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Date: 07 Jun 2007 23:14:18
From: Paul A. Steckler
Subject: Cleaning a chain on tour
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I'm going on a cross-country tour this summer. At home, I use a Performance
chain cleaning
tool with water and degreaser. That really gets the chain clean. To
minimize weight, I don't want to
carry that tool with me. What's a good way to clean the chain without such
a tool? Would an old
tootbrush work well?
-- Paul
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Date: 12 Jun 2007 22:56:43
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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pick up a bottle of 'Hollywood' safflower oil at the superduper
do not pour it on the chain
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Date: 12 Jun 2007 12:49:56
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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yep. all down hill from there
www.fourchevalleyfarms.com/id39.html
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Date: 12 Jun 2007 03:15:26
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Jun 11, 9:24 pm, Johnny Sunset <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Jun 11, 12:35 pm, Tom Nakashima wrote:
>
> > "Ozark Bicycle" wrote in message
>
> >news:1181581540.612710.139580@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > On Jun 11, 11:17 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> > >> Mike wrote:
> > >> > Wouldn't that [kerosene] make the coffee taste really bad?
>
> > >> You get used to it.
>
> > > Perhaps you should try using MEK and see how that 'goes down'.
>
> > Methyl Ethyl Ketone?
> > Not sure why a bike shop owner would even suggest this even as a
> > joke?
>
> MEK is yummy stuff: <http://www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/hlthef/methylet.html>.
>
> Carbon tetrachloride could also be used to flavor coffee: <http://www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/hlthef/carbonte.html>.
>
Hey, it all starts with a lil' shot of kerosene in a cuppa joe. Next
thing ya know, you're on the 'hard stuff'. Solvent Madness!!!
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Date: 12 Jun 2007 12:06:13
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:15:26 -0000, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
>On Jun 11, 9:24 pm, Johnny Sunset <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 11, 12:35 pm, Tom Nakashima wrote:
>>
>> > "Ozark Bicycle" wrote in message
>>
>> >news:1181581540.612710.139580@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > > On Jun 11, 11:17 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> > >> Mike wrote:
>> > >> > Wouldn't that [kerosene] make the coffee taste really bad?
>>
>> > >> You get used to it.
>>
>> > > Perhaps you should try using MEK and see how that 'goes down'.
>>
>> > Methyl Ethyl Ketone?
>> > Not sure why a bike shop owner would even suggest this even as a
>> > joke?
>>
>> MEK is yummy stuff: <http://www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/hlthef/methylet.html>.
>>
>> Carbon tetrachloride could also be used to flavor coffee: <http://www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/hlthef/carbonte.html>.
>>
>
>Hey, it all starts with a lil' shot of kerosene in a cuppa joe. Next
>thing ya know, you're on the 'hard stuff'. Solvent Madness!!!
Naptha, baby. Nothin' for me but sweet lighter fluid.
Ron
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 19:24:34
From: Johnny Sunset
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Jun 11, 12:35 pm, Tom Nakashima wrote:
> "Ozark Bicycle" wrote in message
>
> news:1181581540.612710.139580@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Jun 11, 11:17 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> >> Mike wrote:
> >> > Wouldn't that make the coffee taste really bad?
>
> >> You get used to it.
>
> > Perhaps you should try using MEK and see how that 'goes down'.
>
> Methyl Ethyl Ketone?
> Not sure why a bike shop owner would even suggest this even as a
> joke?
MEK is yummy stuff: <http://www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/hlthef/methylet.html >.
Carbon tetrachloride could also be used to flavor coffee: <http://
www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/hlthef/carbonte.html >.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 23:36:11
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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Harris posted an excellent suggestion with the Tri-Flo
Harris posted an excellent suggestion with the Tri-Flo
Harris posted an excellent suggestion with the Tri-Flo
and I was raising a dichotomy.
the tri-flo does clean the chain with its low viscosity drip out.
better than wax by far!
a good brushing then another application does occupy a middle ground
between ignoring the dirt and cleaning with a sram link and soda
bottle filled with citrus (how does one get the chain out of the
bottle)
rain rain rain rain
speaking of which if it rains you gotta take the chain off and clean
it
the tri-flo will not remove the crud inside the rollers
nor will tri-flo be effective if the chain is jammed with grit
tri-flo is effective only if used every day!!!!!!
catch 22
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 21:26:20
From:
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Jun 8, 7:32 am, "russellseat...@yahoo.com"
<russellseat...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Jun 8, 1:14 am, "Paul A. Steckler" <s...@stecksoft.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm going on a cross-country tour this summer. At home, I use a Performance
> > chain cleaning
> > tool with water and degreaser. That really gets the chain clean. To
> > minimize weight, I don't want to
> > carry that tool with me. What's a good way to clean the chain without such
> > a tool? Would an old
> > tootbrush work well?
>
> > -- Paul
>
> When I was on a summer tour back in the early 1990s, I stopped at a
> bike shop midway through and bought one of the plastic clean chaining
> brush things, like your Performance tool or the Finish Line one. The
> kit came with the degreaser. I then put the small plastic thing in
> the bottom of the panniers and carried it the rest of the way. I
> supose you could use it and toss it.
Heck just buy a chain and enjoy your precious time away from work.
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 20:29:40
From:
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Jun 8, 6:16 pm, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Jun 8, 7:54 pm, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > wax sucks. wax is for dirt not road. wax sucks. yeah yeah wax sucks
>
> Sounds like one of Dustin Hoffman's lines in "Rainman".
