bike I'm building.
>>>>> This isn't my first King headset install, I've done maybe a
>>>>> half-dozen, plus many other headset installs.
>>>>>
>>>>> The darn o-ring is simply too tight. As in WAY too tight. I can get
>>>>> the cap maybe 2-3mm down the steerer (put a nice bevel on it already),
>>>>> and that's it, by hand.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't budge it with a rubber mallet. I can move it by using my
>>>>> crown race setting tool, but it takes quite a tap to get it to move
>>>>> further down. Given that, I suspect I won't be able to adjust the
>>>>> headset even if I can get it snugged down, as there wouldn't be any
>>>>> play to even adjust?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas? I've tried greasing the o-ring and steerer, also silicone
>>>>> lube on both. Same results with either, not going anywhere fast.
>>>>>
>>>>> This headset was on the exact same frame fork model# awhile back, but
>>>>> I got hit and it bent my headtube so I got a new fork to be safe on
>>>>> the rebuild. I'm puzzled, any help would be greatly appreciated....
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> -pete
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> You did not say if the compression plug is in the steer tube. If so
>>>> remove and see if it works. Just an idea. What type/brand fork?
>>>
>
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Date: 07 Nov 2007 20:46:23
From: Lou Holtman
Subject: Re: Chris King no-threadset on carbon steerer, o-ring troubles
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Pete Grey wrote:
> I could try getting some o-rings, any idea how to accurately measure the
> existing one?
>
> I put on a LOT of grease this time, no additional success.
>
> I have to admit, I'm very hesitant to start sanding down the carbon fiber
> steerer. It looks pretty thin as it is and I'm not sure how much tolerance
> there is for taking material off...
On all my bikes with a CK headset I find that the ring is a very tight
fit on the steerer.
Do you have the possibility to measure the inner diameter of the O-ring
when it is in the groove of top cap with a workshop microscope
(contactless)? It can't be compressed much when it is restrained in the
groove. If all else fail, bring it to a machine shop to enlarge the
diameter of the groove.
Lou
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Date: 05 Nov 2007 01:17:47
From: Kinky Cowboy
Subject: Re: Chris King no-threadset on carbon steerer, o-ring troubles
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On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:34:48 -0800, "Pete Grey" <pgrey@hotmail.com >
wrote:
>I'm having a bit of a battle with getting the top-cap over the steerer on a
>bike I'm building.
>This isn't my first King headset install, I've done maybe a half-dozen, plus
>many other headset installs.
>
>The darn o-ring is simply too tight. As in WAY too tight. I can get the
>cap maybe 2-3mm down the steerer (put a nice bevel on it already), and
>that's it, by hand.
>
>I can't budge it with a rubber mallet. I can move it by using my crown race
>setting tool, but it takes quite a tap to get it to move further down.
>Given that, I suspect I won't be able to adjust the headset even if I can
>get it snugged down, as there wouldn't be any play to even adjust?
>
>Any ideas? I've tried greasing the o-ring and steerer, also silicone lube
>on both. Same results with either, not going anywhere fast.
>
>This headset was on the exact same frame fork model# awhile back, but I got
>hit and it bent my headtube so I got a new fork to be safe on the rebuild.
>I'm puzzled, any help would be greatly appreciated....
>
If it goes together with the o-ring removed, make a plug exactly the
same OD as the steerer with a taper, and feed the top race/o-ring over
it to prevent the o-ring from hanging up on the edge of the steerer
tube.
Once you get it in place, adjustment is unlikely to be a problem as
the force exerted by even a modest torque on the 1mm pitch adjusting
screw far exceeds the stiffness or friction of the o-ring
Kinky Cowboy*
*Batteries not included
May contain traces of nuts
Your milage may vary
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Date: 04 Nov 2007 17:36:41
From: Pete Grey
Subject: Re: Chris King no-threadset on carbon steerer, o-ring troubles
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I should have been more clear.
It's not hanging up on the edge, I tapered it with some emery paper and can
get 2-3mm past it.
It's from that point on that it won't budge, without a fairly large
mechanical aid such as my crown race set tool and hammer.
-pete
>>"Kinky Cowboy" <user@domain.com> wrote in message
>>news:7kqsi3lp8o94c0lmgpl1q61fmremga5695@4ax.com...
>>
>
> If it goes together with the o-ring removed, make a plug exactly the
> same OD as the steerer with a taper, and feed the top race/o-ring over
> it to prevent the o-ring from hanging up on the edge of the steerer
> tube.
>
> Once you get it in place, adjustment is unlikely to be a problem as
> the force exerted by even a modest torque on the 1mm pitch adjusting
> screw far exceeds the stiffness or friction of the o-ring
> Kinky Cowboy*
>
> *Batteries not included
> May contain traces of nuts
> Your milage may vary
>
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Date: 05 Nov 2007 23:11:56
From: Kinky Cowboy
Subject: Re: Chris King no-threadset on carbon steerer, o-ring troubles
|
On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:36:41 -0800, "Pete Grey" <pgrey@hotmail.com >
wrote:
>I should have been more clear.
>It's not hanging up on the edge, I tapered it with some emery paper and can
>get 2-3mm past it.
