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Date: 23 Jun 2007 00:01:38
From: Troll Report
Subject: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem
I noticed a thread on 'good wheels' devolved into arguments about brooks
and other saddles *YAWN* ah excuse me, anyway, and no one mentioned ISM
Adamo's.

For those that just woke up, Adamo's are probably the greatest development
in saddles technology within past few decade. Yeah, they haven't been
spec'd as standard by any of the standard boogeymen (Rivendale,etc), but
for anyone interested in a truely good new saddle design, (or those of you
that are possibly bored of engagin in tired anti-rivendale ranting), be
sure to check these out

http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=18039




 
Date: 26 Jun 2007 07:14:52
From:
Subject: Re: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem
On Jun 23, 4:01 am, Troll Report <trollr...@rt.net > wrote:
> I noticed a thread on 'good wheels' devolved into arguments about brooks
> and other saddles *YAWN* ah excuse me, anyway, and no one mentioned ISM
> Adamo's.
>
> For those that just woke up, Adamo's are probably the greatest development
> in saddles technology within past few decade. Yeah, they haven't been
> spec'd as standard by any of the standard boogeymen (Rivendale,etc), but
> for anyone interested in a truely good new saddle design, (or those of you
> that are possibly bored of engagin in tired anti-rivendale ranting), be
> sure to check these out
>
> http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=18039

"Integrated tri-hook under the rear of the saddle allows for quick
placement and removal of bike in transition area"

Something tells me they're going to sell a lot of these...



 
Date: 26 Jun 2007 12:40:02
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem
On Jun 24, 11:05 pm, "* * Chas" <verktygj...@aol.spamski.com > wrote:
> "still me" <wheeled...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:q7kr73pvj9e5usl2c1t78n3hsg3g42itkv@4ax.com...
>
> > On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 11:57:16 -0700, "* * Chas"
> > <verktygj...@aol.spamski.com> wrote:
>
> > >Could be a real problem for those with droopy male equipment.
>
> > >Chas.
>
> > Hmm... on second thought... I usually have to tie it to the seatpost.
> > With this seat I _could_ wrap it under the seat and fold it up like
> > tubular in the back.
>
> Two Texans relieving themselves off a bridge.
>
> First one sez "Water sure is cold".
>
> Second one sez "Deep too".
>
> First liar don't stand a chance....
>
> Chas.

normal texan behavior-pissing in drinking water



 
Date: 25 Jun 2007 01:20:25
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem
On Jun 24, 9:10 pm, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Jun 24, 7:47 am, Qui si parla Campagnolo <p...@vecchios.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 23, 2:01 am, Troll Report <trollr...@rt.net> wrote:
>
> > > I noticed a thread on 'good wheels' devolved into arguments about brooks
> > > and other saddles *YAWN* ah excuse me, anyway, and no one mentioned ISM
> > > Adamo's.
>
> > > For those that just woke up, Adamo's are probably the greatest development
> > > in saddles technology within past few decade. Yeah, they haven't been
> > > spec'd as standard by any of the standard boogeymen (Rivendale,etc), but
> > > for anyone interested in a truely good new saddle design, (or those of you
> > > that are possibly bored of engagin in tired anti-rivendale ranting), be
> > > sure to check these out
>
> > >http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=18039
>
> >http://www.albabici.com/selle/07-pro/07-pro.htm
>
> > Not saying either is a 'good saddle design'..but split fronts are not
> > new.
>
> nice saddle! great design ... ahhh ssss its covered with leather.
> did the chinese swallow all the synth leather whazzit - nubuck?
> isn't leather kinda 20th century not up to the job of absorbing sweat
> and rain then drying out in 125 degree blazing sunlight?
> i mean like for shoes leather is really zero null DOA- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

gee i bought last years for $25 7 years ago then did the Goop covering
6 times. Maybe its getting a bit hard or I'm softer. the new one's
have that odd patch of gel sewn in. kinda bumpy. but the lines work
well, no pudendum contact for normal people, limited contact/limited
opportunity for skin abrasion and tears. really doesn't get hard here
and I am thin until I exceed my 50 miles into 7-80 miles. got a good
rail length or did. firm but not hard. rah rah rah!

http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCEqSection.jsp?sid=EquipSaddlesRoad

the troll reports a fat man's saddle, is it not? a fat man's pudendum
saddle. next GP bikes for coach potatos...last discussed last year!