I think it's J Geils Band
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 18:47:24
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Jun 11, 1:20 pm, "Tom Nakashima" <t...@slac.stanford.edu > wrote:
> "Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1181585419.202752.99080@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 11, 12:35 pm, "Tom Nakashima" <t...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
> >> "Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1181581540.612710.139580@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On Jun 11, 11:17 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Mike wrote:
> >> >> > Wouldn't that make the coffee taste really bad?
>
> >> >> You get used to it.
>
> >> > Perhaps you should try using MEK and see how that 'goes down'.
>
> >> Methyl Ethyl Ketone?
> >> Not sure why a bike shop owner would even suggest this even as a
> >> joke?
>
> > It was just a joke. If the kerosene didn't ruin the taste of his
> > coffee......
>
> > I think everyone here is smart enough not to take any suggestion about
> > actually using MEK to clean a chain as a serious comment.
>
> Well it is a solvent, and one could possibly use it as a chain cleaner as
> one cyclist here did, not reading the MSDS sheet first.
If I suggested that a good way to wash a bike was by tossing it in a
fast moving stream and then pulling it out an hour later, would any
reasonable person do it?
(I know there are people who need those directions telling them to
remove the plastic wrapper from the frozen pizza before placing it in
the oven, but.......)
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 12:34:17
From: Tom Nakashima
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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"Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote in message
news:1181587644.173160.261390@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 11, 1:20 pm, "Tom Nakashima" <t...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
>> "Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1181585419.202752.99080@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 11, 12:35 pm, "Tom Nakashima" <t...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
>> >> "Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote in
>> >> message
>>
>> >>news:1181581540.612710.139580@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > On Jun 11, 11:17 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Mike wrote:
>> >> >> > Wouldn't that make the coffee taste really bad?
>>
>> >> >> You get used to it.
>>
>> >> > Perhaps you should try using MEK and see how that 'goes down'.
>>
>> >> Methyl Ethyl Ketone?
>> >> Not sure why a bike shop owner would even suggest this even as a
>> >> joke?
>>
>> > It was just a joke. If the kerosene didn't ruin the taste of his
>> > coffee......
>>
>> > I think everyone here is smart enough not to take any suggestion about
>> > actually using MEK to clean a chain as a serious comment.
>>
>> Well it is a solvent, and one could possibly use it as a chain cleaner as
>> one cyclist here did, not reading the MSDS sheet first.
>
>
>
> If I suggested that a good way to wash a bike was by tossing it in a
> fast moving stream and then pulling it out an hour later, would any
> reasonable person do it?
What? Has nothing to do with MEK.
>
> (I know there are people who need those directions telling them to
> remove the plastic wrapper from the frozen pizza before placing it in
> the oven, but.......)
>
Neither does unwrapping plastic from a frozen pizza before sticking
in the oven.
MEK is a toxic solvent and one could be mislead or the chemical mistaken to
be used as a chain cleaner as I pointed out one person did here. Just
surprised the suggestion came from a bike shop owner, even if it was a joke.
-tom
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 18:10:19
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Jun 11, 12:35 pm, "Tom Nakashima" <t...@slac.stanford.edu > wrote:
> "Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1181581540.612710.139580@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Jun 11, 11:17 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> >> Mike wrote:
> >> > Wouldn't that make the coffee taste really bad?
>
> >> You get used to it.
>
> > Perhaps you should try using MEK and see how that 'goes down'.
>
> Methyl Ethyl Ketone?
> Not sure why a bike shop owner would even suggest this even as a
> joke?
>
It was just a joke. If the kerosene didn't ruin the taste of his
coffee......
I think everyone here is smart enough not to take any suggestion about
actually using MEK to clean a chain as a serious comment.
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Date: 12 Jun 2007 15:50:52
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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In article
<1181585419.202752.99080@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >,
Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Jun 11, 12:35 pm, "Tom Nakashima" <t...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
> > "Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:1181581540.612710.139580@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > On Jun 11, 11:17 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> > >> Mike wrote:
> > >> > Wouldn't that make the coffee taste really bad?
> >
> > >> You get used to it.
> >
> > > Perhaps you should try using MEK and see how that 'goes down'.
> >
> > Methyl Ethyl Ketone?
> > Not sure why a bike shop owner would even suggest this even as a
> > joke?
> >
>
> It was just a joke. If the kerosene didn't ruin the taste of his
> coffee......
>
> I think everyone here is smart enough not to take any suggestion about
> actually using MEK to clean a chain as a serious comment.
MEK is often used to remove caffeine from coffee beans.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 11:20:20
From: Tom Nakashima
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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"Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote in message
news:1181585419.202752.99080@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 11, 12:35 pm, "Tom Nakashima" <t...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
>> "Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1181581540.612710.139580@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On Jun 11, 11:17 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> >> Mike wrote:
>> >> > Wouldn't that make the coffee taste really bad?
>>
>> >> You get used to it.
>>
>> > Perhaps you should try using MEK and see how that 'goes down'.
>>
>> Methyl Ethyl Ketone?
>> Not sure why a bike shop owner would even suggest this even as a
>> joke?
>>
>
> It was just a joke. If the kerosene didn't ruin the taste of his
> coffee......
>
> I think everyone here is smart enough not to take any suggestion about
> actually using MEK to clean a chain as a serious comment.
