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Date: 10 Jun 2007 15:53:03
From: still me
Subject: Retube those tubulars!
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Anyone tried this?
http://www.tirealert.com/
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 11:36:47
From:
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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Tom, I only patch not replace the whole tube. I leave that job up to
TA ($20 or $16 for 3+).
It's a very satisfying ride on good cotton CX's with butyl tubes. Now
I know what you clincher guys enjoy by not having to pump you tires up
every day.
Greg Hall
On Jun 13, 9:29 am, "Tom Nakashima" <t...@slac.stanford.edu > wrote:
> <vc_s...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> Where do you guys get the tubes at? Or will any latex bike tube work?
> I used to repair flats on sew-ups when I rode them back years ago, but
> never replaced a whole tube.
>
> I once had a Clement Seta Silk on a Fiamme Red Label front rim that I kept
> putting off to replace, although the core was beginning to show. The tire
> felt so good that I wanted to prolong that feel...no flats on that tire
> either. You tubular riders know how long it takes to break in a new tire,
> and when you finally do break one in, find a tire that feels like riding on
> air. Well I had one ride too many with that Clement Seta and blew the tire
> out on a descent, crashed and broke my collarbone.
> I sometimes do miss riding on sew-ups, but what I don't miss are the
> repairs.
> -tom
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Date: 12 Jun 2007 13:53:08
From:
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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I've used TA a couple of times now an am completely satisfied with the
service they provide and highly recommend them. I patch my own
tubulars but there are times when it pays to just replace the tube
(and get new, good quality, well adhered base tape ta boot). The ones
I sent were a batch of low mileage Vittoria CX's where the valve stem
had defects (also a Deda that I suspect had the same problem).
Greg Hall
On Jun 11, 9:02 pm, "David L. Johnson" <david.john...@lehigh.edu >
wrote:
> still me wrote:
> > Anyone tried this?
>
> >http://www.tirealert.com/
>
> Sheesh. If you insist on using tubulars, either:
>
> 1) Learn to repair them, or
>
> 2) Don't whine about the cost of replacing them when they go flat, and
> toss the flat ones to some needy soul who chose option #1.
>
> --
>
> David L. Johnson
>
> Let's not escape into mathematics. Let's stay with reality.
> -- Michael Crichton
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 07:29:05
From: Tom Nakashima
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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<vc_slim@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1181681588.200386.103330@q19g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> I've used TA a couple of times now an am completely satisfied with the
> service they provide and highly recommend them. I patch my own
> tubulars but there are times when it pays to just replace the tube
> (and get new, good quality, well adhered base tape ta boot). The ones
> I sent were a batch of low mileage Vittoria CX's where the valve stem
> had defects (also a Deda that I suspect had the same problem).
>
> Greg Hall
Where do you guys get the tubes at? Or will any latex bike tube work?
I used to repair flats on sew-ups when I rode them back years ago, but
never replaced a whole tube.
I once had a Clement Seta Silk on a Fiamme Red Label front rim that I kept
putting off to replace, although the core was beginning to show. The tire
felt so good that I wanted to prolong that feel...no flats on that tire
either. You tubular riders know how long it takes to break in a new tire,
and when you finally do break one in, find a tire that feels like riding on
air. Well I had one ride too many with that Clement Seta and blew the tire
out on a descent, crashed and broke my collarbone.
I sometimes do miss riding on sew-ups, but what I don't miss are the
repairs.
-tom
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Date: 12 Jun 2007 05:25:53
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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On Jun 11, 7:15 am, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Jun 11, 7:50 am, Qui si parla Campagnolo <p...@vecchios.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 10, 10:09 am, Ozark Bicycle
>
> > <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> > > On Jun 10, 10:53 am, still me <wheeled...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Anyone tried this?
>
> > > >http://www.tirealert.com/
>
> > > Tubular tire repair, only $16 (+ one way shipping and up. Just another
> > > in the endless list of reasons not to use tubies in the age of high
> > > performance clinchers.
>
> > Or take your thread out and repair your tubular in about 15
> > minutes...not brain surgery afterall.
>
> Patching the tube? Been there, done that.....what a PIA. (I still have
> a few Velox tubie repair kits in with the tire/tube/patch stuff.)
