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Date: 21 May 2007 21:54:26
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Subject: Roadside carnage
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Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
I came upon this gory scene next to the no-shoulder two-lane road on
my daily ride and took pictures from different angles.
The victim, a racer (red for speed) was not wearing a helmet.
According to authorities, the assailant (it was obviously no
accident)is a naturalized immigrant from Jamaica, who fled the scene.
The shadow in the last picture shows how close the camera was--yes,
those are ribs.
Click on the lower right to view full size in Explorer.
http://i3.tinypic.com/6hft9br.jpg
http://i14.tinypic.com/6g2lso8.jpg
http://i13.tinypic.com/61ju64l.jpg
http://i13.tinypic.com/6f5kbr9.jpg
http://i14.tinypic.com/4ub2qsi.jpg
http://i18.tinypic.com/62fvi3r.jpg
http://i17.tinypic.com/52nx1ef.jpg
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 23 May 2007 13:41:41
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
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<carlfogel@comcast.net > wrote in message
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> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
>
> I came upon this gory scene next to the no-shoulder two-lane road on
> my daily ride and took pictures from different angles.
>
> The victim, a racer (red for speed) was not wearing a helmet.
>
> According to authorities, the assailant (it was obviously no
> accident)is a naturalized immigrant from Jamaica, who fled the scene.
>
> The shadow in the last picture shows how close the camera was--yes,
> those are ribs.
>
> Click on the lower right to view full size in Explorer.
>
> http://i3.tinypic.com/6hft9br.jpg
>
> http://i14.tinypic.com/6g2lso8.jpg
>
> http://i13.tinypic.com/61ju64l.jpg
>
> http://i13.tinypic.com/6f5kbr9.jpg
>
> http://i14.tinypic.com/4ub2qsi.jpg
>
> http://i18.tinypic.com/62fvi3r.jpg
>
> http://i17.tinypic.com/52nx1ef.jpg
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Fogel
So which one is the immigrant from Jamaica" and I've never seen a pink
snake in the wild. What kind is it?
When I lived in NM the neighbor kids used to go 'falconing" with a red
tailed hawk. From time to time it would take a little prairie rattler. It
would hit the snake in a full dive and both critters would roll over for
about 3 feet.
If the snake was still alert after being hit the hawk would do a dance
with one wing stretched open in front of the snake. The snake would strike
at the feathers then all of a sudden the hawk would catch the snake by the
neck with a super fast foot, one bite to the head and it was lunch time
for the hawk.
Chas.
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Date: 23 May 2007 19:56:18
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Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
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On Wed, 23 May 2007 13:41:41 -0700, "* * Chas"
<verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com > wrote:
>
><carlfogel@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:7dp453lc7260f2f18b52047uuqlu9diasf@4ax.com...
>> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
>>
>> I came upon this gory scene next to the no-shoulder two-lane road on
>> my daily ride and took pictures from different angles.
>>
>> The victim, a racer (red for speed) was not wearing a helmet.
>>
>> According to authorities, the assailant (it was obviously no
>> accident)is a naturalized immigrant from Jamaica, who fled the scene.
>>
>> The shadow in the last picture shows how close the camera was--yes,
>> those are ribs.
>>
>> Click on the lower right to view full size in Explorer.
>>
>> http://i3.tinypic.com/6hft9br.jpg
>>
>> http://i14.tinypic.com/6g2lso8.jpg
>>
>> http://i13.tinypic.com/61ju64l.jpg
>>
>> http://i13.tinypic.com/6f5kbr9.jpg
>>
>> http://i14.tinypic.com/4ub2qsi.jpg
>>
>> http://i18.tinypic.com/62fvi3r.jpg
>>
>> http://i17.tinypic.com/52nx1ef.jpg
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Carl Fogel
>
>So which one is the immigrant from Jamaica" and I've never seen a pink
>snake in the wild. What kind is it?
>
>When I lived in NM the neighbor kids used to go 'falconing" with a red
>tailed hawk.
[snip]
Dear Chas,
A) Google your childhood bird's scientific name and its odd history.
Hawks along the front range of the Rockies can be maddeningly varied
in their plumage and difficult to identify in flight, but this one was
kind enough to pose, displaying the unbarred underside of its tail
feathers and near-spotless white leggings.
B) A racer, red.
In south-east Colorado, the normally black western coachwhip is a
beautiful dusty pink. Here's a relative of the deceased:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/6b8da54e7bac1b65
Cheers,
Carolus L.
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Date: 24 May 2007 18:45:20
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
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<carlfogel@comcast.net > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 23 May 2007 13:41:41 -0700, "* * Chas"
> <verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com> wrote:
>
> >
> ><carlfogel@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:7dp453lc7260f2f18b52047uuqlu9diasf@4ax.com...
> >> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
> >>
> >> I came upon this gory scene next to the no-shoulder two-lane road on
> >> my daily ride and took pictures from different angles.
> >>
> >> The victim, a racer (red for speed) was not wearing a helmet.
> >>
> >> According to authorities, the assailant (it was obviously no
> >> accident)is a naturalized immigrant from Jamaica, who fled the scene.
> >>
> >> The shadow in the last picture shows how close the camera was--yes,
> >> those are ribs.
> >>
> >> Click on the lower right to view full size in Explorer.
> >>
> >> http://i3.tinypic.com/6hft9br.jpg
> >>
> >> http://i14.tinypic.com/6g2lso8.jpg
> >>
> >> http://i13.tinypic.com/61ju64l.jpg
> >>
> >> http://i13.tinypic.com/6f5kbr9.jpg
> >>
> >> http://i14.tinypic.com/4ub2qsi.jpg
> >>
> >> http://i18.tinypic.com/62fvi3r.jpg
> >>
> >> http://i17.tinypic.com/52nx1ef.jpg
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Carl Fogel
> >
> >So which one is the immigrant from Jamaica" and I've never seen a pink
> >snake in the wild. What kind is it?
> >
> >When I lived in NM the neighbor kids used to go 'falconing" with a red
> >tailed hawk.
>
> [snip]
>
> Dear Chas,
>
> A) Google your childhood bird's scientific name and its odd history.
>
> Hawks along the front range of the Rockies can be maddeningly varied
> in their plumage and difficult to identify in flight, but this one was
> kind enough to pose, displaying the unbarred underside of its tail
> feathers and near-spotless white leggings.
>
> B) A racer, red.
>
> In south-east Colorado, the normally black western coachwhip is a
> beautiful dusty pink. Here's a relative of the deceased:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/6b8da54e7bac1b65
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carolus L.
The scientific name is Buteo jamaicensis but I couldn't find any link to
Jamaica.
