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Date: 22 May 2007 17:56:26
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Subject: Re: Do these pedals have FLOAT?
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On May 22, 5:23 pm, jobst.bra...@stanfordalumni.org wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2Bjt5NvfUE
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> Jobst Brandt
That guy is good but this guy...:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBF6J8MS0rI&mode=related&search=
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Date: 03 Jun 2007 07:47:50
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Re: Do these pedals have FLOAT?
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On May 22, 8:17 pm, "G.T." <getne...@dslextreme.com > wrote:
> Yeah, he's amazing from a technical standpoint but the guys with
> BMX/freestyle backgrounds have so much more flow that I find them more fun
> to watch. The trials guys do too much hopping.
Different kinds of flow. Wonderful.
Hey, I borrowed a good BMX bike a few months ago, down at the Austin
BMX park. Headed for that first jump, unseen hands steered me around
to the right, and just in time, too.
We called it a career.
Like Mr. Callahan said...
--D-y
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Date: 25 May 2007 01:43:58
From: AndyMorris
Subject: Re: Do these pedals have FLOAT?
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doug.landau@gmail.com wrote:
> On May 22, 5:23 pm, jobst.bra...@stanfordalumni.org wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2Bjt5NvfUE
>>
>> Jobst Brandt
>
>
>
> That guy is good but this guy...:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBF6J8MS0rI&mode=related&search=
Should go the whole hog and get a pogo stick.
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Date: 24 May 2007 05:40:12
From: Anthony A.
Subject: Re: Do these pedals have FLOAT?
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On May 24, 6:02 am, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com >
wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 03:20:35 -0400, "Phil, Non-Squid"
>
> <nots...@iwanttogiveyou.this> wrote:
> >20 lbs? Not for the BMXers. More like at least 30.
>
> Bike weight? Those are very small, minimalist bikes that probably
> weight a lot less than 30lbs. I doubt that but don't have any specific
> info. Do you?
>
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JT - check this bike:
http://www.danscomp.com/101187.php?cat=BIKES
a VERY high end Eastern BMX bike - $800 is steep in BMX. 27 pounds
manufacturers claimed weight.
Big thick tubes and big heavy components are the deal in BMX.
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Date: 24 May 2007 09:40:03
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Do these pedals have FLOAT?
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On 24 May 2007 05:40:12 -0700, "Anthony A." <ana2002@med.cornell.edu >
wrote:
>On May 24, 6:02 am, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
>wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 May 2007 03:20:35 -0400, "Phil, Non-Squid"
>>
>> <nots...@iwanttogiveyou.this> wrote:
>> >20 lbs? Not for the BMXers. More like at least 30.
>>
>> Bike weight? Those are very small, minimalist bikes that probably
>> weight a lot less than 30lbs. I doubt that but don't have any specific
>> info. Do you?
>
>JT - check this bike:
>http://www.danscomp.com/101187.php?cat=BIKES
>a VERY high end Eastern BMX bike - $800 is steep in BMX. 27 pounds
>manufacturers claimed weight.
>Big thick tubes and big heavy components are the deal in BMX.
Thanks.
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Date: 22 May 2007 18:17:05
From: G.T.
Subject: Re: Do these pedals have FLOAT?
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<doug.landau@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1179881786.811640.86380@u36g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On May 22, 5:23 pm, jobst.bra...@stanfordalumni.org wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2Bjt5NvfUE
>>
>> Jobst Brandt
>
>
>
> That guy is good but this guy...:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBF6J8MS0rI&mode=related&search=
>
Yeah, he's amazing from a technical standpoint but the guys with
BMX/freestyle backgrounds have so much more flow that I find them more fun
to watch. The trials guys do too much hopping.
Greg
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Date: 22 May 2007 21:42:25
From: DougC
Subject: Re: Do these pedals have FLOAT?
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G.T. wrote:
>
> Yeah, he's amazing from a technical standpoint but the guys with
> BMX/freestyle backgrounds have so much more flow that I find them more fun
> to watch. The trials guys do too much hopping.
>
> Greg
The BMX guy is awesome, doing all that on what is basically a normal
BMX/freestyle setup.
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The trials guys do everything at a snail's pace, and don't use real bikes.
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Date: 23 May 2007 12:33:59
From: Jay Beattie
Subject: Re: Do these pedals have FLOAT?
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"DougC" <dcimper@norcom2000.com > wrote in message
news:PRN4i.197$Ch.86@newsfe06.lga...
> G.T. wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, he's amazing from a technical standpoint but the guys with
>> BMX/freestyle backgrounds have so much more flow that I find them more
>> fun to watch. The trials guys do too much hopping.
>>
>> Greg
>
> The BMX guy is awesome, doing all that on what is basically a normal
> BMX/freestyle setup.
I can't believe the apparent elevation these guys can get (in all of the
clips) -- hopping up to walls or rails that appear to be four or five feet
off the ground. This is with both wheels, or on a rear wheelie (not the
front wheel up, hoist the rear wheel thing). There is one shot with a guy
hopping over a shopping cart. Is that the low-angle/wide-angle affect, or
are these guys doing the equivalent of a standing jump of four feet straight
up with a bike? If so, they should be playing with Spud Webb. I have
enough trouble hopping my road bike over a 5" curb. -- Jay Beattie.
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Date: 23 May 2007 17:10:26
From:
Subject: Re: Do these pedals have FLOAT?
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On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:33:59 -0700, "Jay Beattie"
<jbeattie@lindsayhart.com > wrote:
>
>"DougC" <dcimper@norcom2000.com> wrote in message
>news:PRN4i.197$Ch.86@newsfe06.lga...
