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Date: 21 Aug 2007 22:25:38
From: KM
Subject: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage
Good evening,

Just looking for your opinions on whether it is harmful to the rim of a
road bike when the bike is hanging from a hook for storage?

I somehow have it in my head that it will cause the rim to become oval...

Hmmm.....

Kyle





 
Date: 24 Aug 2007 04:50:32
From: sergio
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage
On 23 Ago, 16:42, Mark

Also
watch out for
> ozone from the deep freeze compressor or other electric motors (some
> people have 'em in their garage). Ozone eats rubber.

Hang it inside the black ozone hole, if you really care.

Sergio
Pisa




 
Date: 22 Aug 2007 22:08:30
From: Tom \Johnny Sunset\ Sherman
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage
KM aka Kyle Who? wrote:
> Good evening,
>
> Just looking for your opinions on whether it is harmful to the rim of a
> road bike when the bike is hanging from a hook for storage?
>
> I somehow have it in my head that it will cause the rim to become oval...
>
> Hmmm.....

YOUR BICYCLE WILL EXPLODE IF YOU DO THIS!

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia

--
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Date: 23 Aug 2007 21:52:43
From: KM
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage
Just an FYI,

I drove lag screws through the rims on my bike. It will now be mounted on
my garage wall forever....

Case solved!

Ha ha ha

Thanks for the humor..ride well...

Kyle



"Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman" <sunsetss0003@iinvalid.com > wrote in message
news:46ccee1f$0$16400$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
> KM aka Kyle Who? wrote:
>> Good evening,
>>
>> Just looking for your opinions on whether it is harmful to the rim of a
>> road bike when the bike is hanging from a hook for storage?
>>
>> I somehow have it in my head that it will cause the rim to become oval...
>>
>> Hmmm.....
>
> YOUR BICYCLE WILL EXPLODE IF YOU DO THIS!
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>



   
Date: 24 Aug 2007 03:15:57
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage

"KM" <ohiohiker@woh.rr.com > wrote in message
news:46ce39e6$0$11073$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Just an FYI,
>
> I drove lag screws through the rims on my bike. It will now be mounted
on
> my garage wall forever....
>
> Case solved!
>
> Ha ha ha
>
> Thanks for the humor..ride well...
>
> Kyle
>
Doesn't it make it hard to go out for a quick spin?

Chas.




 
Date: 22 Aug 2007 14:25:19
From: Donga
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage
On Aug 23, 6:25 am, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org > wrote:

> Then reports of an enhanced gravity wave effect when you buy a Russian
> Girl to spin the wheels in opposite directions. All night long. The ad
> is in your inbox now as a matter of fact.

I tried this, and on arrival she was not nearly as pretty as the
picture in her sales brochure. In fact, I suspect she is the model's
grandmother. What was is not as what is. On the other hand, my wheels
remain round, I just paid too much.

Donga




 
Date: 22 Aug 2007 13:23:04
From: andresmuro@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage
On Aug 22, 1:13 pm, "KM" <ohiohi...@woh.rr.com > wrote:
> Great answers! I don't plan on putting my bike away for quite some time..and
> then I will resort to roller training for the winter. My oldest son left for
> Iraq last week and my youngest left for college. I need to store their bikes
> until they are needed again. Just wanted to make sure to do it right as I
> have not usually let a bike sit too long. My biggest problem is that I have
> lost my two riding partners.
>
> Be good..ride well
>
> Kyle<andresm...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1187751049.825728.224460@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Aug 21, 8:25 pm, "KM" <ohiohi...@woh.rr.com> wrote:
> >> Good evening,
>
> >> Just looking for your opinions on whether it is harmful to the rim of a
> >> road bike when the bike is hanging from a hook for storage?
>
> >> I somehow have it in my head that it will cause the rim to become oval...
>
> >> Hmmm.....
>
> >> Kyle
>
> > You are right. However, after a few rides, the wheels will go back to
> > normal. On the other hand, if you keep riding your bike and you never
> > hang it upside down the wheels will also go oval. So, you need to
> > alternate to find the right balance.
>
> > I know that there is a formula for figuring out the right balance. I
> > don't remember it cause I am not an engineer or a physicist. I believe
> > that it is the time on bike x bicycle weight x rider weight should
> > equal time hanging from hooks x bicycle weight x gravity pool. Once
> > you have the components, you solve the equation for time hanging from
> > hooks and you'll know how long you should hang it. It is something
> > like that. I'm sure that the engineers will correct me if I am wrong.
>
> > Andres