>
Well it is a solvent, and one could possibly use it as a chain cleaner as
one cyclist here did, not reading the MSDS sheet first.
-tom
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 17:05:40
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Jun 11, 11:17 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com > wrote:
> Mike wrote:
> > Wouldn't that make the coffee taste really bad?
>
> You get used to it.
Perhaps you should try using MEK and see how that 'goes down'.
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 10:35:18
From: Tom Nakashima
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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"Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote in message
news:1181581540.612710.139580@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 11, 11:17 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> Mike wrote:
>> > Wouldn't that make the coffee taste really bad?
>>
>> You get used to it.
>
> Perhaps you should try using MEK and see how that 'goes down'.
>
Methyl Ethyl Ketone?
Not sure why a bike shop owner would even suggest this even as a
joke?
-tom
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 13:11:33
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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Dennis Harris writes >
> if you're one of those folks who obsesses about keeping their
> bike spotless & chain clean instead of enjoying the scenery
> coming down a long hill, you shouldn't be touring.
May we quote you on this?
Incroyable! Sacre Blue!
Touring is uhuhuh like going into orbit every morning, and night if
yawl doan wanna screw up the morning.
order order order organization efficiency attention
with whom do you tour? a herd of pigs?
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Date: 09 Jun 2007 22:55:34
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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a pile of clean don't clean it-try both
leaving thinner or citrus plus spoor cross country is not in order!
another cheap DIY beyond the $2 chain guard is
THE GARBAGE BAG CHAINGUARD
tested exclusively and extensively by our head tester.
you will ask: what is a GARBAGE BAG CHAINGUARD?
no problem!
one 30 gallon 1.1 mil (114L) at 2'6" x 2'9" or
76.2cm x83.8cm x 28um black bag "with drawstring enclosure system"
ones used here are 3 ply 2.85 for 15. the guard uses one so that
leaves several for camping and one for Holloween.
IS THERE A BOTTLE CAGE ON THE SEAT TUBE? If not, install one with hose
clamps. Our fabrication department when not laying about installs all
clamps atop poly bottle strips after hosing that tube area down with
linseed oil.
Roll the bag into a 2" wide tube.
tie the tube's bottom to the bottle cage
run the bag inside the seat stays and tie off on the rack with the
drawstrings so the bag tube is more or less over the cassette. a prong
of something may be improvised from the rack to move the bag more over
the cassette
the function here is at the tire adjacent to the seatpost: the bag
will gently rub against both tire wall and rim.
use duct tape strips to aid in forming less bag tube diameters for
clearances.
Our fabrication department added a poly bottle guard below and inside
the bag at the tire seat post juncture as an L shape extending from
middle bag tube to below the chain. Attached with a hose clamp on a
poly tab run off the main L shape.
another poly shape, a wide U is fit rear of the chainstays on a center
bolt run thru the chainstay connecting tube, deflecting some tire
flung dirt away from the brake mechanism and below.
The rig holds chain dirt accumulation down to a dull roar, enough to
maintain one's sanity thru a ride.
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Date: 09 Jun 2007 11:14:49
From: Tim McNamara
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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In article <O8Gdnb7_E5BLb_XbnZ2dnUVZ_tKjnZ2d@comcast.com >,
"Paul A. Steckler" <steck@stecksoft.com > wrote:
> I'm going on a cross-country tour this summer. At home, I use a
> Performance chain cleaning tool with water and degreaser. That
> really gets the chain clean. To minimize weight, I don't want to
> carry that tool with me. What's a good way to clean the chain
> without such a tool? Would an old tootbrush work well?
Paul, you're not going to want to clean your chain on tour. You're
going to be tired at the end of the day and you're not going to want to
futz around with stuff like that. Wipe the chain down with a rag, put
some new lube on, keep riding. You'll get 3000 miles out of a chain
that way, which will get you across the country. Unless you're talking
about riding across the old Soviet Union.
On tour people do minimal bike maintenance. You've just spent 14 hours
riding your bike, all you want to do is eat and sleep. It takes a lot
of time to unpack and set up camp in the evening and a long time to
break down camp and repack in the morning. Time and energy for cleaning
the chain will be lacking.
Start with a new, clean chain. Wipe it off and lube it once in a while.
Just ride. Hope this helps.
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Date: 10 Jun 2007 22:05:48
From: Dennis P. Harris
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 11:14:49 -0500 in rec.bicycles.tech, Tim
McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net > wrote:
> Paul, you're not going to want to clean your chain on tour.
what he said. even while touring on unpaved roads up here north
of 58deg, we just carry an old toothbrush to knock off the gross
grit, and an extra bottle of tri-flo, best chain lube in the far
north until you get below 0degF. brush off the grit, dampen a
rag with diesel at the first gas station in 134 miles and wipe
down the chain, slather it in tri-flo, clean yer rims, and you're
on the way. takes maybe 10 minutes if you're not in a hurry.
a little cleaning is all you'll want to do on tour. it makes
sense to tune the bike with new cassette & chain and train with
your actual loads for a couple of weeks before your trip, so that
you can start your tour with a tuned bike and balanced load, and
your bod is used to it. if you're cycling in an environment
where it's dry and you're rarely anywhere where there is a lot of
dust or loose road grit, you may never need to clean or lube your
chain.
if you're one of those folks who obsesses about keeping their
bike spotless & chain clean instead of enjoying the scenery
coming down a long hill, you shouldn't be touring.