>
> But the OP was discussing replacing, not patching, the tube.
>
> IMO, when lightweight tubie rims (I used GEL front/GL rear) were
> easily available *and* before clinchers got so darn good, tubies were
> worth the candle. But not now. YMMV, enjoy.
He was asking about tirealert, which does change the tube but YMMV is
correct. Repairing not really a PIA and ya patch tubes on clinchers,
right?
Clichers are better but....ahh never mind, not gonna change your mind
anyway......I ride tubies, see no compelling reason to change.
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 22:02:44
From: David L. Johnson
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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still me wrote:
> Anyone tried this?
>
> http://www.tirealert.com/
>
Sheesh. If you insist on using tubulars, either:
1) Learn to repair them, or
2) Don't whine about the cost of replacing them when they go flat, and
toss the flat ones to some needy soul who chose option #1.
--
David L. Johnson
Let's not escape into mathematics. Let's stay with reality.
-- Michael Crichton
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 11:43:40
From: joseph.santaniello@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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On Jun 11, 4:29 am, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Jun 10, 3:30 pm, still me <wheeled...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:01:05 -0700, "* * Chas"
>
> > <verktygj...@aol.spamski.com> wrote:
> > >1. The Society for the Preservation of Anachronisms
>
> > >2. The Ancient and Honorable Order of E Clampus Vitus (ECV)
>
> > >3. The Flat Earth Society
>
> > >4. Because I like the way they feel. Panasonic Pasela TGs are the only
> > >clinchers that I've riden that come close to the bouncy, skippy feel of a
> > >sewup.
>
> > >Chas. Retro Grouch
>
> > 5. So the newbies can look and say "Don't' tell me those are tubular
> > tires? ? ?"
>
> Today, most cyclists don't even know what a tubular is, let alone know
> one when they see one. Goes double for the newbs.
A while ago out on a club ride we happened across a few guys stopped
on the side of the road dealing with a flat. From appearances, these
guys were not (yet) avid cyclists so we stopped and asked if they had
all they needed. They said they needed a tubular and wondered if
anyone had a spare they could borrow. I don't give up my spare to
strangers that easily, so I inspected closer with a mind to just tell
the guy to ride it home flat and take it easy. He said, "And it's
brand new too" as I noticed not only was it not glued, but it was a
clincher rim! Who sold him that tire? How did that happen? The guy was
good natured about it and shared in the humor about his total
cluelessness and I guess called his wife to come get him.
But with the popularity of deep section carbon aero rims I see more
and more folks using tubulars, but they think the whole mounting thing
is black magic and they leave it up to the "pros" at the LBS. There is
a happy middle ground there somewhere...
Joseph
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 13:21:35
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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On Jun 10, 10:41 pm, "* * Chas" <verktygj...@aol.spamski.com > wrote:
> "Michael Press" <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>
> news:rubrum-7D49F4.14413810062007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <gZ6dnaKaAZCXxfHbnZ2dnUVZ_hKdn...@comcast.com>,
> > "* * Chas" <verktygj...@aol.spamski.com> wrote:
>
> > > 4. Because I like the way they feel. Panasonic Pasela TGs are the only
> > > clinchers that I've riden that come close to the bouncy, skippy feel
> of a
> > > sewup.
>
> > Obviously you have not tried all. Have you ridden the
> > Avocet 622x25 or 622x23? This page on the Pasela TG
> > shows a somewhat clunky tire.
> > <URL:http://www.panaracer.com/eng/products/index_ur.html#c>
>
> > --
> > Michael Press
>
> The one pictured is a 700 x 37c or 26 x 1.5/1.75. The Pasela TG 700 x 25c
> & 28c tires have a much smoother tread.
The Panaracer site shows the 3 different Pasela tread patterns. The
622 ('700c') Paselas other than the 700x37 do have a much smoother
tread; the contact area is virtually a slick.
>
> I haven't tried too many modern clincher tires to compare these against.
> I've ridden some that I definitely didn't like. The other tires that I
> like are the Continental 700 x 23c Grand Prix tires, the older style not
> the 4000. They have a completely different feel - more firm.
>
Do you prefer the Pasela TGs to the plain Paselas?
