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Date: 03 Jul 2007 17:59:06
From: (PeteCresswell)
Subject: Prostatitis And Cycling?
My plumber says cycling is "a risk factor" for prostatitis.

He also says something about elevated intra-abdominal pressure
and lymph ducts that are common to the prostate and the lower
digestive tract.

Anybody got some cycling-specific insights/experience/wisdom?

--
PeteCresswell




 
Date: 04 Jul 2007 19:34:27
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Prostatitis And Cycling?
On Jul 4, 9:09 pm, lightninglad who? wrote:
> On Jul 4, 8:29 am, Tim McNamara wrote:
> > PeteCresswell wrote:
> > > My plumber says cycling is "a risk factor" for prostatitis.
>
> > > He also says something about elevated intra-abdominal pressure and
> > > lymph ducts that are common to the prostate and the lower digestive
> > > tract.
>
> > > Anybody got some cycling-specific insights/experience/wisdom?
>
> > The benefits from riding a bike outweigh the risks by a huge margin.
>
> And in any case, you can now buy bikes like the Challenge Seiran SL,
> Bacchetta Aero , M5 Tica and others which avoid the issues of saddle
> pressure. There's absolutely no need to stop cycling because of
> prostate or back problems when beautiful bikes like that are
> available. I have BPH and can't tolerate a saddle.http://www.flickr.com/photos/brecumbent/
>
> It's not how or what you ride - it's THAT you ride.

Nonsense. ALL DISCOMFORT PROBLEMS ON UPRIGHT BICYCLES CAN BE CURED BY
PROPER FIT. People who can not ride upright bicycles should walk
instead.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful





 
Date: 04 Jul 2007 19:09:02
From: lightninglad
Subject: Re: Prostatitis And Cycling?
On Jul 4, 8:29 am, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net > wrote:
> In article <3hhl83hftehgiier1ucgilg5h8iq6s2...@4ax.com>,
>
> "(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid> wrote:
> > My plumber says cycling is "a risk factor" for prostatitis.
>
> > He also says something about elevated intra-abdominal pressure and
> > lymph ducts that are common to the prostate and the lower digestive
> > tract.
>
> > Anybody got some cycling-specific insights/experience/wisdom?
>
> The benefits from riding a bike outweigh the risks by a huge margin.

And in any case, you can now buy bikes like the Challenge Seiran SL,
Bacchetta Aero , M5 Tica and others which avoid the issues of saddle
pressure. There's absolutely no need to stop cycling because of
prostate or back problems when beautiful bikes like that are
available. I have BPH and can't tolerate a saddle.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/brecumbent/

It's not how or what you ride - it's THAT you ride.



 
Date: 04 Jul 2007 21:58:58
From: Derk
Subject: Re: Prostatitis And Cycling?
(PeteCresswell) wrote:

> My plumber says cycling is "a risk factor" for prostatitis.
> Anybody got some cycling-specific insights/experience/wisdom?


http://www.geocities.com/iastr/ebroc.htm


Gr, Derk


  
Date: 04 Jul 2007 14:02:04
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Prostatitis And Cycling?
Derk wrote:
> (PeteCresswell) wrote:
>
>> My plumber says cycling is "a risk factor" for prostatitis.
>> Anybody got some cycling-specific insights/experience/wisdom?
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/iastr/ebroc.htm

Especially for the SOLO rider...




  
Date: 04 Jul 2007 22:03:13
From: Derk
Subject: Re: Prostatitis And Cycling?
First: I'm no doctor.

I had this problem too (non bacterial prostatitis). I tried everything there
is and though I was sceptical about it first, I was so desperate I tried it
and it really helped.

Cycling didn't make it any worse btw.

Gr, Derk




 
Date: 04 Jul 2007 12:21:04
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Prostatitis And Cycling?
On Jul 3, 3:59 pm, "(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid > wrote:
> My plumber says cycling is "a risk factor" for prostatitis.
>
> He also says something about elevated intra-abdominal pressure
> and lymph ducts that are common to the prostate and the lower
> digestive tract.
>
> Anybody got some cycling-specific insights/experience/wisdom?
>
> --
> PeteCresswell

Do you have any symptoms? If not, that's like saying eating can cause
obesity. Good bike fit, no symptoms like sleepy winkie and go ride.
Way to many fat, old urologists look at cycling and yell about yer
plumbing...