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Date: 09 Jun 2007 16:14:23
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Jun 9, 8:09 am, Qui si parla Campagnolo <p...@vecchios.com > wrote:
> On Jun 8, 8:45 am, Ozark Bicycle
>
>
>
> <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 8, 7:33 am, Qui si parla Campagnolo <p...@vecchios.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 8, 12:14 am, "Paul A. Steckler" <s...@stecksoft.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I'm going on a cross-country tour this summer. At home, I use a Performance
> > > > chain cleaning
> > > > tool with water and degreaser. That really gets the chain clean. To
> > > > minimize weight, I don't want to
> > > > carry that tool with me. What's a good way to clean the chain without such
> > > > a tool? Would an old
> > > > tootbrush work well?
>
> > > > -- Paul
>
> > > Snap link in the chain to be able to disconnect it and take it
> > > off..plastic bottle, small amount of something like mineral
> > > spirits...shake, dry, put on, lube, sleep, eat, ride...
>
> > Or, (using snaplinks) carry an extra chain (sized, lubed, ready-to-go)
> > in a ziploc bag. When chain #1 gets too grungy, install chain #2. Take
> > chain #1 home with ya in the ziploc, or, if it's too worn, toss it.
> > An extra chain doesn't weigh much or take up much room and it's also
> > good "insurance" should something happen to the other chain.
>
> Pretty interesting that for people that really ride a LOT, when
> touring, weight means not so much..but those that ride on Sunday,
> their 25 miles from the coffee shop, weight of a Record chain vs. a
> Veloce chain is a holy grail....I had a guy ask the weight of a seat
> binder bolt, whether to get Campagnolo or Sugino.
You should have told him: "The Campy weighs 10g less, however, it's a
LOT less aero than the Sugino." thus paralyzing him with the ensuing
congnitive dissonance. Then, it's a simple matter of lifting his
wallet, removing a fiver, and putting the Sugino bolt in his hand
before slapping the shit out of him to bring him back to this world.
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Date: 09 Jun 2007 14:33:40
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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adsvertising grounds knowledge. read the catalog. ozozozozozozozozoz.
very early on I wuz looking for a way to protect a spec seat from rack
vandalism ( had a vandal with tools!)
the LBS showed me a seat clamp. I thought they were pulling my leg
caws the clamp weighed -3 oz
i couldn't figure what the piece was made of.
ozozozozozozoz may equal status? Colorado Oz
not meeting 20 miles out banging along at 20 mph
butbutbut the TOTAL lack of chain guards for touring ???
this I dunno?
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Date: 09 Jun 2007 06:09:28
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Jun 8, 8:45 am, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Jun 8, 7:33 am, Qui si parla Campagnolo <p...@vecchios.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 8, 12:14 am, "Paul A. Steckler" <s...@stecksoft.com> wrote:
>
> > > I'm going on a cross-country tour this summer. At home, I use a Performance
> > > chain cleaning
> > > tool with water and degreaser. That really gets the chain clean. To
> > > minimize weight, I don't want to
> > > carry that tool with me. What's a good way to clean the chain without such
> > > a tool? Would an old
> > > tootbrush work well?
>
> > > -- Paul
>
> > Snap link in the chain to be able to disconnect it and take it
> > off..plastic bottle, small amount of something like mineral
> > spirits...shake, dry, put on, lube, sleep, eat, ride...
>
> Or, (using snaplinks) carry an extra chain (sized, lubed, ready-to-go)
> in a ziploc bag. When chain #1 gets too grungy, install chain #2. Take
> chain #1 home with ya in the ziploc, or, if it's too worn, toss it.
> An extra chain doesn't weigh much or take up much room and it's also
> good "insurance" should something happen to the other chain.
Pretty interesting that for people that really ride a LOT, when
touring, weight means not so much..but those that ride on Sunday,
their 25 miles from the coffee shop, weight of a Record chain vs. a
Veloce chain is a holy grail....I had a guy ask the weight of a seat
binder bolt, whether to get Campagnolo or Sugino. Retail sometimes
wears me out, today more than yesterday, this year more than
last..maybe it's time to pull the plug.....
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 09:16:04
From: SMS
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
> ....I had a guy ask the weight of a seat
> binder bolt, whether to get Campagnolo or Sugino.
Well, what was the answer?
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Date: 09 Jun 2007 02:48:18
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Jun 8, 7:54 pm, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> wax sucks. wax is for dirt not road. wax sucks. yeah yeah wax sucks
>
> friction test:
> uzing finish line epic oil on an 8 speed standard CR 52/44, dirt is
> fine quartz sand (sugar sand), 50-70 mile legs at 16-18 mph up and
Meh, whatevah. My fendered fixie which requires a diet of wax to
protect my jumpsuits from staining is mainly used to fetch stuff that
I shouldn't be consuming. Beer, brussel sprouts, crack rocks, nose
candy, and mars bars. After I've had my fix behind the local library,
I don't even give a proper shit about rolling resistance, much less
chain wear.
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Date: 09 Jun 2007 01:36:14
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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>
> Sounds like
Wax is for dirt bikes not for the road
You take the colnago
I'll take the lite speed
Pour on some valvo
No tellin what they'll do
Valvo yeah yeah
Rattlin round muh chain
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Date: 09 Jun 2007 01:16:53
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Jun 8, 7:54 pm, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> wax sucks. wax is for dirt not road. wax sucks. yeah yeah wax sucks
>
Sounds like one of Dustin Hoffman's lines in "Rainman".
