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Date: 08 Oct 2007 05:42:30
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com
Subject: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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WOOD
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/interbike0710/Northwave_wood_midsole
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Date: 17 Oct 2007 14:10:42
From: sergio
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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On 17 Ott, 22:06, "* * Chas" <verktygj...@aol.spamski.com > wrote:
> There was not enough material to nail cleats on so
You'll envy me, now.
Last year I found myself with a cleat that had almost separated from
below, the heads of the nails being worn out.
I was some 40 kms from home.
With a couple of screws, and the help of a screwdriver, I got
everything back into place.
Sergio
Pisa
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Date: 09 Oct 2007 07:41:09
From: tom luttrell
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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On Oct 8, 8:33 am, "Mike" <mik...@ix.netcom.com > wrote:
> > Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
> > wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
>
> There were a number of wood-soled shoes in the mid-70s, including... darn.
> Having a brain malfunction and can't remember the name of the shoes I wore
> back then. But they were wood-soled and not Duegis.
>
> --Mike--
> Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com"Gary Jacobson" <gjacob...@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> news:470a32b1$0$4989$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
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>
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> > "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <pe...@vecchios.com> wrote in
> > messagenews:1191847350.508411.48460@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> >> WOOD
>
> >>http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/index.p...
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> > Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
> > wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
>
> > Gary Jacobson
> > Rosendale, NY
I have a pair of wood-soled Vittorias. Also some Duegis, prefer the
Vittorias for comfort.
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Date: 09 Oct 2007 06:53:07
From: russellseaton1@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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On Oct 8, 8:37 am, "Gary Jacobson" <gjacob...@hvc.rr.com > wrote:
> "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <pe...@vecchios.com> wrote in
> messagenews:1191847350.508411.48460@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > WOOD
>
> >http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/index.p...
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> Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
> wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
>
> Gary Jacobson
> Rosendale, NY
I bought and returned a pair of the wood soled leather Duegi shoes
from Bike Warehouse back in the mid 1980s. Too narrow. Bought a pair
of the new Duegi shoes from Bike Warehouse instead. Plastic soles
with bolt on cleats. The plastic sole shoes had the three hole Look
pattern in them. Don't recall if the wood soled shoes had bolt on or
nail on cleats. There were two or three versions of the new Duegi
shoes, each with a different tightening method. Laces, the ones I
got. Two velcro straps. And some reason I think another model too.
Nashbar had a couple models of these mid 1980s Duegi shoes on their
website sometime in the last year or two. NOS find from somewhere. I
still have my mid 1980s leather Duegi shoes. I know they have the
three hole Look pattern in the plastic soles because I put a Time
Equipe adaptor plate onto them to use the Time Equipe cleats in 1992.
I am now using the three hole SPD-SL cleats so I could use these shoes
today. But I bought them a bit too small and they never did stretch.
I learned its best to get properly fitting cycling shoes.
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Date: 09 Oct 2007 05:26:11
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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On Oct 8, 9:33 am, "Mike" <mik...@ix.netcom.com > wrote:
> > Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
> > wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
>
> There were a number of wood-soled shoes in the mid-70s, including... darn.
> Having a brain malfunction and can't remember the name of the shoes I wore
> back then. But they were wood-soled and not Duegis.
>
> --Mike--
> Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com"Gary Jacobson" <gjacob...@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
>
Have a pair of wood soled Duegis..sitting in the shop window along
with the SuperRecord DeRosa..not very comfy but cool looking!!
>
>
>
> > "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <pe...@vecchios.com> wrote in
> > messagenews:1191847350.508411.48460@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> >> WOOD
>
> >>http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/index.p...
>
> > Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
> > wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
>
> > Gary Jacobson
> > Rosendale, NY
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Date: 09 Oct 2007 00:16:49
From: sergio
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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On Oct 9, 3:04 am, "David L. Johnson" <david.john...@lehigh.edu >
But I think they were very stiff, so maybe they
> had a steel shank or something in them.
Absolutely, yes!
As far as I know, all well made shoes have that steel shank in place
for adequate stiffness. My shoes have it, too.
I think Andrew Muzi could tell us something about Maresi shoes; he
should have some in stock.
Cleats? I still use them and have some ready as replacements, all to
be nailed into the soles. The very worst I recall were an Anquetil
marked model: beautiful to look at, in steel and slippery ... .
Cheers
Sergio
Pisa
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 12:50:17
From: sergio
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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On 8 Ott, 21:43, carlfo...@comcast.net wrote:
> Surely some of our Dutch posters should know if wooden shoes are
> hotter or colder than normal shoes.