>> G.T. wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, he's amazing from a technical standpoint but the guys with
>>> BMX/freestyle backgrounds have so much more flow that I find them more
>>> fun to watch. The trials guys do too much hopping.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>
>> The BMX guy is awesome, doing all that on what is basically a normal
>> BMX/freestyle setup.
>
>I can't believe the apparent elevation these guys can get (in all of the
>clips) -- hopping up to walls or rails that appear to be four or five feet
>off the ground. This is with both wheels, or on a rear wheelie (not the
>front wheel up, hoist the rear wheel thing). There is one shot with a guy
>hopping over a shopping cart. Is that the low-angle/wide-angle affect, or
>are these guys doing the equivalent of a standing jump of four feet straight
>up with a bike? If so, they should be playing with Spud Webb. I have
>enough trouble hopping my road bike over a 5" curb. -- Jay Beattie.
Dear Jay,
Those evil little wretches do jump like the dickens, but they aren't
leaping quite as high as we think at first, curse them.
First, go and measure a shopping cart--they're not 48 inches high.
Next, remember that the horrible little creatures start out with their
feet at the height of the horizontal pedals. They jump their scrawny
little 140-pound bodies from that initial height, not the ground, and
then yank up the 20 pound bike after them.
The vile little monsters are also yanking their legs up and their
upper bodies down. The result is that their belts (center of mass) are
reaching more modest heights than we think because their feet are
coming up while their heads are coming down.
If you're looking at other sites, where the miserable little beasts
are riding bikes with suspension, you'll see them getting even more
height by slamming down to compress the springs so that they can start
their leaps with an extra assist.
But I still hate them, one and all.
None of these tricks work in the kind of vertical-leap measurements
that you see basketball players doing against walls.
Here's a link to the Sargent test:
http://www.topendsports.com/testing/tests/vertjump.htm
For that kind of leaping, 27.6 inches is excellent for humans, while
the record is probably somewhere over 48 inches for basketball players
(who are sometimes photographed deliberately hovering and must then
return to their home planets). Here's a typical page squabbling about
the maximum:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060605153957AA1zGiG
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 24 May 2007 03:20:35
From: Phil, Non-Squid
Subject: Re: Do these pedals have FLOAT?
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carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:33:59 -0700, "Jay Beattie"
> <jbeattie@lindsayhart.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"DougC" <dcimper@norcom2000.com> wrote in message
>>news:PRN4i.197$Ch.86@newsfe06.lga...
>>> G.T. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, he's amazing from a technical standpoint but the guys with
>>>> BMX/freestyle backgrounds have so much more flow that I find them
>>>> more fun to watch. The trials guys do too much hopping.
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>
>>> The BMX guy is awesome, doing all that on what is basically a normal
>>> BMX/freestyle setup.
>>
>>I can't believe the apparent elevation these guys can get (in all of
>>the clips) -- hopping up to walls or rails that appear to be four or
>>five feet off the ground. This is with both wheels, or on a rear
>>wheelie (not the front wheel up, hoist the rear wheel thing). There
>>is one shot with a guy hopping over a shopping cart. Is that the
>>low-angle/wide-angle affect, or are these guys doing the equivalent
>>of a standing jump of four feet straight up with a bike? If so, they
>>should be playing with Spud Webb. I have enough trouble hopping my
>>road bike over a 5" curb. -- Jay Beattie.
>
> Dear Jay,
>
> Those evil little wretches do jump like the dickens, but they aren't
> leaping quite as high as we think at first, curse them.
>
> First, go and measure a shopping cart--they're not 48 inches high.
>
> Next, remember that the horrible little creatures start out with their
> feet at the height of the horizontal pedals. They jump their scrawny
> little 140-pound bodies from that initial height, not the ground, and
> then yank up the 20 pound bike after them.
20 lbs? Not for the BMXers. More like at least 30. And I don't know if
having a lower body weight helps. I would think it would be easier to
maneuver if one was a heavier person. I had trouble throwing around a bike
that's about a quarter of my weight.
> The vile little monsters are also yanking their legs up and their
> upper bodies down. The result is that their belts (center of mass) are
> reaching more modest heights than we think because their feet are
> coming up while their heads are coming down.
>
> If you're looking at other sites, where the miserable little beasts
> are riding bikes with suspension, you'll see them getting even more
> height by slamming down to compress the springs so that they can start
> their leaps with an extra assist.
I used to have a dual-suspension bike that would let me ride up a 10-stair
(about 5 feet) because of the suspension. My 135 lbs probably helped a lot
with that.
> But I still hate them, one and all.
It's all about technique and practice. I got to the point where I could
ride up onto 3-foot high walls, but by no means could I acheive a full jump
onto them. Riding backwards was elusive for me.
> None of these tricks work in the kind of vertical-leap measurements
> that you see basketball players doing against walls.
>
> Here's a link to the Sargent test:
>
> http://www.topendsports.com/testing/tests/vertjump.htm
>
> For that kind of leaping, 27.6 inches is excellent for humans, while
> the record is probably somewhere over 48 inches for basketball players
> (who are sometimes photographed deliberately hovering and must then
> return to their home planets). Here's a typical page squabbling about
> the maximum:
>
> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060605153957AA1zGiG
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Fogel
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Date: 24 May 2007 06:02:31
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Do these pedals have FLOAT?
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 03:20:35 -0400, "Phil, Non-Squid"
<notsure@iwanttogiveyou.this > wrote:
>20 lbs? Not for the BMXers. More like at least 30.
Bike weight? Those are very small, minimalist bikes that probably
weight a lot less than 30lbs. I doubt that but don't have any specific
info. Do you?
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