  
Date: 04 Jul 2007 09:03:53
From: (PeteCresswell)
Subject: Re: Prostatitis And Cycling?
Per Qui si parla Campagnolo:
>Do you have any symptoms? If not, that's like saying eating can cause
>obesity. Good bike fit, no symptoms like sleepy winkie and go ride.

Been there, done that for about forty years now.

No doubt whatsoever in my case there's a correlation.

Hasn't stopped me - but it's definitely slowed me down bc the
intrabdominal pressure/shared lymph ducts thing seems to be a
factor.

In light of your observation that an MD may just be repeating
what they've heard instead of speaking from actual experience I
was trolling for somebody else with some experience in managing
the problem.

So far, it sounds to me like nobody's gonna touch it.
--
PeteCresswell


   
Date: 04 Jul 2007 15:45:57
From: Sandy
Subject: Re: Prostatitis And Cycling?
Dans le message de news:5e6n83pb6309joqttgjto62gmuon1j83p7@4ax.com,
(PeteCresswell) <x@y.Invalid > a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
> Per Qui si parla Campagnolo:
>> Do you have any symptoms? If not, that's like saying eating can cause
>> obesity. Good bike fit, no symptoms like sleepy winkie and go ride.
>
> Been there, done that for about forty years now.
>
> No doubt whatsoever in my case there's a correlation.
>
> Hasn't stopped me - but it's definitely slowed me down bc the
> intrabdominal pressure/shared lymph ducts thing seems to be a
> factor.
>
> In light of your observation that an MD may just be repeating
> what they've heard instead of speaking from actual experience I
> was trolling for somebody else with some experience in managing
> the problem.
>
> So far, it sounds to me like nobody's gonna touch it.

I enjoyed a spell or two of prostatitis, and the advice from my physician
was to be more careful in laundering, especially rinsing, shorts - and
second, more important advice - to augment significantly the quantity of
sexual release in my life.

I took all the advice. Since then, 15 years ago, only one new occurrence,
and it occurred during prolonged travel with no laundry done. Note, I only
mentioned the laundry.
--
Sandy
--
Il n'est aucune sorte de sensation qui soit plus vive
que celle de la douleur ; ses impressions sont sûres,
elles ne trompent point comme celles du plaisir.
- de Sade.




    
Date: 04 Jul 2007 13:59:52
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Prostatitis And Cycling?
Sandy wrote:

> I enjoyed a spell or two of prostatitis, and the advice from my
> physician was to be more careful in laundering, especially rinsing,
> shorts - and second, more important advice - to augment significantly
> the quantity of sexual release in my life.
>
> I took all the advice. Since then, 15 years ago, only one new
> occurrence, and it occurred during prolonged travel with no laundry
> done. Note, I only mentioned the laundry.

The phrase "dirty dog" comes to mind. (Seems to be a theme with you today!)




    
Date: 04 Jul 2007 13:23:26
From: Mark
Subject: Re: Prostatitis And Cycling?
Sandy wrote:
> Dans le message de news:5e6n83pb6309joqttgjto62gmuon1j83p7@4ax.com,
> (PeteCresswell) <x@y.Invalid> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
>> Per Qui si parla Campagnolo:
>>> Do you have any symptoms? If not, that's like saying eating can cause
>>> obesity. Good bike fit, no symptoms like sleepy winkie and go ride.
>> Been there, done that for about forty years now.
>>
>> No doubt whatsoever in my case there's a correlation.
>>
>> Hasn't stopped me - but it's definitely slowed me down bc the
>> intrabdominal pressure/shared lymph ducts thing seems to be a
>> factor.
>>
>> In light of your observation that an MD may just be repeating
>> what they've heard instead of speaking from actual experience I
>> was trolling for somebody else with some experience in managing
>> the problem.
>>
>> So far, it sounds to me like nobody's gonna touch it.
>
> I enjoyed a spell or two of prostatitis, and the advice from my physician
> was to be more careful in laundering, especially rinsing, shorts

Sandy, I understand that cleanliness and laundry are good things, and
desirable in any case, not the least for avoiding saddle boils, but I
don't understand how it's supposed to make a difference in prostatitis.
I figure that if poor hygiene is the cause, you should also see lots
of urinary tract infections in general, not just prostatitis.