 
Date: 25 Jun 2007 01:10:52
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem
On Jun 24, 7:47 am, Qui si parla Campagnolo <p...@vecchios.com > wrote:
> On Jun 23, 2:01 am, Troll Report <trollr...@rt.net> wrote:
>
> > I noticed a thread on 'good wheels' devolved into arguments about brooks
> > and other saddles *YAWN* ah excuse me, anyway, and no one mentioned ISM
> > Adamo's.
>
> > For those that just woke up, Adamo's are probably the greatest development
> > in saddles technology within past few decade. Yeah, they haven't been
> > spec'd as standard by any of the standard boogeymen (Rivendale,etc), but
> > for anyone interested in a truely good new saddle design, (or those of you
> > that are possibly bored of engagin in tired anti-rivendale ranting), be
> > sure to check these out
>
> >http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=18039
>
> http://www.albabici.com/selle/07-pro/07-pro.htm
>
> Not saying either is a 'good saddle design'..but split fronts are not
> new.

nice saddle! great design ... ahhh ssss its covered with leather.
did the chinese swallow all the synth leather whazzit - nubuck?
isn't leather kinda 20th century not up to the job of absorbing sweat
and rain then drying out in 125 degree blazing sunlight?
i mean like for shoes leather is really zero null DOA



 
Date: 24 Jun 2007 04:47:23
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem
On Jun 23, 2:01 am, Troll Report <trollr...@rt.net > wrote:
> I noticed a thread on 'good wheels' devolved into arguments about brooks
> and other saddles *YAWN* ah excuse me, anyway, and no one mentioned ISM
> Adamo's.
>
> For those that just woke up, Adamo's are probably the greatest development
> in saddles technology within past few decade. Yeah, they haven't been
> spec'd as standard by any of the standard boogeymen (Rivendale,etc), but
> for anyone interested in a truely good new saddle design, (or those of you
> that are possibly bored of engagin in tired anti-rivendale ranting), be
> sure to check these out
>
> http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=18039

http://www.albabici.com/selle/07-pro/07-pro.htm

Not saying either is a 'good saddle design'..but split fronts are not
new.



 
Date: 23 Jun 2007 20:28:30
From: Callistus Valerius
Subject: Re: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem
> For those that just woke up, Adamo's are probably the greatest development
---------
The two most important pieces of equipement involved in a bike ride, your
shoes, and the saddle, the rest you can skimp on. That's why I wear sidi's
and sit on a brooks.




  
Date: 24 Jun 2007 21:57:11
From: Morten Reippuert Knudsen
Subject: Re: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem
Callistus Valerius <jazzyboss@hotmail.com > wrote:
> > For those that just woke up, Adamo's are probably the greatest development
> ---------
> The two most important pieces of equipement involved in a bike ride, your
> shoes, and the saddle, the rest you can skimp on. That's why I wear sidi's
> and sit on a brooks.

I Agree on Sidi, the only shoes witch won't change shape. My 93
Technos has exactly the same fit as when they where new, unfortunatly
its imposible to get new hardware for them in 07.
I had to get a new pair of shoes this year. After trying Shimano,
Nothwave, Diadora, Adidas, Nike and Spezialied i had to aknkolagde
that the only option where a pair of Sidi Energy 2 (+ carbon somthing i
don't really need). Unfortunatly they cost a fortune and never go
on sale. However if they will last almost 15 years as my previous
shoes its a bargain. This time i'll remember to get a cupple of spare
buckels in time.

Regarding the saddle i prefer Fizik's Aliante... as the Sidi's its
redicuasly expensive but the fit is second to none.

--
Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk >

Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.


   
Date: 24 Jun 2007 20:12:06
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:57:11 +0200, Morten Reippuert
Knudsen<spam@reippuert.dk > wrote:

>I Agree on Sidi, the only shoes witch won't change shape. My 93
>Technos has exactly the same fit as when they where new, unfortunatly
>its imposible to get new hardware for them in 07.
>I had to get a new pair of shoes this year. After trying Shimano,
>Nothwave, Diadora, Adidas, Nike and Spezialied i had to aknkolagde
>that the only option where a pair of Sidi Energy 2 (+ carbon somthing i
>don't really need). Unfortunatly they cost a fortune and never go
>on sale. However if they will last almost 15 years as my previous
>shoes its a bargain. This time i'll remember to get a cupple of spare
>buckels in time.