Dearest Carl,
what's a normal soe, anyhow?
I know well that my swedish friend used to wear scandinavian clogs
even on the fiercest winter days in NY City (with wool socks, to be
sure).
Sergio
Pisa
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 13:43:40
From:
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 05:42:30 -0700, "Qui si parla
Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <peter@vecchios.com > wrote:
>WOOD
>
>http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/interbike0710/Northwave_wood_midsole
Dear Peter,
I wonder why they think wood offers "better heat dissipation."
My first reaction was that wood is known for _not_ dissipating heat,
which is why we put it between our hands and hot kitchen pots, pans,
and kettles.
But then I wondered if the marketers might be right? What if wood,
wonderful insulator though it is, isn't as good as the rubber and
canvas in shoes?
Surely some of our Dutch posters should know if wooden shoes are
hotter or colder than normal shoes.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 22:35:16
From: M-gineering
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> Surely some of our Dutch posters should know if wooden shoes are
> hotter or colder than normal shoes.
Much reduced heattransfer to a cold floor
Fit any cleat with ordinary woodscrews
Meets regulations for safety footwear in the workplace
;)
--
/Marten
info(apestaartje)m-gineering(punt)nl
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 12:31:06
From: sergio
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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On 8 Ott, 18:59, Ozark Bicycle
> The leather damps the road buzz coming up through the stiff wooden
> sole. ;-)
The all leather shoes I made and have been using everyday since about
six years ago still make a creaking sound when the weather is very
dry.
To scare the riders I occasionally ride with:
'Are your tubes pulling out of the lugs, by any chance?'
Sergio
Pisa
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 11:43:23
From:
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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> We used to use Detto Pietro shoes in the sixties in New York. We had to nail
> the aluminum cleats in place. Anyone remember them as well??
>
> Bruce
Yes I do, alas.
Art. 74
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 14:24:33
From: Bellsouth Ijit 2.0 - Global Warming Edition ®
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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"Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <peter@vecchios.com > wrote in
message news:1191847350.508411.48460@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> WOOD
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/interbike0710/Northwave_wood_midsole
>
Ash or maple?
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 11:08:17
From: Jay Beattie
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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On Oct 8, 6:37 am, "Gary Jacobson" <gjacob...@hvc.rr.com > wrote:
> "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <pe...@vecchios.com> wrote in
> messagenews:1191847350.508411.48460@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > WOOD
>
> >http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/index.p...
>
> Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
> wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
Great shoes -- birch soles. The wood was not consistently strong,
though, and you could get a pair that would last forever, or you could
get a pair (or one) that broke after a few hundred miles.
Another good thing about the Duegis is that they came with a bolt-on
cleat -- a conventional slotted cleat, but one that you did not have
to nail on. It was among the first to do that, and then all the nylon
sole shoes came along.
Also, I don't think that the Detto's had wood soles. I think they
were straight leather. I had some straight leather soles -- I think
Dettos -- which were like old baseball shoes. I also had a pair of
Italias that had steel stiffeners.
The Duegis were the first (and only) single "component" that made a
big difference in power output (or perceived power output). You can
drop a bundle on a light saddle, or post or pedals, but that will not
make the same kind of day and night difference I expereinced when I
switched from leather soles to wood soles. -- Jay Beattie.
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 21:04:23
From: David L. Johnson
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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Jay Beattie wrote:
> Also, I don't think that the Detto's had wood soles. I think they
> were straight leather. I had some straight leather soles -- I think
> Dettos -- which were like old baseball shoes. I also had a pair of
> Italias that had steel stiffeners.
I was trying to remember about that. I don't remember the Detto's
having wooden soles. But I think they were very stiff, so maybe they
had a steel shank or something in them.
--
David L. Johnson
Arguing with an engineer is like mud wrestling with a pig...
You soon find out the pig likes it!
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 11:03:33
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com wrote:
> WOOD
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/interbike0710/Northwave_wood_midsole
That a shoe sole or you just glad to see us?
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 22:04:22
From: Tom \Johnny Sunset\ Sherman
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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Bill Sornson wrote:
> Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com wrote:
>> WOOD
>>
>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/interbike0710/Northwave_wood_midsole
>
> That a shoe sole or you just glad to see us?
Family newsgroup, buddy.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
A Real Cyclist [TM] keeps at least one bicycle in the bedroom.