This question, as Andrew mentioned above, comes out once a year or so.
Obnoxious posters in this group, including myself, jump at the
opportunity to get creative with responses. We are all secretly
competing to come up with the most absurd, craziest answer.

Andres



  
Date: 22 Aug 2007 22:11:32
From: Tom \Johnny Sunset\ Sherman
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage
andresmuro@aol.com aka Andres Muro wrote:
> ...
> Obnoxious posters in this group...

Hey, I resemble that remark!

[Insert smart ass Sorni and snarky Ozark Bicycle comments here]

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia

--
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Date: 22 Aug 2007 10:46:17
From: Hank Wirtz
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage
On Aug 22, 9:14 am, "* * Chas" <verktygj...@aol.spamski.com > wrote:
> "Garry Lee" <gol...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1187766236.708641.19610@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > This is nonsense.
>
> > How about the little-known phenomenon of reverse gravity fatigue?
>
> > If you reverse the gravity of a material designed to take weight, by
> > hanging it, you can get complex intermolecular interactions which
> > result in micro-crystallisation in a process which in German is known
> > as
> > Zupfleutzingenheit (don't know the English), and poof!!. First ride,
> > bike disintegrates.
>
> That phenomena only occurs in close proximity to gravimetric analomies.
>
> Herr Dr. Chas.

That's easy to work around. Just reverse the polarity of the neutron
flow on your gravitic anomalizer.



  
Date: 22 Aug 2007 12:24:59
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage

"Hank Wirtz" <hank@wirtznet.net > wrote in message
news:1187804777.597796.217290@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 22, 9:14 am, "* * Chas" <verktygj...@aol.spamski.com> wrote:
> > "Garry Lee" <gol...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:1187766236.708641.19610@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > > This is nonsense.
> >
> > > How about the little-known phenomenon of reverse gravity fatigue?
> >
> > > If you reverse the gravity of a material designed to take weight, by
> > > hanging it, you can get complex intermolecular interactions which
> > > result in micro-crystallisation in a process which in German is
known
> > > as
> > > Zupfleutzingenheit (don't know the English), and poof!!. First ride,
> > > bike disintegrates.
> >
> > That phenomena only occurs in close proximity to gravimetric
analomies.
> >
> > Herr Dr. Chas.
>
> That's easy to work around. Just reverse the polarity of the neutron
> flow on your gravitic anomalizer.
>

Easier said than done..... It's part of the Earth's magnetic field.

Chas.




   
Date: 23 Aug 2007 07:37:35
From: Tosspot
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage
* * Chas wrote:
> "Hank Wirtz" <hank@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
> news:1187804777.597796.217290@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
>
>>On Aug 22, 9:14 am, "* * Chas" <verktygj...@aol.spamski.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Garry Lee" <gol...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>news:1187766236.708641.19610@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>This is nonsense.
>>>
>>>>How about the little-known phenomenon of reverse gravity fatigue?
>>>
>>>>If you reverse the gravity of a material designed to take weight, by
>>>>hanging it, you can get complex intermolecular interactions which
>>>>result in micro-crystallisation in a process which in German is
>
> known
>
>>>>as
>>>>Zupfleutzingenheit (don't know the English), and poof!!. First ride,
>>>>bike disintegrates.
>>>
>>>That phenomena only occurs in close proximity to gravimetric analomies.
>
>>>Herr Dr. Chas.
>>
>>That's easy to work around. Just reverse the polarity of the neutron
>>flow on your gravitic anomalizer.
>
> Easier said than done..... It's part of the Earth's magnetic field.

Stand on your head when taking the measurements, it all works a treat then.



