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Date: 16 Sep 2007 08:57:29
From: Jay Beattie
Subject: Now its Rats
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Ran over a giant rat yesterday -- actually I missed it, and the guy I
was riding with ran it over. A nice change from squirrels. They're
slower, but they don't change direction. This happened in a forested
area, so I don't think it was anyone's pet. -- Jay Beattie.
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 01:10:24
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Now its Rats
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"Jay Beattie" <jbeattie@lindsayhart.com > wrote in message
news:1189958249.267568.56640@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> Ran over a giant rat yesterday -- actually I missed it, and the guy I
> was riding with ran it over. A nice change from squirrels. They're
> slower, but they don't change direction. This happened in a forested
> area, so I don't think it was anyone's pet. -- Jay Beattie.
>
I almost hit one on my bike in Alameda several weeks ago and I had one in
my house last week. There seems to be a growing rat problem in NorCal.
Can an outbreak of Yersinia pestis be far off?
Plague is endemic to NorCal and Southern Oregon as well as Northern New
Mexico and Arizona. In NorCal it's carried by ground squirrel and other
rodent fleas.
Chas.
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 18:38:14
From: !Jones
Subject: Re: Now its Rats
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 08:57:29 -0700, in rec.bicycles.tech Jay Beattie
<jbeattie@lindsayhart.com > wrote:
>Ran over a giant rat yesterday
Two points!
I got a dog with my SUV the other day.
Jones
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 21:17:30
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Now its Rats
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On Sep 17, 12:25 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net > wrote:
> Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote
> > Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > > How can they get past their own stench?
> > > Stinkiest critter I ever came across;
> > > I mean outside of our high school locker room.
>
> > Never faced a skunk?
>
> > A few years ago, a pair of skunks got into some sort of domestic dispute
> > a block from my house. The smell lingered in the air for some hours...
>
> A skunk sprays occasionally--in defense.
> An opossum smells like the bottom of a rendering pot
> all the time.
I'll see your opossum and raise you a javelina
(a small, nasty, stinky peccary).
Ben
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Date: 16 Sep 2007 19:13:03
From: Tim McNamara
Subject: Re: Now its Rats
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In article <1189958249.267568.56640@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com >,
Jay Beattie <jbeattie@lindsayhart.com > wrote:
> Ran over a giant rat yesterday -- actually I missed it, and the guy I
> was riding with ran it over. A nice change from squirrels. They're
> slower, but they don't change direction. This happened in a forested
> area, so I don't think it was anyone's pet. -- Jay Beattie.
Look out for the rats and the squirrels teaming up. If that happens, no
cyclist will be safe!
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Date: 16 Sep 2007 13:02:36
From: Jay Beattie
Subject: Re: Now its Rats
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On Sep 16, 11:03 am, carlfo...@comcast.net wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 08:57:29 -0700, Jay Beattie
>
> <jbeat...@lindsayhart.com> wrote:
> >Ran over a giant rat yesterday -- actually I missed it, and the guy I
> >was riding with ran it over. A nice change from squirrels. They're
> >slower, but they don't change direction. This happened in a forested
> >area, so I don't think it was anyone's pet. -- Jay Beattie.
>
> Dear Jay,
>
> Judging by my memories of the Pacific Northwest, there's a good chance
> that your "giant rat" may have been an introduced oppossum.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Fogel
Nah, this was just an old rat -- possums don't move fast at all.
According to internet sources (always reliable), they only have a top
speed of 4mph. This accords with my personal experience -- although
every time I encounter a possum, it usually stops to snarl and hiss,
so its hard to judge top speed. This rat was much smaller than a
possum and really movin' -- although not fast enough.-- Jay Beattie..
