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Date: 22 Sep 2007 20:03:16
From: bicycle_disciple
Subject: Pinarello ONDA fork
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Very interesting design to see. I was wondering if anyone has ridden
on this fork, how would you like to compare it to conventional
straight and curved bladed forks?
B.D
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Date: 23 Sep 2007 15:15:37
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com
Subject: Re: Pinarello ONDA fork - beamboy bleats again
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On Sep 23, 8:18 am, "Jambo" <-...@-.- > wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>
> news:i8GdnY0WmLxde2jbnZ2dnUVZ_hSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>
> > this is r.b.t. pinarello use carbon forks. carbon forks are evil. death
> > to carbon forks. because as /any/ fool knows, carbon forks shatter like
> > glass because they're "brittle", not tough, or strong or fatigue
> > resistant.
>
> Nah, you just have to massage them with squeezes, listen to them when they
> talk to you, or when they start singing. Because CF forks do that before
> they break. CF forks just need sympathetic ears and a shoulder to cry on,
> that's all. On the other hand, if you'd rather let an expert do the job,
> trywww.CarbonFiberWhisperers.com, and ask for "jim".
>
> > we know this because we have "engineers" like peter cole and aerospace
> > composites specialists like jambo who share their extensive knowledge,
> > expertise and experience, freely and so /so/ generously. and /reliably/.
>
> Thanks beamboy.
>
> > death to carbon forks.
>
> Now why you gotta dis dem like dat?
Where's TS and DT when ya need them?.This could be a five-some....
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Date: 23 Sep 2007 18:06:43
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Pinarello ONDA fork
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On Sep 22, 10:03 pm, bicycle_disciple <1.crazyboy.o...@gmail.com >
wrote:
> Very interesting design to see. I was wondering if anyone has ridden
> on this fork, how would you like to compare it to conventional
> straight and curved bladed forks?
>
It's definitely wigglier.
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Date: 23 Sep 2007 08:33:56
From: andresmuro@aol.com
Subject: Re: Pinarello ONDA fork
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On Sep 22, 10:25 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca > wrote:
> In article <1190516596.813032.122...@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>
> bicycle_disciple <1.crazyboy.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Very interesting design to see. I was wondering if anyone has ridden
> > on this fork, how would you like to compare it to conventional
> > straight and curved bladed forks?
>
> > B.D
>
> I hear it's stiff yet compliant.
aerodynamic, responsive and light.
>
> --
> Ryan Cousineau rcous...@sfu.cahttp://www.wiredcola.com/
> "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
> to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 23 Sep 2007 08:29:55
From: andresmuro@aol.com
Subject: Re: Pinarello ONDA fork
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On Sep 22, 10:08 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net > wrote:
> bicycle_disciple wrote:
> > Very interesting design to see. I was wondering if anyone has ridden
> > on this fork, how would you like to compare it to conventional
> > straight and curved bladed forks?
>
> > B.D
>
> this is r.b.t. pinarello use carbon forks. carbon forks are evil.
> death to carbon forks. because as /any/ fool knows, carbon forks
> shatter like glass because they're "brittle", not tough, or strong or
> fatigue resistant. we know this because we have "engineers" like peter
> cole and aerospace composites specialists like jambo who share their
> extensive knowledge, expertise and experience, freely and so /so/
> generously. and /reliably/.
>
> death to carbon forks.
u ok dude? too much caffeine this morning? did u miss your ride?
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Date: 23 Sep 2007 01:42:53
From: joseph.santaniello@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Pinarello ONDA fork
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On Sep 23, 5:03 am, bicycle_disciple <1.crazyboy.o...@gmail.com >
wrote:
> Very interesting design to see. I was wondering if anyone has ridden
> on this fork, how would you like to compare it to conventional
> straight and curved bladed forks?
>
> B.D
I have ridden Pinarello bikes with the Onda fork. The bikes were very
nice, but it is impossible to say how much the Onda fork had to do
with it. My road bike is a 2005 Pinarello without the Onda fork and I
think it rides nice too, so who knows.
One thing I don't like about the later Pinarello's like mine is that
they use non-"standard" headset bearings. They use some cartridge
bearings that can be bought at a machine supply place for cheap, but I
don't think bearings like that are meant to have such high side loads.
Mine have worn out pretty fast which is irritating.
Joseph
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Date: 23 Sep 2007 04:25:04
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Pinarello ONDA fork
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In article <1190516596.813032.122440@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >,
bicycle_disciple <1.crazyboy.only@gmail.com > wrote:
> Very interesting design to see. I was wondering if anyone has ridden
> on this fork, how would you like to compare it to conventional
> straight and curved bladed forks?
