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Date: 12 Oct 2007 16:10:52
From: !Jones
Subject: Revisiting Campy Euclid
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I see from the archives that this topic has been discussed before.
Oh, well... would a conductor refuse to play Mozart by that same
logic?
OK, Campy Euclid brakes: they seem pretty rare; however, they're nice
looking units.
1: Has anyone had personal experiance with these?
2: Do they take the "standard" (assume such a concept exists) mounts
that have come to be called "990 bosses"?
3: Let's see, Dia Tec makes the 990 U-brake, Tectro has one as does
Primo. Are there any others I should consider? I'm not in a rush...
I might wait for a Euclid to come up; eBay is my friend unless someone
happens to have one (or two) they'd sell.
Jones
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Date: 13 Oct 2007 00:02:26
From: Chalo
Subject: Re: Revisiting Campy Euclid
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!Jones wrote:
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> OK, Campy Euclid brakes: they seem pretty rare; however, they're nice
> looking units.
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> 1: Has anyone had personal experiance with these?
I put one on my wife's chopper, which has only just the one brake. It
works well, though I think the Shimano Deore XT U-brake might be a
little stronger. With all such brakes, the pivot-to-pad distance of
the individual frame probably outweighs all other single factors when
it comes to brake effectiveness.
Euclid brakes are gorgeous, and very well made to boot. Who knew
Campy would make a part for a real bike almost as nicely as their
parts for ballerina bikes? It's painted rather than polished, though,
and it was only every made in a version to be pulled by a straddle
cable. I don't know if the Campy pads were worth a damn when new, but
if so, they are not any more.
The knife-'n-fork arms make me think of Harley-Davidson connecting
rods.
> 2: Do they take the "standard" (assume such a concept exists) mounts
> that have come to be called "990 bosses"?
They use standard U-brake bosses, 990 bosses-- whatever you want to
call them. They are 9mm in diameter rather than the 8mm of cantilever
bosses.
Since these were handed down from MTBs to freestyle bikes, some of
them developed a feature that makes me like them better than the old
kind. Many of them are now linear-pull instead of pulled by a
straddle. Some of these brakes come with hardware kits that allow
both kinds of cable setups. In the freestyle world, the linear-pull
ones are front brakes to be actuated by a cable sprouting from the
inside of the fork steerer, and the straddle cable ones are rears,
whose cable housing terminates in single or double frame stops.
(Double cables are a fancy and effective touch for use with Gyros or
other detanglers. Odyssey calls this the "London Mod".)
> 3: Let's see, Dia Tec makes the 990 U-brake, Tectro has one as does
> Primo. Are there any others I should consider? I'm not in a rush...
The Odyssey Evolver is a well-liked and versatile one. Revenge
Industries makes the most gratuitiously overengineered one I've seen,
with fully CNCed construction and cartridge bearing pivots. It and
the Fly Bikes brake are the fanciest and most expensive ones around.
The Dia Tech Fiesta is a beautiful brake that would have won the
hearts of many an MTBer if it had been available back in days of
yore.
http://www.danscomp.com/products.php?cat=PARTS&show=Brakes
Tektro, for whatever reason, makes a bunch of different models of U-
brake, but the FX20 and FX30 are the ones to have, in my opinion.
Do not get a U-brake that requires a smooth post pad if you can help
it, e.g. Dia Compe 990. Adjuster slot arms for threaded pads are
soooo much easier and tidier. That's almost all of them these days.
> I might wait for a Euclid to come up; eBay is my friend unless someone
> happens to have one (or two) they'd sell.
Euclids are most excellent if the price is right; if you'll have to
spend $30 or more per brake, then get Dia Techs. They give the best
bang per buck if you're paying the going price.
Chalo
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Date: 14 Oct 2007 22:25:58
From: !Jones
Subject: I'm pleased as pie! (was: Revisiting Campy Euclid)
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On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:02:26 -0000, in rec.bicycles.tech Chalo
<chalo.colina@gmail.com > wrote:
>Euclids are most excellent if the price is right; if you'll have to
>spend $30 or more per brake, then get Dia Techs. They give the best
>bang per buck if you're paying the going price.
I just bought a Campy Euclid brake for about $30 on eBay! Now I have
to pay shipping from Europe, but... that's how it goes.
Jones
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Date: 13 Oct 2007 02:55:13
From: !Jones
Subject: Re: Revisiting Campy Euclid
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On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:02:26 -0000, in rec.bicycles.tech Chalo
<chalo.colina@gmail.com > wrote:
>The Dia Tech Fiesta is a beautiful brake that would have won the
>hearts of many an MTBer if it had been available back in days of
>yore.
Thanks for the info. That's a keeper, IMO. I'm building an old
Littlejohn Tandem and am touching the world of BMX for the first
time... and a strange one it is!!!
About all I lack is the brakes. I'm adapting an old Bemdix red-band
kick-down to the rear hub and it has a coaster brake, but I'd like a
tad bit more stopper for a tandem, thank ya very much. I've got a
90mm Sturmey Elite that I'm thinking about lacing to the front... when
I find the Euclid, I'll see if I get one or two, then I'll decide on
the hub.
Jones
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