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Date: 09 Jun 2007 01:11:44
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Jun 8, 7:45 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jun 8, 5:37 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
>
>
>
>
> <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 8, 5:20 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > > In article <f4bb7701...@news1.newsguy.com>,
> > > "Michael Dart" <mrd...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Paul A. Steckler wrote:
> > > > > I'm going on a cross-country tour this summer. At home, I use a
> > > > > Performance chain cleaning
> > > > > tool with water and degreaser. That really gets the chain clean. To
> > > > > minimize weight, I don't want to
> > > > > carry that tool with me. What's a good way to clean the chain
> > > > > without such a tool? Would an old
> > > > > tootbrush work well?
>
> > > > > -- Paul
>
> > > > Use this for lube and never have to clean your chain again...
>
> > > >http://www.alssports.com/ecomminc/prodpgs/1/DUMONDE_TECH_ORIGINAL_762...
>
> > > this is where I stopped reading:
>
> > > "To get the best results from BCL, first clean your
> > > chain and dry it thoroughly prior to the first
> > > application. This effectively primes the surface for
> > > the "plating" effect..."
>
> > Did that pin your BS Meter? It pinned mine.
>
> Does it have directional lubrication? If so, that's no BS, mister!
>
"solvents and degreasers will remove the [...] plating." (!!!!!!!)
Geez, why can't they just say "coating" instead of "plating"?
>
>
> > > > We use it off road and it's amazing.
>
> > $9.95 for 4oz; I know I'm amazed.
>
> PMSL. While I use White Lightning on the bike that I ride in pants, my
> standard lube costs something like $2/L to make. *g*-
The sad reality is that they probably sell more of it at $9.95/4oz
than they would at $9.95/gal ("this stuff is expensive! It *must* be
good.")
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Date: 09 Jun 2007 00:54:27
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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wax sucks. wax is for dirt not road. wax sucks. yeah yeah wax sucks
friction test:
uzing finish line epic oil on an 8 speed standard CR 52/44, dirt is
fine quartz sand (sugar sand), 50-70 mile legs at 16-18 mph up and
down wind 10 mph
3 grams (of sand) lost 2 to 3 gears thru friction losses!
try valvoline synthetic transmission at NAPA
fabricate a complete chaingaurd from 5 gallon plastic motor oil jugs
use the $2 guard for the front wheel spray, wrap a plastic guard
around the rear wheels front: chainstays to seat stays.
ITS TWO-THREE GEARS ON 3 GRAMS! try formulating that energy loss cross
country!
wax sucks yeah yeah wax sucks
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Date: 08 Jun 2007 17:45:25
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Jun 8, 5:37 pm, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Jun 8, 5:20 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article <f4bb7701...@news1.newsguy.com>,
> > "Michael Dart" <mrd...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
> > > Paul A. Steckler wrote:
> > > > I'm going on a cross-country tour this summer. At home, I use a
> > > > Performance chain cleaning
> > > > tool with water and degreaser. That really gets the chain clean. To
> > > > minimize weight, I don't want to
> > > > carry that tool with me. What's a good way to clean the chain
> > > > without such a tool? Would an old
> > > > tootbrush work well?
>
> > > > -- Paul
>
> > > Use this for lube and never have to clean your chain again...
>
> > >http://www.alssports.com/ecomminc/prodpgs/1/DUMONDE_TECH_ORIGINAL_762...
>
> > this is where I stopped reading:
>
> > "To get the best results from BCL, first clean your
> > chain and dry it thoroughly prior to the first
> > application. This effectively primes the surface for
> > the "plating" effect..."
>
> Did that pin your BS Meter? It pinned mine.
Does it have directional lubrication? If so, that's no BS, mister!
>
> > > We use it off road and it's amazing.
>
> $9.95 for 4oz; I know I'm amazed.
PMSL. While I use White Lightning on the bike that I ride in pants, my
standard lube costs something like $2/L to make. *g*
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Date: 08 Jun 2007 22:37:34
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Jun 8, 5:20 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net > wrote:
> In article <f4bb7701...@news1.newsguy.com>,
> "Michael Dart" <mrd...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
> > Paul A. Steckler wrote:
> > > I'm going on a cross-country tour this summer. At home, I use a
> > > Performance chain cleaning
> > > tool with water and degreaser. That really gets the chain clean. To
> > > minimize weight, I don't want to
> > > carry that tool with me. What's a good way to clean the chain
> > > without such a tool? Would an old
> > > tootbrush work well?
>
> > > -- Paul
>
> > Use this for lube and never have to clean your chain again...
>
> >http://www.alssports.com/ecomminc/prodpgs/1/DUMONDE_TECH_ORIGINAL_762...
>
> this is where I stopped reading:
>
> "To get the best results from BCL, first clean your
> chain and dry it thoroughly prior to the first
> application. This effectively primes the surface for
> the "plating" effect..."
Did that pin your BS Meter? It pinned mine.
>
> > We use it off road and it's amazing.
>
$9.95 for 4oz; I know I'm amazed.
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Date: 08 Jun 2007 22:28:35
From: Robert Lorenzini
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 23:14:18 -0700, Paul A. Steckler <steck@stecksoft.com > wrote:
> I'm going on a cross-country tour this summer. At home, I use a Performance
> chain cleaning
> tool with water and degreaser. That really gets the chain clean. To
> minimize weight, I don't want to
> carry that tool with me. What's a good way to clean the chain without such
> a tool? Would an old
> tootbrush work well?
