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Date: 15 Jul 2007 20:51:32
From: Garrison Hilliard
Subject: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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Paris readies for Velib frenzy
By Emma-Jane Kirby
BBC News, Paris
The humble bicycle has been given a boost in Paris with the launch by the city
council of Velib, a free bike scheme to encourage people to give up the motor in
favour of pedal power.
Cycling in Paris is not a sport for the faint hearted.
The traffic runs as smoothly as a snail in treacle and drivers' tempers are
about as sweet as bitter aloes.
The local authority in Paris has deposited 20,000 heavy-duty bicycles in 750 or
so special racks around the city and anyone who wants one simply swipes his or
her ordinary travel card and pedals off wherever they want to go.
The bike does not have to be returned to the same pick-up point - you can take a
bike from a rack near the Eiffel Tower, cycle to the Pantheon and leave it in
the nearest Velib stand there.
Mathieu Fierling, the deputy director of the scheme, believes it will suit
Parisians and tourists alike.
"We've set things up so that the same card can be used for public transport and
for Velib. You can set up a subscription for just one day or for a whole week
and the subscription fee is minimal - one euro ($1.38; £0.68) to anyone who
wants a one-off go or 29 euros ($40; £20) for a year's subscription."
The Velib scheme is aimed at people who are making short journeys.
The first half hour of pedalling time is absolutely free but, if you fail to
return the bike after 30 minutes, you get charged an extra euro and the
penalties go up the later you are.
Car versus bike
While no-one can dispute that cycling is a one of the most eco-friendly forms of
transport, Christian Gerondeau, the president of the French federation of auto
clubs, says that while it is a fashionably green to use a bike, it is also green
to imagine it will solve Paris's notorious traffic jams.
"It relies on a wrong idea, the idea that you can change a car for a bicycle.
But it's not the case. These are two different problems. Bicycles will just be
very useful for those people going to do some shopping or visiting friends, not
far from home, but most of the time, when you use the car, it's for a long trip
so that's the reason why it will not solve at all the traffic problem in Paris."
Paris city hall expects to have about 20,000 regular Velib users by the end of
the year and plans to double the amount of Velib stations dotted around Paris.
The bikes do not come with cycling helmets but Mathieu Fierling insists safety
is a priority for the Paris authorities.
"The city council has launched a big campaign on bike safety. Every subscriber
to the Velib scheme will receive a leaflet with safety advice. There have also
been big efforts over the last few years to set up cycle routes around the city.
We hope that all this means there will be as few accidents as possible."
But can the Parisians be persuaded by pedal power?
The Tour de France marks out the French as a cycling-loving nation but in Paris,
a city of two million people, only 150,000 own bikes.
The Velib scheme has already worked well in Lyon, but in the capital it may be
harder to convince Parisians to give up their beloved cars.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/6899082.stm
Published: 2007/07/15 19:08:28 GMT
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Date: 17 Jul 2007 22:34:31
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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On Jul 17, 7:36 am, Peter Clinch <p.j.cli...@dundee.ac.uk > wrote:
> datakoll wrote:
> > people are pigs, animals. a pig or an animal is unable to use a
> > bicycle due to the maintenance requirements.
> > maintenance costs will reveal cultural quality of tourist and locals.
> > an olympic sport ?
>
> errrrr... Hatstand!
> --
> Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
> Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
> Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
> net p.j.cli...@dundee.ac.uk http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
trench warfare?
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Date: 17 Jul 2007 09:59:32
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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On Jul 17, 2:53 am, Peter Clinch <p.j.cli...@dundee.ac.uk > wrote:
> landotter wrote:
> > I wonder
> > what sort of maintenance these things will get. A simple drivetrain
> > like that could use a splort of motor oil every six months and
> > probably be fine.
>
> There's an article in the most recent VeloVision about a prior scheme
> (Lyon), also run by JC Deceaux, where the maintenance cost is
> highlighted as one of the negatives. Can't remember what it was, but
> much, much higher than I would have expected.
>
> Pete.
> --
> Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
> Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
> Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
> net p.j.cli...@dundee.ac.uk http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
people are pigs, animals. a pig or an animal is unable to use a
bicycle due to the maintenance requirements.
maintenance costs will reveal cultural quality of tourist and locals.
an olympic sport ?
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Date: 17 Jul 2007 12:36:44
From: Peter Clinch
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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datakoll wrote:
> people are pigs, animals. a pig or an animal is unable to use a
> bicycle due to the maintenance requirements.
> maintenance costs will reveal cultural quality of tourist and locals.
> an olympic sport ?
errrrr... Hatstand!