I'm not a physician and am often wrong about such things, though. Did
your doctor give any explanation? Did s/he indicate the prostatitis was
likely bacterial in nature?

- and
> second, more important advice - to augment significantly the quantity of
> sexual release in my life.

Hmmm... hard to argue with that.

Mark J.


     
Date: 05 Jul 2007 08:06:12
From: Derk
Subject: Re: Prostatitis And Cycling?
Mark wrote:

> I'm not a physician and am often wrong about such things, though. Did
> your doctor give any explanation? Did s/he indicate the prostatitis was
> likely bacterial in nature?
Most often the cause isn't bacterial.

Derk


     
Date: 04 Jul 2007 20:40:43
From: (PeteCresswell)
Subject: Re: Prostatitis And Cycling?
Per Mark:
> Did s/he indicate the prostatitis was
>likely bacterial in nature?

Prostatitis in and of itself is just "itis of the prostate" -
i.e. irritation/inflammation.

Then you get into "Bacterial prostatitis" and whatever other
subtypes there are depending on the cause of the "itis".

There's even one that afflicts people who have has so many
bacterial infections that parts of the gland have calcified. For
them, just jarring the thing causes inflammation.
--
PeteCresswell


     
Date: 04 Jul 2007 22:33:57
From: Sandy
Subject: Re: Prostatitis And Cycling?
Dans le message de news:uM6dnWdeq4QinBHbnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com,
Mark <remove.mandmlj.this@remove.comcast.this.net > a réfléchi, et puis a
déclaré :
> Sandy wrote:
>> Dans le message de news:5e6n83pb6309joqttgjto62gmuon1j83p7@4ax.com,
>> (PeteCresswell) <x@y.Invalid> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
>>> Per Qui si parla Campagnolo:
>>>> Do you have any symptoms? If not, that's like saying eating can
>>>> cause obesity. Good bike fit, no symptoms like sleepy winkie and
>>>> go ride.
>>> Been there, done that for about forty years now.
>>>
>>> No doubt whatsoever in my case there's a correlation.
>>>
>>> Hasn't stopped me - but it's definitely slowed me down bc the
>>> intrabdominal pressure/shared lymph ducts thing seems to be a
>>> factor.
>>>
>>> In light of your observation that an MD may just be repeating
>>> what they've heard instead of speaking from actual experience I
>>> was trolling for somebody else with some experience in managing
>>> the problem.
>>>
>>> So far, it sounds to me like nobody's gonna touch it.
>>
>> I enjoyed a spell or two of prostatitis, and the advice from my
>> physician was to be more careful in laundering, especially rinsing,
>> shorts
>
> Sandy, I understand that cleanliness and laundry are good things, and
> desirable in any case, not the least for avoiding saddle boils, but I
> don't understand how it's supposed to make a difference in
> prostatitis. I figure that if poor hygiene is the cause, you should
> also see lots of urinary tract infections in general, not just
> prostatitis.
>
> I'm not a physician and am often wrong about such things, though. Did
> your doctor give any explanation? Did s/he indicate the prostatitis
> was likely bacterial in nature?

You're plain evil! Making me remember the "push it out the front door"
instant remedy.

I didn't ask, as the therapies have been more than satisfactory. Even
during the winter break. Especially during the winter break.




    
Date: 04 Jul 2007 15:59:11
From: (PeteCresswell)
Subject: Re: Prostatitis And Cycling?
Per Sandy:
> to augment significantly the quantity of
>sexual release in my life.

In support of that, my plumber asserts that prostatitis is
virtually endemic among the Catholic priesthood.

