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Date: 17 Oct 2007 09:28:35
From: Nick
Subject: Disk rotor material?
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Dear All,
Does anyone know what grade of stainless steel is typically used for
bicycle disk brake rotors?
Thanks for your help.
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Date: 19 Oct 2007 07:46:19
From: Nick
Subject: Re: jim beam's identity revealed!
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That's very helpful, thanks guys!
I may well just copy existing designs but add little personal touches.
Cheers,
Nick
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Date: 19 Oct 2007 06:51:13
From:
Subject: Re: jim beam's identity revealed! (was: Disk rotor material?)
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On Oct 19, 5:36 am, Nick <n...@albion-manufacturing.com > wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We have a laser cutter at work and I work as a designer so was
> thinking of designing my own rotors.
>
> I have tried looking on the internet to see if I could find out the
> material used without success.
>
> I *think* we use 316 grade in various thicknesses but am unsure if
> this will be suitable.
>
> Perhaps it doesn't really matter!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick
T316 or T304/304L will be fine if you're just looking for something
cheap to screw around with, but it's not going to wear too well. Full
hard T301 would be ideal, but it's very expensive.
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Date: 19 Oct 2007 02:36:19
From: Nick
Subject: Re: jim beam's identity revealed! (was: Disk rotor material?)
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Hello all,
We have a laser cutter at work and I work as a designer so was
thinking of designing my own rotors.
I have tried looking on the internet to see if I could find out the
material used without success.
I *think* we use 316 grade in various thicknesses but am unsure if
this will be suitable.
Perhaps it doesn't really matter!
Thanks,
Nick
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Date: 22 Oct 2007 10:16:26
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: jim beam's identity revealed! (was: Disk rotor material?)
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"Nick" <nick@albion-manufacturing.com > wrote in message
news:1192786579.049138.127330@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Hello all,
>
> We have a laser cutter at work and I work as a designer so was
> thinking of designing my own rotors.
>
> I have tried looking on the internet to see if I could find out the
> material used without success.
>
> I *think* we use 316 grade in various thicknesses but am unsure if
> this will be suitable.
>
> Perhaps it doesn't really matter!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick
>
I don't know what kind of metal is used in bicycle disc brake rotors.
About 46RC is the maximum hardness for 300 series stainless steels like
303, 304 and 316 (18/8 Inox). They can only be hardened by cold working
processes such as cold rolling, drawing or bending operations. At 46RC
these metals are not going to have a lot of abrasion resistance.
For an experiment thin sheet metal made from any of the 300 series
stainless steels will probably work fine. Thin sheet made of these metals
is usually in the mid to high 30s on the Rockwell C scale.
Some of the 400 series stainless steels can be hardened by heat treatment
to the mid 50s on the Rockwell hardness scale. A common hand file has a
Rockwell hardness of around 57-62RC.
440C Stainless can be hardened up to 67RC. This is the stainless used for
knives and other cutlery.
There are specialty abrasion resistant steels and other metals that also
have corrosion resistant properties but they will be hard to find in the
thickness required for bike brake rotors.
Chas.
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Date: 19 Oct 2007 06:52:54
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: jim beam's identity revealed!
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Nick wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We have a laser cutter at work and I work as a designer so was
> thinking of designing my own rotors.
>
> I have tried looking on the internet to see if I could find out the
> material used without success.
>
> I *think* we use 316 grade in various thicknesses but am unsure if
> this will be suitable.
>
> Perhaps it doesn't really matter!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick
>
>
>
it will matter. too hard, and you'll lose braking efficiency. too
soft, it won't last. it also needs to not gall.
unfortunately, i don't know what grade the material is, but if you have
an old disk, give it to your material supplier, and say you want more of
the same. they should be able to provide.
two more things:
1. when you're done, you need to make sure the friction surfaces are
parallel - if they're not, you're going to get some really grabby brakes.
2. be very aware of fatigue when designing. you'll notice that all
existing designs avoid sharp angles in their layout, and have spiders
where the load arms work in compression, not tension when braking. this
is all to mitigate fatigue - emulate these principles!
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Date: 19 Oct 2007 12:07:00
From: Jambo
Subject: Re: jim beam's identity revealed!
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"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net > wrote in message
news:da6dncYcc_wqK4XanZ2dnUVZ_sSlnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
> it will matter. too hard, and you'll lose braking efficiency. too soft,
> it won't last. it also needs to not gall.
Excellent. Stainless steel can be too soft. Idiot.
> unfortunately, i don't know what grade the material is, but if you have an
> old disk, give it to your material supplier, and say you want more of the
> same. they should be able to provide.
Duh.
> two more things:
>
> 1. when you're done, you need to make sure the friction surfaces are
> parallel - if they're not, you're going to get some really grabby brakes.
Really? Master of the bleeding obvious, aren't we?
> 2. be very aware of fatigue when designing. you'll notice that all
> existing designs avoid sharp angles in their layout, and have spiders
> where the load arms work in compression, not tension when braking. this
> is all to mitigate fatigue - emulate these principles!
Really beamboy, your bullshit keeps astounding. Where do you come up with
these?
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Date: 18 Oct 2007 05:57:28
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Disk rotor material?
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Nick wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Does anyone know what grade of stainless steel is typically used for
> bicycle disk brake rotors?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
why?
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Date: 18 Oct 2007 20:07:20
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: jim beam's identity revealed! (was: Disk rotor material?)
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"jim beam" wrote:
> Nick wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Does anyone know what grade of stainless steel is typically used for
>> bicycle disk brake rotors?
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
> why?
"jim beam" is actually Prisoner No. 6.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore!
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Date: 18 Oct 2007 21:46:35
From: Jambo
Subject: Re: jim beam's identity revealed! (was: Disk rotor material?)
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"Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:ff900a$8i1$2@registered.motzarella.org...
> "jim beam" wrote:
>> Nick wrote:
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what grade of stainless steel is typically used for
>>> bicycle disk brake rotors?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>
>> why?
>
> "jim beam" is actually Prisoner No. 6.
That would explain his "classified materials lecture over 30 years ago" on
non-existent "sikorski" helo composite rotors...
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Date: 18 Oct 2007 10:33:05
From: Jambo
Subject: Re: Disk rotor material?
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"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net > wrote in message
news:6MedncW0Ev6lxYranZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
> Nick wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Does anyone know what grade of stainless steel is typically used for
>> bicycle disk brake rotors?
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
> why?
Why not, idiot?
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