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Date: 11 Oct 2007 10:53:01
From: Jeff Potter (of OutYourBackdoor.com)
Subject: Generic jersey that's safe for heat-sublimation?
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I'm trying to find a partly-colored jersey with a white panel in front
(and back) on which I can have a nifty design dye-sublimated. This
process requires IRONING. So the jersey has to be polyester and ALSO
safe for ironing! I'm having a hard time finding such a jersey. I
gather that once a jersey is colored that you can't iron it again? So
far only http://Velowear.com has an item I can use: an all-white
jersey. But my local t-shirt shop can "only" transfer 11x17 of images.
I suppose we could piece together something that would use up more of
the jersey, but I'd rather not have all that white around my message/
design.
I really like the (blue) club jersey that Performance offers---but
it's not iron safe. Well, the fabric is but the pre-existing color is
not. Follow?
(The Perf jersey is only meant for silk-screening which applies a
rubberized image---sweaty and not "pro" it seems to me.)
Any ideas, leads, links or tips?
THANKS!
JP
outyourbackdoor.com
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Date: 16 Oct 2007 13:35:46
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Generic jersey that's safe for heat-sublimation?
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DO NOT SHOW TEXT
liquid polyester paint?
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1
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Date: 15 Oct 2007 03:49:28
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Generic jersey that's safe for heat-sublimation?
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ask about acrylics on poly at the local art store
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Date: 14 Oct 2007 23:33:18
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Generic jersey that's safe for heat-sublimation?
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Prices on dyed poly are rather steep not only from dyeing costs but
the manufacturer and retailer determined you the buyer are a moron
with too much money.
Campmor is out of white men's duofold long and short sleeved
performance crews but you might find a white T in cotton and poly for
$10. Taking a white poly into the chosen silk screener for a try out
with something simple like SUCK ME OFF in black block letters could be
the cheapest way togo. You could stencil and paint your message not
dye or laundry marker. Paint's cheaper. Try the art house for
acrylics.
There's a bargain in here
http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=&subcategory=&brand=&sku=20023&storetype=estore&estoreid=1073&pagename=Estore%3A%20Autumn%20Apparel%20Sale
http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=&subcategory=&brand=&sku=19099&storetype=estore&estoreid=1073&pagename=Estore%3A%20Autumn%20Apparel%20Sale
http://www.coloradocyclist.com/product/item/DESXHTSB
http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=6000137&subcategory=60001207&brand=&sku=17582&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=Shop%20by%20Subcat%3A%20Short%20Sleeve%20%2F%20Sleeveless%20Jerseys
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Date: 14 Oct 2007 04:50:30
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Generic jersey that's safe for heat-sublimation?
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ok. if you have a favorite fitting anything - bra panties cane with
dog whatever
the local sewing shop has "pattern fabric" used to make patterns with.
take the favorite top. see where the parts are sewn together and lay
the "pattern fabric" on the parts
mark and cut.
now you have the pieces of your favorite top
you buy "coolmax" or better if its hot hot a mesh coolmax. Seattle
Fabrics has patterns that give yardage needed but I guess its 1.5
yards per top.
"coolmax" comes in white or whatever from Seattle Fabrics or Rose City
Textiles.
Sew the top(s) together with your mother's machine or by hand. snot a
big deal.
i don't know anything about the silk screen biz but poly is a tough
dye. Of the top of my head I guess the jerseys you see with Grateful
images or a dragon with IMA GOONA STICK IT IN YOUR
on the back are processed to take dye. fabrics without the IMA GOONA
on them may not be so processed.
Campmor's dayglo T's are 85% poly and 15% cotten (?) The cotten takes
the dye. Wal sold bright colors in poly witha bit of spandex or
something to take dye - that feels rubbery and is a less than hot
climate T fabric. That run was dyed in Lesotho where labor is cheap
and the EPA somewhat lax about pouring several extra thousand gallons
of used chemicals back into the ocean, chemicals necessary to get the
poly to "take" orange or yellow dye and come out bright.
Like the shop may take poly and say yeah yeah yeah we can do this and
yeah that and sure they will but the finished product may not be what
you had in mind when you wandered over there.
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Date: 13 Oct 2007 20:38:37
From: Colin Campbell
Subject: Re: Generic jersey that's safe for heat-sublimation?
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You might try looking at Velowear.com. Click on "Tops", then go to the
second page. There are several jerseys that have a white center area.
Voler will actually apply your picture, pattern, or message there for
you, for a modest price (I think). To learn about that program, click
on "Custom Apparel".
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Date: 13 Oct 2007 14:10:44
From: Jeff Potter (of OutYourBackdoor.com)
Subject: Re: Generic jersey that's safe for heat-sublimation?
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On Oct 13, 2:43 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca > wrote:
> In article <1192294266.493805.158...@e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
> "Jeff Potter (of OutYourBackdoor.com)" <Jeff...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 13, 10:13 am, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > beat me to it. I'm planning into sewing tank tops from dayglo
> > > 'coolmax' cost is minimal.
> > > the sewing store has pattern material you lay, tape, mark over the T,
> > > tank, jersey that's your best fit.
> > > cutit, transfer to the 'coolmax' bought online MO and sew.
> > > get Singer's sewing manual and read Rochelle Harper.