>
> B.D
I hear it's stiff yet compliant.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 22 Sep 2007 21:08:31
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Pinarello ONDA fork
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bicycle_disciple wrote:
> Very interesting design to see. I was wondering if anyone has ridden
> on this fork, how would you like to compare it to conventional
> straight and curved bladed forks?
>
> B.D
>
this is r.b.t. pinarello use carbon forks. carbon forks are evil.
death to carbon forks. because as /any/ fool knows, carbon forks
shatter like glass because they're "brittle", not tough, or strong or
fatigue resistant. we know this because we have "engineers" like peter
cole and aerospace composites specialists like jambo who share their
extensive knowledge, expertise and experience, freely and so /so/
generously. and /reliably/.
death to carbon forks.
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Date: 23 Sep 2007 10:18:14
From: Jambo
Subject: Re: Pinarello ONDA fork - beamboy bleats again
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"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net > wrote in message
news:i8GdnY0WmLxde2jbnZ2dnUVZ_hSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
> this is r.b.t. pinarello use carbon forks. carbon forks are evil. death
> to carbon forks. because as /any/ fool knows, carbon forks shatter like
> glass because they're "brittle", not tough, or strong or fatigue
> resistant.
Nah, you just have to massage them with squeezes, listen to them when they
talk to you, or when they start singing. Because CF forks do that before
they break. CF forks just need sympathetic ears and a shoulder to cry on,
that's all. On the other hand, if you'd rather let an expert do the job,
try www.CarbonFiberWhisperers.com, and ask for "jim".
> we know this because we have "engineers" like peter cole and aerospace
> composites specialists like jambo who share their extensive knowledge,
> expertise and experience, freely and so /so/ generously. and /reliably/.
Thanks beamboy.
> death to carbon forks.
Now why you gotta dis dem like dat?
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Date: 23 Sep 2007 08:24:10
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Pinarello ONDA fork - beamboy bleats again
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Jambo wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:i8GdnY0WmLxde2jbnZ2dnUVZ_hSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>> this is r.b.t. pinarello use carbon forks. carbon forks are evil. death
>> to carbon forks. because as /any/ fool knows, carbon forks shatter like
>> glass because they're "brittle", not tough, or strong or fatigue
>> resistant.
>
> Nah, you just have to massage them with squeezes, listen to them when they
> talk to you, or when they start singing. Because CF forks do that before
> they break. CF forks just need sympathetic ears and a shoulder to cry on,
> that's all. On the other hand, if you'd rather let an expert do the job,
> try www.CarbonFiberWhisperers.com, and ask for "jim".
>
>> we know this because we have "engineers" like peter cole and aerospace
>> composites specialists like jambo who share their extensive knowledge,
>> expertise and experience, freely and so /so/ generously. and /reliably/.
>
> Thanks beamboy.
>
>> death to carbon forks.
>
> Now why you gotta dis dem like dat?
>
>
you figured out what elasticity is yet? moron.
you figured out what density is yet? moron.
you figured out what modulus is yet? moron.
you figured out what a progressive failure mode is yet? moron.
no? that's because you're a complete fucking moron!
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Date: 23 Sep 2007 13:25:37
From: Jambo
Subject: Re: Pinarello ONDA fork - beamboy bleats again
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"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net > wrote in message
news:PZSdnesFspOHGGvbnZ2dnUVZ_ovinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
> you figured out what elasticity is yet? moron.
> you figured out what density is yet? moron.
> you figured out what modulus is yet? moron.
> you figured out what a progressive failure mode is yet? moron.
>
> no? that's because you're a complete fucking moron!
Yes, I see it all now.
"jim beam", r.b.t's legendary
- CF Fork Whisperer
- "Mettaleuregits" who attended "muterials skool" more than 30 years ago
- CIA Black Ops operative in Vietnam
- Privvy to CLASSIFIED military information on composites way before they
existed (Was it Bell? Was it "sikorski"? It's all CLASSIFIED)
Don't hassle this guy anymore about his sources of info on anything and
everything - they're CLASSIFIED.
Okay?
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Date: 23 Sep 2007 10:46:50
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Pinarello ONDA fork - beamboy bleats again
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Jambo wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:PZSdnesFspOHGGvbnZ2dnUVZ_ovinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>
>> you figured out what elasticity is yet? moron.
>> you figured out what density is yet? moron.
>> you figured out what modulus is yet? moron.
>> you figured out what a progressive failure mode is yet? moron.
>>
>> no? that's because you're a complete fucking moron!
>
> Yes, I see it all now.
