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Date: 19 Jul 2007 15:48:26
From: Wayne Pein
Subject: Rubberband cut spare tube
It's been a long time since I've gotten a flat. I decided to examine my
tool kit today prior to a trip to the mountains just to make sure
everything was good and assess what I might need. I was happy (and a
little unhappy as well) to notice that the rubber band securing my
beautifully folded spare tube had cut/worn a hole in my spare. I carry
patches, but finding this hole potentially saved me a lot of hassle.

Wayne





 
Date: 22 Jul 2007 09:29:50
From:
Subject: Re: Rubberband cut spare tube
On Jul 22, 2:57 am, Dane Buson <d...@unseen.edu > wrote:
> doug.lan...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Jul 20, 12:48 am, "joseph.santanie...@gmail.com"
>
> >> I keep my tubes wrapped in a plastic sandwich bag and then a rubber
> >> band to avoid that problem. It also keeps them grit-free when riding
> >> in rain.
>
> > It's eve more complicated. I do the plastic bag thing too, but even
> > then, IME if the tube stays under the seat long enough that the rubber
> > band would have cut it, then the chaffing from the threads on the stem
> > and the knurled locknut will do the same thing. I cut a 2" piece of
> > tube and slide it over the stem and locknut in addition to the plastic
> > bag bit.
>
> I've been using a pen cap duct taped to the stem. I have my tubes and
> levers in a roll of cloth. Then I rubber band the bundle.
>
> --
> Dane Buson - sigd...@unixbigots.org
> "When the universe doesn't give a fuck, don't be mad:
> it's being as friendly as it ever gets"
> -Slovotsky's Law #16

what's the pen cap for ?



  
Date: 22 Jul 2007 12:38:29
From:
Subject: Re: Rubberband cut spare tube
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 09:29:50 -0700, raamman@gmail.com wrote:

>On Jul 22, 2:57 am, Dane Buson <d...@unseen.edu> wrote:
>> doug.lan...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Jul 20, 12:48 am, "joseph.santanie...@gmail.com"
>>
>> >> I keep my tubes wrapped in a plastic sandwich bag and then a rubber
>> >> band to avoid that problem. It also keeps them grit-free when riding
>> >> in rain.
>>
>> > It's eve more complicated. I do the plastic bag thing too, but even
>> > then, IME if the tube stays under the seat long enough that the rubber
>> > band would have cut it, then the chaffing from the threads on the stem
>> > and the knurled locknut will do the same thing. I cut a 2" piece of
>> > tube and slide it over the stem and locknut in addition to the plastic
>> > bag bit.
>>
>> I've been using a pen cap duct taped to the stem. I have my tubes and
>> levers in a roll of cloth. Then I rubber band the bundle.
>>
>> Dane Buson - sigd...@unixbigots.org
>>
>what's the pen cap for ?

Dear R,

The pen cap is probably to cover the exposed threads on the valve stem
and the knurled nut.

Things can get crowded in a bike bag, jiggle, and wear through. Other
posters in this thread have mentioned rubber bands wearing through
tubes. I've never suffered that fiasco, but I've had the metal threads
gnaw through a tube, so I pop a short piece of old inner tube over my
presta valve stem. (Smooth valve stems are another solution.)

Here's a patched Slime tube sitting on a baggie with a wide rubber
band and a short piece of old inner tube, with the loose black presta
cap almost hidden by an incompetent photographer:

http://i15.tinypic.com/6c4an0n.jpg

Here's the same tube, cap on, valve stem covered with short piece of
tube, everything coiled up and kept flat by the rubber band, nestled
in the baggie, ready to be loaded into the magazine:

http://i18.tinypic.com/4qfme6f.jpg

The cap is obviously necessary to stop the end of the presta valve
from puncturing things.

The short piece of inner tube (or a pen cap) protects the inner tube
from the threads and knurled nut if things get squashed.

The rubber band is wide and big enough to keep the tube coiled up
without squeezing it while a clumsy oaf drops his pump, the valve cap,
the baggie, or his gloves.

The baggie is nice and slippery, so it slips easily in and out of a
crowded frame bag, unlike the bare rubber tubes that I foolishly
wrestled with for years.

(Bare rubber has a high coefficient of friction and stubbornly resists
being stuffed in and out of small places--d'oh!)

The slight extra fuss of the rubber band and baggie are worthwhile
when you have four spare tubes stuffed into a pair of cardboard inner
tube boxes in a frame bag, particularly if you've just repaired flat
#29 for 2007, as I did yesterday. The rubber and plastic make getting
the tubes in and out of the bag much easier.

Evidence of how long it takes a dim-witted bicyclist who gets frequent
flat tires to realize that baggies are a good idea:

http://i17.tinypic.com/4kx287p.jpg

Six more flats, and I'll have cycled through my inner tube box since
it occurred to me to use a baggie. (There are seven more tubes in my
flock--two in the tires, four in the frame bag, and one whose patch is
curing at the work bench.)