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 10:38:49
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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On Oct 8, 12:06 pm, "Bruce Gilbert" <bgilbertREM...@hal-pc.org > wrote:
> "Mike" <mik...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>
> news:R3sOi.769$Pv2.677@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
>
> > > Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
> > > wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
>
> > There were a number of wood-soled shoes in the mid-70s, including... darn.
> > Having a brain malfunction and can't remember the name of the shoes I wore
> > back then. But they were wood-soled and not Duegis.
>
> > --Mike--
> > Chain Reaction Bicycles
> >www.ChainReaction.com
> > "Gary Jacobson" <gjacob...@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
> >news:470a32b1$0$4989$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> > > "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <pe...@vecchios.com> wrote in
> > > messagenews:1191847350.508411.48460@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> > >> WOOD
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/index.p...
>
>
>
> > > Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
> > > wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
>
> > > Gary Jacobson
> > > Rosendale, NY
>
> We used to use Detto Pietro shoes in the sixties in New York. We had to nail
> the aluminum cleats in place. Anyone remember them as well??
>
> Bruce
The Dettos are the ones I remember; beautifully finished wooden soles.
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 09:59:24
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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On Oct 8, 11:06 am, "Leo Lichtman" <l.licht...@worldnet.att.net >
wrote:
> "Gary Jacobson" wrote: Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper
>
> leather shoe with a full wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> If you want a bike that has high compliance and is stiff, use a wood-leather
> composite.
The leather damps the road buzz coming up through the stiff wooden
sole. ;-)
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 08:16:13
From: Paul Cassel
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com wrote:
> WOOD
>
Dutch influence in bike tech.
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 09:37:53
From: Gary Jacobson
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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"Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <peter@vecchios.com > wrote in
message news:1191847350.508411.48460@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> WOOD
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/interbike0710/Northwave_wood_midsole
Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
Gary Jacobson
Rosendale, NY
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 14:05:26
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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> "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <peter@vecchios.com> wrote in
> message news:1191847350.508411.48460@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>> WOOD
>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/interbike0710/Northwave_wood_midsole
Gary Jacobson wrote:
> Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
> wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
Yep that's the one. Some riders (our attorney f'rinstance) are still
looking for those. Sadly, after 40, one's feet grow and the old shoes
get tight.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 16:06:17
From: Leo Lichtman
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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"Gary Jacobson" wrote: Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper
leather shoe with a full wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If you want a bike that has high compliance and is stiff, use a wood-leather
composite.
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 08:33:01
From: Mike
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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> Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
> wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
There were a number of wood-soled shoes in the mid-70s, including... darn.
Having a brain malfunction and can't remember the name of the shoes I wore
back then. But they were wood-soled and not Duegis.
--Mike--
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
"Gary Jacobson" <gjacobson@hvc.rr.com > wrote in message
news:470a32b1$0$4989$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <peter@vecchios.com> wrote in
> message news:1191847350.508411.48460@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>> WOOD
>>
>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/interbike0710/Northwave_wood_midsole
>
> Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
> wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
>
> Gary Jacobson
> Rosendale, NY
>
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 20:59:29
From: David L. Johnson
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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Mike wrote:
>> Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
>> wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
>
> There were a number of wood-soled shoes in the mid-70s, including... darn.
> Having a brain malfunction and can't remember the name of the shoes I wore
> back then. But they were wood-soled and not Duegis.
Detto?
--
David L. Johnson
Arguing with an engineer is like mud wrestling with a pig...
You soon find out the pig likes it!
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 18:23:14
From: John Thompson
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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On 2007-10-08, Mike <mikej1@ix.netcom.com > wrote:
>> Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
>> wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
>
> There were a number of wood-soled shoes in the mid-70s, including... darn.
> Having a brain malfunction and can't remember the name of the shoes I wore
> back then. But they were wood-soled and not Duegis.
I think Maresi made a wood sole shoe. Perhaps Detto Pietro as well.
I still regularly use (as in "several times a week") my 30 year old
Rivat shoes, but they have a plastic sole.
--
John (john@os2.dhs.org)
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 12:06:29
From: Bruce Gilbert
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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"Mike" <mikej1@ix.netcom.com > wrote in message
news:R3sOi.769$Pv2.677@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
> > Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
> > wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
>
> There were a number of wood-soled shoes in the mid-70s, including... darn.
> Having a brain malfunction and can't remember the name of the shoes I wore
> back then. But they were wood-soled and not Duegis.