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Date: 16 Sep 2007 14:15:54
From:
Subject: Re: Now its Rats
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 13:02:36 -0700, Jay Beattie
<jbeattie@lindsayhart.com > wrote:
>On Sep 16, 11:03 am, carlfo...@comcast.net wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 08:57:29 -0700, Jay Beattie
>>
>> <jbeat...@lindsayhart.com> wrote:
>> >Ran over a giant rat yesterday -- actually I missed it, and the guy I
>> >was riding with ran it over. A nice change from squirrels. They're
>> >slower, but they don't change direction. This happened in a forested
>> >area, so I don't think it was anyone's pet. -- Jay Beattie.
>>
>> Dear Jay,
>>
>> Judging by my memories of the Pacific Northwest, there's a good chance
>> that your "giant rat" may have been an introduced oppossum.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Carl Fogel
>
>Nah, this was just an old rat -- possums don't move fast at all.
>According to internet sources (always reliable), they only have a top
>speed of 4mph. This accords with my personal experience -- although
>every time I encounter a possum, it usually stops to snarl and hiss,
>so its hard to judge top speed. This rat was much smaller than a
>possum and really movin' -- although not fast enough.-- Jay Beattie..
Dear Jay,
Rats!
(Sorry, couldn't resist it.)
I thought that the world was not yet prepared for your story.
Cheers,
Matilda Briggs
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Date: 16 Sep 2007 13:24:48
From: android
Subject: Re: Now its Rats
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Rodents Of Unusual Size? I don't think they exist.
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 08:57:29 -0700, Jay Beattie
<jbeattie@lindsayhart.com > wrote:
>Ran over a giant rat yesterday -- actually I missed it, and the guy I
>was riding with ran it over. A nice change from squirrels. They're
>slower, but they don't change direction. This happened in a forested
>area, so I don't think it was anyone's pet. -- Jay Beattie.
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 01:19:33
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Now its Rats
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"android" <android@austin.rr._c_o_m_ > wrote in message
news:e7tqe3d8plk1r907l96nqnp1mft19o6ik0@4ax.com...
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> Rodents Of Unusual Size? I don't think they exist.
Capybaras can grow to 145 Lbs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capybara
Chas.
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Date: 16 Sep 2007 23:02:58
From:
Subject: Re: Now its Rats
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android wrote:
> Rodents Of Unusual Size? I don't think they exist.
>
>
Tell that to my buddy who wrote off his Raleigh road bike (frame, fork,
wheel) hitting a ground hog.
They get 25 to 30lbs when well fed, a sizeable rodent.
Marcus
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 01:20:36
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Now its Rats
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<marcus9000@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:46edeec2$0$7395$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> android wrote:
> > Rodents Of Unusual Size? I don't think they exist.
> >
> >
> Tell that to my buddy who wrote off his Raleigh road bike (frame, fork,
> wheel) hitting a ground hog.
> They get 25 to 30lbs when well fed, a sizeable rodent.
>
>
> Marcus
They taste good too!
Chas.
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Date: 16 Sep 2007 12:03:26
From:
Subject: Re: Now its Rats
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 08:57:29 -0700, Jay Beattie
<jbeattie@lindsayhart.com > wrote:
>Ran over a giant rat yesterday -- actually I missed it, and the guy I
>was riding with ran it over. A nice change from squirrels. They're
>slower, but they don't change direction. This happened in a forested
>area, so I don't think it was anyone's pet. -- Jay Beattie.
Dear Jay,
Judging by my memories of the Pacific Northwest, there's a good chance
that your "giant rat" may have been an introduced oppossum.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 16 Sep 2007 20:53:15
From: (PeteCresswell)
Subject: Re: Now its Rats
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Per carlfogel@comcast.net:
>Judging by my memories of the Pacific Northwest, there's a good chance
>that your "giant rat" may have been an introduced oppossum.
My bud in Camas WA used to call them "Washington Speed Bumps".
--
PeteCresswell
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 01:16:30
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Now its Rats
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"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid > wrote in message
news:rujre39ed3c7bs782ipm0s5v6euq1qcr84@4ax.com...
> Per carlfogel@comcast.net:
> >Judging by my memories of the Pacific Northwest, there's a good chance
> >that your "giant rat" may have been an introduced oppossum.
