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Date: 27 May 2007 17:27:37
From: still me
Subject: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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I guess the first question is "does anyone know of a source for these
vintage wingnuts".
Assuming the answer is likely "no" - does anyone know what the thread
on the skewer is? It's M5, but it's finer than 80 and it's not a 70 or
a 50. Might be a 60, but I can't find a local sample to try.
It does not match any other vintage skewer end nut that I've tried,
(and I have quite a selection :-)
Thanks,
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Date: 28 May 2007 19:52:23
From: Jay Beattie
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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On May 28, 5:08 pm, still me <wheeled...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On 28 May 2007 13:09:49 -0700, gill...@cs.ubc.ca (Donald Gillies)
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >This is usually not a problem, assuming you are creative. I know guys
> >who bought peugeot PX-10's on ebay, and sold the skewers so THE BIKE
> >WAS ESSENTIALLY FREE !! Just be creative (wheels, whole bikes) in
> >what you will purchase to obtain your skewers ...
>
> yeah... I confess to picking up mine on a more modern set of wheels
> that I didn't really want (and apparently neither did anyone else). I
> sold the wheels at a slight loss and kept the skewers, but the nut
> situation is tenuous!
Well, I guess I'll kick myself again. I gave a set to the Community
Cycling Center a couple of years ago -- along with a big box of other
stuff and some original PW hubs (or nearly -- I think they were '73).
I'm sure some mechanic is now retiring on my old Simplex QRs. I never
though of all my old parts as "collectible" -- unless speaking in
terms of dust. -- Jay Beattie.
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Date: 29 May 2007 00:55:22
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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"Jay Beattie" <jbeattie@lindsayhart.com > wrote in message
news:1180407143.333396.310670@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On May 28, 5:08 pm, still me <wheeled...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On 28 May 2007 13:09:49 -0700, gill...@cs.ubc.ca (Donald Gillies)
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >This is usually not a problem, assuming you are creative. I know
guys
> > >who bought peugeot PX-10's on ebay, and sold the skewers so THE BIKE
> > >WAS ESSENTIALLY FREE !! Just be creative (wheels, whole bikes) in
> > >what you will purchase to obtain your skewers ...
> >
> > yeah... I confess to picking up mine on a more modern set of wheels
> > that I didn't really want (and apparently neither did anyone else). I
> > sold the wheels at a slight loss and kept the skewers, but the nut
> > situation is tenuous!
>
> Well, I guess I'll kick myself again. I gave a set to the Community
> Cycling Center a couple of years ago -- along with a big box of other
> stuff and some original PW hubs (or nearly -- I think they were '73).
> I'm sure some mechanic is now retiring on my old Simplex QRs. I never
> though of all my old parts as "collectible" -- unless speaking in
> terms of dust. -- Jay Beattie.
>
When I ran a shop in the 1970s I threw away a lot of better "junk" than I
see being auctioned on eBay these days, especially old French components.
I have a like new set of Huret Jubilee derailleurs including the cable
guide plus a brand new extra set of levers. I've seen these derailleur
sets selling for $300-$400 USD. Cough, gag.....
Chas.
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Date: 29 May 2007 21:04:34
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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-snip 'old' -
* * Chas wrote:
> When I ran a shop in the 1970s I threw away a lot of better "junk"
than I
> see being auctioned on eBay these days, especially old French components.
>
> I have a like new set of Huret Jubilee derailleurs including the cable
> guide plus a brand new extra set of levers. I've seen these derailleur
> sets selling for $300-$400 USD. Cough, gag.....
You are low in your estimate:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/huret.html
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 30 May 2007 10:31:09
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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"A Muzi" <am@yellowjersey.org > wrote in message
news:135pmtuloq8k881@corp.supernews.com...
> -snip 'old' -
> * * Chas wrote:
> > When I ran a shop in the 1970s I threw away a lot of better "junk"
> than I
> > see being auctioned on eBay these days, especially old French
components.