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 10:20:04
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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"Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote in message
news:1181568095.675106.149210@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 10, 10:41 pm, "* * Chas" <verktygj...@aol.spamski.com> wrote:
> > "Michael Press" <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> >
> > news:rubrum-7D49F4.14413810062007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > In article
> > > <gZ6dnaKaAZCXxfHbnZ2dnUVZ_hKdn...@comcast.com>,
> > > "* * Chas" <verktygj...@aol.spamski.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > 4. Because I like the way they feel. Panasonic Pasela TGs are the
only
> > > > clinchers that I've riden that come close to the bouncy, skippy
feel
> > of a
> > > > sewup.
> >
> > > Obviously you have not tried all. Have you ridden the
> > > Avocet 622x25 or 622x23? This page on the Pasela TG
> > > shows a somewhat clunky tire.
> > > <URL:http://www.panaracer.com/eng/products/index_ur.html#c>
> >
> > > --
> > > Michael Press
> >
> > The one pictured is a 700 x 37c or 26 x 1.5/1.75. The Pasela TG 700 x
25c
> > & 28c tires have a much smoother tread.
>
> The Panaracer site shows the 3 different Pasela tread patterns. The
> 622 ('700c') Paselas other than the 700x37 do have a much smoother
> tread; the contact area is virtually a slick.
>
The 27" (630) still use the old fashioned hard center rib and I've read
complaints about that tread design - they ride "high crown" at full
pressure and have a tendency to throw you to one side or the other
according to reviewers.
The rubber compound in the center on the 700c Paselas other than the
700x37 is very soft and gives great grip. They have a harder compound on
the sides of the tread. The fine diamond thread pattern wears smooth
pretty fast. I don't expect to get more than ~2000-3000 miles out of them.
> >
> > I haven't tried too many modern clincher tires to compare these
against.
> > I've ridden some that I definitely didn't like. The other tires that I
> > like are the Continental 700 x 23c Grand Prix tires, the older style
not
> > the 4000. They have a completely different feel - more firm.
> >
>
> Do you prefer the Pasela TGs to the plain Paselas?
>
I have 1 set of the 26" x 1.5 plain Paselas and I bought a set of the
plain 27" Paselas for a friend. The tread area is definitely "softer" on
the plain ones.
I'd probably be riding the plain ones if it weren't for the amount of road
hazards I encounter on a normal ride. I can't really compare a 26" x 1.5
with a 700x25c or 28c but the 26" tires do have a soft ride, especially
compared to other 26" road tires.
BTW, the casings on the last set I bought say 115 PSI min. I'm only
running them at 90-95 PSI w/o any problems.
Chas.
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 13:15:40
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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On Jun 11, 7:50 am, Qui si parla Campagnolo <p...@vecchios.com > wrote:
> On Jun 10, 10:09 am, Ozark Bicycle
>
> <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 10, 10:53 am, still me <wheeled...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Anyone tried this?
>
> > >http://www.tirealert.com/
>
> > Tubular tire repair, only $16 (+ one way shipping and up. Just another
> > in the endless list of reasons not to use tubies in the age of high
> > performance clinchers.
>
> Or take your thread out and repair your tubular in about 15
> minutes...not brain surgery afterall.
Patching the tube? Been there, done that.....what a PIA. (I still have
a few Velox tubie repair kits in with the tire/tube/patch stuff.)
But the OP was discussing replacing, not patching, the tube.
IMO, when lightweight tubie rims (I used GEL front/GL rear) were
easily available *and* before clinchers got so darn good, tubies were
worth the candle. But not now. YMMV, enjoy.
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 05:50:04
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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On Jun 10, 10:09 am, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Jun 10, 10:53 am, still me <wheeled...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Anyone tried this?
>
> >http://www.tirealert.com/
>
> Tubular tire repair, only $16 (+ one way shipping and up. Just another
> in the endless list of reasons not to use tubies in the age of high
> performance clinchers.
Or take your thread out and repair your tubular in about 15
minutes...not brain surgery afterall.
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 10:38:26
From: Diablo Scott
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
> On Jun 10, 10:09 am, Ozark Bicycle
> <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 10, 10:53 am, still me <wheeled...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone tried this?
>>> http://www.tirealert.com/
>> Tubular tire repair, only $16 (+ one way shipping and up. Just another
>> in the endless list of reasons not to use tubies in the age of high
>> performance clinchers.