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 23:15:08
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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On Jul 16, 6:18 pm, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> TODAYS HEADLINE:
>
> GRANDMOTHER RAPED AND MURDERED
>
> Paris:
>
> Four Arabs on Velib bicycles raped and killed an 84 year old woman,
> sodomized her 13 year old grandaughter, then crushed her dogs head,
> riding off into the night on Velib cycles ...
AN AMERICAN PERSPECTIVE? Dukakis Dukakis. Robert Moses.
anyway. "Thank You" is an orgasm.
for example "OOOOOOOOH NIGEL CEDRIC SLIDES OFF INTO THE RAVINE TO HIS
DEATH GOD I'M HAVING THIS TERRIFIC ORGASM AAAHHHHHHHHH UHHNNNGH!"
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 22:18:59
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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TODAYS HEADLINE:
GRANDMOTHER RAPED AND MURDERED
Paris:
Four Arabs on Velib bicycles raped and killed an 84 year old woman,
sodomized her 13 year old grandaughter, then crushed her dogs head,
riding off into the night on Velib cycles ....
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 21:50:39
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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YOU KNOW,
could be during the interminable self congratulatory TdF ads, the
broadcast company charges Al Queda to pass messages to Gert Frobe.
but we digress. the Paris cycle experiment should be interesting
following its descent into hell.
Is it that the Thank you is a homosexual anti semtic abberation?
thank you.
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 21:34:10
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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On Jul 16, 5:11 pm, "James Thomson" <yosnap...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> "datakoll" <datak...@yahoo.com> a =E9crit:
>
> > if you prefur? why is it given a typewriter or microphone,
> > otherwise intelligent folk talk like Nigel Cedric?
>
> Gene Genie,
>
> Given a typewriter or microphone, I *am* Nigel Cedric, and you may claim
> your five pounds.
>
> James "otherwise intelligent" Thomson
Dear Headless,
who batter to answer the question? You runnin vegtable oil in the
trans, thank you!
My guess is at a moderate intelligence level, a vacuum fills the
writer's block where a stylized hardwired english takes "hold."
The next level up gives out kleeshays, like uh uh uh thank you!
thank you
datakoll
the euro/english broadcast or attempt to broadcast over interminable
self congratulatory ads for the TdF when keeerist we already watching
the TdF is A Gas when followed by Nascar's psuedo hillbillies from
Chicago
thank you!
I say the next time that oaf sez THANK YOU someone dump ice water on
it.
THANKYOU
AS FOR THE DUNCE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INTERMINABLE tDf AD
CHINA!
THANK YOU
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 21:14:52
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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On Jul 16, 1:47 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jul 16, 12:41 pm, Luigi de Guzman <luigi12...@cox.net> wrote:> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 09:57:42 -0700, landotter wrote:
>
> > > Thank goodness. A little buttah here, some wine, a dashing cycling cap
> > > or hair in the wind. Good stuff. Very French. I bet they even come
> > > with ashtrays.
>
> > You're behind he times again. Starting February, there has been a ban on
> > smoking in "public places"
>
> According to the law, riding a Velib with a Gauloise dangling from
> your lip will be legal, as long as you're not riding in museums,
> restaurants, or government offices. Smoking in the street is still OK.
>
> So do they come with ashtrays or what??
do they come with a guard on station with an Uzi?
We'll be looking for the bikes to show in Miami.
And the headlines "French cyclists mugged and killed by third world
gang."
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 10:47:35
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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On Jul 16, 12:41 pm, Luigi de Guzman <luigi12...@cox.net > wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 09:57:42 -0700, landotter wrote:
>
> > Thank goodness. A little buttah here, some wine, a dashing cycling cap
> > or hair in the wind. Good stuff. Very French. I bet they even come
> > with ashtrays.
>
> You're behind he times again. Starting February, there has been a ban on
> smoking in "public places"
>
According to the law, riding a Velib with a Gauloise dangling from
your lip will be legal, as long as you're not riding in museums,
restaurants, or government offices. Smoking in the street is still OK.
So do they come with ashtrays or what??
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 17:41:30
From: Luigi de Guzman
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 09:57:42 -0700, landotter wrote:
>
> Thank goodness. A little buttah here, some wine, a dashing cycling cap
> or hair in the wind. Good stuff. Very French. I bet they even come
> with ashtrays.
You're behind he times again. Starting February, there has been a ban on
smoking in "public places"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6032125.stm
Although cafes, nightclubs, and restaurants will be given until January
2008.
--
Luigi de Guzman
http://ouij.livejournal.com
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 10:29:17
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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On Jul 16, 11:27 am, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org > wrote:
> > landotter wrote:
> >> Why should they detail helmet advice? They're safety pamphlets, not
> >> hat catalogs.