Cheers,

Carl Fogel


  
Date: 22 Jul 2007 11:25:59
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: Rubberband cut spare tube
raamman@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 22, 2:57 am, Dane Buson <d...@unseen.edu> wrote:
>> doug.lan...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Jul 20, 12:48 am, "joseph.santanie...@gmail.com"
>>
>> >> I keep my tubes wrapped in a plastic sandwich bag and then a rubber
>> >> band to avoid that problem. It also keeps them grit-free when riding
>> >> in rain.
>>
>> > It's eve more complicated. I do the plastic bag thing too, but even
>> > then, IME if the tube stays under the seat long enough that the rubber
>> > band would have cut it, then the chaffing from the threads on the stem
>> > and the knurled locknut will do the same thing. I cut a 2" piece of
>> > tube and slide it over the stem and locknut in addition to the plastic
>> > bag bit.
>>
>> I've been using a pen cap duct taped to the stem. I have my tubes and
>> levers in a roll of cloth. Then I rubber band the bundle.
>
> what's the pen cap for ?

It goes over the stem of the tube like a sleeve, it keeps the stem
threads and end from abrading a hole in the tube. I don't get flats
very often, so a tube can sit in my bag getting jostled for a long time
before it's used.

--
Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org
You have only to mumble a few words in church to get married and a few
words in your sleep to get divorced.


 
Date: 20 Jul 2007 21:08:14
From:
Subject: Re: Rubberband cut spare tube
On Jul 20, 12:48 am, "joseph.santanie...@gmail.com"
<joseph.santanie...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jul 19, 9:48 pm, Wayne Pein <wp...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > It's been a long time since I've gotten a flat. I decided to examine my
> > tool kit today prior to a trip to the mountains just to make sure
> > everything was good and assess what I might need. I was happy (and a
> > little unhappy as well) to notice that the rubber band securing my
> > beautifully folded spare tube had cut/worn a hole in my spare. I carry
> > patches, but finding this hole potentially saved me a lot of hassle.
>
> > Wayne
>
> I keep my tubes wrapped in a plastic sandwich bag and then a rubber
> band to avoid that problem. It also keeps them grit-free when riding
> in rain.

It's eve more complicated. I do the plastic bag thing too, but even
then, IME if the tube stays under the seat long enough that the rubber
band would have cut it, then the chaffing from the threads on the stem
and the knurled locknut will do the same thing. I cut a 2" piece of
tube and slide it over the stem and locknut in addition to the plastic
bag bit.

D




  
Date: 21 Jul 2007 23:57:59
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: Rubberband cut spare tube
doug.landau@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 20, 12:48 am, "joseph.santanie...@gmail.com"
>>
>> I keep my tubes wrapped in a plastic sandwich bag and then a rubber
>> band to avoid that problem. It also keeps them grit-free when riding
>> in rain.
>
> It's eve more complicated. I do the plastic bag thing too, but even
> then, IME if the tube stays under the seat long enough that the rubber
> band would have cut it, then the chaffing from the threads on the stem
> and the knurled locknut will do the same thing. I cut a 2" piece of
> tube and slide it over the stem and locknut in addition to the plastic
> bag bit.

I've been using a pen cap duct taped to the stem. I have my tubes and
levers in a roll of cloth. Then I rubber band the bundle.

--
Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org
"When the universe doesn't give a fuck, don't be mad:
it's being as friendly as it ever gets"
-Slovotsky's Law #16


 
Date: 20 Jul 2007 12:10:32
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Rubberband cut spare tube
On Jul 20, 1:48 am, "joseph.santanie...@gmail.com"
<joseph.santanie...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jul 19, 9:48 pm, Wayne Pein <wp...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > It's been a long time since I've gotten a flat. I decided to examine my
> > tool kit today prior to a trip to the mountains just to make sure
> > everything was good and assess what I might need. I was happy (and a
> > little unhappy as well) to notice that the rubber band securing my
> > beautifully folded spare tube had cut/worn a hole in my spare. I carry
> > patches, but finding this hole potentially saved me a lot of hassle.
>
> > Wayne
>
> I keep my tubes wrapped in a plastic sandwich bag and then a rubber
> band to avoid that problem. It also keeps them grit-free when riding
> in rain. Recently I've had enough flats that the tubes haven't been
> subjected to a rubber band long enough anyway, but that's a different
> story.
>
> Tubulars can also suffer from this fate, but there it is usually the
> sidewall that gets worn through and a resulting blowout when the tire
> is used. For max retro points you need a folded tubular wrapped in a
> pink Gazzetta Dello Sport under your seat held they by a toe strap.
>
> Joseph

I wrap mine in a Vecchio's sock...



 
Date: 20 Jul 2007 07:48:47
From: joseph.santaniello@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Rubberband cut spare tube
On Jul 19, 9:48 pm, Wayne Pein <wp...@nc.rr.com > wrote:
> It's been a long time since I've gotten a flat. I decided to examine my
> tool kit today prior to a trip to the mountains just to make sure
> everything was good and assess what I might need. I was happy (and a
> little unhappy as well) to notice that the rubber band securing my
> beautifully folded spare tube had cut/worn a hole in my spare. I carry
> patches, but finding this hole potentially saved me a lot of hassle.
>
> Wayne

I keep my tubes wrapped in a plastic sandwich bag and then a rubber
band to avoid that problem. It also keeps them grit-free when riding
in rain. Recently I've had enough flats that the tubes haven't been
subjected to a rubber band long enough anyway, but that's a different
story.

Tubulars can also suffer from this fate, but there it is usually the
sidewall that gets worn through and a resulting blowout when the tire
is used. For max retro points you need a folded tubular wrapped in a
pink Gazzetta Dello Sport under your seat held they by a toe strap.

Joseph