> >
> > I have a like new set of Huret Jubilee derailleurs including the cable
> > guide plus a brand new extra set of levers. I've seen these derailleur
> > sets selling for $300-$400 USD. Cough, gag.....
>
> You are low in your estimate:
> http://www.yellowjersey.org/huret.html
>
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> www.yellowjersey.org
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
Raleigh used Huret Jubilee derailleurs on the 1973 Team Pro bikes, the
ones that their teams rode.
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/TI_RALEIGH_TEAM_PROS/photos/browse/309b
Chas.
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Date: 30 May 2007 19:12:12
From: still me
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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On Wed, 30 May 2007 10:31:09 -0700, "* * Chas"
<verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com > wrote:
>Raleigh used Huret Jubilee derailleurs on the 1973 Team Pro bikes, the
>ones that their teams rode.
>
>http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/TI_RALEIGH_TEAM_PROS/photos/browse/309b
>
>Chas.
They have my condolences!
FYI - link drops you at a login prompt.
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Date: 29 May 2007 21:06:57
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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"A Muzi" <am@yellowjersey.org > wrote in message
news:135pmtuloq8k881@corp.supernews.com...
> -snip 'old' -
> * * Chas wrote:
> > When I ran a shop in the 1970s I threw away a lot of better "junk"
> than I
> > see being auctioned on eBay these days, especially old French
components.
> >
> > I have a like new set of Huret Jubilee derailleurs including the cable
> > guide plus a brand new extra set of levers. I've seen these derailleur
> > sets selling for $300-$400 USD. Cough, gag.....
>
> You are low in your estimate:
> http://www.yellowjersey.org/huret.html
>
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> www.yellowjersey.org
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
I've never seen the Campy adapter before.
We sold a few sets of Jubilee derailleurs but we came by most of them as
take offs from new bikes.
In my brief lightness at any cost days (literally days) I built up a super
light time trial bike with Jubilee derailleurs, Hi-E wheels, Lyotard 460D
pedals and all of the other lightweight components from that era. The
front derailleur jammed and broke on the first ride.
Shortly afterwards I switched to weight appropriate components and never
looked back.
Chas.
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Date: 30 May 2007 13:50:07
From: Donald Gillies
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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"* * Chas" <verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com > writes:
>In my brief lightness at any cost days (literally days) I built up a super
>light time trial bike with Jubilee derailleurs, Hi-E wheels, Lyotard 460D
>pedals and all of the other lightweight components from that era. The
>front derailleur jammed and broke on the first ride.
Jubilees are THE ONLY 1970's part that is still being installed on
today's hi-tech light sub-10 lbs bikes. THAT's why it sells for so
much money - it's the ONLY vintage part still being specified on
state-of-the-art (in some sense) bikes ...
what irony!
- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA
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Date: 31 May 2007 01:25:32
From: still me
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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On 30 May 2007 13:50:07 -0700, gillies@cs.ubc.ca (Donald Gillies)
wrote:
>Jubilees are THE ONLY 1970's part that is still being installed on
>today's hi-tech light sub-10 lbs bikes. THAT's why it sells for so
>much money - it's the ONLY vintage part still being specified on
>state-of-the-art (in some sense) bikes ...
>
>what irony!
If your only goal is weight, then I suppose it makes sense.
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Date: 30 May 2007 22:39:03
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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"still me" <wheeledBob@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:tt8s53dlifn86ag3u5ght9djf8lnkpaeft@4ax.com...
> On 30 May 2007 13:50:07 -0700, gillies@cs.ubc.ca (Donald Gillies)
> wrote:
>
> >Jubilees are THE ONLY 1970's part that is still being installed on
> >today's hi-tech light sub-10 lbs bikes. THAT's why it sells for so
> >much money - it's the ONLY vintage part still being specified on
> >state-of-the-art (in some sense) bikes ...
> >
> >what irony!
>
> If your only goal is weight, then I suppose it makes sense.
>
>
Actually the Jubilee rear derailleurs friction shift freewheels up to 26
teeth pretty well. The Jubilee long arms are useless.
