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Date: 09 May 2007 07:25:19
From: Doug B.
Subject: Ergo cable routing info
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I suspect I am over-thinking this, but...
Can anyone point me to a good diagram showing derailleur and brake
cable routing on the handlebars for Chorus Ergo?
Preferably before and after taping the bars.
Thanks.
Doug B.
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Date: 11 May 2007 11:13:06
From:
Subject: Re: Ergo cable routing info
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On May 9, 2:32 pm, Lou Holtman <lholremovet...@planet.nl > wrote:
> Doug B. wrote:
> > I suspect I am over-thinking this, but...
> > Can anyone point me to a good diagram showing derailleur and brake
> > cable routing on the handlebars for Chorus Ergo?
> > Preferably before and after taping the bars.
> > Thanks.
> > Doug B.
>
> http://home.planet.nl/~holtm072/plaatjes/CampaCables.jpg
>
> Lou
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Wow, nice...tiles! I know some like their garage clean, but I would
have thought that was your kitchen, had it not been for the garage
door.
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Date: 11 May 2007 18:02:07
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Ergo cable routing info
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lightech7@gmail.com wrote:
> On May 9, 2:32 pm, Lou Holtman <lholremovet...@planet.nl> wrote:
>> Doug B. wrote:
>>> I suspect I am over-thinking this, but...
>>> Can anyone point me to a good diagram showing derailleur and brake
>>> cable routing on the handlebars for Chorus Ergo?
>>> Preferably before and after taping the bars.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Doug B.
>>
>> http://home.planet.nl/~holtm072/plaatjes/CampaCables.jpg
>>
>> Lou
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>
> Wow, nice...tiles! I know some like their garage clean, but I would
> have thought that was your kitchen, had it not been for the garage
> door.
Yikes, no kidding. You could operate on that floor. (Disgusting!)
Pigpen Bill
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Date: 10 May 2007 20:00:15
From:
Subject: Re: Ergo cable routing info
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On May 10, 9:37 pm, Doug B. <d...@toast.net > wrote:
> On 9 May 2007 16:21:37 -0700, duncanmc...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
>
>
> >On May 9, 9:25 pm, Doug B. <d...@toast.net> wrote:
> >> I suspect I am over-thinking this, but...
> >> Can anyone point me to a good diagram showing derailleur and brake
> >> cable routing on the handlebars for Chorus Ergo?
> >> Preferably before and after taping the bars.
> >> Thanks.
> >> Doug B.
>
> >Noone has yet mentioned cross-over der routing, which may be an option
> >for you.
>
> >I just upgraded my DT shifter commuter to campy ergo (actually,
> >shimergo):
> >single-groove bars, both housings on front side, der to opposite sides
> >of headtube, which allows a nice single bend (no reverse bending) to
> >downtube cable stops (on brazeons). Cables cross again under downtube
> >(make sure you have clearance here to tube).
>
> >I doubled up on bar tape immediately behind the hoods, since the
> >cables were a bit lumpy there.
>
> I would like to see a picture of this installation. Don't the cables
> rub together under the downtube?
Yes, cables "rub" at a single point, but we're talking two tight wires
crossing.. as many installation guides point out, this friction is
negligible compared with the friction in the housings.
You just have to be sure your downtube (and stops) are the right sort
of orientation to allow the cables free run without rubbing on the
down tube (ie: won't work on oversized tubing). Mine were close
(possibility of them slapping on the tube), so I put a couple of 5mm
pieces of silicon tubing over the cable at the close points (sort of
like the anti-rub cable grommets you can buy).
No pictures, I afraid, but its fairly simple. Both housings run along
front of bars under the tape and exit at same point (2 per side) at
end of bar tape
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Date: 09 May 2007 16:21:37
From:
Subject: Re: Ergo cable routing info
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On May 9, 9:25 pm, Doug B. <d...@toast.net > wrote:
> I suspect I am over-thinking this, but...
> Can anyone point me to a good diagram showing derailleur and brake
> cable routing on the handlebars for Chorus Ergo?
> Preferably before and after taping the bars.
> Thanks.
> Doug B.
Noone has yet mentioned cross-over der routing, which may be an option
for you.
I just upgraded my DT shifter commuter to campy ergo (actually,
shimergo):
single-groove bars, both housings on front side, der to opposite sides
of headtube, which allows a nice single bend (no reverse bending) to
downtube cable stops (on brazeons). Cables cross again under downtube
(make sure you have clearance here to tube).
I doubled up on bar tape immediately behind the hoods, since the
cables were a bit lumpy there.
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Date: 10 May 2007 07:37:04
From: Doug B.
Subject: Re: Ergo cable routing info
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On 9 May 2007 16:21:37 -0700, duncanmcrae@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>On May 9, 9:25 pm, Doug B. <d...@toast.net> wrote:
>> I suspect I am over-thinking this, but...
>> Can anyone point me to a good diagram showing derailleur and brake
>> cable routing on the handlebars for Chorus Ergo?
