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Date: 04 Oct 2007 13:57:46
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Subject: Skin cancer and bike riding
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Male age 49..... have a small basal cell carcinoma on
my leg to be roved in a few weeks. Light complexion.
But where this lesion is is on a part of the body that
I WOULD have thought didn't get much sun anyway!! It
wasn't own my back or arms or anything.
Given the info above I'm wondering what others do to
avoid sun exposure while on long bike tours? I never
worried abt it much but will now!! And ironically was
going to get back into touring soon, buy bike, etc.
BUT.... now I'm cognizant that I MUST avoid sun
exposure while cycling in noon sun.
I hate sunscreens.... so what other things do you guys
wear or use that allow one to be cool, not sweat tons,
and keep flesh form being exposed?
Advice on clothing and apparel and methods please?
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Date: 07 Oct 2007 23:14:46
From:
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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On Oct 4, 12:57 pm, m...@privacy.net wrote:
> Male age 49..... have a small basal cell carcinoma on
> my leg to be roved in a few weeks. Light complexion.
> But where this lesion is is on a part of the body that
> I WOULD have thought didn't get much sun anyway!! It
> wasn't own my back or arms or anything.
>
> Given the info above I'm wondering what others do to
> avoid sun exposure while on long bike tours? I never
> worried abt it much but will now!! And ironically was
> going to get back into touring soon, buy bike, etc.
>
> BUT.... now I'm cognizant that I MUST avoid sun
> exposure while cycling in noon sun.
>
> I hate sunscreens.... so what other things do you guys
> wear or use that allow one to be cool, not sweat tons,
> and keep flesh form being exposed?
>
> Advice on clothing and apparel and methods please?
Dear M,
http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/2007/10/08/?uc_full_date=&campid=0&
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 06 Oct 2007 18:39:07
From: NickP
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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For the upper body, you could try
http://www.groundeffect.co.nz/product-detail-ROC-SUM.htm. I wear these in
the Australian summer, which can be pretty damn hot...
Bandannas do a good job of protecting the back of the neck and, if you're
bald like me, keeping off the sun through the helmet slots.
<me@privacy.net > wrote in message
news:gldag3tob7k73doeb08pmhc9m5a5uv16ra@4ax.com...
> Male age 49..... have a small basal cell carcinoma on
> my leg to be roved in a few weeks. Light complexion.
> But where this lesion is is on a part of the body that
> I WOULD have thought didn't get much sun anyway!! It
> wasn't own my back or arms or anything.
>
> Given the info above I'm wondering what others do to
> avoid sun exposure while on long bike tours? I never
> worried abt it much but will now!! And ironically was
> going to get back into touring soon, buy bike, etc.
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Date: 06 Oct 2007 03:07:15
From: Tom \Johnny Sunset\ Sherman
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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me@privacy.net anonymously wrote:
> Male age 49..... have a small basal cell carcinoma on
> my leg to be roved in a few weeks. Light complexion.
> But where this lesion is is on a part of the body that
> I WOULD have thought didn't get much sun anyway!! It
> wasn't own my back or arms or anything.
>
> Given the info above I'm wondering what others do to
> avoid sun exposure while on long bike tours? I never
> worried abt it much but will now!! And ironically was
> going to get back into touring soon, buy bike, etc.
>
> BUT.... now I'm cognizant that I MUST avoid sun
> exposure while cycling in noon sun.
>
> I hate sunscreens.... so what other things do you guys
> wear or use that allow one to be cool, not sweat tons,
> and keep flesh form being exposed?
>
> Advice on clothing and apparel and methods please?
See <http://leitra.dk/ >.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
A Real Cyclist [TM] keeps at least one bicycle in the bedroom.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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Date: 05 Oct 2007 20:04:03
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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In article
<gldag3tob7k73doeb08pmhc9m5a5uv16ra@4ax.com >,
me@privacy.net wrote:
> Male age 49..... have a small basal cell carcinoma on
> my leg to be roved in a few weeks. Light complexion.
> But where this lesion is is on a part of the body that
> I WOULD have thought didn't get much sun anyway!! It
> wasn't own my back or arms or anything.
>
> Given the info above I'm wondering what others do to
> avoid sun exposure while on long bike tours? I never
> worried abt it much but will now!! And ironically was
> going to get back into touring soon, buy bike, etc.
>
> BUT.... now I'm cognizant that I MUST avoid sun
> exposure while cycling in noon sun.
>
> I hate sunscreens.... so what other things do you guys
> wear or use that allow one to be cool, not sweat tons,
> and keep flesh form being exposed?
>
> Advice on clothing and apparel and methods please?