What a pain. I use Pedro's ice wax and all you need to do is wipe
down the chain with a rag and apply. I ride 150+ miles/week and
apply it every weekend. I get 2.5k miles to the chain and I don't
understand why people go to heroic efforts to drive the fine
dirt into their rollers. I guess it's one of those Campy/Shimano
things.
Bob
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Date: 08 Jun 2007 17:46:35
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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you need ah complete coverage chainguard
but try
DIY CHAIN GUARD $2 PLUS
from RBT archives at search the group right upper
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Date: 08 Jun 2007 17:29:44
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Jun 8, 11:20 am, "Jay Beattie" <jbeat...@lindsayhart.com > wrote:
> "Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote in
> messagenews:1181313959.432837.50530@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Jun 8, 7:33 am, Qui si parla Campagnolo <p...@vecchios.com>
> > wrote:
> >> On Jun 8, 12:14 am, "Paul A. Steckler" <s...@stecksoft.com> wrote:
>
> >> > I'm going on a cross-country tour this summer. At home, I use a
> >> > Performance
> >> > chain cleaning
> >> > tool with water and degreaser. That really gets the chain clean.
> >> > To
> >> > minimize weight, I don't want to
> >> > carry that tool with me. What's a good way to clean the chain
> >> > without such
> >> > a tool? Would an old
> >> > tootbrush work well?
>
> >> > -- Paul
>
> >> Snap link in the chain to be able to disconnect it and take it
> >> off..plastic bottle, small amount of something like mineral
> >> spirits...shake, dry, put on, lube, sleep, eat, ride...
>
> > Or, (using snaplinks) carry an extra chain (sized, lubed,
> > ready-to-go)
> > in a ziploc bag. When chain #1 gets too grungy, install chain #2.
> > Take
> > chain #1 home with ya in the ziploc, or, if it's too worn, toss it.
> > An extra chain doesn't weigh much or take up much room and it's also
> > good "insurance" should something happen to the other chain.
>
> I just take a few links and a chain tool which allows me to remove the
> chain when the snap link is gunked up and doesn't really work -- which
> is most of the time. The only time I broke a chain on tour, I just
> shortened it up and rode to the next town and bought a chain (I wasn't
> carrying any spare links). The last two chains I broke just riding
> around broke at the snap link.
>
> I clean my chain with white gas or whatever stove fuel I had hanging
> around (MSR burns anything). Use a plastic pop bottle or water bottle
> like Peter said.
Well, there are things I'd rather do whilst on a tour than clean a
chain. I prefer to just pull a clean one out of my stuff, if needed.
YMMV.
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Date: 08 Jun 2007 11:29:41
From: Jay Beattie
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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"Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote in
message news:1181323784.779412.4130@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 8, 11:20 am, "Jay Beattie" <jbeat...@lindsayhart.com> wrote:
>> "Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote in
<snip >
> Well, there are things I'd rather do whilst on a tour than clean a
> chain. I prefer to just pull a clean one out of my stuff, if needed.
> YMMV.
YMMV really applies to touring, too. While riding across the U.S. in
'81, I rode a few days with a guy who had nothing but a sleeping bag
with clothes stuffed in it, a bivy sack and a handlebar bag with a few
necessaries. This guy was camping and not credit card touring. I met
another guy who had panniers on every possible tube, rack, bar, post,
etc. He candidly admitted that he liked to carry a lot of stuff. I
met him riding through a very hot part of Wyoming. I asked him how he
coped with the heat, and he said "I smoke a lot of dope." Interesting
approach. We were riding opposite directions, and I don't know what
happened to him. He could still be out there somewhere. -- Jay
Beattie.
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Date: 08 Jun 2007 17:26:13
From: =?ISO-8859-9?Q?Kir=E1ly?=
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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Paul A. Steckler <steck@stecksoft.com > wrote:
> I'm going on a cross-country tour this summer. At home, I use a Performance
> chain cleaning
> tool with water and degreaser. That really gets the chain clean. To
> minimize weight, I don't want to
> carry that tool with me. What's a good way to clean the chain without such
> a tool? Would an old
> tootbrush work well?
I have often stopped at an auto mechanic while on tour, and asked to use
their parts washer. Any mechanic will have one. It's like a sink that
dispenses cleaning solvent. It has a built-in method for filtering
and re-using the solvent. Cleaning the chain with it takes a minute
and is mess-free. The mechanics have always been happy to let me use
it.
--
K.
Lang may your lum reek.
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Date: 08 Jun 2007 08:31:34
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Jun 8, 9:45 am, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Jun 8, 7:33 am, Qui si parla Campagnolo <p...@vecchios.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 8, 12:14 am, "Paul A. Steckler" <s...@stecksoft.com> wrote:
>
> > > I'm going on a cross-country tour this summer. At home, I use a Performance
> > > chain cleaning
> > > tool with water and degreaser. That really gets the chain clean. To
> > > minimize weight, I don't want to
> > > carry that tool with me. What's a good way to clean the chain without such
> > > a tool? Would an old
> > > tootbrush work well?
>
> > > -- Paul
>
> > Snap link in the chain to be able to disconnect it and take it
> > off..plastic bottle, small amount of something like mineral
> > spirits...shake, dry, put on, lube, sleep, eat, ride...