>
> My bud in Camas WA used to call them "Washington Speed Bumps".
> --
> PeteCresswell
Traveling from NE Texas through Arkansas the roads are littered with
armadillo carcasses.
Chas.
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Date: 16 Sep 2007 13:46:31
From:
Subject: Re: Now its Rats
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:03:26 -0600, carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
>On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 08:57:29 -0700, Jay Beattie
><jbeattie@lindsayhart.com> wrote:
>
>>Ran over a giant rat yesterday -- actually I missed it, and the guy I
>>was riding with ran it over. A nice change from squirrels. They're
>>slower, but they don't change direction. This happened in a forested
>>area, so I don't think it was anyone's pet. -- Jay Beattie.
>
>Dear Jay,
>
>Judging by my memories of the Pacific Northwest, there's a good chance
>that your "giant rat" may have been an introduced oppossum.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Carl Fogel
Er, opossums come in two varieties, like camels. East of the
continental divide, their name has only one 'p', but when they cross
the Rockies they sometimes grow a second 'p' . . .
No, I don't think anyone's going to buy that excuse.
Anyway, opossums with one 'p' are prominent NorthWest roadkill:
"'Locally, opossums lead the pack when it comes to getting killed,'
said Kris Meyer, field supervisor for King County Animal Control.
'They're slow and have poor eyesight, relying instead on smell to get
around. When confronted with something they don't recognize, they tend
to open their mouth and glare.'"
"'That may have worked before vehicles — it doesn't work for them
now,'" said Jennifer Convy, rehabilitation manager for the Progressive
Animal Welfare Society in Lynnwood."
http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/texis.cgi/web/vortex/display?slug=roadkill09m&date=20020609
More and more I wonder whether a spell-checker would be a sound
investment, but I'm slow, have poor eyesight, and tend to open my
mouth and glare when confronted with words whose spelling I've
forgotten.
Cheers,
Carl Foggel
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 01:12:03
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Now its Rats
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<carlfogel@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:ef1re3leaqdoje3eplfa69dm0339vk9vhi@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:03:26 -0600, carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 08:57:29 -0700, Jay Beattie
> ><jbeattie@lindsayhart.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Ran over a giant rat yesterday -- actually I missed it, and the guy I
> >>was riding with ran it over. A nice change from squirrels. They're
> >>slower, but they don't change direction. This happened in a forested
> >>area, so I don't think it was anyone's pet. -- Jay Beattie.
> >
> >Dear Jay,
> >
> >Judging by my memories of the Pacific Northwest, there's a good chance
> >that your "giant rat" may have been an introduced oppossum.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Carl Fogel
>
> Er, opossums come in two varieties, like camels. East of the
> continental divide, their name has only one 'p', but when they cross
> the Rockies they sometimes grow a second 'p' . . .
>
> No, I don't think anyone's going to buy that excuse.
>
> Anyway, opossums with one 'p' are prominent NorthWest roadkill:
>
> "'Locally, opossums lead the pack when it comes to getting killed,'
> said Kris Meyer, field supervisor for King County Animal Control.
> 'They're slow and have poor eyesight, relying instead on smell to get
> around. When confronted with something they don't recognize, they tend
> to open their mouth and glare.'"
>
> "'That may have worked before vehicles - it doesn't work for them
> now,'" said Jennifer Convy, rehabilitation manager for the Progressive
> Animal Welfare Society in Lynnwood."
>
>
http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/texis.cgi/web/vortex/display?slug=roadkill09m&date=20020609
>
> More and more I wonder whether a spell-checker would be a sound
> investment, but I'm slow, have poor eyesight, and tend to open my
> mouth and glare when confronted with words whose spelling I've
> forgotten.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Foggel
EAT MORE POSSUM.....
Chas.