Many years ago we were taking an early spring ride on NM Hwy 6 near Rio
Puerco. It was a warm day and the grass alongside the road was already
about a foot high. I was riding close to the edge of the road due to the
behavior of the local 4 wheeled varmints.
I ran over 2 prairie rattlers (Crotalus viridis) that were laying part way
out of the grass. They must have just come out of hibernation because I
found about 3 or 4 more on the road. I got off the bike and chased them
off of the road with my Silca pump (fully extended) so that they wouldn't
get run over by a car. NM prairie rattlers in that area only get about 20"
long and they are a dusty tan color. They keep the rodent population in
check.
Chas. Linus
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Date: 24 May 2007 20:09:12
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Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 18:45:20 -0700, "* * Chas"
<verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com > wrote:
>
><carlfogel@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:ruq953doot85idljdnc6fnqgvo7acke6uo@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 23 May 2007 13:41:41 -0700, "* * Chas"
>> <verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> ><carlfogel@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >news:7dp453lc7260f2f18b52047uuqlu9diasf@4ax.com...
>> >> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
>> >>
>> >> I came upon this gory scene next to the no-shoulder two-lane road on
>> >> my daily ride and took pictures from different angles.
>> >>
>> >> The victim, a racer (red for speed) was not wearing a helmet.
>> >>
>> >> According to authorities, the assailant (it was obviously no
>> >> accident)is a naturalized immigrant from Jamaica, who fled the scene.
>> >>
>> >> The shadow in the last picture shows how close the camera was--yes,
>> >> those are ribs.
>> >>
>> >> Click on the lower right to view full size in Explorer.
>> >>
>> >> http://i3.tinypic.com/6hft9br.jpg
>> >>
>> >> http://i14.tinypic.com/6g2lso8.jpg
>> >>
>> >> http://i13.tinypic.com/61ju64l.jpg
>> >>
>> >> http://i13.tinypic.com/6f5kbr9.jpg
>> >>
>> >> http://i14.tinypic.com/4ub2qsi.jpg
>> >>
>> >> http://i18.tinypic.com/62fvi3r.jpg
>> >>
>> >> http://i17.tinypic.com/52nx1ef.jpg
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Carl Fogel
>> >
>> >So which one is the immigrant from Jamaica" and I've never seen a pink
>> >snake in the wild. What kind is it?
>> >
>> >When I lived in NM the neighbor kids used to go 'falconing" with a red
>> >tailed hawk.
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> Dear Chas,
>>
>> A) Google your childhood bird's scientific name and its odd history.
>>
>> Hawks along the front range of the Rockies can be maddeningly varied
>> in their plumage and difficult to identify in flight, but this one was
>> kind enough to pose, displaying the unbarred underside of its tail
>> feathers and near-spotless white leggings.
>>
>> B) A racer, red.
>>
>> In south-east Colorado, the normally black western coachwhip is a
>> beautiful dusty pink. Here's a relative of the deceased:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/6b8da54e7bac1b65
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Carolus L.
>
>The scientific name is Buteo jamaicensis but I couldn't find any link to
>Jamaica.
[snip]
>Chas. Linus
Dear Chas,
The hawk was first described where people who described such things in
latin were thick on the ground. Here's a typical explanation:
"What is the scientific name?"
"Buteo jamaicensis Pronounced BEW-tee-oh jah-may-ih-SEN-sis"
"What does it mean?"
"'Jamaican hawk.' Buteo is Latin for 'falcon' or hawk. 'Jamaicensis'
is the Latinized version of Jamaica, an island in the West Indies. The
first specimens of red-tailed hawk to be classified came from
Jamaica."
http://home.sou.edu/~rible/wildlife/redtail.html
Later, naturalists reached the interior of the less hospitable lands
north of the Gulf of Mexico and discovered that Buteo j. was no more
limited to Jamaica than the Norway rat was limited to western
Scandinavia.
See Carl Hiaasen's "Strip Tease" for more Jamaican predators turning
up in the Rockies, dumping a geek drowned in a Florida bath tub into a
Montana trout river.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 25 May 2007 14:23:13
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
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In article
<ujgc535rk4rq5ta2rsroulhn5stpd92sln@4ax.com >,
carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> See Carl Hiaasen's "Strip Tease" for more Jamaican predators turning
> up in the Rockies, dumping a geek drowned in a Florida bath tub into a
> Montana trout river.
Perhaps his best book of many good ones.
"Skinny Dip" is very enjoyable.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 24 May 2007 23:56:24
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
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<carlfogel@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:ujgc535rk4rq5ta2rsroulhn5stpd92sln@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 18:45:20 -0700, "* * Chas"
> <verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com> wrote:
>
> >
> ><carlfogel@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:ruq953doot85idljdnc6fnqgvo7acke6uo@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 23 May 2007 13:41:41 -0700, "* * Chas"
> >> <verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> ><carlfogel@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:7dp453lc7260f2f18b52047uuqlu9diasf@4ax.com...
> >> >> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
> >> >>
> >> >> I came upon this gory scene next to the no-shoulder two-lane road
on
> >> >> my daily ride and took pictures from different angles.
> >> >>
> >> >> The victim, a racer (red for speed) was not wearing a helmet.
> >> >>
> >> >> According to authorities, the assailant (it was obviously no
> >> >> accident)is a naturalized immigrant from Jamaica, who fled the
scene.
> >> >>
> >> >> The shadow in the last picture shows how close the camera
was--yes,
> >> >> those are ribs.
> >> >>
> >> >> Click on the lower right to view full size in Explorer.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://i3.tinypic.com/6hft9br.jpg
> >> >>
> >> >> http://i14.tinypic.com/6g2lso8.jpg
> >> >>
> >> >> http://i13.tinypic.com/61ju64l.jpg
> >> >>
> >> >> http://i13.tinypic.com/6f5kbr9.jpg
> >> >>
> >> >> http://i14.tinypic.com/4ub2qsi.jpg
> >> >>
> >> >> http://i18.tinypic.com/62fvi3r.jpg
> >> >>
> >> >> http://i17.tinypic.com/52nx1ef.jpg
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >>
> >> >> Carl Fogel
> >> >
> >> >So which one is the immigrant from Jamaica" and I've never seen a
pink
> >> >snake in the wild. What kind is it?
> >> >
> >> >When I lived in NM the neighbor kids used to go 'falconing" with a
red
> >> >tailed hawk.
> >>
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >> Dear Chas,
> >>
> >> A) Google your childhood bird's scientific name and its odd history.