>
> Or, (using snaplinks) carry an extra chain (sized, lubed, ready-to-go)
> in a ziploc bag. When chain #1 gets too grungy, install chain #2. Take
> chain #1 home with ya in the ziploc, or, if it's too worn, toss it.
> An extra chain doesn't weigh much or take up much room and it's also
> good "insurance" should something happen to the other chain.
To add to that, start with a brand new chain. Wipe the outside clean
with a solvent soaked cloth. Paint thinner or WD40 works fine. The
trick is to keep the thick factory lube on the inside. Wipe off the
chain occasionally while under tour with a dry rag when it's covered
with schmutz. You may well be able to do the entire tour without
messing about with your chain--I've got one bike that's done 1500
miles on factory lube and still doesn't need chain servicing. In dry
conditions of course. Definitely ditto the advice about a spare chain.
Alternately, bring a small bottle of a wax based lube and drip it in
every 500 miles or so. You don't need to clean your chain with such
stuff. Your drivetrain may look pretty gross at the end of a tour
because of wax build up, but who wants to clean chains when on tour?
There are plenty of options, I currently have bikes running oil, wax,
and factory lube. Whatever works.
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Date: 08 Jun 2007 14:45:59
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Jun 8, 7:33 am, Qui si parla Campagnolo <p...@vecchios.com > wrote:
> On Jun 8, 12:14 am, "Paul A. Steckler" <s...@stecksoft.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm going on a cross-country tour this summer. At home, I use a Performance
> > chain cleaning
> > tool with water and degreaser. That really gets the chain clean. To
> > minimize weight, I don't want to
> > carry that tool with me. What's a good way to clean the chain without such
> > a tool? Would an old
> > tootbrush work well?
>
> > -- Paul
>
> Snap link in the chain to be able to disconnect it and take it
> off..plastic bottle, small amount of something like mineral
> spirits...shake, dry, put on, lube, sleep, eat, ride...
Or, (using snaplinks) carry an extra chain (sized, lubed, ready-to-go)
in a ziploc bag. When chain #1 gets too grungy, install chain #2. Take
chain #1 home with ya in the ziploc, or, if it's too worn, toss it.
An extra chain doesn't weigh much or take up much room and it's also
good "insurance" should something happen to the other chain.
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Date: 08 Jun 2007 09:20:16
From: Jay Beattie
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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"Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote in
message news:1181313959.432837.50530@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 8, 7:33 am, Qui si parla Campagnolo <p...@vecchios.com>
> wrote:
>> On Jun 8, 12:14 am, "Paul A. Steckler" <s...@stecksoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I'm going on a cross-country tour this summer. At home, I use a
>> > Performance
>> > chain cleaning
>> > tool with water and degreaser. That really gets the chain clean.
>> > To
>> > minimize weight, I don't want to
>> > carry that tool with me. What's a good way to clean the chain
>> > without such
>> > a tool? Would an old
>> > tootbrush work well?
>>
>> > -- Paul
>>
>> Snap link in the chain to be able to disconnect it and take it
>> off..plastic bottle, small amount of something like mineral
>> spirits...shake, dry, put on, lube, sleep, eat, ride...
>
> Or, (using snaplinks) carry an extra chain (sized, lubed,
> ready-to-go)
> in a ziploc bag. When chain #1 gets too grungy, install chain #2.
> Take
> chain #1 home with ya in the ziploc, or, if it's too worn, toss it.
> An extra chain doesn't weigh much or take up much room and it's also
> good "insurance" should something happen to the other chain.
>
I just take a few links and a chain tool which allows me to remove the
chain when the snap link is gunked up and doesn't really work -- which
is most of the time. The only time I broke a chain on tour, I just
shortened it up and rode to the next town and bought a chain (I wasn't
carrying any spare links). The last two chains I broke just riding
around broke at the snap link.
I clean my chain with white gas or whatever stove fuel I had hanging
around (MSR burns anything). Use a plastic pop bottle or water bottle
like Peter said. -- Jay Beattie.
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Date: 08 Jun 2007 10:07:25
From: SMS
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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Jay Beattie wrote:
> I clean my chain with white gas or whatever stove fuel I had hanging
> around (MSR burns anything). Use a plastic pop bottle or water bottle
> like Peter said. -- Jay Beattie.
Yes, this would work fine, though white gas is explosive. I'd use a
stove that can burn kerosene, and use kerosene as the solvent as it's
not explosive, though in a sealed plastic bottle with the chain I don't
think white gas is all that dangerous.
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Date: 08 Jun 2007 07:32:10
From: russellseaton1@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Jun 8, 1:14 am, "Paul A. Steckler" <s...@stecksoft.com > wrote:
> I'm going on a cross-country tour this summer. At home, I use a Performance
> chain cleaning
> tool with water and degreaser. That really gets the chain clean. To
> minimize weight, I don't want to
> carry that tool with me. What's a good way to clean the chain without such
> a tool? Would an old
> tootbrush work well?
>
> -- Paul
When I was on a summer tour back in the early 1990s, I stopped at a
bike shop midway through and bought one of the plastic clean chaining
brush things, like your Performance tool or the Finish Line one. The
kit came with the degreaser. I then put the small plastic thing in
the bottom of the panniers and carried it the rest of the way. I
supose you could use it and toss it.