I'm amazed you can use the same shoes for cycling for 15 years
(assuming you're riding a few hours a week at least on average).

In any case, if the price of those new Sidis concern you, you should
consider a lower end model.

In my country (USA) there are often slightly older versions of Sidi
Geniuses on sale. Also in the UK. I think all or almost all Sidi
shoes fit the same (with special width Sidis being similarly
consistent across models).


--
JT
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Date: 26 Jun 2007 05:03:50
From: Morten Reippuert Knudsen
Subject: Re: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem
John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetremove@jt10000.com > wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:57:11 +0200, Morten Reippuert
> Knudsen<spam@reippuert.dk> wrote:

> >I Agree on Sidi, the only shoes witch won't change shape. My 93
> >Technos has exactly the same fit as when they where new, unfortunatly
> >its imposible to get new hardware for them in 07.
> >I had to get a new pair of shoes this year. After trying Shimano,
> >Nothwave, Diadora, Adidas, Nike and Spezialied i had to aknkolagde
> >that the only option where a pair of Sidi Energy 2 (+ carbon somthing i
> >don't really need). Unfortunatly they cost a fortune and never go
> >on sale. However if they will last almost 15 years as my previous
> >shoes its a bargain. This time i'll remember to get a cupple of spare
> >buckels in time.

> I'm amazed you can use the same shoes for cycling for 15 years
> (assuming you're riding a few hours a week at least on average).

I do - there where a few years when i didn't ride that much, but my
shoes have been used at least 4 days a week for 10 years. The soles
are not nice anymre and iv've changed the buckles ones, the thecho
straps twice and the iner sole onece. However the shoes themselves are
still in perfect condition and has the same fit and shape as in 93.

> In any case, if the price of those new Sidis concern you, you should
> consider a lower end model.

It's difficult to settele with velcro straps once used to Sidi's
Techno system.

> In my country (USA) there are often slightly older versions of Sidi
> Geniuses on sale. Also in the UK. I think all or almost all Sidi
> shoes fit the same (with special width Sidis being similarly
> consistent across models).

true, however genius's on sale doesnt seem to be cheap either, however
cheaper than fullprice Techno/Ergo's.

--
Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk >

Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.


    
Date: 24 Jun 2007 22:04:05
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem
> Morten Reippuert Knudsen<spam@reippuert.dk> wrote:
>> I Agree on Sidi, the only shoes witch won't change shape. My 93
>> Technos has exactly the same fit as when they where new, unfortunatly
>> its imposible to get new hardware for them in 07.
>> I had to get a new pair of shoes this year. After trying Shimano,
>> Nothwave, Diadora, Adidas, Nike and Spezialied i had to aknkolagde
>> that the only option where a pair of Sidi Energy 2 (+ carbon somthing i
>> don't really need). Unfortunatly they cost a fortune and never go
>> on sale. However if they will last almost 15 years as my previous
>> shoes its a bargain. This time i'll remember to get a cupple of spare
>> buckels in time.

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> I'm amazed you can use the same shoes for cycling for 15 years
> (assuming you're riding a few hours a week at least on average).
> In any case, if the price of those new Sidis concern you, you should
> consider a lower end model.
>
> In my country (USA) there are often slightly older versions of Sidi
> Geniuses on sale. Also in the UK. I think all or almost all Sidi
> shoes fit the same (with special width Sidis being similarly
> consistent across models).

Generally yes for Genius and up but the bottom of the line SiDis are
Romanian (not Italian) made and do fit differently.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


