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Date: 10 Jul 2007 20:39:23
From: still me
Subject: Old TA Bottle cages w/single tube mount - secure ?
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Just curious... anyone ever use one of these? It seems like it would perpetually come loose, unless you tightened it so tight you removed the paint from your frame. (Then again, maybe the two bolt was just another improvement that didn't need to be).
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Date: 11 Jul 2007 15:28:03
From: Booker C. Bense
Subject: Re: Old TA Bottle cages w/single tube mount - secure ?
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In article <kfr793pmai3gj6fs8ml86pmib67i5fk9c1@4ax.com >, still me <wheeledBob@yahoo.com > wrote: >Just curious... anyone ever use one of these? It seems like it would >perpetually come loose, unless you tightened it so tight you removed >the paint from your frame. (Then again, maybe the two bolt was just >another improvement that didn't need to be). Mine's been attached to the frame since 1976 when I bought my bike used. It works just fine, it's not the most paint friendly device out there, but at this point the paint under the clamp is actually the best preserved on the bicycle. The bike was used a lot the first 10 years I owned it and sat as a project to revive "someday" for about 15 years and has gotten a few thousand miles in the last 5 years. I can't remember a single incident of the bottle cage coming loose. _ Booker C. Bense
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Date: 11 Jul 2007 07:18:09
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Old TA Bottle cages w/single tube mount - secure ?
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On Jul 11, 12:08 am, "* * Chas" <verktygj...@aol.spamski.com > wrote: > "still me" <wheeled...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:924893tl9tiblfg00hginh777m56vf174i@4ax.com... > > > > > > > On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:14:01 -0500, catzz66 > > <catz...@threeletterservice.com> wrote: > > > >still me wrote: > > >> Just curious... anyone ever use one of these? It seems like it would > > >> perpetually come loose, unless you tightened it so tight you removed > > >> the paint from your frame. (Then again, maybe the two bolt was just > > >> another improvement that didn't need to be). > > > >Not exactly sure what you are referring to, but I put a bottle cage on > > >an old bike once with computer component size zip ties. I kept the > > >frame from getting scratched by fashioning a gasket out of an old tube. > > > I only had that particular bike a year, but the rigged-up cage stayed > > >snug and held up better than the rest of the bike. > > > Yeah, I usually put something on there too to avoid scratching with > > all my bikes, 'cause they're all too old to have braze-ons for > > bottles. > > > But, this is the cage I was referring to: > >http://www.blackbirdsf.org/ta/images/ref216.p.jpg > > They worked great, no problems. I put black electrical tape on the > downtubes to keep the paint from getting chewed up. > Don't use electrical tape! Use twine! ;-)
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Date: 11 Jul 2007 07:11:47
From: Calvin Jones
Subject: Re: Old TA Bottle cages w/single tube mount - secure ?
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I have one of these on my Andre Bertin, they work well on the right size tube (28.6mm). There is a lot of surface contact and they do not come loose. An old trick regarding paint is to use electrical tape. However, use the sticky side to the clamp, not the frame. Install the mono-clamp to the cage and then run tape against the inside of the clamp. Use a razor blade to trim off the excess that is sticking out and beyond the cage. Now mount the cage and you paint will be protected and you have a clean look.
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Date: 10 Jul 2007 17:14:01
From: catzz66
Subject: Re: Old TA Bottle cages w/single tube mount - secure ?
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still me wrote: > Just curious... anyone ever use one of these? It seems like it would > perpetually come loose, unless you tightened it so tight you removed > the paint from your frame. (Then again, maybe the two bolt was just > another improvement that didn't need to be). Not exactly sure what you are referring to, but I put a bottle cage on an old bike once with computer component size zip ties. I kept the frame from getting scratched by fashioning a gasket out of an old tube. I only had that particular bike a year, but the rigged-up cage stayed snug and held up better than the rest of the bike.
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Date: 10 Jul 2007 21:48:35
From: John Thompson
Subject: Re: Old TA Bottle cages w/single tube mount - secure ?