>
> Or take your thread out and repair your tubular in about 15
> minutes...not brain surgery afterall.
>
Why don't the tubular patch kits come with latex for reattaching the
base tape? I didn't see any at the hardware store, I found some in the
make-up department at the drug store (I guess they use it for fake
eyelashes and stuff, also Halloween costumes), but make-up latex is
expensive. I've read you can get it by the gallon at carpet stores but
I only want 50mL or so - it should come in a tube with the other stuff
in the box.
Patched a tube last weekend and ripped the tape getting it off and had
to glue another piece on top of the rip.
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 22:42:24
From:
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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Diablo Scott writes:
>>>> Anyone tried this?
http://www.tirealert.com/
>>> Tubular tire repair, only $16 (+ one way shipping and up. Just
>>> another in the endless list of reasons not to use tubies in the
>>> age of high performance clinchers.
>> Or take your thread out and repair your tubular in about 15
>> minutes...not brain surgery after all.
> Why don't the tubular patch kits come with latex for reattaching the
> base tape? I didn't see any at the hardware store, I found some in
> the make-up department at the drug store (I guess they use it for
> fake eyelashes and stuff, also Halloween costumes), but make-up
> latex is expensive. I've read you can get it by the gallon at
> carpet stores but I only want 50mL or so - it should come in a tube
> with the other stuff in the box.
Latex emulsion has an unpredictable shelf life and is mostly water.
It doesn't lend itself to be stored in a tube, being much like milk in
color and consistency. It takes more than 50ml for most jobs
including base tape re-attachment. I kept a box of half pint bottles
of latex (Jiffytex):
http://www.keystonbros.com/newstore/index.php?catid=3&catid2=21&catid3=&productid=15
in the days when we all rode tubulars and did all the patching on
Wednesday evenings at my place. That way there was an ample supply of
tough thread, boot material, patches cut from old tubes and base
tapes.
> Patched a tube last weekend and ripped the tape getting it off and
> had to glue another piece on top of the rip.
You could have just reattached the torn tape, it having no tensile
properties that come to play. It is mainly a chafing strip between
rim and tire casing. Its purpose is to prevent casing failure from
the constant movement between rim and tire, that which causes the
rolling losses shown in the RR graph.
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/rolling-resistance-tubular.html
Jobst Brandt
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 15:06:19
From: still me
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 05:50:04 -0700, Qui si parla Campagnolo
<peter@vecchios.com > wrote:
>
>Or take your thread out and repair your tubular in about 15
>minutes...not brain surgery afterall.
I do that too. Retubing for a multi-patched tire looked like an
interesting option... but not if the base tape isn't secure. Even my
repairs are secure when done.
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 10:37:56
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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"still me" <wheeledBob@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:d4pq6311ac3voc5ijh503dj2avehjsj0mk@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 05:50:04 -0700, Qui si parla Campagnolo
> <peter@vecchios.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Or take your thread out and repair your tubular in about 15
> >minutes...not brain surgery afterall.
>
> I do that too. Retubing for a multi-patched tire looked like an
> interesting option... but not if the base tape isn't secure. Even my
> repairs are secure when done.
>
I used to get a latex based cement in a tube. It was designed for
patching natural rubber waders, hip boots and kids toys.
I used it for reattaching the base tape applying internal boots and
external snake bite patches on the sidewalls. It had much better adhesion
than liquid latex.
I had a bunch of 25+ year old sewups. The tubes were gone but the base
tape that I glued down with this stuff still held strong.
Chas.
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 02:29:18
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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On Jun 10, 3:30 pm, still me <wheeled...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:01:05 -0700, "* * Chas"
>
> <verktygj...@aol.spamski.com> wrote:
> >1. The Society for the Preservation of Anachronisms
>
> >2. The Ancient and Honorable Order of E Clampus Vitus (ECV)
>
> >3. The Flat Earth Society
>
> >4. Because I like the way they feel. Panasonic Pasela TGs are the only
> >clinchers that I've riden that come close to the bouncy, skippy feel of a
> >sewup.
>
> >Chas. Retro Grouch
>
> 5. So the newbies can look and say "Don't' tell me those are tubular
> tires? ? ?"