>
>It's from that point on that it won't budge, without a fairly large
>mechanical aid such as my crown race set tool and hammer.
>
>-pete
>
Does it all go together with the o-ring removed? If it does, it seems
likely that you've got the wrong o-ring, or much less likely you have
a dud top race with a wrongly cut o-ring groove.
If it doesn't go together without the o-ring, you have an over sized
steerer tube ;-)
Kinky Cowboy*
*Batteries not included
May contain traces of nuts
Your milage may vary
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Date: 05 Nov 2007 18:00:23
From: Pete Grey
Subject: Re: Chris King no-threadset on carbon steerer, o-ring troubles
|
Yep, it assembles fine w/o the o-ring, that's how I measured to cut the
steerer.
I got an email with the tolerancs on the steerer from King customer-service,
mine is actually on the smaller side of what they say works.
I'm guessing my top-cap-groove or o-ring is cut a little small side.
-pete
"Kinky Cowboy" <user@domain.com > wrote in message
news:0h8vi3pjucibgd081pppka0o987lf97vv4@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:36:41 -0800, "Pete Grey" <pgrey@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I should have been more clear.
>>It's not hanging up on the edge, I tapered it with some emery paper and
>>can
>>get 2-3mm past it.
>>
>>It's from that point on that it won't budge, without a fairly large
>>mechanical aid such as my crown race set tool and hammer.
>>
>>-pete
>>
>
> Does it all go together with the o-ring removed? If it does, it seems
> likely that you've got the wrong o-ring, or much less likely you have
> a dud top race with a wrongly cut o-ring groove.
>
> If it doesn't go together without the o-ring, you have an over sized
> steerer tube ;-)
>
> Kinky Cowboy*
>
> *Batteries not included
> May contain traces of nuts
> Your milage may vary
>
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Date: 06 Nov 2007 20:48:38
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Chris King no-threadset on carbon steerer, o-ring troubles
|
Pete Grey wrote:
> Yep, it assembles fine w/o the o-ring, that's how I measured to cut the
> steerer.
>
> I got an email with the tolerancs on the steerer from King customer-service,
> mine is actually on the smaller side of what they say works.
>
> I'm guessing my top-cap-groove or o-ring is cut a little small side.
just grease the tube - the o-ring will then slide easily.
>
> -pete
>
> "Kinky Cowboy" <user@domain.com> wrote in message
> news:0h8vi3pjucibgd081pppka0o987lf97vv4@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:36:41 -0800, "Pete Grey" <pgrey@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I should have been more clear.
>>> It's not hanging up on the edge, I tapered it with some emery paper and
>>> can
>>> get 2-3mm past it.
>>>
>>> It's from that point on that it won't budge, without a fairly large
>>> mechanical aid such as my crown race set tool and hammer.
>>>
>>> -pete
>>>
>> Does it all go together with the o-ring removed? If it does, it seems
>> likely that you've got the wrong o-ring, or much less likely you have
>> a dud top race with a wrongly cut o-ring groove.
>>
>> If it doesn't go together without the o-ring, you have an over sized
>> steerer tube ;-)
>>
>> Kinky Cowboy*
>>
>> *Batteries not included
>> May contain traces of nuts
>> Your milage may vary
>>
>
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Date: 06 Nov 2007 21:58:14
From: Pete Grey
Subject: Re: Chris King no-threadset on carbon steerer, o-ring troubles
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Yep, I've tried that, both grease and silicone spray lube, seperately.
Same deal, still won't budge, almost like the grease had zero effect. I was
pretty shocked, I expected the same, that it'd simply slide on with the
grease...
-pete
"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net > wrote in message
news:89edncYZjLk73qzanZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@speakeasy.net...
> Pete Grey wrote:
>> Yep, it assembles fine w/o the o-ring, that's how I measured to cut the
>> steerer.
>>
>> I got an email with the tolerancs on the steerer from King
>> customer-service, mine is actually on the smaller side of what they say
>> works.
>>
>> I'm guessing my top-cap-groove or o-ring is cut a little small side.
>
> just grease the tube - the o-ring will then slide easily.
>
>
>>
>> -pete
>>
>> "Kinky Cowboy" <user@domain.com> wrote in message
>> news:0h8vi3pjucibgd081pppka0o987lf97vv4@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:36:41 -0800, "Pete Grey" <pgrey@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I should have been more clear.
>>>> It's not hanging up on the edge, I tapered it with some emery paper and
>>>> can
>>>> get 2-3mm past it.
>>>>
>>>> It's from that point on that it won't budge, without a fairly large
>>>> mechanical aid such as my crown race set tool and hammer.
>>>>
>>>> -pete
>>>>
>>> Does it all go together with the o-ring removed? If it does, it seems
>>> likely that you've got the wrong o-ring, or much less likely you have
>>> a dud top race with a wrongly cut o-ring groove.
>>>
>>> If it doesn't go together without the o-ring, you have an over sized
>>> steerer tube ;-)
>>>
>>> Kinky Cowboy*
>>>
>>> *Batteries not included
>>> May contain traces of nuts
>>> Your milage may vary
>>>
>>
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