> > > snobigdeal DIY but the savings on a tailored DIY tank from even MO
> > > tanks is uh... and 5! holy piggy
>
> > Let's see if I can understand the above... (it seems to be in a kind
> > of code)
>
> > In this age of high tech versatility and options, what you want to do
> > is buy a jersey, cut it apart and sew in the fabric that has the image
> > you desire on it?
>
> > That seems like a fine idea if there wasn't any high tech around.
>
> > I still want to look to see if there's a pre-printed jersey out there
> > that one can buy one of and do your own heated dye-sub on on white
> > spaces front and back. --A jersey that's not all-white, that is.
> > That's all I need. There are t-shirt people in my town who have a
> > handy device that will dye-sub 11x17 images for $10. This seems like a
> > far better method for bike jersies than a screen-printer---which
> > applies a sweaty rubberized "non pro" paint-type coating. --If it only
> > existed in a handy way to utilize.
>
> > --JP
>
> Dye-sub is the default method for putting graphics on bicycle jerseys.
And?
Right. And you typically can't take a pre-printed jersey and heat it
to dye-sub it. It wrecks the pre-printing. I suppose it might be a
case of you can't dye-sub a jersey twice, if that's how they pre-print
them. But if one could find a pre-printed jersey that said "iron safe"
on its tag I think we'd be good.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dye-sublimation_printer
>
> But Gene is talking about turning Coolmax T-shirts into Coolmax tank
> tops. For whatever reason, he seems to be able to find t-shirts way more
> cheaply than any tank top.
I tried to glean a useful aspect from what he posted.
> --
> Ryan Cousineau rcous...@sfu.cahttp://www.wiredcola.com/
> "My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
> Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing
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Date: 13 Oct 2007 09:51:06
From: Jeff Potter (of OutYourBackdoor.com)
Subject: Re: Generic jersey that's safe for heat-sublimation?
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On Oct 13, 10:13 am, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> beat me to it. I'm planning into sewing tank tops from dayglo
> 'coolmax' cost is minimal.
> the sewing store has pattern material you lay, tape, mark over the T,
> tank, jersey that's your best fit.
> cutit, transfer to the 'coolmax' bought online MO and sew.
> get Singer's sewing manual and read Rochelle Harper.
> snobigdeal DIY but the savings on a tailored DIY tank from even MO
> tanks is uh... and 5! holy piggy
Let's see if I can understand the above... (it seems to be in a kind
of code)
In this age of high tech versatility and options, what you want to do
is buy a jersey, cut it apart and sew in the fabric that has the image
you desire on it?
That seems like a fine idea if there wasn't any high tech around.
I still want to look to see if there's a pre-printed jersey out there
that one can buy one of and do your own heated dye-sub on on white
spaces front and back. --A jersey that's not all-white, that is.
That's all I need. There are t-shirt people in my town who have a
handy device that will dye-sub 11x17 images for $10. This seems like a
far better method for bike jersies than a screen-printer---which
applies a sweaty rubberized "non pro" paint-type coating. --If it only
existed in a handy way to utilize.
--JP
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Date: 13 Oct 2007 18:43:48
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Generic jersey that's safe for heat-sublimation?
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In article <1192294266.493805.158220@e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com >,
"Jeff Potter (of OutYourBackdoor.com)" <JeffOYB@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Oct 13, 10:13 am, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > beat me to it. I'm planning into sewing tank tops from dayglo
> > 'coolmax' cost is minimal.
> > the sewing store has pattern material you lay, tape, mark over the T,
> > tank, jersey that's your best fit.
> > cutit, transfer to the 'coolmax' bought online MO and sew.
> > get Singer's sewing manual and read Rochelle Harper.
> > snobigdeal DIY but the savings on a tailored DIY tank from even MO
> > tanks is uh... and 5! holy piggy
>
> Let's see if I can understand the above... (it seems to be in a kind
> of code)
>
> In this age of high tech versatility and options, what you want to do
> is buy a jersey, cut it apart and sew in the fabric that has the image
> you desire on it?
>
> That seems like a fine idea if there wasn't any high tech around.
>
> I still want to look to see if there's a pre-printed jersey out there
> that one can buy one of and do your own heated dye-sub on on white
> spaces front and back. --A jersey that's not all-white, that is.
> That's all I need. There are t-shirt people in my town who have a
> handy device that will dye-sub 11x17 images for $10. This seems like a
> far better method for bike jersies than a screen-printer---which
> applies a sweaty rubberized "non pro" paint-type coating. --If it only
> existed in a handy way to utilize.
>
> --JP
Dye-sub is the default method for putting graphics on bicycle jerseys.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dye-sublimation_printer
But Gene is talking about turning Coolmax T-shirts into Coolmax tank
tops. For whatever reason, he seems to be able to find t-shirts way more
cheaply than any tank top.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing
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Date: 13 Oct 2007 14:13:17
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Generic jersey that's safe for heat-sublimation?
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beat me to it. I'm planning into sewing tank tops from dayglo
'coolmax' cost is minimal.
the sewing store has pattern material you lay, tape, mark over the T,
tank, jersey that's your best fit.
cutit, transfer to the 'coolmax' bought online MO and sew.
get Singer's sewing manual and read Rochelle Harper.
snobigdeal DIY but the savings on a tailored DIY tank from even MO
tanks is uh... and 5! holy piggy
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