   
Date: 24 Jun 2007 23:13:56
From: Callistus Valerius
Subject: Re: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem
> I Agree on Sidi, the only shoes witch won't change shape. My 93
> Technos has exactly the same fit as when they where new, unfortunatly
> its imposible to get new hardware for them in 07.
> I had to get a new pair of shoes this year. After trying Shimano,
> Nothwave, Diadora, Adidas, Nike and Spezialied i had to aknkolagde
> that the only option where a pair of Sidi Energy 2 (+ carbon somthing i
> don't really need). Unfortunatly they cost a fortune and never go
> on sale. However if they will last almost 15 years as my previous
> shoes its a bargain. This time i'll remember to get a cupple of spare
> buckels in time.
>
> Regarding the saddle i prefer Fizik's Aliante... as the Sidi's its
> redicuasly expensive but the fit is second to none.
----------
Don't be cheap with saddles and shoes, unfortunately a lot of newbies give
up on cycling, before they figure that out. I was joking about the Brooks,
I like mine, but I like my prolink saddles on my other bikes too. For
example, I have a Trek 1000, that I have toured with, and done commuting
with. When it was a commuter, I put a crappy saddle on it, and put some
tight fitting shoes (spd pedal), and after a while I started thinking this
bike isn't too good. Then one day, I put my prolink saddle on it, switched
to a look pedal, and wore my Sidi's, and it was like a whole new bike.
Fast, responsive, funny how changing those two things changed my whole
attitude about that bike.




 
Date: 23 Jun 2007 12:39:18
From: DougC
Subject: Excellent old bicycle design does away with sore ass problem
Troll Report wrote:
> I noticed a thread on 'good wheels' devolved into arguments about brooks
> and other saddles *YAWN* ah excuse me, anyway, and no one mentioned ISM
> Adamo's.
>
> For those that just woke up, Adamo's are probably the greatest development
> in saddles technology within past few decade. Yeah, they haven't been
> spec'd as standard by any of the standard boogeymen (Rivendale,etc), but
> for anyone interested in a truely good new saddle design, (or those of you
> that are possibly bored of engagin in tired anti-rivendale ranting), be
> sure to check these out
>
> http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=18039

To fix the upright bike's saddle problem, you really need to fix the
/bike/ ...by moving the pedals farther forward, so that the saddle
doesn't interfere with pedaling. Like with recumbents, or with the RANS
sport series bikes.

Not that any of these are UCI-legal, of course.
-But then, comfortable bikes would totally ruin pro racing. None of the
riders would have that gritty, intense look. They'd have goofy smiles as
if they were shooting a Mentos commercial or something. (in the defense
of idiocy, the French vow never to surrender)
~


 
Date: 23 Jun 2007 08:58:57
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem
Troll Report wrote:
> I noticed a thread on 'good wheels' devolved into arguments about
> brooks and other saddles *YAWN* ah excuse me, anyway, and no one
> mentioned ISM Adamo's.
>
> For those that just woke up, Adamo's are probably the greatest
> development in saddles technology within past few decade. Yeah, they
> haven't been spec'd as standard by any of the standard boogeymen
> (Rivendale,etc), but for anyone interested in a truely good new
> saddle design, (or those of you that are possibly bored of engagin in
> tired anti-rivendale ranting), be sure to check these out
>
> http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=18039

Penile tuning fork! LOL

Too wide in front; too expensive to boot.

Bill "pass" S.




 
Date: 23 Jun 2007 08:00:01
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem
On Jun 23, 3:01 am, Troll Report <trollr...@rt.net > wrote:
> I noticed a thread on 'good wheels' devolved into arguments about brooks
> and other saddles *YAWN* ah excuse me, anyway, and no one mentioned ISM
> Adamo's.
>
> For those that just woke up, Adamo's are probably the greatest development
> in saddles technology within past few decade. Yeah, they haven't been
> spec'd as standard by any of the standard boogeymen (Rivendale,etc), but
> for anyone interested in a truely good new saddle design, (or those of you
> that are possibly bored of engagin in tired anti-rivendale ranting), be
> sure to check these out
>
> http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=18039

"Ho-Hum, another breakthrough." - Paul W. Klipsch



 
Date: 23 Jun 2007 07:59:07
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem
a fat guy saddle?
your meat greets the seat?
orso?
sit on the nose?
wow! ow! prostatis
the groove or open area air conditions your crack
if your tuberosities are alllll the way back on the saddle's stern
then, the back groove as grooved from the stern not front
is under the pudendum
?????
the remmaining problem, having set up for the hairpin ahead, is the
saddle narrow at this juncture, narrow to clear the medial thigh?
I could go for a saddle with two tuberosity patchs linked by an
elastic mechanism moving with me not against me me me me


http://www.mtbr.com/reviews/Saddle/



  
Date: 23 Jun 2007 11:56:03
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem

"datakoll" <datakoll@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1182610747.403182.218360@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> a fat guy saddle?
> your meat greets the seat?
> orso?
> sit on the nose?
> wow! ow! prostatis
> the groove or open area air conditions your crack
> if your tuberosities are alllll the way back on the saddle's stern
> then, the back groove as grooved from the stern not front
> is under the pudendum
> ?????
> the remmaining problem, having set up for the hairpin ahead, is the
> saddle narrow at this juncture, narrow to clear the medial thigh?
> I could go for a saddle with two tuberosity patchs linked by an
> elastic mechanism moving with me not against me me me me
>
>
> http://www.mtbr.com/reviews/Saddle/
>

Hey, it makes it easy to "water your lizard" while riding... ;-)

Chas.




 
Date: 23 Jun 2007 14:53:20
From: still me
Subject: Re: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 00:01:38 -0800, Troll Report <trollrepo@rt.net >
wrote:

>
>http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=18039

Junior took one look at that seat and clearly said "keep that friggin
thing away, I ain't sittin anywhere near it! I'd rather be numb! "




  
Date: 23 Jun 2007 11:57:16
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem

"still me" <wheeledBob@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:vscq739l2lfcv1mcohagaod1ak00n37vpj@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 00:01:38 -0800, Troll Report <trollrepo@rt.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=18039
>
> Junior took one look at that seat and clearly said "keep that friggin
> thing away, I ain't sittin anywhere near it! I'd rather be numb! "
>
>

Could be a real problem for those with droopy male equipment.

Chas.




   
Date: 24 Jun 2007 02:05:02
From: still me
Subject: Re: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 11:57:16 -0700, "* * Chas"
<verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com > wrote:

>Could be a real problem for those with droopy male equipment.
>
>Chas.


Hmm... on second thought... I usually have to tie it to the seatpost.
With this seat I _could_ wrap it under the seat and fold it up like
tubular in the back.



    
Date: 24 Jun 2007 20:05:02
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem

"still me" <wheeledBob@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:q7kr73pvj9e5usl2c1t78n3hsg3g42itkv@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 11:57:16 -0700, "* * Chas"
> <verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com> wrote:
>
> >Could be a real problem for those with droopy male equipment.
> >
> >Chas.
>
>
> Hmm... on second thought... I usually have to tie it to the seatpost.
> With this seat I _could_ wrap it under the seat and fold it up like
> tubular in the back.
>

Two Texans relieving themselves off a bridge.

First one sez "Water sure is cold".

Second one sez "Deep too".

First liar don't stand a chance....

Chas.




 
Date: 23 Jun 2007 05:19:44
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Re: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem
On Jun 23, 3:01 am, Troll Report <trollr...@rt.net > wrote:
> I noticed a thread on 'good wheels' devolved into arguments about brooks
> and other saddles *YAWN* ah excuse me, anyway, and no one mentioned ISM
> Adamo's.
>
> For those that just woke up, Adamo's are probably the greatest development
> in saddles technology within past few decade. Yeah, they haven't been
> spec'd as standard by any of the standard boogeymen (Rivendale,etc), but
> for anyone interested in a truely good new saddle design, (or those of you
> that are possibly bored of engagin in tired anti-rivendale ranting), be
> sure to check these out
>
> http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=18039

Asshatchet > nutcracker.

I bought one of these hotties to try out:

http://www.fizik.it/catalog.aspx?subid=Arione_Wing_Flex_Black

Code name: Kingfisher. --D-y



 
Date: 23 Jun 2007 03:55:59
From: Chris Nelson
Subject: Re: Excellent new saddle design does away with nose problem
On Jun 23, 4:01 am, Troll Report <trollr...@rt.net > wrote:
> I noticed a thread on 'good wheels' devolved into arguments about brooks
> and other saddles *YAWN* ah excuse me, anyway, and no one mentioned ISM
> Adamo's.
>
> For those that just woke up, Adamo's are probably the greatest development
> in saddles technology within past few decade. Yeah, they haven't been
> spec'd as standard by any of the standard boogeymen (Rivendale,etc), but
> for anyone interested in a truely good new saddle design, (or those of you
> that are possibly bored of engagin in tired anti-rivendale ranting), be
> sure to check these out
>
> http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=18039

Lol, "eliminates the nose" by adding another nose.

Seriously though, it looks too wide in the front = chafing.

Chris