> >>
> >> Hawks along the front range of the Rockies can be maddeningly varied
> >> in their plumage and difficult to identify in flight, but this one
was
> >> kind enough to pose, displaying the unbarred underside of its tail
> >> feathers and near-spotless white leggings.
> >>
> >> B) A racer, red.
> >>
> >> In south-east Colorado, the normally black western coachwhip is a
> >> beautiful dusty pink. Here's a relative of the deceased:
> >>
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/6b8da54e7bac1b65
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Carolus L.
> >
> >The scientific name is Buteo jamaicensis but I couldn't find any link
to
> >Jamaica.
>
> [snip]
>
> >Chas. Linus
>
> Dear Chas,
>
> The hawk was first described where people who described such things in
> latin were thick on the ground. Here's a typical explanation:
>
> "What is the scientific name?"
>
> "Buteo jamaicensis Pronounced BEW-tee-oh jah-may-ih-SEN-sis"
>
> "What does it mean?"
>
> "'Jamaican hawk.' Buteo is Latin for 'falcon' or hawk. 'Jamaicensis'
> is the Latinized version of Jamaica, an island in the West Indies. The
> first specimens of red-tailed hawk to be classified came from
> Jamaica."
>
> http://home.sou.edu/~rible/wildlife/redtail.html
>
> Later, naturalists reached the interior of the less hospitable lands
> north of the Gulf of Mexico and discovered that Buteo j. was no more
> limited to Jamaica than the Norway rat was limited to western
> Scandinavia.
>
> See Carl Hiaasen's "Strip Tease" for more Jamaican predators turning
> up in the Rockies, dumping a geek drowned in a Florida bath tub into a
> Montana trout river.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Fogel
On a slightly different note, tumbleweed is not native to North America.
In the late 1800s immigrant farmers from the Ukraine settled in western
Canada.
Russian thistle - Salsola kali (tumbleweed) seeds were mixed in with the
flax seeds that they planted. In less than 100 years tumble weed spread
throughout North America. Have you ever been hit by a large tumbleweed
blowing across the road? It's enough to knock you off the bike.
Chas.
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Date: 25 May 2007 11:57:06
From:
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 23:56:24 -0700, "* * Chas"
<verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com > wrote:
[snip]
>Have you ever been hit by a large tumbleweed
>blowing across the road?
[snip]
Dear Chas,
http://i1.tinypic.com/2dir7t0.jpg
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 22 May 2007 15:51:56
From:
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
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On May 22, 9:34 am, catzz66 <catz...@threeletterservice.com > wrote:
> dvt wrote:
> > catzz66 wrote:
>
> >> carlfo...@comcast.net wrote:
>
> >>> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
>
> > Nice Photos, Carl!
>
> >> Where were these taken? Do you know?
>
> > Near Pueblo, CO. Your question is an invitation for a really long
> > answer. :)
>
> Heh. Looks like where I grew up, though, Land of Enchantment (NM).
Same thing at that longitude.
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Date: 22 May 2007 22:33:26
From: Jay Hill
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
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carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
Thanks for taking & posting them.
> The shadow in the last picture shows how close the camera was...
I'm surprised it let you get so close. How did it behave as you
approached?
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Date: 22 May 2007 17:55:42
From:
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
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On Tue, 22 May 2007 22:33:26 GMT, Jay Hill <jshill@earthlink.net >
wrote:
>carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
>> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
>
>Thanks for taking & posting them.
>
>> The shadow in the last picture shows how close the camera was...
>
>I'm surprised it let you get so close. How did it behave as you
>approached?
Dear Jay,
About like a hungry customer behaves after the waiter says, "Enjoy
your meal!" It noticed me, but didn't really care.
I pedalled past it on the far side of the road, dropped my bike, and
started taking pictures back down the slope and across the road.
Here's the first one, #952 in the sequence:
http://i18.tinypic.com/4uubf46.jpg
The hawk just kept ripping chunks off its dinner.
I sat down and used the handlebars as a rest for a few pictures--you
can see a pedal here in #958:
http://i13.tinypic.com/4zyodco.jpg
The hawk ignored me.
I turned my face away, sidled along the road to some thick wooden
barrier posts along the top of the dam, sat down, and took more
pictures across the road using a barrier as a post--#971 was taken
across the road from the hawk and from high enough that you can see
the shadow of a traffic sign on the road:
http://i18.tinypic.com/67iqpmw.jpg
Pretty soon I was looking directly across the road:
http://i16.tinypic.com/4xpei4h.jpg
The hawk kept eating.
Two cars came up the dam road, ignoring everything on both sides of
the road, a third went by downhill towing a boat, with its driver
glaring at me, and finally a fellow on a touring bike pedalled
downhill, completely oblivious to the hawk, but waving at me.
I walked downhill in a gentle arc, crossing the road, and took some
more pictures looking back uphill toward the bluffs that I pedal
toward every day. This is #981:
http://i18.tinypic.com/67dsoaq.jpg
The hawk just kept stuffing itself.
I walked slowly past the hawk in the grass on its side of the road and
took a few pictures. This is #984:
http://i14.tinypic.com/4mciwm0.jpg
The hawk looked up, but didn't mind.
A little past the hawk, I sat down, facing away, turned, and took a
few pictures looking up from about twenty feet away. This is the last,
#992, and shows how big the hawk's feet are:
http://i18.tinypic.com/66jacmp.jpg
The hawk finally had enough, either of the snake or my bad table
manners, and flew off. From #952 to #992 took just under nine minutes
for 41 pictures.
Here's an old picture of the sign and the wooden barrier at the same
spot:
http://i17.tinypic.com/4uymw00.jpg
The hawk would be to the right. The zoom foreshortens things
considerably--the truck is half a mile away, the trees a mile, and the
bluff top close to three miles.
The trick is to work with a hawk that's used to hunting along roads,
keep your face turned away while you move, walk in curves around your
quarry instead of toward it, pick a hawk that's awfully hungry--and
then get lucky.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 23 May 2007 13:53:27
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
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<carlfogel@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:63t653hm7ij9eirqtvnqtivg0bki8dutn9@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 22:33:26 GMT, Jay Hill <jshill@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> >carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> >> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
> >
> >Thanks for taking & posting them.
> >
> >> The shadow in the last picture shows how close the camera was...
> >
> >I'm surprised it let you get so close. How did it behave as you
> >approached?
>
> Dear Jay,
>
> About like a hungry customer behaves after the waiter says, "Enjoy
> your meal!" It noticed me, but didn't really care.
>
> I pedalled past it on the far side of the road, dropped my bike, and
> started taking pictures back down the slope and across the road.