>> Preferably before and after taping the bars.
>> Thanks.
>> Doug B.
>
>
>Noone has yet mentioned cross-over der routing, which may be an option
>for you.
>
>I just upgraded my DT shifter commuter to campy ergo (actually,
>shimergo):
>single-groove bars, both housings on front side, der to opposite sides
>of headtube, which allows a nice single bend (no reverse bending) to
>downtube cable stops (on brazeons). Cables cross again under downtube
>(make sure you have clearance here to tube).
>
>I doubled up on bar tape immediately behind the hoods, since the
>cables were a bit lumpy there.
>
I would like to see a picture of this installation. Don't the cables
rub together under the downtube?
Thanks.
Doug B.
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Date: 09 May 2007 20:32:08
From: Lou Holtman
Subject: Re: Ergo cable routing info
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Doug B. wrote:
> I suspect I am over-thinking this, but...
> Can anyone point me to a good diagram showing derailleur and brake
> cable routing on the handlebars for Chorus Ergo?
> Preferably before and after taping the bars.
> Thanks.
> Doug B.
http://home.planet.nl/~holtm072/plaatjes/CampaCables.jpg
Lou
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Date: 10 May 2007 07:35:04
From: Doug B.
Subject: Re: Ergo cable routing info
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On Wed, 09 May 2007 20:32:08 +0200, Lou Holtman
<lholremovethis@planet.nl > wrote:
>Doug B. wrote:
>> I suspect I am over-thinking this, but...
>> Can anyone point me to a good diagram showing derailleur and brake
>> cable routing on the handlebars for Chorus Ergo?
>> Preferably before and after taping the bars.
>> Thanks.
>> Doug B.
>
>
>http://home.planet.nl/~holtm072/plaatjes/CampaCables.jpg
>
>Lou
Thanks for the picture.
I see your der cables are on the back of the handlebar. Is that a
double groove bar? Where on the bar does the cable cross to the back?
Directly behind the shifter, or farther along the bar?
And does it go under or over the bar? Seems under would make more
sense, but not necessarily practical.
Thanks again
Doug B.
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Date: 10 May 2007 18:08:11
From: Lou Holtman
Subject: Re: Ergo cable routing info
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Doug B. wrote:
> On Wed, 09 May 2007 20:32:08 +0200, Lou Holtman
> <lholremovethis@planet.nl> wrote:
>
>> Doug B. wrote:
>>> I suspect I am over-thinking this, but...
>>> Can anyone point me to a good diagram showing derailleur and brake
>>> cable routing on the handlebars for Chorus Ergo?
>>> Preferably before and after taping the bars.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Doug B.
>>
>> http://home.planet.nl/~holtm072/plaatjes/CampaCables.jpg
>>
>> Lou
> Thanks for the picture.
> I see your der cables are on the back of the handlebar. Is that a
> double groove bar?
No, Ritchey only thinks 'Shimano'. Dumb Yanks ;-)
But it's not a problem.
> Where on the bar does the cable cross to the back?
> Directly behind the shifter, or farther along the bar?
> And does it go under or over the bar? Seems under would make more
> sense, but not necessarily practical.
> Thanks again
> Doug B.
Geez, you really over-thinking this. Just follow the instructions on the
instruction sheet. It's really straightforward.
http://home.planet.nl/~holtm072/plaatjes/CampaCablesFront.jpg
http://home.planet.nl/~holtm072/plaatjes/CampaCablesRear.jpg
Lou
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Date: 09 May 2007 13:48:29
From: Carl Sundquist
Subject: Re: Ergo cable routing info
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"Lou Holtman" <lholremovethis@planet.nl > wrote in message
news:464213c4$1@news.nb.nu...
> Doug B. wrote:
>> I suspect I am over-thinking this, but...
>> Can anyone point me to a good diagram showing derailleur and brake
>> cable routing on the handlebars for Chorus Ergo?
>> Preferably before and after taping the bars.
>> Thanks.
>> Doug B.
>
>
> http://home.planet.nl/~holtm072/plaatjes/CampaCables.jpg
Those cables look suspiciously like Nokons ;-)
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Date: 09 May 2007 21:02:15
From: Lou Holtman
Subject: Re: Ergo cable routing info
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Carl Sundquist wrote:
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> "Lou Holtman" <lholremovethis@planet.nl> wrote in message
> news:464213c4$1@news.nb.nu...
>> Doug B. wrote:
>>> I suspect I am over-thinking this, but...
>>> Can anyone point me to a good diagram showing derailleur and brake
>>> cable routing on the handlebars for Chorus Ergo?
>>> Preferably before and after taping the bars.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Doug B.
>>
>>
>> http://home.planet.nl/~holtm072/plaatjes/CampaCables.jpg
>
> Those cables look suspiciously like Nokons ;-)
Yes and they are replaced by Campy cables now. You can't say I have no
experience with them. What a crap.
