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Date: 13 Jun 2007 00:42:38
From: Bugbear
Subject: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19268.html
Or is this phenomenon isolated to F1?
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Date: 15 Jun 2007 23:35:44
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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In article
<1181720558.538935.220700@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com >
,
Bugbear <bugbear.1973@gmail.com > wrote:
> http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19268.html
>
> Or is this phenomenon isolated to F1?
Simply collect all that excess CO2 and turn it into
carbon fibre. It's a win-win situation.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 14 Jun 2007 00:59:28
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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On Jun 13, 7:36 pm, Johnny Sunset <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Jun 13, 7:12 pm, Bleve wrote:
>
> > On Jun 13, 5:42 pm, Bugbear wrote:
>
> > >http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19268.html
>
> > > Or is this phenomenon isolated to F1?
>
> > This seems to crop up every 6 months or so, and it's bullshit.
>
> Bulls excrete carbon fiber?
>
>
In fully formed, bicycle shaped objects.
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 17:36:14
From: Johnny Sunset
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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On Jun 13, 7:12 pm, Bleve wrote:
> On Jun 13, 5:42 pm, Bugbear wrote:
>
> >http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19268.html
>
> > Or is this phenomenon isolated to F1?
>
> This seems to crop up every 6 months or so, and it's bullshit.
Bulls excrete carbon fiber?
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
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Date: 16 Jun 2007 12:24:37
From: Resound
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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"Johnny Sunset" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1181781374.169329.6130@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 13, 7:12 pm, Bleve wrote:
>> On Jun 13, 5:42 pm, Bugbear wrote:
>>
>> >http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19268.html
>>
>> > Or is this phenomenon isolated to F1?
>>
>> This seems to crop up every 6 months or so, and it's bullshit.
>
> Bulls excrete carbon fiber?
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
>
They will if you feed them carbon fibre.
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 17:12:13
From: Bleve
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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On Jun 13, 5:42 pm, Bugbear <bugbear.1...@gmail.com > wrote:
> http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19268.html
>
> Or is this phenomenon isolated to F1?
This seems to crop up every 6 months or so, and it's bullshit.
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 20:16:16
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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Bleve wrote:
> On Jun 13, 5:42 pm, Bugbear <bugbear.1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19268.html
>>
>> Or is this phenomenon isolated to F1?
>
> This seems to crop up every 6 months or so, and it's bullshit.
>
>
>
>
it is indeed. for instance, airbus use composites, but a lot of it is
"glare", not carbon. it's therefore misleading b.s.
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 16:29:16
From:
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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On Jun 14, 8:49 am, BT Humble <bt_hum...@bigpond.com > wrote:
> Friday wrote:
> > Greater demand will lead to cheaper carbon fiber as scales of production
> > increase. Don't forget steel was expensive once, as was aluminum. I
> > predict that in 30 years carbon fiber will be as cheap as plastic is
> > today, and there will be a newer, better and more expensive material
> > that will take over as the "new" carbon.
>
> I predict that in 30 years global warming will have forced us all to
> live in cities under the sea!
>
> BTH
Under the sea,
Under the sea.
There'll be no accusations,
Just friendly crustaceans,
under the sea...
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 15:49:38
From: BT Humble
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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Friday wrote:
> Greater demand will lead to cheaper carbon fiber as scales of production
> increase. Don't forget steel was expensive once, as was aluminum. I
> predict that in 30 years carbon fiber will be as cheap as plastic is
> today, and there will be a newer, better and more expensive material
> that will take over as the "new" carbon.
I predict that in 30 years global warming will have forced us all to
live in cities under the sea!
BTH
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 17:09:11
From: Kinky Cowboy
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 00:42:38 -0700, Bugbear <bugbear.1973@gmail.com >
wrote:
>http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19268.html
>
>Or is this phenomenon isolated to F1?
I thought this was quite an old story - it's been doing the rounds for
a couple of years and the price point for carbon bike parts keeps
coming down because there's not much material and a lot of
manufacturing cost, so economies of scale on the latter easily
outweigh rising costs of the former.
Aluminium is also getting expensive, alongside all other industrial
metals, as demand rises from fast growing economies. As far as bikes
go, I'd be more worried about criminal gangs stealing drain covers
because the iron is now so costly that it's a worthwhile crime. That
will snap your frame whether it's carbon, aluminium or steel when you
drop the front wheel down an uncovered manhole in the dark.
Kinky Cowboy*
*Batteries not included
May contain traces of nuts
Your milage may vary
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 12:30:58
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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On Jun 13, 6:55 am, Travis <travismor...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Jun 13, 4:13 pm, Friday <nowh...@sometime.net.au> wrote:
>
> > Greater demand will lead to cheaper carbon fiber as scales of production
> > increase. Don't forget steel was expensive once, as was aluminum.
>
> Aluminium used to be so expensive back in the early days of electric
> power that there used to be an ingot of Aluminium among the UK's Crown
> Jewels, it was at that time far more precious than gold.
>
The 'cap" atop the Washington Monument is aluminum, for similar
reasons.
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 05:28:26
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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On Jun 13, 3:19 am, Friday <nowh...@sometime.net.au > wrote:
> Graeme Dods wrote:
> > On Jun 13, 4:13 pm, Friday <nowh...@sometime.net.au> wrote:
> >> Your carbon bling will be as
> >> unwanted as your old steel frame bike.
>
> > Unwanted steel frame? That's fighting talk round here I thought?
>
> > Graeme
>
> Well, I know you like it, but have you tried selling a steel frame lately?
>
> Friday
Nope, I just bought another steel Merckx..got any to sell??