>
> Here's the first one, #952 in the sequence:
>
> http://i18.tinypic.com/4uubf46.jpg
>
> The hawk just kept ripping chunks off its dinner.
>
> I sat down and used the handlebars as a rest for a few pictures--you
> can see a pedal here in #958:
>
> http://i13.tinypic.com/4zyodco.jpg
>
> The hawk ignored me.
>
> I turned my face away, sidled along the road to some thick wooden
> barrier posts along the top of the dam, sat down, and took more
> pictures across the road using a barrier as a post--#971 was taken
> across the road from the hawk and from high enough that you can see
> the shadow of a traffic sign on the road:
>
> http://i18.tinypic.com/67iqpmw.jpg
>
> Pretty soon I was looking directly across the road:
>
> http://i16.tinypic.com/4xpei4h.jpg
>
> The hawk kept eating.
>
> Two cars came up the dam road, ignoring everything on both sides of
> the road, a third went by downhill towing a boat, with its driver
> glaring at me, and finally a fellow on a touring bike pedalled
> downhill, completely oblivious to the hawk, but waving at me.
>
> I walked downhill in a gentle arc, crossing the road, and took some
> more pictures looking back uphill toward the bluffs that I pedal
> toward every day. This is #981:
>
> http://i18.tinypic.com/67dsoaq.jpg
>
> The hawk just kept stuffing itself.
>
> I walked slowly past the hawk in the grass on its side of the road and
> took a few pictures. This is #984:
>
> http://i14.tinypic.com/4mciwm0.jpg
>
> The hawk looked up, but didn't mind.
>
> A little past the hawk, I sat down, facing away, turned, and took a
> few pictures looking up from about twenty feet away. This is the last,
> #992, and shows how big the hawk's feet are:
>
> http://i18.tinypic.com/66jacmp.jpg
>
> The hawk finally had enough, either of the snake or my bad table
> manners, and flew off. From #952 to #992 took just under nine minutes
> for 41 pictures.
>
> Here's an old picture of the sign and the wooden barrier at the same
> spot:
>
> http://i17.tinypic.com/4uymw00.jpg
>
> The hawk would be to the right. The zoom foreshortens things
> considerably--the truck is half a mile away, the trees a mile, and the
> bluff top close to three miles.
>
> The trick is to work with a hawk that's used to hunting along roads,
> keep your face turned away while you move, walk in curves around your
> quarry instead of toward it, pick a hawk that's awfully hungry--and
> then get lucky.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Fogel
I have some doves that hang around my house. I went out to my car one day
and saw a small hawk or falcon in the middle of the street chowing down on
a bird it had just taken.
Passing cars had to drive around him. I was feeling a little sad because I
thought he had one of the doves. I slowly approached to about 5 feet away
and saw that he had a pigeon not a dove - Bon Appétit....
Chas.
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Date: 23 May 2007 14:12:57
From: G.T.
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
|
"* * Chas" <verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com > wrote in message
news:1e6dnSs_CdT3NMnbnZ2dnUVZ_t2tnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> I have some doves that hang around my house. I went out to my car one day
> and saw a small hawk or falcon in the middle of the street chowing down on
> a bird it had just taken.
>
> Passing cars had to drive around him. I was feeling a little sad because I
> thought he had one of the doves. I slowly approached to about 5 feet away
> and saw that he had a pigeon not a dove - Bon Appétit....
>
All the same Columbidae to me, you say tomato, I say tomato.
Greg
--
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Dethink to survive - Mclusky
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Date: 23 May 2007 16:09:08
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
|
"G.T." <getnews1@dslextreme.com > wrote in message
news:1359biqeo7f1lc3@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "* * Chas" <verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com> wrote in message
> news:1e6dnSs_CdT3NMnbnZ2dnUVZ_t2tnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >
> > I have some doves that hang around my house. I went out to my car one
day
> > and saw a small hawk or falcon in the middle of the street chowing
down on
> > a bird it had just taken.
> >
> > Passing cars had to drive around him. I was feeling a little sad
because I
> > thought he had one of the doves. I slowly approached to about 5 feet
away
> > and saw that he had a pigeon not a dove - Bon Appétit....
> >
>
> All the same Columbidae to me, you say tomato, I say tomato.
>
> Greg
> --
"Pigeons and doves are in the order Columbiformes and family Columbidae.
There are five subfamilies within Columbidae, 42 genera and 308 species.
They are easily recognizable and have a world-wide distribution (although
they are not found in Antarctica)."
NO winged rats in Antarctica!
In SF minced squab was a popular item on the menus at a lot of Asian
restaurants. Someone noticed a reduction in the number of pigeons in the
local city parks.....
Chas.
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Date: 22 May 2007 09:57:27
From: catzz66
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
|
carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
>
>
Where were these taken? Do you know?
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Date: 22 May 2007 14:10:50
From:
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
|
On Tue, 22 May 2007 09:57:27 -0500, catzz66
<catzz66@threeletterservice.com > wrote:
>carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
>> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
>
>Where were these taken? Do you know?
Dear C,
Why, yes, I do!
[I feel the hook, but I can't resist the troll . . .]
The juniper and cottonwood country, up the Arkansas river. Prairie
bluffs with mountain views up on top, cliffs and level shale terraces
with junipers running down gullies in the middle, and cottonwood river
scenery down below.
Specifically, I took the picture at the top of the south end of the
dam at Pueblo, Colorado, looking northeast across the Arkansas River
toward Baculite Mesa. The river and its trees are mostly hidden in the
picture, down in the valley.
More specifically, here's my daily ride, which starts and ends at the
tiny red tail on the right. The yellow arrow on the left shows the
spot where the snake met its end and the direction of the view:
http://i19.tinypic.com/4kynamo.jpg
Here's a photo of the same grisly scene looking south toward the
nearby bluffs.
http://i14.tinypic.com/664vnfq.jpg
Starting point for true map fiends:
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=2&S=14&Z=13&X=164&Y=1323&W=3
Go west one panel up the river. This is the view looking south up Rush
Creek, on the south side of the Arkansas under "Denver" on the
railroad line:
http://i5.tinypic.com/4ly75z9.jpg
The Greenhorn is the snowy mountain on the left, and the Snowslide is
the snow streak on the right, the main landmarks on the Wet Mountains.
Gratuitous pelican flying over reservoir, looking north from the south
bluffs:
http://i1.tinypic.com/4qoihb5.jpg
In the picture above, the very faint blue hill on the very left is
forty miles away, next to Colorado Springs, and climbs up to Pikes
Peak.
