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Date: 18 Nov 2007 16:26:19
From: still just me
Subject: Simplex Multiplicator - does it help?
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I know SImplex used to recommend these for their bar ends. Did it make much difference? It looks like the amount of leverage gained would be minimal and offset by the increase in "play" introduced by having another mechanism in what would otherwise be a single cable. But, I've never used one. Anyone have experience with one first hand, maybe before and after? Thanks,
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Date: 18 Nov 2007 19:33:15
From: M-gineering
Subject: Re: Simplex Multiplicator - does it help?
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still just me wrote: > I know SImplex used to recommend these for their bar ends. Did it make > much difference? It looks like the amount of leverage gained would be > minimal and offset by the increase in "play" introduced by having > another mechanism in what would otherwise be a single cable. > > But, I've never used one. Anyone have experience with one first hand, > maybe before and after? Had one quite a while ago, left it out later, didn't seem to make any difference -- /Marten info(apestaartje)m-gineering(punt)nl
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Date: 18 Nov 2007 16:43:08
From: philcycles
Subject: Re: Simplex Multiplicator - does it help?
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Gary Jacobson wrote: > My understanding was that these things were primarily for tandems but used > on singles too when cables stretched more than they do today. > > I asked a similar question a while back as I have some NOS Simplex shifters, > etc. Seem to remember that Sheldon Brown referenced them in his website > somewhere too. > > Gary Jacobson > Rosendale, NY > > > M-gineering" <ikmotgeenspam@m-gineering.nl> wrote in message > news:fhq0g0$6vj$1@localhost.localdomain... > > still just me wrote: > >> I know SImplex used to recommend these for their bar ends. Did it make > >> much difference? It looks like the amount of leverage gained would be > >> minimal and offset by the increase in "play" introduced by having > >> another mechanism in what would otherwise be a single cable. But, I've > >> never used one. Anyone have experience with one first hand, > >> maybe before and after? > > > > Had one quite a while ago, left it out later, didn't seem to make any > > difference > > It's a demultiplicator. it's aim-so very French-was to decrease cable pull at the derailleur, thereby increasing "feel" at the lever, or so the ad I saw for it said. Nothing to do with streach or tandems or anything ratiional. I had one-even made a braze-on for it-with Simplex barends and it would pull a 7 speed freewheel just fine. I didn't notice any increased feel but then, I'm not French. I still have one floating around somewhere. Phil Brown..
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Date: 18 Nov 2007 19:23:29
From: Gary Jacobson
Subject: Re: Simplex Multiplicator - does it help?
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My understanding was that these things were primarily for tandems but used on singles too when cables stretched more than they do today. I asked a similar question a while back as I have some NOS Simplex shifters, etc. Seem to remember that Sheldon Brown referenced them in his website somewhere too. Gary Jacobson Rosendale, NY M-gineering" <ikmotgeenspam@m-gineering.nl > wrote in message news:fhq0g0$6vj$1@localhost.localdomain... > still just me wrote: >> I know SImplex used to recommend these for their bar ends. Did it make >> much difference? It looks like the amount of leverage gained would be >> minimal and offset by the increase in "play" introduced by having >> another mechanism in what would otherwise be a single cable. But, I've >> never used one. Anyone have experience with one first hand, >> maybe before and after? > > Had one quite a while ago, left it out later, didn't seem to make any > difference > > -- > /Marten > > info(apestaartje)m-gineering(punt)nl
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Date: 19 Nov 2007 03:21:19
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Simplex Multiplicator - does it help?
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> > M-gineering" <ikmotgeenspam@m-gineering.nl> wrote in message > news:fhq0g0$6vj$1@localhost.localdomain... > > still just me wrote: > >> I know SImplex used to recommend these for their bar ends. Did it make > >> much difference? It looks like the amount of leverage gained would be > >> minimal and offset by the increase in "play" introduced by having > >> another mechanism in what would otherwise be a single cable. But, I've > >> never used one. Anyone have experience with one first hand, > >> maybe before and after? > > > > Had one quite a while ago, left it out later, didn't seem to make any > > difference In article <4740d782$0$19773$4c368faf@roadrunner.com >, "Gary Jacobson" <gjacobson@hvc.rr.com > wrote: > My understanding was that these things were primarily for tandems but used > on singles too when cables stretched more than they do today. > > I asked a similar question a while back as I have some NOS Simplex shifters, > etc. Seem to remember that Sheldon Brown referenced them in his website > somewhere too. Do not top post. I fixed it for you. Cables do not stretch. -- Michael Press
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