Today, most cyclists don't even know what a tubular is, let alone know
one when they see one. Goes double for the newbs.
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 00:18:42
From: Mike Krueger
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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On Jun 10, 5:55 pm, still me <wheeled...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> >Know any low price suppliers for Conti Grifo's (or another Grifo with
> >butyl tubes) ?
>
> Whoops, typo, "Clement Grifo" ... or another
Clement no longer exists. Challenge took over the brand and the
manufacturing. Do a Google search for Challenge Grifo and you'll come
up with several dealers.
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 00:56:59
From: still me
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 00:18:42 -0000, Mike Krueger <skubanut@aol.com >
wrote:
>Clement no longer exists. Challenge took over the brand and the
>manufacturing. Do a Google search for Challenge Grifo and you'll come
>up with several dealers.
Thanks, I knew they went Asian like everyone else... but I didn't
realize there was a name change.
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Date: 10 Jun 2007 21:02:14
From: Mike Krueger
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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On Jun 10, 1:22 pm, "Carl Sundquist" <carl...@cox.net > wrote:
> "Mike Krueger" <skuba...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > Probiketkit.com has Vittorias as low as $15-$22 each, and the top-of-
> > the-line Corsa EVO CX at only $45. Continental Giros can commonly be
> > found for $25, and Sprinters for $35 with a little looking.
>
> It's not just Probikekit.com, Parker International also has great prices on
> tubulars. Why are they so much cheaper than in the States?
I was buying Vittoria CX's from Parker International just a few year
ago for around $23 each. Unfortunately, this supplier no longer ships
to North America. I don't know why.
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Date: 10 Jun 2007 16:45:21
From: Mike Krueger
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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On Jun 10, 11:53 am, still me <wheeled...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Anyone tried this?
>
> http://www.tirealert.com/
I have tried this sevice several times. My main complaint is that the
new base tape is not bonded to the tire casing as securely as an
original base tape, and over time will start to peel at the edges. If
you suffer another flat, the base tape will sometimes come away from
the casing and stuck to the rim when you remove the tire. This is a
PITA when you are chainging a tubular on the road, and is less than
confidence-inspiring in general.
Alternatives include buying new tubulars cheaper on the internet.
Probiketkit.com has Vittorias as low as $15-$22 each, and the top-of-
the-line Corsa EVO CX at only $45. Continental Giros can commonly be
found for $25, and Sprinters for $35 with a little looking.
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Date: 10 Jun 2007 12:53:55
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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"Mike Krueger" <skubanut@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1181493921.568019.257270@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 10, 11:53 am, still me <wheeled...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Anyone tried this?
> >
> > http://www.tirealert.com/
>
> I have tried this sevice several times. My main complaint is that the
> new base tape is not bonded to the tire casing as securely as an
> original base tape, and over time will start to peel at the edges. If
> you suffer another flat, the base tape will sometimes come away from
> the casing and stuck to the rim when you remove the tire. This is a
> PITA when you are chainging a tubular on the road, and is less than
> confidence-inspiring in general.
> Alternatives include buying new tubulars cheaper on the internet.
> Probiketkit.com has Vittorias as low as $15-$22 each, and the top-of-
> the-line Corsa EVO CX at only $45. Continental Giros can commonly be
> found for $25, and Sprinters for $35 with a little looking.
>
Yellow Jersey has some good prices also.
Chas.
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Date: 10 Jun 2007 18:22:02
From:
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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Mike Krueger writes:
>> Anyone tried this?
>> http://www.tirealert.com/
> I have tried this service several times. My main complaint is that
> the new base tape is not bonded to the tire casing as securely as an
> original base tape, and over time will start to peel at the
> edges. If you suffer another flat, the base tape will sometimes come
> away from the casing and stuck to the rim when you remove the
> tire. This is a PITA when you are changing a tubular on the road,
> and is less than confidence-inspiring in general.
> Alternatives include buying new tubulars cheaper on the internet.
> Probiketkit.com has Vittorias as low as $15-$22 each, and the
> top-of- the-line Corsa EVO CX at only $45. Continental Giros can
> commonly be found for $25, and Sprinters for $35 with a little
> looking.
I think these guys don't know how to use latex solution or how to
replace an inner tube of a tubular.