Here's a view of Pikes Peak across the dam, half a mile from snake
scene:
http://i6.tinypic.com/5xrawbr.jpg
Better view of Pikes Peak, looking across prairie bluff and across
Arkansas valley:
http://i19.tinypic.com/4xvo7qv.jpg
Ignoring distant mountains, here's a typical gully with three deer:
http://i13.tinypic.com/4ou6fkg.jpg
Same gully, lower down. The water is flowing toward the camera down
the shallow rock terraces and vanishing into the fractured shale creek
bed:
http://i12.tinypic.com/6b3gh03.jpg
River, bare cottonwoods, bluffs:
http://i13.tinypic.com/4tqtzyx.jpg
Other than that, it's pretty flat and featureless around here, except
for occasional antelope herds and hawks flying off the fence like
this:
http://i15.tinypic.com/5x3gs21.jpg
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 22 May 2007 15:32:00
From: catzz66
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
|
carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 09:57:27 -0500, catzz66
> <catzz66@threeletterservice.com> wrote:
>
>
>>carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>>Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
>>
>>Where were these taken? Do you know?
>
>
> Dear C,
>
> Why, yes, I do!
>
>
Believe it or not, mine was actually a serious question. Used to go
camping west of Antonito in the summers 20 or so years ago and the
terrain looked familiar. Thanks for the info.
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Date: 22 May 2007 12:07:21
From: dvt
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
|
catzz66 wrote:
> carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
>> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
Nice Photos, Carl!
> Where were these taken? Do you know?
Near Pueblo, CO. Your question is an invitation for a really long answer. :)
--
Dave
dvt at psu dot edu
Everyone confesses that exertion which brings out all the powers of body
and mind is the best thing for us; but most people do all they can to
get rid of it, and as a general rule nobody does much more than
circumstances drive them to do. -Harriet Beecher Stowe, abolitionist and
novelist (1811-1896)
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Date: 22 May 2007 11:34:30
From: catzz66
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
|
dvt wrote:
> catzz66 wrote:
>
>> carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
>
>
> Nice Photos, Carl!
>
>> Where were these taken? Do you know?
>
>
> Near Pueblo, CO. Your question is an invitation for a really long
> answer. :)
>
Heh. Looks like where I grew up, though, Land of Enchantment (NM).
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Date: 23 May 2007 13:45:33
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
|
"catzz66" <catzz66@threeletterservice.com > wrote in message
news:5bgkcmF2rn03vU1@mid.individual.net...
> dvt wrote:
> > catzz66 wrote:
> >
> >> carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> >>
> >>> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
> >
> >
> > Nice Photos, Carl!
> >
> >> Where were these taken? Do you know?
> >
> >
> > Near Pueblo, CO. Your question is an invitation for a really long
> > answer. :)
> >
>
> Heh. Looks like where I grew up, though, Land of Enchantment (NM).
NE NM is much prettier than SE CO, especially south and west of Raton.
Chas.
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Date: 22 May 2007 00:15:16
From: Marian
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
|
On May 22, 1:41 pm, carlfo...@comcast.net wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 05:01:53 GMT, Ted Bennett
>
>
>
>
>
> <tedbenn...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >In article <7dp453lc7260f2f18b52047uuqlu9di...@4ax.com>,
> > carlfo...@comcast.net wrote:
>
> >> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
>
> >> I came upon this gory scene next to the no-shoulder two-lane road on
> >> my daily ride and took pictures from different angles.
>
> >> The victim, a racer (red for speed) was not wearing a helmet.
>
> >> According to authorities, the assailant (it was obviously no
> >> accident)is a naturalized immigrant from Jamaica, who fled the scene.
>
> >> The shadow in the last picture shows how close the camera was--yes,
> >> those are ribs.
>
> >> Click on the lower right to view full size in Explorer.
>
> >>http://i3.tinypic.com/6hft9br.jpg
>
> >>http://i14.tinypic.com/6g2lso8.jpg
>
> >>http://i13.tinypic.com/61ju64l.jpg
>
> >>http://i13.tinypic.com/6f5kbr9.jpg
>
> >>http://i14.tinypic.com/4ub2qsi.jpg
>
> >>http://i18.tinypic.com/62fvi3r.jpg
>
> >>http://i17.tinypic.com/52nx1ef.jpg
>
> >> Cheers,
>
> >> Carl Fogel
>
> >Last time I watched an eagle kill and eat a snake was near the Rogue
> >River in a somewhat wild part of Oregon.
>
> >I'm going to begin carrying my camera with me more often, but I do wish
> >there was an easy way to combine bicycling and 8 x 10 format plates, not
> >to mention the bellows, sufficiently sturdy tripod, etc.
>
> Dear Ted,
>
> Here's an article whose title promises just what you want, "wheel"
> being the term back then for a bicycle:
>
> "Around the World with Wheel and Camera" by Frank G. Lenz
>
> Lenz's article begins with a picture showing how to combine bicycling
> and 8 x 10 format plates, not to mention the bellows, sufficiently
> sturdy tripod, etc.:
>
> http://www.aafla.org/SportsLibrary/Outing/Volume_21/outXXI03/outXXI03...
I'm not going to bother trying to read that until I figure out how to
set the background color to white and other new and interesting things
on this computer I have just found myself being able to use whenever I
want (and in an air conditioned office too... oh dear, my cycling may
suffer) but I did get a look at the cover photo and I'm curious ... it
appears that his saddle isn't actually attached to the frame by a
seatpost but rather by some sort of sproingy whoozawhatsis attaching
it to the contents of the rack??
-M
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Date: 22 May 2007 14:40:48
From:
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
|
On 22 May 2007 00:15:16 -0700, Marian <marian.rosenberg@gmail.com >
wrote:
>On May 22, 1:41 pm, carlfo...@comcast.net wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 May 2007 05:01:53 GMT, Ted Bennett
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <tedbenn...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >In article <7dp453lc7260f2f18b52047uuqlu9di...@4ax.com>,
>> > carlfo...@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>> >> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
>>
>> >> I came upon this gory scene next to the no-shoulder two-lane road on
>> >> my daily ride and took pictures from different angles.
>>
>> >> The victim, a racer (red for speed) was not wearing a helmet.
>>
>> >> According to authorities, the assailant (it was obviously no
>> >> accident)is a naturalized immigrant from Jamaica, who fled the scene.
>>
>> >> The shadow in the last picture shows how close the camera was--yes,
>> >> those are ribs.
>>
>> >> Click on the lower right to view full size in Explorer.