 
Date: 22 Aug 2007 17:19:27
From: joseph.santaniello@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage
On Aug 22, 6:14 pm, "* * Chas" <verktygj...@aol.spamski.com > wrote:
> "Garry Lee" <gol...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1187766236.708641.19610@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > This is nonsense.
>
> > How about the little-known phenomenon of reverse gravity fatigue?
>
> > If you reverse the gravity of a material designed to take weight, by
> > hanging it, you can get complex intermolecular interactions which
> > result in micro-crystallisation in a process which in German is known
> > as
> > Zupfleutzingenheit (don't know the English), and poof!!. First ride,
> > bike disintegrates.
>
> That phenomena only occurs in close proximity to gravimetric analomies.
>
> Herr Dr. Chas.

That's why I want a CF bike.

Joseph



 
Date: 22 Aug 2007 05:58:36
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage
On Aug 22, 3:03 am, Garry Lee <gol...@gmail.com > wrote:
> This is nonsense.
>
> How about the little-known phenomenon of reverse gravity fatigue?
>
> If you reverse the gravity of a material designed to take weight, by
> hanging it, you can get complex intermolecular interactions which
> result in micro-crystallisation in a process which in German is known
> as
> Zupfleutzingenheit (don't know the English), and poof!!. First ride,
> bike disintegrates.

Would rigging the hanging bike so the wheels were spinning counteract
the reverse gravity fatigue? Distribute it along an a-b-normal curve?

R



  
Date: 22 Aug 2007 15:25:21
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage
> On Aug 22, 3:03 am, Garry Lee <gol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This is nonsense.
>> How about the little-known phenomenon of reverse gravity fatigue?
>> If you reverse the gravity of a material designed to take weight, by
>> hanging it, you can get complex intermolecular interactions which
>> result in micro-crystallisation in a process which in German is known
>> as
>> Zupfleutzingenheit (don't know the English), and poof!!. First ride,
>> bike disintegrates.

RicodJour wrote:
> Would rigging the hanging bike so the wheels were spinning counteract
> the reverse gravity fatigue? Distribute it along an a-b-normal curve?

Then reports of an enhanced gravity wave effect when you buy a Russian
Girl to spin the wheels in opposite directions. All night long. The ad
is in your inbox now as a matter of fact.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


 
Date: 22 Aug 2007 00:03:56
From: Garry Lee
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage

This is nonsense.

How about the little-known phenomenon of reverse gravity fatigue?

If you reverse the gravity of a material designed to take weight, by
hanging it, you can get complex intermolecular interactions which
result in micro-crystallisation in a process which in German is known
as
Zupfleutzingenheit (don't know the English), and poof!!. First ride,
bike disintegrates.



  
Date: 22 Aug 2007 09:14:04
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage

"Garry Lee" <golaoi@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1187766236.708641.19610@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> This is nonsense.
>
> How about the little-known phenomenon of reverse gravity fatigue?
>
> If you reverse the gravity of a material designed to take weight, by
> hanging it, you can get complex intermolecular interactions which
> result in micro-crystallisation in a process which in German is known
> as
> Zupfleutzingenheit (don't know the English), and poof!!. First ride,
> bike disintegrates.
>

That phenomena only occurs in close proximity to gravimetric analomies.

Herr Dr. Chas.




 
Date: 21 Aug 2007 22:25:37
From: crb
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage
On Aug 22, 3:24 pm, crb <cbeis...@hotmail.com > wrote:
>
> Even the static load of an 80-100km rider

Oops!

80-100kg!!!!!



 
Date: 21 Aug 2007 22:24:36
From: crb
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage
On Aug 22, 12:42 pm, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org > wrote:
>
> The static load of your 20 pound bike on one wheel is nothing compared
> to the mass of bike-plus-pilot hitting all manner of road anomalies at
> speed on that same rim.

Even the static load of an 80-100km rider sitting on a 10kg bike at
the traffic lights places more weight on each wheel than hanging the
10kg bike by one wheel.



  
Date: 23 Aug 2007 00:12:19
From: Michael Warner
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:24:36 -0700, crb wrote:

> Even the static load of an 80-100km rider

Is that his diameter or radius?