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Date: 08 Jun 2007 05:33:27
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On Jun 8, 12:14 am, "Paul A. Steckler" <s...@stecksoft.com > wrote:
> I'm going on a cross-country tour this summer. At home, I use a Performance
> chain cleaning
> tool with water and degreaser. That really gets the chain clean. To
> minimize weight, I don't want to
> carry that tool with me. What's a good way to clean the chain without such
> a tool? Would an old
> tootbrush work well?
>
> -- Paul
Snap link in the chain to be able to disconnect it and take it
off..plastic bottle, small amount of something like mineral
spirits...shake, dry, put on, lube, sleep, eat, ride...
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Date: 08 Jun 2007 06:32:11
From: Michael Dart
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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Paul A. Steckler wrote:
> I'm going on a cross-country tour this summer. At home, I use a
> Performance chain cleaning
> tool with water and degreaser. That really gets the chain clean. To
> minimize weight, I don't want to
> carry that tool with me. What's a good way to clean the chain
> without such a tool? Would an old
> tootbrush work well?
>
> -- Paul
Use this for lube and never have to clean your chain again...
http://www.alssports.com/ecomminc/prodpgs/1/DUMONDE_TECH_ORIGINAL_7623.asp
We use it off road and it's amazing.
Mike
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Date: 08 Jun 2007 15:20:35
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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In article <f4bb77013c0@news1.newsguy.com >,
"Michael Dart" <mrdart@newsguy.com > wrote:
> Paul A. Steckler wrote:
> > I'm going on a cross-country tour this summer. At home, I use a
> > Performance chain cleaning
> > tool with water and degreaser. That really gets the chain clean. To
> > minimize weight, I don't want to
> > carry that tool with me. What's a good way to clean the chain
> > without such a tool? Would an old
> > tootbrush work well?
> >
> > -- Paul
>
> Use this for lube and never have to clean your chain again...
>
> http://www.alssports.com/ecomminc/prodpgs/1/DUMONDE_TECH_ORIGINAL_7623.asp
this is where I stopped reading:
"To get the best results from BCL, first clean your
chain and dry it thoroughly prior to the first
application. This effectively primes the surface for
the "plating" effect..."
> We use it off road and it's amazing.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 08 Jun 2007 07:59:07
From: Joel Mayes
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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On 2007-06-08, Paul A. Steckler <steck@stecksoft.com > wrote:
> I'm going on a cross-country tour this summer. At home, I use a Performance
> chain cleaning
> tool with water and degreaser. That really gets the chain clean. To
> minimize weight, I don't want to
> carry that tool with me. What's a good way to clean the chain without such
> a tool? Would an old
> tootbrush work well?
>
> -- Paul
If you're riding on sealed roads and clean regularly a cloth and solvent
does an acceptabley light-weight job. The idea being to clean the junk
off before it has a chance to build up and work into the rollers.
Cheers
Joel
--
Human Powered Cycles
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Date: 08 Jun 2007 00:00:32
From: Garry Lee
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
|
This is what I do.
I go to a petrol station, pick up an empty engine oil container out of
their trash can (there's always some oil in it) get a litre of diesel
or whatever amount it holds in it, take the bike to a trashy place and
pour this over the chain while rotating. The diesel cleans the chain
and evaporates, leaving the oil. Dirty technique but effective.
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Date: 08 Jun 2007 10:04:26
From: SMS
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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Garry Lee wrote:
> This is what I do.
>
> I go to a petrol station, pick up an empty engine oil container out of
> their trash can (there's always some oil in it) get a litre of diesel
> or whatever amount it holds in it, take the bike to a trashy place and
> pour this over the chain while rotating. The diesel cleans the chain
> and evaporates, leaving the oil. Dirty technique but effective.
Good idea, but he might put a master link in the chain, and do something
similar. You can always find an empty plastic container (1 liter soda
bottle or something like that) to put some diesel fuel into it with the
chain. Shake, rinse, repeat. Then use some spray chain lube, foaming
motorcycle chain lube is the best, chain saw oil is also good. Getting
rid of the dirty solvent is an issue though.
Maybe use a stove that will burn kerosene, then use kerosene for the
solvent, filter the used solvent through a coffee filter, and burn the
solvent.
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 14:14:31
From: Mike
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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In article <46698c08$0$27217$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net >, scharf.steven@geemail.com says...
> Garry Lee wrote:
> > This is what I do.
> >
> > I go to a petrol station, pick up an empty engine oil container out of
> > their trash can (there's always some oil in it) get a litre of diesel
> > or whatever amount it holds in it, take the bike to a trashy place and
> > pour this over the chain while rotating. The diesel cleans the chain
> > and evaporates, leaving the oil. Dirty technique but effective.
>
> Good idea, but he might put a master link in the chain, and do something
> similar. You can always find an empty plastic container (1 liter soda
> bottle or something like that) to put some diesel fuel into it with the
> chain. Shake, rinse, repeat. Then use some spray chain lube, foaming
> motorcycle chain lube is the best, chain saw oil is also good. Getting
> rid of the dirty solvent is an issue though.
>
> Maybe use a stove that will burn kerosene, then use kerosene for the
> solvent, filter the used solvent through a coffee filter, and burn the
> solvent.
>
Wouldn't that make the coffee taste really bad?
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 09:17:17
From: SMS
Subject: Re: Cleaning a chain on tour
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Mike wrote:
> Wouldn't that make the coffee taste really bad?
You get used to it.
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