> Tony Raven wrote:
> > Its probably the familiar BBC helmet fixation again since that is their
> > report that raises the question and refers to the safety pamphlets. OTOH
> > the report on BBC TV showed them all being ridden without helmets.
> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6899082.stm
>
> With only 160,000 bikes in a city of 2 million maybe there aren't enough
> kamikaze cyclists (running stoplights, zooming off sidewalks into
> traffic) in Paris to warrant crash gear?
What I wonder is what the average 'tude is of a utility cyclist in
Paris. I'm thinking that, despite not being popular in the city for
some time, there still exists a vestigial European node in the brain
that allows them to resume riding responsibly after a hiatus. If only
more Americans had such an organ that could be reawakened. ;-)
The design of the bikes seems to insist on a more leisurely riding
style. 50# bikes with dynohubs and swoopy fenders don't exactly make
you want to do a radical downhill run.
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 09:57:42
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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On Jul 16, 2:07 am, Tony Raven <tra...@gotadsl.co.uk > wrote:
> landotter wrote:
>
> > Why should they detail helmet advice? They're safety pamphlets, not
> > hat catalogs.
>
> Its probably the familiar BBC helmet fixation again since that is their
> report that raises the question and refers to the safety pamphlets.
> OTOH the report on BBC TV showed them all being ridden without helmets.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6899082.stm
>
Thank goodness. A little buttah here, some wine, a dashing cycling cap
or hair in the wind. Good stuff. Very French. I bet they even come
with ashtrays.
Stylish bikes, especially the rear end. What's up with the handlebars,
though?? Why all the excessive plastic? I'm also surprised that they
went for chain drive, at least that's what it looks like. I wonder
what sort of maintenance these things will get. A simple drivetrain
like that could use a splort of motor oil every six months and
probably be fine. I've seen utility bikes in Sweden that ran just
fine, though the individual links of the chain had become invisible.
Still, I was expecting to see belt drive.
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Date: 17 Jul 2007 07:53:07
From: Peter Clinch
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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landotter wrote:
> I wonder
> what sort of maintenance these things will get. A simple drivetrain
> like that could use a splort of motor oil every six months and
> probably be fine.
There's an article in the most recent VeloVision about a prior scheme
(Lyon), also run by JC Deceaux, where the maintenance cost is
highlighted as one of the negatives. Can't remember what it was, but
much, much higher than I would have expected.
Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 23:38:33
From: James Thomson
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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"landotter" <landotter@gmail.com > a écrit:
> Stylish bikes, especially the rear end. What's up with the
> handlebars, though?? Why all the excessive plastic?
My impression is that the plastic shell over the front end is supposed to
render the cables tamper-proof.
> I'm also surprised that they went for chain drive, at least that's
> what it looks like.
Right.
> I wonder what sort of maintenance these things will get. A simple
> drivetrain like that could use a splort of motor oil every six months and
> probably be fine.
I don't know what the routine maintenance schedule will be, but there are
teams tasked with redistributing bikes to zones of higher demand and pulling
in bikes in need of repair.
The main complaint on the MDB-IDF mailing list seems to be that the bike
racks at popular destinations fill up fast, meaning that the user has to
circulate looking for a parking spot before the free half-hour runs out:
" Arrivée à gare de lyon avec un vélib.
Sur les 6 stations les plus proches, toutes sont pleines,
4 en maintenance, et celles fonctionnelles incapables de
m'indiquer une station disponible proche.
En dépit, je prends le 1/4h supplémentaire "offert" et me
dirige vers Nation en espérant avoir moins de problème.
Mais là aussi, les 3 stations les plus proches sont pleines
et c'est enfin à la quatrième que j'arrive à rendre mon vélo! "
James Thomson
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 13:44:29
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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On Jul 16, 8:11 am, "James Thomson" <yosnap...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> "datakoll" <datak...@yahoo.com> a =E9crit:
>
> > SACRE BLUE house warming!!
>
> Ok, *pendaison de cr=E9maill=E8re* si tu pr=E9f=E8res.
>
> James Thomson
if you prefur? why is it given a typewriter or microphone, otherwise
intelligent folk talk like Nigel Cedric?
for example "OOOOOOOOH NIGEL CEDRIC SLIDES OFF INTO THE RAVINE TO HIS
DEATH THANK YOU.
thank you what?
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 23:11:58
From: James Thomson
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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"datakoll" <datakoll@yahoo.com > a écrit:
> if you prefur? why is it given a typewriter or microphone,
> otherwise intelligent folk talk like Nigel Cedric?