Chas.
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Date: 30 May 2007 06:18:22
From: Steve Gravrock
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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On 2007-05-30, * * Chas <verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com > wrote:
> In my brief lightness at any cost days (literally days) I built up a super
> light time trial bike with Jubilee derailleurs, Hi-E wheels, Lyotard 460D
> pedals and all of the other lightweight components from that era. The
> front derailleur jammed and broke on the first ride.
It looks like Huret still has a following in those circles:
<http://www.light-bikes.com/BikeGallery/ >
The two lightest road bikes are running Huret rear derailleurs. The
lightest looks like it could be a Jubilee.
The most impressive thing, to me at least, is the 11.22 lb hardtail
mountain bike. Clearly it's designed to be ridden by somebody who's
quite a bit lighter and crashes less than me. Either that, or it's meant
to hang on the wall where its lightness can be admired by visitors.
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Date: 30 May 2007 02:13:32
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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"Steve Gravrock" <usenet@sdg.users.panix.com > wrote in message
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> On 2007-05-30, * * Chas <verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com> wrote:
>
> > In my brief lightness at any cost days (literally days) I built up a
super
> > light time trial bike with Jubilee derailleurs, Hi-E wheels, Lyotard
460D
> > pedals and all of the other lightweight components from that era. The
> > front derailleur jammed and broke on the first ride.
>
> It looks like Huret still has a following in those circles:
>
> <http://www.light-bikes.com/BikeGallery/>
>
> The two lightest road bikes are running Huret rear derailleurs. The
> lightest looks like it could be a Jubilee.
>
> The most impressive thing, to me at least, is the 11.22 lb hardtail
> mountain bike. Clearly it's designed to be ridden by somebody who's
> quite a bit lighter and crashes less than me. Either that, or it's meant
> to hang on the wall where its lightness can be admired by visitors.
I only ever had to carry/drag one bike out of the woods. The problem was
me not the bike. I hit a soft spot and did an over the bars - dislocated a
shoulder so I couldn't ride it back.
The guys with those light MTBs must get lots of practice humpin' bikes
back out of the woods.
Chas.
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Date: 01 Jun 2007 04:54:57
From: Steve Gravrock
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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On 2007-05-30, * * Chas <verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com > wrote:
>
> "Steve Gravrock" <usenet@sdg.users.panix.com> wrote in message
>> <http://www.light-bikes.com/BikeGallery/>
> The guys with those light MTBs must get lots of practice humpin' bikes
> back out of the woods.
Conversely, some of the cheap and heavy stuff can be shockingly durable.
On hardtails in the 27-30lb range I've bent brake levers, broken pieces
off of shifters, gouged rear derailers, and whacked brakes hard enough
to knock the pads badly out of alignment. All of that either didn't
cause a problem, or could be fixed in the field.
The only thing I couldn't ride home from involved a cheap single-wall
rim and a tree stump.
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Date: 30 May 2007 19:13:58
From: still me
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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On Wed, 30 May 2007 02:13:32 -0700, "* * Chas"
<verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com > wrote:
>The guys with those light MTBs must get lots of practice humpin' bikes
>back out of the woods.
I once met a girl on a trail - she had no bike - so I humped my bike
out of the woods on my shoulder (narrow trail and I wanted to walk
beside her to chat).
My shoulder hurt for a week - but the girl was worth it :-)
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Date: 30 May 2007 00:01:26
From: still me
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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On Tue, 29 May 2007 00:55:22 -0700, "* * Chas"
<verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com > wrote:
> I've seen these derailleur
>sets selling for $300-$400 USD. Cough, gag.....
NIB, yeah.
The sad news is that they really are crappy shifting! I thought I
wanted one on my vintage Competition for purity - until I shifted it
and found how sloppy it was and how much cable it needed moved to to
shift.
One brief bit of filing later the Competition was sporting a Super LJ.
