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Date: 19 Oct 2007 19:22:57
From: Duncan Smith
Subject: LED/HID lightsets
Anyone had trouble with their M-HID light-sets? My Edison-10's just
blown up (stopped working - fortunately at the start of a commute, so
I wasn't stranded in the dark)

The HIDs only have lifetime of c400-500 cycles, but mine was only a
year old (just under actualy, so hopeuflly will get replaced under
guarantee) wasn't used in the summer, so I reckon it's only been on
200 times tops, probably closer to half that.

The lesson seems to be: carry a spare. Checking out the Lupine
website, the Edison is no longer the King, LEDs rule the roost now
with the Lupine Betty 12. Burn times seem far greater, brightness is
almost doubled! and I'm assuming they're much more reliable without
the ballast/bulb issues the Edison encounters.

Any experience/comments good or bad with the Edison or Betty?

Regards,

Duncan





 
Date: 20 Oct 2007 22:55:31
From: tiborg
Subject: Re: LED/HID lightsets
On Oct 20, 10:35 pm, Dorfus Dippintush
<Dorfus.Dippint...@kippinbot.com > wrote:
> tiborg wrote:
> > On Oct 20, 4:22 am, Duncan Smith <DSmith1...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> Anyone had trouble with their M-HID light-sets? My Edison-10's just
> >> blown up (stopped working - fortunately at the start of a commute, so
> >> I wasn't stranded in the dark)
>
> >> The HIDs only have lifetime of c400-500 cycles, but mine was only a
> >> year old (just under actualy, so hopeuflly will get replaced under
> >> guarantee) wasn't used in the summer, so I reckon it's only been on
> >> 200 times tops, probably closer to half that.
>
> >> The lesson seems to be: carry a spare. Checking out the Lupine
> >> website, the Edison is no longer the King, LEDs rule the roost now
> >> with the Lupine Betty 12. Burn times seem far greater, brightness is
> >> almost doubled! and I'm assuming they're much more reliable without
> >> the ballast/bulb issues the Edison encounters.
>
> >> Any experience/comments good or bad with the Edison or Betty?
>
> >> Regards,
>
> >> Duncan
>
> > I haven't used your model, but I've yet to go a year without some
> > issue from an HID. First problem was the bulb blowing out after about
> > 2 months. Next was an issue with the battery pack. After that the
> > light would occasionally cut out after a certain period of time that
> > kept getting shorter until it was useless. I gave up on that model
> > (Topeak Moonshine HID) and got a Trailtech 30W HID. After a couple
> > months it stopped firing up the first time I pressed the switch and it
> > has been getting increasingly stubborn. It takes me about 5-10 minutes
> > of switching on and off to get it going now, but at least it stays on
> > for the full hour I need (knock on wood). I love the amount of light,
> > but I'll be going back to LED when the Trailtech finally refuses to
> > start at all.
>
> I've been using a 12 watt HID Trailtech light for about two years now.
> It stays on my bike all the time, even during daytime rides, it's still
> running reliably. I use LiPo batteries bought off eBay. I don't use a
> switch, I just connect two plugs together and generally leave the light
> on for the full duration of the ride, switches tend to be the cause of
> most problems and the less connections in a circuit the better. I get
> about 3 hours out of a 3.5 amp.hour 11.1 volt LiPo battery.
>
> Dorf

When I press the switch, I can hear the ballast doing it's rapid fire
clicking trying to spark the light, so the switch seems to be working.
I think the ballast is defective, but I don't have a spare to
experiment with.



 
Date: 20 Oct 2007 05:46:22
From: tiborg
Subject: Re: LED/HID lightsets
On Oct 20, 4:22 am, Duncan Smith <DSmith1...@googlemail.com > wrote:
> Anyone had trouble with their M-HID light-sets? My Edison-10's just
> blown up (stopped working - fortunately at the start of a commute, so
> I wasn't stranded in the dark)
>
> The HIDs only have lifetime of c400-500 cycles, but mine was only a
> year old (just under actualy, so hopeuflly will get replaced under
> guarantee) wasn't used in the summer, so I reckon it's only been on
> 200 times tops, probably closer to half that.
>
> The lesson seems to be: carry a spare. Checking out the Lupine
> website, the Edison is no longer the King, LEDs rule the roost now
> with the Lupine Betty 12. Burn times seem far greater, brightness is
> almost doubled! and I'm assuming they're much more reliable without
> the ballast/bulb issues the Edison encounters.
>
> Any experience/comments good or bad with the Edison or Betty?
>
> Regards,
>
> Duncan

I haven't used your model, but I've yet to go a year without some
issue from an HID. First problem was the bulb blowing out after about
2 months. Next was an issue with the battery pack. After that the
light would occasionally cut out after a certain period of time that
kept getting shorter until it was useless. I gave up on that model
(Topeak Moonshine HID) and got a Trailtech 30W HID. After a couple
months it stopped firing up the first time I pressed the switch and it
has been getting increasingly stubborn. It takes me about 5-10 minutes
of switching on and off to get it going now, but at least it stays on
for the full hour I need (knock on wood). I love the amount of light,
but I'll be going back to LED when the Trailtech finally refuses to
start at all.



  
Date: 20 Oct 2007 21:35:59
From: Dorfus Dippintush
Subject: Re: LED/HID lightsets
tiborg wrote:
> On Oct 20, 4:22 am, Duncan Smith <DSmith1...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Anyone had trouble with their M-HID light-sets? My Edison-10's just
>> blown up (stopped working - fortunately at the start of a commute, so
>> I wasn't stranded in the dark)
>>
>> The HIDs only have lifetime of c400-500 cycles, but mine was only a
>> year old (just under actualy, so hopeuflly will get replaced under
>> guarantee) wasn't used in the summer, so I reckon it's only been on
>> 200 times tops, probably closer to half that.
>>
>> The lesson seems to be: carry a spare. Checking out the Lupine
>> website, the Edison is no longer the King, LEDs rule the roost now
>> with the Lupine Betty 12. Burn times seem far greater, brightness is
>> almost doubled! and I'm assuming they're much more reliable without
>> the ballast/bulb issues the Edison encounters.
>>
>> Any experience/comments good or bad with the Edison or Betty?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Duncan
>
> I haven't used your model, but I've yet to go a year without some
> issue from an HID. First problem was the bulb blowing out after about
> 2 months. Next was an issue with the battery pack. After that the
> light would occasionally cut out after a certain period of time that
> kept getting shorter until it was useless. I gave up on that model
> (Topeak Moonshine HID) and got a Trailtech 30W HID. After a couple
> months it stopped firing up the first time I pressed the switch and it
> has been getting increasingly stubborn. It takes me about 5-10 minutes
> of switching on and off to get it going now, but at least it stays on
> for the full hour I need (knock on wood). I love the amount of light,
> but I'll be going back to LED when the Trailtech finally refuses to
> start at all.
>

I've been using a 12 watt HID Trailtech light for about two years now.
It stays on my bike all the time, even during daytime rides, it's still
running reliably. I use LiPo batteries bought off eBay. I don't use a
switch, I just connect two plugs together and generally leave the light
on for the full duration of the ride, switches tend to be the cause of
most problems and the less connections in a circuit the better. I get
about 3 hours out of a 3.5 amp.hour 11.1 volt LiPo battery.

Dorf