>>
>> >>http://i3.tinypic.com/6hft9br.jpg
>>
>> >>http://i14.tinypic.com/6g2lso8.jpg
>>
>> >>http://i13.tinypic.com/61ju64l.jpg
>>
>> >>http://i13.tinypic.com/6f5kbr9.jpg
>>
>> >>http://i14.tinypic.com/4ub2qsi.jpg
>>
>> >>http://i18.tinypic.com/62fvi3r.jpg
>>
>> >>http://i17.tinypic.com/52nx1ef.jpg
>>
>> >> Cheers,
>>
>> >> Carl Fogel
>>
>> >Last time I watched an eagle kill and eat a snake was near the Rogue
>> >River in a somewhat wild part of Oregon.
>>
>> >I'm going to begin carrying my camera with me more often, but I do wish
>> >there was an easy way to combine bicycling and 8 x 10 format plates, not
>> >to mention the bellows, sufficiently sturdy tripod, etc.
>>
>> Dear Ted,
>>
>> Here's an article whose title promises just what you want, "wheel"
>> being the term back then for a bicycle:
>>
>> "Around the World with Wheel and Camera" by Frank G. Lenz
>>
>> Lenz's article begins with a picture showing how to combine bicycling
>> and 8 x 10 format plates, not to mention the bellows, sufficiently
>> sturdy tripod, etc.:
>>
>> http://www.aafla.org/SportsLibrary/Outing/Volume_21/outXXI03/outXXI03...
>
>I'm not going to bother trying to read that until I figure out how to
>set the background color to white and other new and interesting things
>on this computer I have just found myself being able to use whenever I
>want (and in an air conditioned office too... oh dear, my cycling may
>suffer) but I did get a look at the cover photo and I'm curious ... it
>appears that his saddle isn't actually attached to the frame by a
>seatpost but rather by some sort of sproingy whoozawhatsis attaching
>it to the contents of the rack??
>
>-M
Dear Marian,
Odd spring-suspension seats were common back then because the roads
were so rough. (Keep reading and you'll come to a detailed picture.)
To get from New York to California, Lenz often rode on the railroad
tracks--not beside them, but over the wooden railroad ties.
Here's a picture of Lenz in India enlarged to show his front
suspension and elaborate spring-seat:
http://i10.tinypic.com/5ywikhu.jpg
The picture is very fuzzy, but it's about as good as you'll get from
that magazine--I took it from this installment of Lenz's tour:
http://www.aafla.org/SportsLibrary/Outing/Volume_26/outXXVI04/outXXVI04l.pdf
Here's the same model that Lenz rode, somewhat dilapidated:
http://www.nostalgic.net/bicycle385.htm
This picture shows the sproingy whoozawhatsis in all its glory:
http://www.nostalgic.net/pictures/1673.htm
Here's a similar seat on a hard-tire, no-front-suspension bike of the
same era:
http://www.metzbicyclemuseum.com/Bike20a.html
Here's another bike with a similar seat from the Smithsonian:
http://americanhistory.si.edu/ONTHEMOVE/collection/object_293.html
Note that the wheels are 31.25 inches rear and 30 inches front--the
larger-than-modern wheels rolled a little more easily over the bumps.
That's why the penny-farthing highwheelers were endurable--a 50-inch
wheel smooths out some of the road shock of a solid tire.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 22 May 2007 17:07:03
From: (PeteCresswell)
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
|
Per carlfogel@comcast.net:
>Odd spring-suspension seats were common back then because the roads
>were so rough. (Keep reading and you'll come to a detailed picture.)
>
>To get from New York to California, Lenz often rode on the railroad
>tracks--not beside them, but over the wooden railroad ties.
It's always wondered me that today, when bikes are mainly
playthings, sprung saddles seem tb the ultimate in un-cool.
OTOH back when bicycles were really used day-in and day-out it
seems like *everybody* rode on sprung saddles.
--
PeteCresswell
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Date: 22 May 2007 16:52:38
From:
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
|
On Tue, 22 May 2007 17:07:03 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid >
wrote:
>Per carlfogel@comcast.net:
>>Odd spring-suspension seats were common back then because the roads
>>were so rough. (Keep reading and you'll come to a detailed picture.)
>>
>>To get from New York to California, Lenz often rode on the railroad
>>tracks--not beside them, but over the wooden railroad ties.
>
>It's always wondered me that today, when bikes are mainly
>playthings, sprung saddles seem tb the ultimate in un-cool.
>
>OTOH back when bicycles were really used day-in and day-out it
>seems like *everybody* rode on sprung saddles.
Dear Pete,
From Berto's "Dancing Chain," here's my candidate for the undisputed
world champion of sprung saddles (and the first safety bike, too,
despite young nephew John Starley's reputation):
http://i7.tinypic.com/6b0p1xw.jpg
Only a tandem could offer more spring to a saddle.
Note that low-spoke-count wheels were cool back then.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 22 May 2007 14:11:57
From: G.T.
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
|
"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid > wrote in message
news:6pm6531gji67qd7e50rmv9lej0sgnu63ne@4ax.com...
> Per carlfogel@comcast.net:
>>Odd spring-suspension seats were common back then because the roads
>>were so rough. (Keep reading and you'll come to a detailed picture.)
>>
>>To get from New York to California, Lenz often rode on the railroad
>>tracks--not beside them, but over the wooden railroad ties.
>
> It's always wondered me that today, when bikes are mainly
> playthings, sprung saddles seem tb the ultimate in un-cool.
>
> OTOH back when bicycles were really used day-in and day-out it
> seems like *everybody* rode on sprung saddles.
The roads are generally smoother now. And there was only a relatively short
period of time when mtn bikes didn't have a suspension.
Greg
--
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Date: 22 May 2007 12:28:54
From: James Thomson
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
|
"Marian" <marian.rosenberg@gmail.com > a écrit:
> it appears that his saddle isn't actually attached to the frame by
> a seatpost but rather by some sort of sproingy whoozawhatsis
> attaching it to the contents of the rack??
I think the apparent attachment to the rear luggage is just a trick of
perspective. Lenz rode an Overman Victor Safety, as described in the account
of his departure from Pittsburg:
http://www.aafla.org/SportsLibrary/Outing/Volume_20/outXX05/outXX05a.pdf
There's a small picture of the 1891 model here:
http://www.ict.mic.ul.ie/websites/work/michelle_nichinneide/history.htm
Lenz's seatpost is obviously different from that one, but is similar in
general form to that of the Columbia Safety pictured below on the same page,
or in more detail here:
http://www.copakeauction.com/bicycles/2003-bicycles/035.jpg
You can see the Victor's sprung fork in more detail on this older model:
http://www.copakeauction.com/bicycles/2003-bicycles/040-2.jpg
James Thomson
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Date: 21 May 2007 22:22:01
From: G.T.
