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Date: 12 Nov 2007 19:31:38
From: damyth
Subject: Silly ergo bars
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Why is it virtually every new road bike these days is spec'ed with
unusable ergo handlebars (and has been for a long time)? Is this some
manufacturer conspiracy to make people buy yet another handlebar to
replace the useless OEM one?
You look at the pro peloton (in Europe) and an informal estimate based
on photographs is that the pros favor "classic" vs. ergo bend 4 to 1.
Is this strictly an "European" artifact, or is something else?
The real irony of all this is I see some low end bikes (Sora equipped
and the like) with OEM "classic" bends; not only that, Modolo, who
first popularized the ergo bend, their top-of-the-line bar is non-ergo.
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Date: 17 Nov 2007 07:30:32
From: richard
Subject: Re: Silly ergo bars
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For me, I actually like most of them. The big exception is Deda...
Those didn't put the brake lever any closer to my fingers. What's
worse, I found I needed another joint between my elbows and wrists.
My 3TTTs and Ritchey, I just relax and fall forward, and my palms settle
nicely onto the drop portion.
I don't miss my curved drops at all...
damyth wrote:
> Why is it virtually every new road bike these days is spec'ed with
> unusable ergo handlebars (and has been for a long time)? Is this some
> manufacturer conspiracy to make people buy yet another handlebar to
> replace the useless OEM one?
>
> You look at the pro peloton (in Europe) and an informal estimate based
> on photographs is that the pros favor "classic" vs. ergo bend 4 to 1.
> Is this strictly an "European" artifact, or is something else?
>
> The real irony of all this is I see some low end bikes (Sora equipped
> and the like) with OEM "classic" bends; not only that, Modolo, who
> first popularized the ergo bend, their top-of-the-line bar is non-ergo.
>
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Date: 13 Nov 2007 05:04:08
From:
Subject: Re: Silly ergo bars
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On Nov 12, 11:34 pm, "Sandy" <leur...@free.fr > wrote:
> Dans le message denews:1194924698.292873.167560@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.=
com,
> damyth <mdk.10.dam...@spamgourmet.com> a r=E9fl=E9chi, et puis a d=E9clar=
=E9 :
>
> > Why is it virtually every new road bike these days is spec'ed with
> > unusable ergo handlebars (and has been for a long time)? Is this some
> > manufacturer conspiracy to make people buy yet another handlebar to
> > replace the useless OEM one?
>
> > You look at the pro peloton (in Europe) and an informal estimate based
> > on photographs is that the pros favor "classic" vs. ergo bend 4 to 1.
> > Is this strictly an "European" artifact, or is something else?
>
> > The real irony of all this is I see some low end bikes (Sora equipped
> > and the like) with OEM "classic" bends; not only that, Modolo, who
> > first popularized the ergo bend, their top-of-the-line bar is
> > non-ergo.
>
> Another one. Ok you vented. Goooood !! Breathe.
> Next, follow the leader of the pack here, write a book, show them why
> nothing good has come to cycling since 120mm 6V drivetrains were abandone=
d=2E
> Co-author, if you need.
> And do note your disgust, in your next heave, that there is all this soft,
> tacky, fat bar tape on these malformed bars.
>
> Next patient !!
> --
> Sandy
>
> The above is guaranteed 100% free of sarcasm,
> denigration, snotty remarks, indifference, platitudes, fuming demands that
> "you do the math", conceited visions of a better world on wheels according
> to [insert NAME here].
sandy you are awesome! i love everything you writte
carlos
www.bikingthings.com
Get Faster, Enjoy Cycling, Get Fit, Live Better.
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Date: 13 Nov 2007 00:14:12
From: Paul Myron Hobson
Subject: Re: Silly ergo bars
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damyth wrote:
> Why is it virtually every new road bike these days is spec'ed with
> unusable ergo handlebars (and has been for a long time)? Is this some
> manufacturer conspiracy to make people buy yet another handlebar to
> replace the useless OEM one?