Also among power lifters (the intra-abdominal pressure/shared
lymph ducts thing...)
--
PeteCresswell


 
Date: 03 Jul 2007 22:31:32
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Prostatitis And Cycling?
(PeteCresswell) wrote:
> My plumber says cycling is "a risk factor" for prostatitis.
> He also says something about elevated intra-abdominal pressure
> and lymph ducts that are common to the prostate and the lower
> digestive tract.
> Anybody got some cycling-specific insights/experience/wisdom?

Today, I put new tires and tape on a 1980 Raleigh Team Pro I sold new.
Owner was 1936 US track champion, says he rides every morning after
milking the cows. I suggested he could retire and ride all the time. At
87, he says he's seen a lot and "when people retire, they die".

Keep riding.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


 
Date: 03 Jul 2007 17:58:57
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Prostatitis And Cycling?
(PeteCresswell) wrote:

> My plumber says cycling is "a risk factor" for prostatitis.

My gardener says your plumber is a moron.

> He also says something about elevated intra-abdominal pressure
> and lymph ducts that are common to the prostate and the lower
> digestive tract.

Maybe he could check me out! I've had a lower right ab pain for over a year
that the docs can't diagnose much less solve. (Went from hernia to pinched
nerve to gallstones to generic "abdominal wall strain". I've been PROBED,
baby!)

> Anybody got some cycling-specific insights/experience/wisdom?

I'll call Rotor-Rooter and ask. :-P

BS (a little)




 
Date: 03 Jul 2007 18:00:42
From: Paul Cassel
Subject: Re: Prostatitis And Cycling?
(PeteCresswell) wrote:
> My plumber says cycling is "a risk factor" for prostatitis.
>

Ask him to cite references. That usually shuts plumbers up.


 
Date: 03 Jul 2007 16:53:20
From:
Subject: Re: Prostatitis And Cycling?
On Jul 3, 3:29 pm, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net > wrote:
> In article <3hhl83hftehgiier1ucgilg5h8iq6s2...@4ax.com>,
>
> "(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid> wrote:
> > My plumber says cycling is "a risk factor" for prostatitis.
>
> > He also says something about elevated intra-abdominal pressure and
> > lymph ducts that are common to the prostate and the lower digestive
> > tract.
>
> > Anybody got some cycling-specific insights/experience/wisdom?
>
> The benefits from riding a bike outweigh the risks by a huge margin.

Particularly if they are not evenly distributed among individuals-




 
Date: 03 Jul 2007 17:29:15
From: Tim McNamara
Subject: Re: Prostatitis And Cycling?
In article <3hhl83hftehgiier1ucgilg5h8iq6s2m3a@4ax.com >,
"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid > wrote:

> My plumber says cycling is "a risk factor" for prostatitis.
>
> He also says something about elevated intra-abdominal pressure and
> lymph ducts that are common to the prostate and the lower digestive
> tract.
>
> Anybody got some cycling-specific insights/experience/wisdom?

The benefits from riding a bike outweigh the risks by a huge margin.


 
Date: 03 Jul 2007 17:24:56
From: mrbubl
Subject: Re: Prostatitis And Cycling?
(PeteCresswell) wrote:
> My plumber says cycling is "a risk factor" for prostatitis.
>
> He also says something about elevated intra-abdominal pressure
> and lymph ducts that are common to the prostate and the lower
> digestive tract.
>
> Anybody got some cycling-specific insights/experience/wisdom?
>
he is ill informed unless his name is Goldstein, then he knows
everything about cycling and prostates, NOT


 
Date: 04 Jul 2007 00:23:30
From: Lou Holtman
Subject: Re: Prostatitis And Cycling?
(PeteCresswell) wrote:
> My plumber says cycling is "a risk factor" for prostatitis.
>
> He also says something about elevated intra-abdominal pressure
> and lymph ducts that are common to the prostate and the lower
> digestive tract.
>
> Anybody got some cycling-specific insights/experience/wisdom?
>


You discuss medical issues with your plumber?

Lou
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