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/tubular-repair.html
Tube replacement is easier than fixing a cut that requires a boot
(which any cut longer than a couple of mm requires.
Jobst Brandt
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Date: 10 Jun 2007 12:22:11
From: Carl Sundquist
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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"Mike Krueger" <skubanut@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1181493921.568019.257270@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 10, 11:53 am, still me <wheeled...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Anyone tried this?
>>
>> http://www.tirealert.com/
>
> I have tried this sevice several times. My main complaint is that the
> new base tape is not bonded to the tire casing as securely as an
> original base tape, and over time will start to peel at the edges. If
> you suffer another flat, the base tape will sometimes come away from
> the casing and stuck to the rim when you remove the tire. This is a
> PITA when you are chainging a tubular on the road, and is less than
> confidence-inspiring in general.
> Alternatives include buying new tubulars cheaper on the internet.
> Probiketkit.com has Vittorias as low as $15-$22 each, and the top-of-
> the-line Corsa EVO CX at only $45. Continental Giros can commonly be
> found for $25, and Sprinters for $35 with a little looking.
It's not just Probikekit.com, Parker International also has great prices on
tubulars. Why are they so much cheaper than in the States?
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Date: 10 Jun 2007 21:45:34
From: still me
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:22:11 -0500, "Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox.net >
wrote:
>> Alternatives include buying new tubulars cheaper on the internet.
>> Probiketkit.com has Vittorias as low as $15-$22 each, and the top-of-
>> the-line Corsa EVO CX at only $45. Continental Giros can commonly be
>> found for $25, and Sprinters for $35 with a little looking.
>
>It's not just Probikekit.com, Parker International also has great prices on
>tubulars. Why are they so much cheaper than in the States?
The UK? Then I'd have to ride tyres instead of tires!
Know any low price suppliers for Conti Grifo's (or another Grifo with
butyl tubes) ?
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Date: 10 Jun 2007 21:55:20
From: still me
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:45:34 GMT, still me <wheeledBob@yahoo.com >
wrote:
>On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:22:11 -0500, "Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox.net>
>wrote:
>
>>> Alternatives include buying new tubulars cheaper on the internet.
>>> Probiketkit.com has Vittorias as low as $15-$22 each, and the top-of-
>>> the-line Corsa EVO CX at only $45. Continental Giros can commonly be
>>> found for $25, and Sprinters for $35 with a little looking.
>>
>>It's not just Probikekit.com, Parker International also has great prices on
>>tubulars. Why are they so much cheaper than in the States?
>
>The UK? Then I'd have to ride tyres instead of tires!
>
>Know any low price suppliers for Conti Grifo's (or another Grifo with
>butyl tubes) ?
>
Whoops, typo, "Clement Grifo" ... or another
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Date: 10 Jun 2007 16:49:19
From: Carl Sundquist
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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"still me" <wheeledBob@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:a3so63t5tdr6kkhlc5u0hd016239nasdkb@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:22:11 -0500, "Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>>> Alternatives include buying new tubulars cheaper on the internet.
>>> Probiketkit.com has Vittorias as low as $15-$22 each, and the top-of-
>>> the-line Corsa EVO CX at only $45. Continental Giros can commonly be
>>> found for $25, and Sprinters for $35 with a little looking.
>>
>>It's not just Probikekit.com, Parker International also has great prices
>>on
>>tubulars. Why are they so much cheaper than in the States?
>
> The UK? Then I'd have to ride tyres instead of tires!
>
A tubular and a tyre are not the same thing.
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Date: 10 Jun 2007 16:09:28
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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On Jun 10, 10:53 am, still me <wheeled...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Anyone tried this?
>
> http://www.tirealert.com/
Tubular tire repair, only $16 (+ one way shipping and up. Just another
in the endless list of reasons not to use tubies in the age of high
performance clinchers.
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Date: 10 Jun 2007 13:01:05
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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"Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote in message
news:1181491768.216161.245510@q66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 10, 10:53 am, still me <wheeled...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Anyone tried this?
> >
> > http://www.tirealert.com/
>
> Tubular tire repair, only $16 (+ one way shipping and up. Just another
> in the endless list of reasons not to use tubies in the age of high
> performance clinchers.