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
|
carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
>
>
> Click on the lower right to view full size in Explorer.
What am I supposed to click on?
>
> http://i3.tinypic.com/6hft9br.jpg
>
> http://i14.tinypic.com/6g2lso8.jpg
>
> http://i13.tinypic.com/61ju64l.jpg
>
> http://i13.tinypic.com/6f5kbr9.jpg
>
> http://i14.tinypic.com/4ub2qsi.jpg
>
> http://i18.tinypic.com/62fvi3r.jpg
>
> http://i17.tinypic.com/52nx1ef.jpg
>
Rad!
Greg
--
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http://www.ticketmastersucks.org/tracker.html
Dethink to survive - Mclusky
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Date: 21 May 2007 23:49:38
From:
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
|
On Mon, 21 May 2007 22:22:01 -0700, "G.T." <getnews1@dslextreme.com >
wrote:
>carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>
>> Click on the lower right to view full size in Explorer.
>
>What am I supposed to click on?
>
>>
>> http://i3.tinypic.com/6hft9br.jpg
>>
>> http://i14.tinypic.com/6g2lso8.jpg
>>
>> http://i13.tinypic.com/61ju64l.jpg
>>
>> http://i13.tinypic.com/6f5kbr9.jpg
>>
>> http://i14.tinypic.com/4ub2qsi.jpg
>>
>> http://i18.tinypic.com/62fvi3r.jpg
>>
>> http://i17.tinypic.com/52nx1ef.jpg
>>
>
>Rad!
>
>Greg
Dear Greg,
Er, Red!
Racer and -tail hawk, that is.
:)
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 22 May 2007 05:01:53
From: Ted Bennett
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
|
In article <7dp453lc7260f2f18b52047uuqlu9diasf@4ax.com >,
carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
>
> I came upon this gory scene next to the no-shoulder two-lane road on
> my daily ride and took pictures from different angles.
>
> The victim, a racer (red for speed) was not wearing a helmet.
>
> According to authorities, the assailant (it was obviously no
> accident)is a naturalized immigrant from Jamaica, who fled the scene.
>
> The shadow in the last picture shows how close the camera was--yes,
> those are ribs.
>
> Click on the lower right to view full size in Explorer.
>
> http://i3.tinypic.com/6hft9br.jpg
>
> http://i14.tinypic.com/6g2lso8.jpg
>
> http://i13.tinypic.com/61ju64l.jpg
>
> http://i13.tinypic.com/6f5kbr9.jpg
>
> http://i14.tinypic.com/4ub2qsi.jpg
>
> http://i18.tinypic.com/62fvi3r.jpg
>
> http://i17.tinypic.com/52nx1ef.jpg
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Fogel
Last time I watched an eagle kill and eat a snake was near the Rogue
River in a somewhat wild part of Oregon.
I'm going to begin carrying my camera with me more often, but I do wish
there was an easy way to combine bicycling and 8 x 10 format plates, not
to mention the bellows, sufficiently sturdy tripod, etc.
--
Ted Bennett
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Date: 26 May 2007 15:09:57
From: rosco
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
|
> Last time I watched an eagle kill and eat a snake was near the Rogue
> River in a somewhat wild part of Oregon.
>
> I'm going to begin carrying my camera with me more often, but I do wish
> there was an easy way to combine bicycling and 8 x 10 format plates, not
> to mention the bellows, sufficiently sturdy tripod, etc.
>
> --
> Ted Bennett
Haven't done 8x10, but easily have done 4x5 out of a BOB trailer. With
careful packing should be able to handle 8x10 as well. Used a bunch of
extra foam padding as I was a bit worried what all the bumps would do to all
the mechanical stuff that makes up LF gear.
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Date: 21 May 2007 23:41:35
From:
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
|
On Tue, 22 May 2007 05:01:53 GMT, Ted Bennett
<tedbennett@earthlink.net > wrote:
>In article <7dp453lc7260f2f18b52047uuqlu9diasf@4ax.com>,
> carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
>
>> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
>>
>> I came upon this gory scene next to the no-shoulder two-lane road on
>> my daily ride and took pictures from different angles.
>>
>> The victim, a racer (red for speed) was not wearing a helmet.
>>
>> According to authorities, the assailant (it was obviously no
>> accident)is a naturalized immigrant from Jamaica, who fled the scene.
>>
>> The shadow in the last picture shows how close the camera was--yes,
>> those are ribs.
>>
>> Click on the lower right to view full size in Explorer.
>>
>> http://i3.tinypic.com/6hft9br.jpg
>>
>> http://i14.tinypic.com/6g2lso8.jpg
>>
>> http://i13.tinypic.com/61ju64l.jpg
>>
>> http://i13.tinypic.com/6f5kbr9.jpg
>>
>> http://i14.tinypic.com/4ub2qsi.jpg
>>
>> http://i18.tinypic.com/62fvi3r.jpg
>>
>> http://i17.tinypic.com/52nx1ef.jpg
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Carl Fogel
>
>
>Last time I watched an eagle kill and eat a snake was near the Rogue
>River in a somewhat wild part of Oregon.
>
>I'm going to begin carrying my camera with me more often, but I do wish
>there was an easy way to combine bicycling and 8 x 10 format plates, not
>to mention the bellows, sufficiently sturdy tripod, etc.
Dear Ted,
Here's an article whose title promises just what you want, "wheel"
being the term back then for a bicycle:
"Around the World with Wheel and Camera" by Frank G. Lenz
Lenz's article begins with a picture showing how to combine bicycling
and 8 x 10 format plates, not to mention the bellows, sufficiently
sturdy tripod, etc.:
http://www.aafla.org/SportsLibrary/Outing/Volume_21/outXXI03/outXXI03j.pdf
"Outing" magazine 1892
For some reason, I feel sympathy for Lenz's closing comment in that
early installment in his adventures:
"The 'pneumatic' tires had been only once actually punctured since
leaving New York—-a distance of 2,628 miles—-and that happened in this
wise: The cactus plants begin to get rather thick in the Dakotas and
Montana bad lands to here. I had so much confidence in the 'pneumatic'
tires that I recklessly ran over several plants near this city,
thinking the needles were too brittle to puncture, but to my surprise
they were as stiff as steel, and both wheels became flat in ten
minutes. On examining the wheel the tire was full of needles, some
broken off short, others having penetrated the inner tube: I found it
necessary to carefully draw them all out before replacing with a new
inner tube. On repairing the tubes afterward it was very difficult
indeed to find the tiny holes made by these needles. I now ride very
cautiously where the cactus grows."