 
Date: 21 Aug 2007 19:50:49
From: andresmuro@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage
On Aug 21, 8:25 pm, "KM" <ohiohi...@woh.rr.com > wrote:
> Good evening,
>
> Just looking for your opinions on whether it is harmful to the rim of a
> road bike when the bike is hanging from a hook for storage?
>
> I somehow have it in my head that it will cause the rim to become oval...
>
> Hmmm.....
>
> Kyle

You are right. However, after a few rides, the wheels will go back to
normal. On the other hand, if you keep riding your bike and you never
hang it upside down the wheels will also go oval. So, you need to
alternate to find the right balance.

I know that there is a formula for figuring out the right balance. I
don't remember it cause I am not an engineer or a physicist. I believe
that it is the time on bike x bicycle weight x rider weight should
equal time hanging from hooks x bicycle weight x gravity pool. Once
you have the components, you solve the equation for time hanging from
hooks and you'll know how long you should hang it. It is something
like that. I'm sure that the engineers will correct me if I am wrong.

Andres



  
Date: 22 Aug 2007 15:13:56
From: KM
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage
Great answers! I don't plan on putting my bike away for quite some time..and
then I will resort to roller training for the winter. My oldest son left for
Iraq last week and my youngest left for college. I need to store their bikes
until they are needed again. Just wanted to make sure to do it right as I
have not usually let a bike sit too long. My biggest problem is that I have
lost my two riding partners.

Be good..ride well

Kyle
<andresmuro@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1187751049.825728.224460@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 21, 8:25 pm, "KM" <ohiohi...@woh.rr.com> wrote:
>> Good evening,
>>
>> Just looking for your opinions on whether it is harmful to the rim of a
>> road bike when the bike is hanging from a hook for storage?
>>
>> I somehow have it in my head that it will cause the rim to become oval...
>>
>> Hmmm.....
>>
>> Kyle
>
> You are right. However, after a few rides, the wheels will go back to
> normal. On the other hand, if you keep riding your bike and you never
> hang it upside down the wheels will also go oval. So, you need to
> alternate to find the right balance.
>
> I know that there is a formula for figuring out the right balance. I
> don't remember it cause I am not an engineer or a physicist. I believe
> that it is the time on bike x bicycle weight x rider weight should
> equal time hanging from hooks x bicycle weight x gravity pool. Once
> you have the components, you solve the equation for time hanging from
> hooks and you'll know how long you should hang it. It is something
> like that. I'm sure that the engineers will correct me if I am wrong.
>
> Andres
>



   
Date: 23 Aug 2007 07:42:11
From: Mark
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage
KM wrote:
> Great answers! I don't plan on putting my bike away for quite some
> time..and then I will resort to roller training for the winter. My
> oldest son left for Iraq last week and my youngest left for college. I
> need to store their bikes until they are needed again. Just wanted to
> make sure to do it right as I have not usually let a bike sit too long.
> My biggest problem is that I have lost my two riding partners.
>
> Be good..ride well
>
> Kyle

Good luck to you and yours as your family disperses around the globe.

For long-term bike storage, the issue isn't the hooks, but the
proverbial "cool dry place". That's what you want. Also watch out for
ozone from the deep freeze compressor or other electric motors (some
people have 'em in their garage). Ozone eats rubber.

Mark J.


 
Date: 21 Aug 2007 21:42:00
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Hanging bikes by hooks for storage
KM wrote:
> Just looking for your opinions on whether it is harmful to the rim of a
> road bike when the bike is hanging from a hook for storage?
> I somehow have it in my head that it will cause the rim to become oval...

The standard unwritten protocol here at r.b.t. is to ask this in late
autumn as the snow begins to fly (sort of our 'secret handshake' as it
were). But we can get the jump on this winter 2007~2008 question early.

The static load of your 20 pound bike on one wheel is nothing compared
to the mass of bike-plus-pilot hitting all manner of road anomalies at
speed on that same rim. Hang with impunity! Keeps your bike off the
floor, where 'being underfoot' can be hard on the paint.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971