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 04:43:45
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Now its Rats
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In article
<ef1re3leaqdoje3eplfa69dm0339vk9vhi@4ax.com >,
carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> "'Locally, opossums lead the pack when it comes to getting killed,'
> said Kris Meyer, field supervisor for King County Animal Control.
> 'They're slow and have poor eyesight, relying instead on smell to get
> around.
How can they get past their own stench?
Stinkiest critter I ever came across;
I mean outside of our high school locker room.
> When confronted with something they don't recognize, they tend
> to open their mouth and glare.'"
--
Michael Press
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 21:27:55
From: Arthur Shapiro
Subject: Re: Now its Rats
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In article <rubrum-FC1E05.21434516092007@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com >, Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> wrote:
>How can they get past their own stench?
>Stinkiest critter I ever came across;
I used to be a member of the Opossum Society of the US, and faithfully feed
the wild ones who visit each night. I've never noticed any unusual odor from
a possum, and I've held and handled them, unlike most folks here.
Maybe they're different here in Southern California.
Art
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 22:40:40
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Now its Rats
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"Arthur Shapiro" <art.shapiro@unisys.com > wrote in message
news:fcpfss$16lh$2@si05.rsvl.unisys.com...
> In article <rubrum-FC1E05.21434516092007@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net > wrote:
>
> >How can they get past their own stench?
> >Stinkiest critter I ever came across;
>
> I used to be a member of the Opossum Society of the US, and faithfully
feed
> the wild ones who visit each night. I've never noticed any unusual odor
from
> a possum, and I've held and handled them, unlike most folks here.
>
> Maybe they're different here in Southern California.
>
> Art
Join the Possum Lodge:
http://www.redgreen.com/index.cfm?app=cart&a=pals&photoID=17
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 20:02:16
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Now its Rats
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In article <fcpfss$16lh$2@si05.rsvl.unisys.com >,
art.shapiro@unisys.com (Arthur Shapiro) wrote:
> In article <rubrum-FC1E05.21434516092007@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>, Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> >How can they get past their own stench?
> >Stinkiest critter I ever came across;
>
> I used to be a member of the Opossum Society of the US, and faithfully feed
> the wild ones who visit each night. I've never noticed any unusual odor from
> a possum, and I've held and handled them, unlike most folks here.
>
> Maybe they're different here in Southern California.
One wandered into my house, then snarled at me when
I told it to leave. Had a real stench on it.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 05:05:49
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Now its Rats
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In article <rubrum-FC1E05.21434516092007@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com >,
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net > wrote:
> In article
> <ef1re3leaqdoje3eplfa69dm0339vk9vhi@4ax.com>,
> carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
>
> > "'Locally, opossums lead the pack when it comes to getting killed,'
> > said Kris Meyer, field supervisor for King County Animal Control.
> > 'They're slow and have poor eyesight, relying instead on smell to get
> > around.
> How can they get past their own stench?
> Stinkiest critter I ever came across;
> I mean outside of our high school locker room.
Never faced a skunk?
A few years ago, a pair of skunks got into some sort of domestic dispute
a block from my house. The smell lingered in the air for some hours...
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 19:25:44
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Now its Rats
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In article
<rcousine-9C05FA.22054916092007@news.telus.net >,
Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote:
> In article <rubrum-FC1E05.21434516092007@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,
> Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <ef1re3leaqdoje3eplfa69dm0339vk9vhi@4ax.com>,
> > carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> >
> > > "'Locally, opossums lead the pack when it comes to getting killed,'
> > > said Kris Meyer, field supervisor for King County Animal Control.
> > > 'They're slow and have poor eyesight, relying instead on smell to get
> > > around.
> > How can they get past their own stench?
> > Stinkiest critter I ever came across;
> > I mean outside of our high school locker room.
>
> Never faced a skunk?
>
> A few years ago, a pair of skunks got into some sort of domestic dispute
> a block from my house. The smell lingered in the air for some hours...
A skunk sprays occasionally--in defense.
An opossum smells like the bottom of a rendering pot
all the time.
--
Michael Press
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