>
> "jim beam", r.b.t's legendary
>
> - CF Fork Whisperer
> - "Mettaleuregits" who attended "muterials skool" more than 30 years ago
> - CIA Black Ops operative in Vietnam
> - Privvy to CLASSIFIED military information on composites way before they
> existed (Was it Bell? Was it "sikorski"? It's all CLASSIFIED)
>
> Don't hassle this guy anymore about his sources of info on anything and
> everything - they're CLASSIFIED.
>
> Okay?
>
it's all about density. ok? moron.
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Date: 24 Sep 2007 11:47:10
From: Jambo
Subject: Re: Pinarello ONDA fork - beamboy bleats again
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"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net > wrote in message
news:wvmdnQm4bvQXO2vbnZ2dnUVZ_vrinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
> Jambo wrote:
>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>> news:PZSdnesFspOHGGvbnZ2dnUVZ_ovinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>
>>> you figured out what elasticity is yet? moron.
>>> you figured out what density is yet? moron.
>>> you figured out what modulus is yet? moron.
>>> you figured out what a progressive failure mode is yet? moron.
>>>
>>> no? that's because you're a complete fucking moron!
>>
>> Yes, I see it all now.
>>
>> "jim beam", r.b.t's legendary
>>
>> - CF Fork Whisperer
>> - "Mettaleuregits" who attended "muterials skool" more than 30 years ago
>> - CIA Black Ops operative in Vietnam
>> - Privvy to CLASSIFIED military information on composites way before they
>> existed (Was it Bell? Was it "sikorski"? It's all CLASSIFIED)
>>
>> Don't hassle this guy anymore about his sources of info on anything and
>> everything - they're CLASSIFIED.
>>
>> Okay?
>>
>
> it's all about density. ok? moron.
Your head's density? Ok, I'll add it to the list of beamboy legendary
traits, thanks.
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Date: 22 Sep 2007 23:27:39
From: Paul Borg
Subject: Re: Pinarello ONDA fork
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"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net > wrote in message
news:i8GdnY0WmLxde2jbnZ2dnUVZ_hSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
> bicycle_disciple wrote:
> > Very interesting design to see. I was wondering if anyone has ridden
> > on this fork, how would you like to compare it to conventional
> > straight and curved bladed forks?
> >
> > B.D
> >
>
> this [snip]
I rarely announce my plonks, but you seem desperate for attention. Cheers.
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Date: 23 Sep 2007 07:50:06
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Pinarello ONDA fork
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Paul Borg wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:i8GdnY0WmLxde2jbnZ2dnUVZ_hSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>> bicycle_disciple wrote:
>>> Very interesting design to see. I was wondering if anyone has ridden
>>> on this fork, how would you like to compare it to conventional
>>> straight and curved bladed forks?
>>>
>>> B.D
>>>
>> this [snip]
>
> I rarely announce my plonks, but you seem desperate for attention. Cheers.
>
>
er, it's called "irony"...
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Date: 23 Sep 2007 13:06:34
From: Jambo
Subject: Re: Pinarello ONDA fork
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"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net > wrote in message
news:TeOdnZLmpeSC4GvbnZ2dnUVZ_o2vnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
> er, it's called "irony"...
Nah, it's called "bullshit".
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Date: 23 Sep 2007 10:22:44
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Pinarello ONDA fork
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Jambo wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:TeOdnZLmpeSC4GvbnZ2dnUVZ_o2vnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>> er, it's called "irony"...
>
> Nah, it's called "bullshit".
>
>
says the moron that doesn't understand "mettalurgy", and can't read a
company's website history, and has problems with high school science
experiments. i mean, density is something which jambo is all about -
because he's a fucking moron!
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Date: 24 Sep 2007 12:03:06
From: Jambo
Subject: Re: Pinarello ONDA fork
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"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net > wrote in message
news:F-6dnUz25u14PWvbnZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
> Jambo wrote:
>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>> news:TeOdnZLmpeSC4GvbnZ2dnUVZ_o2vnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>> er, it's called "irony"...
>>
>> Nah, it's called "bullshit".
>
> says the moron that doesn't understand "mettalurgy", and can't read a
> company's website history,
You mean your dying grasp of trying to salvage your "metarials skool"
lecture story more than 30 years ago, the one that was "black ops
classified" i.e. no-one-can-disprove-it-now story?
> and has problems with high school science
> experiments.
Sure. Why don't you just carry out the really simple experiment of the
gasoline and the lit match? It'll blow your little mind, I assure you.
> i mean, density is something which jambo is all about - because he's a
> fucking moron!
Yawn.
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