>
> --Mike--
> Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReaction.com
> "Gary Jacobson" <gjacobson@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:470a32b1$0$4989$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> >
> > "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <peter@vecchios.com> wrote in
> > message news:1191847350.508411.48460@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> >> WOOD
> >>
> >>
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/interbike0710/Northwave_wood_midsole
> >
> > Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
> > wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
> >
> > Gary Jacobson
> > Rosendale, NY
> >
>
We used to use Detto Pietro shoes in the sixties in New York. We had to nail
the aluminum cleats in place. Anyone remember them as well??
Bruce
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Date: 17 Oct 2007 13:06:08
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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"Bruce Gilbert" <bgilbertREMOVE@hal-pc.org > wrote in message
news:13gkoru4s3pgf30@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Mike" <mikej1@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:R3sOi.769$Pv2.677@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
> > > Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a
full
> > > wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
> >
> > There were a number of wood-soled shoes in the mid-70s, including...
darn.
> > Having a brain malfunction and can't remember the name of the shoes I
wore
> > back then. But they were wood-soled and not Duegis.
> >
> > --Mike--
> > Chain Reaction Bicycles
> > www.ChainReaction.com
> > "Gary Jacobson" <gjacobson@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:470a32b1$0$4989$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> > >
> > > "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <peter@vecchios.com>
wrote in
> > > message news:1191847350.508411.48460@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> > >> WOOD
> > >>
> > >>
>
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/interbike0710/Northwave_wood_midsole
> > >
> > > Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a
full
> > > wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
> > >
> > > Gary Jacobson
> > > Rosendale, NY
> > >
> >
>
> We used to use Detto Pietro shoes in the sixties in New York. We had to
nail
> the aluminum cleats in place. Anyone remember them as well??
>
> Bruce
>
>
I could never find Dettos wide enough to fit my feet.
I have a pair of Adidas Eddy Merckx shoes that I bought about 1974. They
have a leather sole about 1/4" and a 1/4" thick insole made of some kind
of composite material. There was not enough material to nail cleats on so
I tried short wood screws which pulled out. I switched to aluminum pop
rivets which also broke then I found some steel aircraft pop rivets that
worked great except when it came time to replace cleats.
I still ride with the Adidas shoes on occasional retro rides. I had to
have them re-glued several times but I guess that they were worth the
$75-$100 I paid for them.
I also have an almost new pair of Ditta Pinto shoes that were knockoff
Detto Pietros sold by Mel Pinto in the 1970s. They came in extra wide
widths. They have Cinelli plastic track cleats that I need to take off so
that I can start wearing them again.
Chas.
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Date: 17 Oct 2007 22:12:55
From: M-gineering
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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* * Chas wrote:
> I have a pair of Adidas Eddy Merckx shoes that I bought about 1974. They
> have a leather sole about 1/4" and a 1/4" thick insole made of some kind
> of composite material.
ordinary nylon istr. It didn't go soft in the rain.
There was not enough material to nail cleats on so
> I tried short wood screws which pulled out. I switched to aluminum pop
> rivets
same here ;)
--
/Marten
info(apestaartje)m-gineering(punt)nl
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 20:59:58
From: David L. Johnson
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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Bruce Gilbert wrote:
> We used to use Detto Pietro shoes in the sixties in New York. We had to nail
> the aluminum cleats in place. Anyone remember them as well??
Absolutely.
--
David L. Johnson
Arguing with an engineer is like mud wrestling with a pig...
You soon find out the pig likes it!
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 18:25:18
From: John Thompson
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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On 2007-10-08, Bruce Gilbert <bgilbertREMOVE@hal-pc.org > wrote:
> We used to use Detto Pietro shoes in the sixties in New York. We had to nail
> the aluminum cleats in place. Anyone remember them as well??
The Dettos or the cleats? I still have a set of nail-on TA cleats and a
couple sets of Paravin plastic cleats. When my old Rivats die, I have a
set of Zeus shoes ready to replace them. :-)
--
John (john@os2.dhs.org)
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 07:16:52
From: Mark
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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Gary Jacobson wrote:
> "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <peter@vecchios.com> wrote in
> message news:1191847350.508411.48460@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>> WOOD
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>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/interbike0710/Northwave_wood_midsole
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> Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
> wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
Yup, Duegi. They were very "in".
Mark J.
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 06:13:20
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Everybody uses carbon...let's use....
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On Oct 8, 7:42 am, "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com"
<pe...@vecchios.com > wrote:
> WOOD
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> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/index.p...
better heat dissipation, more comfort, and improved power
transmission.
It's a no-brainer!
Next up--cleat hammers!
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