>
1. The Society for the Preservation of Anachronisms
2. The Ancient and Honorable Order of E Clampus Vitus (ECV)
3. The Flat Earth Society
4. Because I like the way they feel. Panasonic Pasela TGs are the only
clinchers that I've riden that come close to the bouncy, skippy feel of a
sewup.
Chas. Retro Grouch
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Date: 10 Jun 2007 14:41:38
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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In article
<gZ6dnaKaAZCXxfHbnZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d@comcast.com >,
"* * Chas" <verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com > wrote:
> 4. Because I like the way they feel. Panasonic Pasela TGs are the only
> clinchers that I've riden that come close to the bouncy, skippy feel of a
> sewup.
Obviously you have not tried all. Have you ridden the
Avocet 622x25 or 622x23? This page on the Pasela TG
shows a somewhat clunky tire.
<URL:http://www.panaracer.com/eng/products/index_ur.html#c >
--
Michael Press
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Date: 10 Jun 2007 20:41:21
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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"Michael Press" <rubrum@pacbell.net > wrote in message
news:rubrum-7D49F4.14413810062007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
> In article
> <gZ6dnaKaAZCXxfHbnZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "* * Chas" <verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com> wrote:
>
> > 4. Because I like the way they feel. Panasonic Pasela TGs are the only
> > clinchers that I've riden that come close to the bouncy, skippy feel
of a
> > sewup.
>
> Obviously you have not tried all. Have you ridden the
> Avocet 622x25 or 622x23? This page on the Pasela TG
> shows a somewhat clunky tire.
> <URL:http://www.panaracer.com/eng/products/index_ur.html#c>
>
> --
> Michael Press
The one pictured is a 700 x 37c or 26 x 1.5/1.75. The Pasela TG 700 x 25c
& 28c tires have a much smoother tread.
I haven't tried too many modern clincher tires to compare these against.
I've ridden some that I definitely didn't like. The other tires that I
like are the Continental 700 x 23c Grand Prix tires, the older style not
the 4000. They have a completely different feel - more firm.
Chas.
Chas.
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Date: 10 Jun 2007 20:30:49
From: still me
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:01:05 -0700, "* * Chas"
<verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com > wrote:
>1. The Society for the Preservation of Anachronisms
>
>2. The Ancient and Honorable Order of E Clampus Vitus (ECV)
>
>3. The Flat Earth Society
>
>4. Because I like the way they feel. Panasonic Pasela TGs are the only
>clinchers that I've riden that come close to the bouncy, skippy feel of a
>sewup.
>
>Chas. Retro Grouch
5. So the newbies can look and say "Don't' tell me those are tubular
tires? ? ?"
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Date: 10 Jun 2007 14:00:57
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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"still me" <wheeledBob@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:eqno6355skjmi463iamno5la1o7ol0drut@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:01:05 -0700, "* * Chas"
> <verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com> wrote:
>
> >1. The Society for the Preservation of Anachronisms
> >
> >2. The Ancient and Honorable Order of E Clampus Vitus (ECV)
> >
> >3. The Flat Earth Society
> >
> >4. Because I like the way they feel. Panasonic Pasela TGs are the only
> >clinchers that I've riden that come close to the bouncy, skippy feel of
a
> >sewup.
> >
> >Chas. Retro Grouch
>
> 5. So the newbies can look and say "Don't' tell me those are tubular
> tires? ? ?"
The newbies don't have a clue..... If you're not wearing pink lycra,
you're just a pedestrian. ;-)
On a retro ride last week, someone on a CF bike asked if we were all
wearing wool jerseys. I guess he could smell us coming.
Chas.
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Date: 10 Jun 2007 21:36:39
From: still me
Subject: Re: Retube those tubulars!
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 14:00:57 -0700, "* * Chas"
<verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com > wrote:
>The newbies don't have a clue..... If you're not wearing pink lycra,
>you're just a pedestrian. ;-)
I hear that. They won't even nod to us guys in shorts and a tee. But
sometimes I get stuck next to one at a traffic light for a minute or
two - and when he's done looking down at my bike like some bimmer
driver looking down at a Toyota, they make a comment about my tires
:-)
>On a retro ride last week, someone on a CF bike asked if we were all
>wearing wool jerseys. I guess he could smell us coming.
You mean like a deer with his nose in the breeze ?
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