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Date: 29 May 2007 21:11:20
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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"still me" <wheeledBob@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:jhfp535hjan9c1374elav67kcgicvr0k0a@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 29 May 2007 00:55:22 -0700, "* * Chas"
> <verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com> wrote:
>
> > I've seen these derailleur
> >sets selling for $300-$400 USD. Cough, gag.....
>
>
> NIB, yeah.
>
> The sad news is that they really are crappy shifting! I thought I
> wanted one on my vintage Competition for purity - until I shifted it
> and found how sloppy it was and how much cable it needed moved to to
> shift.
>
> One brief bit of filing later the Competition was sporting a Super LJ.
I built up a super light time trial bike with Jubilee derailleurs about
1974. I jammed and broke the front derailleur on the first ride. The rear
derailleurs shifted corn cob freewheels OK if you used all of the correct
Huret components and were gentle with them.
Chas.
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Date: 29 May 2007 11:27:18
From: M-gineering
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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* * Chas wrote:
>
> I have a like new set of Huret Jubilee derailleurs including the cable
> guide plus a brand new extra set of levers. I've seen these derailleur
> sets selling for $300-$400 USD. Cough, gag.....
>
> Chas.
And I've heard of a wholesaler recently finding 10+ sets of NOS and
jumping on them for fun and throwing them away. Good of them to keep
the price up ;)
--
/Marten
info(apestaartje)m-gineering(punt)nl
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Date: 28 May 2007 09:56:02
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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"still me" <wheeledBob@yahoo.com > wrote in message
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> I guess the first question is "does anyone know of a source for these
> vintage wingnuts".
>
> Assuming the answer is likely "no" - does anyone know what the thread
> on the skewer is? It's M5, but it's finer than 80 and it's not a 70 or
> a 50. Might be a 60, but I can't find a local sample to try.
>
> It does not match any other vintage skewer end nut that I've tried,
> (and I have quite a selection :-)
>
> Thanks,
The French had at least 3 different thread "standards" before the adoption
of the ISO Metric Standard.
S. F. - Système Français used 50° angle threads
SI and Sellers used the more standard 60° angle threads
All of these standards used oddball thread pitch and diameter combinations
so as to protect French industry from other nations producing cheap
replacement parts much in the same way as British Whitworth, BA, and other
bastard spawn of the UK tried to accomplish.
You may be able to find a replacement on eBay but be prepared to pay
through the nose as the Japanese have taken a shine to classic French
components. Last week there was a pair of Simplex skewers with white
plastic covers that were up to $333 USD the last time I checked.
Chas.
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Date: 28 May 2007 13:09:49
From: Donald Gillies
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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"* * Chas" <verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com > writes:
>You may be able to find a replacement on eBay but be prepared to pay
>through the nose as the Japanese have taken a shine to classic French
>components. Last week there was a pair of Simplex skewers with white
>plastic covers that were up to $333 USD the last time I checked.
This is usually not a problem, assuming you are creative. I know guys
who bought peugeot PX-10's on ebay, and sold the skewers so THE BIKE
WAS ESSENTIALLY FREE !! Just be creative (wheels, whole bikes) in
what you will purchase to obtain your skewers ...
- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA
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Date: 28 May 2007 18:47:35
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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"Donald Gillies" <gillies@cs.ubc.ca > wrote in message
news:f3fcud$apn$1@cascade.cs.ubc.ca...
> "* * Chas" <verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com> writes:
>
> >You may be able to find a replacement on eBay but be prepared to pay
> >through the nose as the Japanese have taken a shine to classic French
> >components. Last week there was a pair of Simplex skewers with white
> >plastic covers that were up to $333 USD the last time I checked.
>
> This is usually not a problem, assuming you are creative. I know guys
> who bought peugeot PX-10's on ebay, and sold the skewers so THE BIKE
> WAS ESSENTIALLY FREE !! Just be creative (wheels, whole bikes) in
> what you will purchase to obtain your skewers ...
>
> - Don Gillies
> San Diego, CA
I was watching an old French frame on eBay all last week. The seller
parted it out but like a lot of other inexperienced sellers couldn't get
the Campy cranks off.