Lou
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Date: 09 May 2007 20:22:15
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Ergo cable routing info
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In article <46421ad3$1@news.nb.nu >,
Lou Holtman <lholremovethis@planet.nl > wrote:
> Carl Sundquist wrote:
> >
> > "Lou Holtman" <lholremovethis@planet.nl> wrote in message
> > news:464213c4$1@news.nb.nu...
> >> Doug B. wrote:
> >>> I suspect I am over-thinking this, but...
> >>> Can anyone point me to a good diagram showing derailleur and brake
> >>> cable routing on the handlebars for Chorus Ergo?
> >>> Preferably before and after taping the bars.
> >>> Thanks.
> >>> Doug B.
> >>
> >>
> >> http://home.planet.nl/~holtm072/plaatjes/CampaCables.jpg
> >
> > Those cables look suspiciously like Nokons ;-)
>
>
> Yes and they are replaced by Campy cables now. You can't say I have no
> experience with them. What a crap.
>
> Lou
Also Lou: Scott carbon frame and fork, Record carbon shifters, Zero G
brakes, Nokon cables? I think you just outed yourself as a weight weenie.
The WCS bar, at over 200 grams, has got to go,
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 09 May 2007 23:21:48
From: Lou Holtman
Subject: Re: Ergo cable routing info
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Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> In article <46421ad3$1@news.nb.nu>,
> Lou Holtman <lholremovethis@planet.nl> wrote:
>
>> Carl Sundquist wrote:
>>> "Lou Holtman" <lholremovethis@planet.nl> wrote in message
>>> news:464213c4$1@news.nb.nu...
>>>> Doug B. wrote:
>>>>> I suspect I am over-thinking this, but...
>>>>> Can anyone point me to a good diagram showing derailleur and brake
>>>>> cable routing on the handlebars for Chorus Ergo?
>>>>> Preferably before and after taping the bars.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> Doug B.
>>>>
>>>> http://home.planet.nl/~holtm072/plaatjes/CampaCables.jpg
>>> Those cables look suspiciously like Nokons ;-)
>>
>> Yes and they are replaced by Campy cables now. You can't say I have no
>> experience with them. What a crap.
>>
>> Lou
>
> Also Lou: Scott carbon frame and fork, Record carbon shifters, Zero G
> brakes, Nokon cables? I think you just outed yourself as a weight weenie.
>
> The WCS bar, at over 200 grams, has got to go,
>
No, that is a mistake that many people make. There are very very few OS
CF handlebars and stems that are lighter than the aluminum Ritchey WCS
and I don't want those on my bike. And what is more important I like the
shape of the Ritchey classic bars.
Did you notice the Thomsom Elite seatpost? Same story here.
BTW I sold the Zero gravity brakes (for a very good price) on Ebay and
replaced them with the Record Skeletons (still money left). I switch
between wheels with aluminum rims and CF rims and I have to replace the
pads. That's is a real PIA with the Zero G brakes and a 5 min job with
the Campy brakes. So now I'm stuck with a 6.9 kg heavy bike including
pedals, waterbottle cages and the 230 grams heavy saddle I like. All
reliable of the shelf stuff.
Weightweenie? Nah.. It was my project bike. I still have a 9.0 kg
Litespeed that I equally like.
Cheers,
Lou
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Date: 09 May 2007 13:44:29
From: Paul Kopit
Subject: Re: Ergo cable routing info
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On Wed, 09 May 2007 07:25:19 -0400, Doug B. <dvgb@toast.net > wrote:
>I suspect I am over-thinking this, but...
>Can anyone point me to a good diagram showing derailleur and brake
>cable routing on the handlebars for Chorus Ergo?
>Preferably before and after taping the bars.
>Thanks.
>Doug B.
All housing in front or 1 derailleur housing back and other 2 in
front. Cut both derailleur housings to be same lenght, ~22-24" on
56-58 cm frame. Both derailleur housings closest to frame. Front
Brake housing forward of derailleur housings. Rear brake cable most
forward and wrapping outside other cables. The rear brake cable
should be long enough so that when you turn your bars totally right it
doesn't pull. If it is sloppy looking of squishes the derailleur
housings, shorten each of the derailleur housings the exact same
amount.
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Date: 09 May 2007 05:36:37
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Ergo cable routing info
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On May 9, 5:25 am, Doug B. <d...@toast.net > wrote:
> I suspect I am over-thinking this, but...
> Can anyone point me to a good diagram showing derailleur and brake
> cable routing on the handlebars for Chorus Ergo?
> Preferably before and after taping the bars.
> Thanks.
> Doug B.
No pix but if 2 groove handlebar and downtube cable stops, der housing
behind handlebar and behind brake housing. If single groove or
headtube cable stops, der housing in front of hbar and in front of
brake housing, and then a wee bit of bar tape along aft grove if 2
groove handlebar. Remember, a wee bit long is better than a wee bit
short.
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