Gene Genie,
Given a typewriter or microphone, I *am* Nigel Cedric, and you may claim
your five pounds.
James "otherwise intelligent" Thomson
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 11:43:28
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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SACRE BLUE house warming!!
engarde, legion de pedaluers dicoveree!! zeeee breezzeee!
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 14:11:48
From: James Thomson
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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"datakoll" <datakoll@yahoo.com > a écrit:
> SACRE BLUE house warming!!
Ok, *pendaison de crémaillère* si tu préfères.
James Thomson
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 07:52:46
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/16/world/europe/16paris.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 00:32:11
From: Artemisia
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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On 15 juil, 23:31, _ <jtayNOSPAM...@hfDONTSENDMESPAMx.andara.com >
wrote:
> Would anyone who has one of these leaflets be so kind as to detail the
> helmet advice (if any) given therein?
The leaflet is available online at
http://www.velib.paris.fr/comment_ca_marche/securite
All it says about helmets, in the second to last line, is that wearing
one is recommended.
As of yesterday the operation was looking like a huge success, and a
political triumph for the Mayor of Paris, Bertrand Delanoe (who is
currently angling for the leadership of the Socialist Party after the
fallout from the electoral defeat of Segolene and her ghastly man,
Fran=E7ois Hollande). There was glorious weather, too, for the launch.
Everyone is happy and smiling, but bikes have that effect, as we all
know.
EFR
Ile de France
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 10:34:35
From: James Thomson
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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"Artemisia" <e.roselli@free.fr > a écrit:
> As of yesterday the operation was looking like a huge success
[snip]
> There was glorious weather, too, for the launch.
Riding back from a friend's housewarming in the rue du Faubourg St Honoré in
the not-so-early hours of Saturday morning, the bikes were already available
to borrow in the 8e, and by the time I made it out of bed on Saturday, the
thirty-space rack *en bas de chez moi* had been filled.
I spent part of Sunday afternoon at a terrasse de café in the 17e, and
groups of happy vélib' users were passing every few minutes. There was a
queue of about a dozen people waiting to borrow bikes at rue des
Batignolles, while the rack at rue Caulaincourt behind the butte de
Montmartre was full.
I haven't yet had either a very close look or a test ride, but a noteworthy
feature is that the hub-dynamo powered lights (LED front and rear to judge
by the colour) seem to be permanently switched on.
James Thomson
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 03:24:54
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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On Jul 15, 4:31 pm, _ <jtayNOSPAM...@hfDONTSENDMESPAMx.andara.com >
wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:51:32 +0000, Garrison Hilliard wrote:
>
> > The bikes do not come with cycling helmets but Mathieu Fierling insists safety
> > is a priority for the Paris authorities.
>
> > "The city council has launched a big campaign on bike safety. Every subscriber
> > to the Velib scheme will receive a leaflet with safety advice.
>
> Would anyone who has one of these leaflets be so kind as to detail the
> helmet advice (if any) given therein?
Why should they detail helmet advice? They're safety pamphlets, not
hat catalogs.
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 08:07:41
From: Tony Raven
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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landotter wrote:
>
> Why should they detail helmet advice? They're safety pamphlets, not
> hat catalogs.
>
Its probably the familiar BBC helmet fixation again since that is their
report that raises the question and refers to the safety pamphlets.
OTOH the report on BBC TV showed them all being ridden without helmets.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6899082.stm
Tony
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 11:27:38
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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> landotter wrote:
>> Why should they detail helmet advice? They're safety pamphlets, not
>> hat catalogs.
Tony Raven wrote:
> Its probably the familiar BBC helmet fixation again since that is their
> report that raises the question and refers to the safety pamphlets. OTOH
> the report on BBC TV showed them all being ridden without helmets.
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6899082.stm
With only 160,000 bikes in a city of 2 million maybe there aren't enough
kamikaze cyclists (running stoplights, zooming off sidewalks into
traffic) in Paris to warrant crash gear?
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 17:46:23
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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In article <469a9374$0$15557$426a74cc@news.free.fr >,
Artemisia <nospam@free.fr > writes:
> Tom Keats wrote:
>> Actually, that gives me an idea
>> for marinating chuck steaks for grilling.
>
> Hungry are you, Tom? Crappy things, diets.
>
> Here's a favorite recipe of mine for marinated beef. You can substitute
> Belgian Endive for the Bok Choy.
>
>
> Beef with Bok Choy
>
> Recipe By : San Francisco a la Carte
> Serving Size : 4
> Categories : Beef Main Dish
>
> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
> -------- ------------ --------------------------------
And thank you muchly for taking the time & care
to organize: "Amount" "Measure" "Ingredient" "Preparation"
columns.