It sat all week for $25.00. I figured a set of French thread Campy cranks
were worth at least $25.00.
It looks to me like the auction got shilled because right at the end a
buyer with zero history who just signed up on 5-22-07 ran the price up to
$138.00.
Chas.
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Date: 29 May 2007 00:10:15
From: still me
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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One follow up question: Is it possible to remove the lever handles
from the rods on these? I have one a backup with bad threads (someone
else mis-threaded it) but the lever/rubber is in great shape. Any way
to detach the lever from the shaft?
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Date: 29 May 2007 20:46:09
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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still me wrote:
> One follow up question: Is it possible to remove the lever handles
> from the rods on these? I have one a backup with bad threads (someone
> else mis-threaded it) but the lever/rubber is in great shape. Any way
> to detach the lever from the shaft?
Not that I've ever accomplished. The end of the conical cover is pressed
over the cam after assembly. That's the last 2mm radius on the outside.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 30 May 2007 19:14:29
From: still me
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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On Tue, 29 May 2007 20:46:09 -0500, A Muzi <am@yellowjersey.org >
wrote:
>Not that I've ever accomplished. The end of the conical cover is pressed
>over the cam after assembly. That's the last 2mm radius on the outside.
>
Thanks.
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Date: 28 May 2007 18:40:11
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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"still me" <wheeledBob@yahoo.com > wrote in message
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> One follow up question: Is it possible to remove the lever handles
> from the rods on these? I have one a backup with bad threads (someone
> else mis-threaded it) but the lever/rubber is in great shape. Any way
> to detach the lever from the shaft?
Funny thing, back in the day when a bike came into the shop with Simplex
skewers, if they were damaged in any way we thew them away and replaced
them with a new Normandy/Atom QR for about $4-$5.
Chas.
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Date: 29 May 2007 00:08:22
From: still me
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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On 28 May 2007 13:09:49 -0700, gillies@cs.ubc.ca (Donald Gillies)
wrote:
>
>This is usually not a problem, assuming you are creative. I know guys
>who bought peugeot PX-10's on ebay, and sold the skewers so THE BIKE
>WAS ESSENTIALLY FREE !! Just be creative (wheels, whole bikes) in
>what you will purchase to obtain your skewers ...
yeah... I confess to picking up mine on a more modern set of wheels
that I didn't really want (and apparently neither did anyone else). I
sold the wheels at a slight loss and kept the skewers, but the nut
situation is tenuous!
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Date: 27 May 2007 18:11:53
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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still me wrote:
> I guess the first question is "does anyone know of a source for these
> vintage wingnuts".
>
> Assuming the answer is likely "no" - does anyone know what the thread
> on the skewer is? It's M5, but it's finer than 80 and it's not a 70 or
> a 50. Might be a 60, but I can't find a local sample to try.
>
> It does not match any other vintage skewer end nut that I've tried,
> (and I have quite a selection :-)
First off, they work fine with just the steel nut, without the
nylon/brass locknut and extra spring. Do lube the cam, it's a great design:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/aq.html
French metric skewers are m5 x 0.9 rather than 0.8 [*] so you can use a
later Atom/Maillard skewer nut if you want a 'modern' look on the other
side.
[*] a pitch of 0.8 is finer than 0.9; yours is more coarse, hold
directly against a modern skewer to compare, it's obvious.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 28 May 2007 02:31:07
From: still me
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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On Sun, 27 May 2007 18:11:53 -0500, A Muzi <am@yellowjersey.org >
wrote:
>still me wrote:
>> I guess the first question is "does anyone know of a source for these
>> vintage wingnuts".
>>
>> Assuming the answer is likely "no" - does anyone know what the thread
>> on the skewer is? It's M5, but it's finer than 80 and it's not a 70 or
>> a 50. Might be a 60, but I can't find a local sample to try.