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On 2007-07-10, catzz66 <catzz66@threeletterservice.com > wrote: > still me wrote: >> Just curious... anyone ever use one of these? It seems like it would >> perpetually come loose, unless you tightened it so tight you removed >> the paint from your frame. (Then again, maybe the two bolt was just >> another improvement that didn't need to be). > Not exactly sure what you are referring to, but I put a bottle cage on > an old bike once with computer component size zip ties. I kept the > frame from getting scratched by fashioning a gasket out of an old tube. > I only had that particular bike a year, but the rigged-up cage stayed > snug and held up better than the rest of the bike. The old Hi-E bottle cages were held on by a single hose clamp. -- John (john@os2.dhs.org)
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Date: 11 Jul 2007 09:14:50
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Old TA Bottle cages w/single tube mount - secure ?
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"John Thompson" <john@vector.os2.dhs.org > wrote in message news:slrnf98h83.hs4.john@vector.os2.dhs.org... > On 2007-07-10, catzz66 <catzz66@threeletterservice.com> wrote: > > > still me wrote: > >> Just curious... anyone ever use one of these? It seems like it would > >> perpetually come loose, unless you tightened it so tight you removed > >> the paint from your frame. (Then again, maybe the two bolt was just > >> another improvement that didn't need to be). > > > Not exactly sure what you are referring to, but I put a bottle cage on > > an old bike once with computer component size zip ties. I kept the > > frame from getting scratched by fashioning a gasket out of an old tube. > > I only had that particular bike a year, but the rigged-up cage stayed > > snug and held up better than the rest of the bike. > > The old Hi-E bottle cages were held on by a single hose clamp. > > -- > > John (john@os2.dhs.org) Used those too. They were very light - maybe saved a few grams - but bent easily. Chas.
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Date: 10 Jul 2007 23:04:52
From: still me
Subject: Re: Old TA Bottle cages w/single tube mount - secure ?
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:14:01 -0500, catzz66 <catzz66@threeletterservice.com > wrote: >still me wrote: >> Just curious... anyone ever use one of these? It seems like it would >> perpetually come loose, unless you tightened it so tight you removed >> the paint from your frame. (Then again, maybe the two bolt was just >> another improvement that didn't need to be). > >Not exactly sure what you are referring to, but I put a bottle cage on >an old bike once with computer component size zip ties. I kept the >frame from getting scratched by fashioning a gasket out of an old tube. > I only had that particular bike a year, but the rigged-up cage stayed >snug and held up better than the rest of the bike. Yeah, I usually put something on there too to avoid scratching with all my bikes, 'cause they're all too old to have braze-ons for bottles. But, this is the cage I was referring to: http://www.blackbirdsf.org/ta/images/ref216.p.jpg
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Date: 10 Jul 2007 22:08:16
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Old TA Bottle cages w/single tube mount - secure ?
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"still me" <wheeledBob@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:924893tl9tiblfg00hginh777m56vf174i@4ax.com... > On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:14:01 -0500, catzz66 > <catzz66@threeletterservice.com> wrote: > > >still me wrote: > >> Just curious... anyone ever use one of these? It seems like it would > >> perpetually come loose, unless you tightened it so tight you removed > >> the paint from your frame. (Then again, maybe the two bolt was just > >> another improvement that didn't need to be). > > > >Not exactly sure what you are referring to, but I put a bottle cage on > >an old bike once with computer component size zip ties. I kept the > >frame from getting scratched by fashioning a gasket out of an old tube. > > I only had that particular bike a year, but the rigged-up cage stayed > >snug and held up better than the rest of the bike. > > Yeah, I usually put something on there too to avoid scratching with > all my bikes, 'cause they're all too old to have braze-ons for > bottles. > > But, this is the cage I was referring to: > http://www.blackbirdsf.org/ta/images/ref216.p.jpg > They worked great, no problems. I put black electrical tape on the downtubes to keep the paint from getting chewed up. Chas.
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Date: 10 Jul 2007 23:26:06
From: David L. Johnson
Subject: Re: Old TA Bottle cages w/single tube mount - secure ?
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still me wrote: > But, this is the cage I was referring to: > http://www.blackbirdsf.org/ta/images/ref216.p.jpg Never seen one like that, and I used to have a TA bottle cage. It mounted on the bars, though. -- David L. Johnson "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines." --Ralph Waldo Emerson
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