>
> You look at the pro peloton (in Europe) and an informal estimate based
> on photographs is that the pros favor "classic" vs. ergo bend 4 to 1.
> Is this strictly an "European" artifact, or is something else?
>
> The real irony of all this is I see some low end bikes (Sora equipped
> and the like) with OEM "classic" bends; not only that, Modolo, who
> first popularized the ergo bend, their top-of-the-line bar is non-ergo.
>
Nashbar link:
http://tinyurl.com/32h22v
Also, Nitto makes many classic drop bars for about 42 bucks. I very
much like the new Noodle bars now on my Trek 330.
\\paul
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Date: 13 Nov 2007 04:58:01
From: Kurd
Subject: Re: Silly ergo bars
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> Why is it virtually every new road bike these days is spec'ed with
> unusable ergo handlebars (and has been for a long time)?
Did you write this question in 1997 and have it JUST now show up on the
newsgroup?
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Date: 13 Nov 2007 05:11:55
From: Kurd
Subject: Re: Silly ergo bars
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"Kurd" <no@fing.way > wrote in message
news:t9a_i.22571$JD.17496@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...
> > Why is it virtually every new road bike these days is spec'ed with
> > unusable ergo handlebars (and has been for a long time)?
>
> Did you write this question in 1997 and have it JUST now show up on the
> newsgroup?
>
Unless.... maybe he is communicating to us through a time vortex and writing
to us today, from10 years ago. In which case I must tell warn him that
Seinfeld ends next year and the last episode isn't very good.
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Date: 17 Nov 2007 06:34:48
From: Mark Shroyer
Subject: Re: Silly ergo bars
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On 2007-11-13, Kurd <no@fing.way > wrote:
>> Did you write this question in 1997 and have it JUST now show up
>> on the newsgroup?
>
> Unless.... maybe he is communicating to us through a time vortex
> and writing to us today, from10 years ago. In which case I must
> tell warn him that Seinfeld ends next year and the last episode
> isn't very good.
Dude, come on... where's the spoiler alert on that one?
--
Mark Shroyer
http://markshroyer.com/
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Date: 12 Nov 2007 22:53:18
From: BobT
Subject: Re: Silly ergo bars
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"damyth" <mdk.10.damyth@spamgourmet.com > wrote in message
news:1194924698.292873.167560@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> Why is it virtually every new road bike these days is spec'ed with
> unusable ergo handlebars (and has been for a long time)? Is this some
> manufacturer conspiracy to make people buy yet another handlebar to
> replace the useless OEM one?
Simple, it is done just to piss you off.
BobT
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Date: 12 Nov 2007 23:34:44
From: Sandy
Subject: Re: Silly ergo bars
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Dans le message de
news:1194924698.292873.167560@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com,
damyth <mdk.10.damyth@spamgourmet.com > a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
> Why is it virtually every new road bike these days is spec'ed with
> unusable ergo handlebars (and has been for a long time)? Is this some
> manufacturer conspiracy to make people buy yet another handlebar to
> replace the useless OEM one?
>
> You look at the pro peloton (in Europe) and an informal estimate based
> on photographs is that the pros favor "classic" vs. ergo bend 4 to 1.
> Is this strictly an "European" artifact, or is something else?
>
> The real irony of all this is I see some low end bikes (Sora equipped
> and the like) with OEM "classic" bends; not only that, Modolo, who
> first popularized the ergo bend, their top-of-the-line bar is
> non-ergo.
Another one. Ok you vented. Goooood !! Breathe.
Next, follow the leader of the pack here, write a book, show them why
nothing good has come to cycling since 120mm 6V drivetrains were abandoned.
Co-author, if you need.
And do note your disgust, in your next heave, that there is all this soft,
tacky, fat bar tape on these malformed bars.
Next patient !!
--
Sandy
The above is guaranteed 100% free of sarcasm,
denigration, snotty remarks, indifference, platitudes, fuming demands that
"you do the math", conceited visions of a better world on wheels according
to [insert NAME here].
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