You are magnificently beautiful.
cheers,
Tom
--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 15:19:31
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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In article <469a9374$0$15557$426a74cc@news.free.fr >,
Artemisia <nospam@free.fr > writes:
> Tom Keats wrote:
>> Actually, that gives me an idea
>> for marinating chuck steaks for grilling.
>
> Hungry are you, Tom?
Yes. You've caught me out.
> Crappy things, diets.
The Diet of Wurms didn't help Martin Luther (at first.) :-)
I've eaten worms before. Fried jellyfish, too.
Y'know what? I don't like 'em much.
> Here's a favorite recipe of mine for marinated beef. You can substitute
> Belgian Endive for the Bok Choy.
>
>
> Beef with Bok Choy
>
> Recipe By : San Francisco a la Carte
> Serving Size : 4
> Categories : Beef Main Dish
>
> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
> -------- ------------ --------------------------------
> MARINADE
> 1 tablespoon soy sauce
> 1 tablespoon sesame oil
> 1 tablespoon sherry
> 1 teaspoon brown sugar
> 1 teaspoon corn starch
>
> 1/2 pound steak
> 1 pound bok choy
> 2 tablespoons peanut oil
> 1 tablespoon ginger root -- minced
> 2 cloves garlic
>
> Mix marinade. Cut frozen beef steak thin against grain and marinate.
> Clean bok choy and cut in 2" pieces. Heat oil very hot. Add beef and
> stir till caramelized. Set aside. Stir in bok choy, ginger and garlic,
> stir fry, return beef. Heat through. Serve over glutinous or jasmine rice.
Ooooh, I like it!
I might sub sui choy for the bok choy.
Or maybe even beet tops. Maybe even
Belgian endives. As a Sagittarian, I
gotta get those veggies in there anyway.
Tah.
Basmati rice is good, too. But a plate-sized
chuck steak, I like with a substrate of horseradish.
cheers, & noodles w/out sesame oil is like a day w/out sunshine,
Tom
--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 21:31:42
From: _
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:51:32 +0000, Garrison Hilliard wrote:
>
> The bikes do not come with cycling helmets but Mathieu Fierling insists safety
> is a priority for the Paris authorities.
>
> "The city council has launched a big campaign on bike safety. Every subscriber
> to the Velib scheme will receive a leaflet with safety advice.
Would anyone who has one of these leaflets be so kind as to detail the
helmet advice (if any) given therein?
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 14:15:12
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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In article <r12l93567qeq46g0j3ov8duk5i6hr6o5de@4ax.com >,
Garrison Hilliard <garrison@efn.org > writes:
> Paris readies for Velib frenzy
> By Emma-Jane Kirby
> BBC News, Paris
....
> The traffic runs as smoothly as a snail in treacle
.... mmm ... sweet escargot.
Or garlic molasses. Actually, that gives me an idea
for marinating chuck steaks for grilling.
Actually-actually, a marinade consisting of black bean
sauce and rot-gut cheap sherry that ain't fit fer
drinkin'.[*]
Maybe some cracked peppercorns or those other li'l
buggers ... whadd're they called ... oh yeah: capers!
And a righteous shot of papaya juice.
What the heck -- scoop some hoi sin sauce in there, too.
And a dash of 5-spice powder. Paint a thin film of
olive oil onto the steaks and they won't stick to
the grille.
cheers,
Tom
[*] Andres Medium Dry Canadian Sherry. 22% alc/vol.
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 23:36:48
From: Artemisia
Subject: Re: Paris readies for Velib frenzy
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Tom Keats wrote:
> Actually, that gives me an idea
> for marinating chuck steaks for grilling.
Hungry are you, Tom? Crappy things, diets.
Here's a favorite recipe of mine for marinated beef. You can substitute
Belgian Endive for the Bok Choy.
Beef with Bok Choy
Recipe By : San Francisco a la Carte
Serving Size : 4
Categories : Beef Main Dish
Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
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MARINADE
1 tablespoon soy sauce
1 tablespoon sesame oil
1 tablespoon sherry
1 teaspoon brown sugar
1 teaspoon corn starch
1/2 pound steak
1 pound bok choy
2 tablespoons peanut oil
1 tablespoon ginger root -- minced
2 cloves garlic
Mix marinade. Cut frozen beef steak thin against grain and marinate.
Clean bok choy and cut in 2" pieces. Heat oil very hot. Add beef and
stir till caramelized. Set aside. Stir in bok choy, ginger and garlic,
stir fry, return beef. Heat through. Serve over glutinous or jasmine rice.
EFR
Having sent in my application for a Velib card today in Ile de France
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