After Lenz crossed the Pacific, thieves in China added to his
miserable bicycling problems in freezing weather by stealing his
camera tripod, whose new-fangled light-weight wonder-material they
probably mistook for silver:
"The fifth day in the snow and ice I tried to hire other coolies, but
all were anxious to stay indoors, so I continued on due west alone. By
and by I neared a good-sized lake not on my map. The Chinese told me
to go back to get around it. Back I went through the mud and slush,
the matter freezing solid in my forks every half mile, compelling
me to chisel it out with my screw driver. I reached the road inn
again, and to my chagrin my aluminum tripod was missing. Some thief
had stolen it while I was eating lunch during the day, no doubt
mistaking it for silver."
"Outing" magazine, 1894
http://www.aafla.org/SportsLibrary/Outing/Volume_24/outXXIV02/outXXIV02k.pdf
Alas, Lenz was murdered in the Middle East before finishing his world
tour.
Concerning snakes and bicycles, I've been dying to stick the following
tid-bit in somewhere, and this is as good a place as any:
"'Colorado.'— Send your name and address to Allen S. Williams, Room D,
8th floor, 220 Broadway, N. Y. A society for herpetological study is
in contemplation, and you will obtain all the necessary information
from him. The second show is announced."
"Outing" magazine, 1899
http://www.aafla.org/SportsLibrary/Outing/Volume_35/outXXXV01/outXXXV01zg.pdf
[It's not from my email--it's one of those enigmatic "Answers to
Correspondents" beloved of turn-of-the-century magazine editors, who
delighted in leaving their other readers to wonder not only what the
hell "Colorado's" question was about snakes, but what the first and
second show were about.]
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 21 May 2007 22:24:03
From: G.T.
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
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Ted Bennett wrote:
> In article <7dp453lc7260f2f18b52047uuqlu9diasf@4ax.com>,
> carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
>
>> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
>>
>> I came upon this gory scene next to the no-shoulder two-lane road on
>> my daily ride and took pictures from different angles.
>>
>> The victim, a racer (red for speed) was not wearing a helmet.
>>
>> According to authorities, the assailant (it was obviously no
>> accident)is a naturalized immigrant from Jamaica, who fled the scene.
>>
>> The shadow in the last picture shows how close the camera was--yes,
>> those are ribs.
>>
>> Click on the lower right to view full size in Explorer.
>>
>> http://i3.tinypic.com/6hft9br.jpg
>>
>> http://i14.tinypic.com/6g2lso8.jpg
>>
>> http://i13.tinypic.com/61ju64l.jpg
>>
>> http://i13.tinypic.com/6f5kbr9.jpg
>>
>> http://i14.tinypic.com/4ub2qsi.jpg
>>
>> http://i18.tinypic.com/62fvi3r.jpg
>>
>> http://i17.tinypic.com/52nx1ef.jpg
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Carl Fogel
>
>
> Last time I watched an eagle kill and eat a snake was near the Rogue
> River in a somewhat wild part of Oregon.
>
> I'm going to begin carrying my camera with me more often, but I do wish
> there was an easy way to combine bicycling and 8 x 10 format plates, not
> to mention the bellows, sufficiently sturdy tripod, etc.
>
I once saw redtailed hawk fly over with a garter snake in it's talons
with a baby hawk flying wing.
Greg
--
The ticketbastard Tax Tracker:
http://www.ticketmastersucks.org/tracker.html
Dethink to survive - Mclusky
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Date: 23 May 2007 04:52:21
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
|
In article <1354vjkc4kf11ad@corp.supernews.com >,
"G.T." <getnews1@dslextreme.com > wrote:
> Ted Bennett wrote:
> > In article <7dp453lc7260f2f18b52047uuqlu9diasf@4ax.com>,
> > carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> >
> >> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
> >>
> >> I came upon this gory scene next to the no-shoulder two-lane road on
> >> my daily ride and took pictures from different angles.
> >>
> >> The victim, a racer (red for speed) was not wearing a helmet.
> >>
> >> According to authorities, the assailant (it was obviously no
> >> accident)is a naturalized immigrant from Jamaica, who fled the scene.
> >>
> >> The shadow in the last picture shows how close the camera was--yes,
> >> those are ribs.
> >>
> >> Click on the lower right to view full size in Explorer.
> >>
> >> http://i3.tinypic.com/6hft9br.jpg
> >>
> >> http://i14.tinypic.com/6g2lso8.jpg
> >>
> >> http://i13.tinypic.com/61ju64l.jpg
> >>
> >> http://i13.tinypic.com/6f5kbr9.jpg
> >>
> >> http://i14.tinypic.com/4ub2qsi.jpg
> >>
> >> http://i18.tinypic.com/62fvi3r.jpg
> >>
> >> http://i17.tinypic.com/52nx1ef.jpg
> >
> > Last time I watched an eagle kill and eat a snake was near the Rogue
> > River in a somewhat wild part of Oregon.
> >
> > I'm going to begin carrying my camera with me more often, but I do wish
> > there was an easy way to combine bicycling and 8 x 10 format plates, not
> > to mention the bellows, sufficiently sturdy tripod, etc.
>
> I once saw redtailed hawk fly over with a garter snake in it's talons
> with a baby hawk flying wing.
I live in an area with houses cheek-by-jowl. And yet we have an
occasional Cooper's hawk take station near our bird feeder.
They even catch the occasional sparrow and dine al fresco.
--
Michael Press
Heh! Heh! bird feeder, get it?
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Date: 22 May 2007 04:02:17
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
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<carlfogel@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:7dp453lc7260f2f18b52047uuqlu9diasf@4ax.com...
> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
>
> I came upon this gory scene next to the no-shoulder two-lane road on
> my daily ride and took pictures from different angles.
>
> The victim, a racer (red for speed) was not wearing a helmet.
So he would have been fine if only he was wearing a helmet?
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Date: 21 May 2007 22:52:16
From:
Subject: Re: Roadside carnage
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On Tue, 22 May 2007 04:02:17 GMT, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com >
wrote:
><carlfogel@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:7dp453lc7260f2f18b52047uuqlu9diasf@4ax.com...
>> Caution: increasingly gruesome pictures.
>>
>> I came upon this gory scene next to the no-shoulder two-lane road on
>> my daily ride and took pictures from different angles.
>>
>> The victim, a racer (red for speed) was not wearing a helmet.
>
>So he would have been fine if only he was wearing a helmet?
Dear Tom,
If this victim had been wearing a bicycling helmet, it seems likely
that no one would have even seen him, much less killed him.
:)
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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