>>
>> It does not match any other vintage skewer end nut that I've tried,
>> (and I have quite a selection :-)
>
>First off, they work fine with just the steel nut, without the
>nylon/brass locknut and extra spring. Do lube the cam, it's a great design:
>http://www.yellowjersey.org/aq.html
>
>French metric skewers are m5 x 0.9 rather than 0.8 [*] so you can use a
>later Atom/Maillard skewer nut if you want a 'modern' look on the other
>side.
>
>[*] a pitch of 0.8 is finer than 0.9; yours is more coarse, hold
>directly against a modern skewer to compare, it's obvious.
First, thanks. I was not sure if the double nut was necessary to
prevent it creeping. I realize it's not exactly a locknut.
Are you sure it's .9? It looks much finer to me than a .8. I tried a
selection of skewer nuts from the Atom/Maillard series including the
70's chrome type, the later plastic winged type, one from a set of
Maillard 700's, and a later Simplex type (large black winged one piece
nut). None of them matched, most appeared coarser... the later Simplex
was close but not a match.
Bob
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Date: 28 May 2007 14:10:48
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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>> still me wrote:
>>> I guess the first question is "does anyone know of a source for these
>>> vintage wingnuts".
>>> Assuming the answer is likely "no" - does anyone know what the thread
>>> on the skewer is? It's M5, but it's finer than 80 and it's not a 70 or
>>> a 50. Might be a 60, but I can't find a local sample to try.
>>> It does not match any other vintage skewer end nut that I've tried,
>>> (and I have quite a selection :-)
> A Muzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>> First off, they work fine with just the steel nut, without the
>> nylon/brass locknut and extra spring. Do lube the cam, it's a great design:
>> http://www.yellowjersey.org/aq.html
>> French metric skewers are m5 x 0.9 rather than 0.8 [*] so you can use a
>> later Atom/Maillard skewer nut if you want a 'modern' look on the other
>> side.
>> [*] a pitch of 0.8 is finer than 0.9; yours is more coarse, hold
>> directly against a modern skewer to compare, it's obvious.
still me wrote:
> First, thanks. I was not sure if the double nut was necessary to
> prevent it creeping. I realize it's not exactly a locknut.
> Are you sure it's .9? It looks much finer to me than a .8. I tried a
> selection of skewer nuts from the Atom/Maillard series including the
> 70's chrome type, the later plastic winged type, one from a set of
> Maillard 700's, and a later Simplex type (large black winged one piece
> nut). None of them matched, most appeared coarser... the later Simplex
> was close but not a match.
Oh, the amazing things one might learn by measuring! Thanks for the
impetus. I measured a Campagnolo-type Simplex skewer in my desk drawer
yesterday at 0.9, same as Atom-Maillard.
Today I just dragged out and cleaned up my bike with center lever
Simplex skewers which measure 0.75.
I can't recall any other thing that's m5 x 0.75 BTW.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 29 May 2007 00:06:37
From: still me
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 14:10:48 -0500, A Muzi <am@yellowjersey.org >
wrote:
>Oh, the amazing things one might learn by measuring! Thanks for the
>impetus. I measured a Campagnolo-type Simplex skewer in my desk drawer
>yesterday at 0.9, same as Atom-Maillard.
>
>Today I just dragged out and cleaned up my bike with center lever
>Simplex skewers which measure 0.75.
>
>I can't recall any other thing that's m5 x 0.75 BTW.
Thanks... that's why it was so close, yet so far!
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Date: 28 May 2007 08:27:24
From: M-gineering
Subject: Re: Simplex Skewer(vintage) thread is? Or wingnut source ?
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still me wrote:
> Are you sure it's .9? It looks much finer to me than a .8. I tried a
> selection of skewer nuts from the Atom/Maillard series including the
> 70's chrome type, the later plastic winged type, one from a set of
> Maillard 700's, and a later Simplex type (large black winged one piece
> nut). None of them matched, most appeared coarser... the later Simplex
> was close but not a match.
Sutherlands lists simplex old style as 5 x 0.75, new style as 0.80mm
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/Marten
info(apestaartje)m-gineering(punt)nl
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