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 04:55:20
From: Travis
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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On Jun 13, 4:13 pm, Friday <nowh...@sometime.net.au > wrote:
> Greater demand will lead to cheaper carbon fiber as scales of production
> increase. Don't forget steel was expensive once, as was aluminum.
Aluminium used to be so expensive back in the early days of electric
power that there used to be an ingot of Aluminium among the UK's Crown
Jewels, it was at that time far more precious than gold.
Travis
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 15:30:55
From: Mark
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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Travis wrote:
> On Jun 13, 4:13 pm, Friday <nowh...@sometime.net.au> wrote:
>
>> Greater demand will lead to cheaper carbon fiber as scales of production
>> increase. Don't forget steel was expensive once, as was aluminum.
>
> Aluminium used to be so expensive back in the early days of electric
> power that there used to be an ingot of Aluminium among the UK's Crown
> Jewels, it was at that time far more precious than gold.
Yes, the top of the Washington monument in Washington, DC is aluminum;
it was a precious metal at the time
From http://www.nps.gov/archive/wamo/history/chap5.htm :
"To complete the obelisk, the aluminum capstone weighing 100 ounces, the
largest single piece of aluminum cast to that time, was placed atop the
pyramidion on Saturday, December 6, 1884."
Mark J.
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Date: 14 Jun 2007 07:31:40
From: Resound
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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"Travis" <travismorien@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1181735720.750714.259440@n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 13, 4:13 pm, Friday <nowh...@sometime.net.au> wrote:
>
>> Greater demand will lead to cheaper carbon fiber as scales of production
>> increase. Don't forget steel was expensive once, as was aluminum.
>
> Aluminium used to be so expensive back in the early days of electric
> power that there used to be an ingot of Aluminium among the UK's Crown
> Jewels, it was at that time far more precious than gold.
>
> Travis
>
Apparently Napoleon used to have aluminium plates and cutlery for his most
favoured guests. The riff-raff had to make do with gold and silver.
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 23:13:57
From: TimC
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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On 2007-06-13, Travis (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> On Jun 13, 4:13 pm, Friday <nowh...@sometime.net.au> wrote:
>
>> Greater demand will lead to cheaper carbon fiber as scales of production
>> increase. Don't forget steel was expensive once, as was aluminum.
>
> Aluminium used to be so expensive back in the early days of electric
> power that there used to be an ingot of Aluminium among the UK's Crown
> Jewels, it was at that time far more precious than gold.
It's very impolite to look at the Queen's crown jewels.
PS. Solidified electricity.
--
TimC
> As you know, Linus took the word the penguins kept saying over and
> over again, rot13'ed it, and used that as the name of his OS.
So, who's going to record this .au file:
"Hello, my name is Yvahf Gbeinyqf, and I pronounce yvahk, yvahk."
-- Anthony de Boer && Michel Buijsman in ASR
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Date: 14 Jun 2007 11:53:26
From: Terryc
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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TimC wrote:
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> It's very impolite to look at the Queen's crown jewels.
Old B&S ball stickers?
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 01:56:46
From: Graeme Dods
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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On Jun 13, 4:13 pm, Friday <nowh...@sometime.net.au > wrote:
> Your carbon bling will be as
> unwanted as your old steel frame bike.
Unwanted steel frame? That's fighting talk round here I thought?
Graeme
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 17:19:26
From: Friday
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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Graeme Dods wrote:
> On Jun 13, 4:13 pm, Friday <nowh...@sometime.net.au> wrote:
>> Your carbon bling will be as
>> unwanted as your old steel frame bike.
>
> Unwanted steel frame? That's fighting talk round here I thought?
>
> Graeme
>
Well, I know you like it, but have you tried selling a steel frame lately?
Friday
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 21:07:24
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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"Friday" <nowhere@sometime.net.au > wrote in message
news:466fb77c_9@news.peopletelecom.com.au...
> Graeme Dods wrote:
> > On Jun 13, 4:13 pm, Friday <nowh...@sometime.net.au> wrote:
> >> Your carbon bling will be as
> >> unwanted as your old steel frame bike.
> >
> > Unwanted steel frame? That's fighting talk round here I thought?
> >
> > Graeme
> >
>
> Well, I know you like it, but have you tried selling a steel frame
lately?
>
> Friday
No, but I bought 3 of them in the past 2 weeks.
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Date: 14 Jun 2007 11:52:27
From: Terryc
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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Friday wrote:
> Well, I know you like it, but have you tried selling a steel frame lately?
That doesn't mean that it is unwanted.
Merely that we are not prepared to pay the asking price {:-).
Lets face it, if you no longer consider it good enough, why should we
pay a good price for it?
<dang, don't people realise you don't pay top dollar for second hand
steel for bicycle projects >
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Date: 14 Jun 2007 07:50:39
From: Theo Bekkers
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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Friday wrote:
> Graeme Dods wrote:
>> Unwanted steel frame? That's fighting talk round here I thought?
> Well, I know you like it, but have you tried selling a steel frame
> lately?
Why would you want to sell a good steel frame? :-)
Theo
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 16:13:04
From: Friday
Subject: Re: Get your carbon bling while you can!!!
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Bugbear wrote:
> http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19268.html
>
> Or is this phenomenon isolated to F1?
>
Greater demand will lead to cheaper carbon fiber as scales of production
increase. Don't forget steel was expensive once, as was aluminum. I
predict that in 30 years carbon fiber will be as cheap as plastic is
today, and there will be a newer, better and more expensive material
that will take over as the "new" carbon. Your carbon bling will be as
unwanted as your old steel frame bike.
Suppliers of bling are just scaremongering to push up the price.
We cyclists can create a new "carbon credits" industry by using up
excess carbon in bike frames!
Friday
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