Bib knickers, long socks,
long sleeve shirt with collar,
hat with brim, gloves.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 05 Oct 2007 09:59:22
From: Kirby
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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Thanks for the link to Boure SPF long sleeve jerseys e.g.
http://www.boure.com/8604.html
I live in the UK and have made a number of trips to southern
California (and have a family history of skin cancer) - but until
recently found it almost impossible to find lightweight long sleeve
bike jerseys. The manufacturers seem to assume that long sleeve
jerseys are only used in the winter - and thus make them from thicker
material. (is this a market opportunity?)
On a recent trip I used some long sleeve triathlon tops from Orca -
but although they are cool they lack pockets and a collar that you can
raise. I used a lightweight buff to protect my neck and a Pace
Headwear Coolmax Helmet Liners to protect my head -
http://www.pacesportswear.com/Cyber.asp?Sid=1&Lid=1004&Mode=ViewProd&Cat=3
The only problem I had was with a triangular area of skin on the back
of my wrists that was exposed through my gloves - I forgot to put
sunscreen on this area and got badly burnt.
On my legs I used Aloe Gator's SPF 40+ sunblock gel - which is
sufficiently sticky to stay in place for a day long ride.
Regards Kirby
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 14:14:34
From:
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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>On my legs I used Aloe Gator's SPF 40+ sunblock gel - which is
>sufficiently sticky to stay in place for a day long ride.
This may be what I have to do... wear shorts on legs an
use sunscreen as per above.... but wear long sleeve
cycling jersey for arms, etc
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Date: 05 Oct 2007 03:14:17
From: POHB
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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On 5 Oct, 04:44, <j...@phred.org > wrote:
> Move to the Seattle area, so you don't have to worry about sun exposure
Live in the UK, ditto
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Date: 05 Oct 2007 13:51:02
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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> On 5 Oct, 04:44, <j...@phred.org> wrote:
>> Move to the Seattle area, so you don't have to worry about sun exposure
POHB wrote:
> Live in the UK, ditto
Norman Kilgareff says a typical email asks "What's the weather like?"
His standard reply, "It's raining. It's always f***ing raining in Scotland"
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 05 Oct 2007 14:37:46
From: catzz66
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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> POHB wrote:
>
>> Live in the UK, ditto
>
>
One would think that UK residents have a fairly low incidence of skin
cancer compared to the southwest US, but no doubt it still occurs.
I did a Yahoo search for "incidence of skin cancer in UK" and found some
interesting reading.
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Date: 04 Oct 2007 20:44:25
From:
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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Move to the Seattle area, so you don't have to worry about sun exposure
;-)
--
josh@phred.org is Joshua Putnam
<http://www.phred.org/~josh/ >
Braze your own bicycle frames. See
<http://www.phred.org/~josh/build/build.html >
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Date: 04 Oct 2007 21:35:21
From: Bruce Gilbert
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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Four years ago I had a big ugly melanoma removed from my upper arm. I always
had a mole. but over time it just grew. It is on the part of the arm that is
always covered by the jersey sleeve. I never ride with a vest style jersey,
only sleeves, whether short or long.
I learned a bit about sunscreens from the dermatologist. After trying a few,
I settled on the Coppertone grease free, SPF 45. The thing I like is that it
is not gummy and has virtually no scent. Down here in Houston. it gets kind
of warm in the summer and the sun is strong. This stuff seems to last a good
while, or at least long enough to get in a 60 mile ride.
Recently Coppertone changed the packaging to use a metal can that is some
sort of aerosol. I think the product is the same. In any case, look for the
one with the magenta label. Now they call it Coppertone oil free lotion
spray, SPF 50. I have not tried the new stuff as I still have a few units of
the old product around. Some of my friends bought the new one and seem to
think it works the same. As if by the magic of modern manufacturing, the
quantity went down and the price went up.
From what I understand, the Parsol 1789, also known as Avobenzone, bonds
with the protein in the skin to form the block for the range of light that
causes the problems. Maybe someone in the group can provide a better
explanation for me...
Bruce
<me@privacy.net > wrote in message
news:gldag3tob7k73doeb08pmhc9m5a5uv16ra@4ax.com...
> Male age 49..... have a small basal cell carcinoma on
> my leg to be roved in a few weeks. Light complexion.
> But where this lesion is is on a part of the body that
> I WOULD have thought didn't get much sun anyway!! It
> wasn't own my back or arms or anything.
>
> Given the info above I'm wondering what others do to
> avoid sun exposure while on long bike tours? I never
> worried abt it much but will now!! And ironically was
> going to get back into touring soon, buy bike, etc.
>
> BUT.... now I'm cognizant that I MUST avoid sun
> exposure while cycling in noon sun.
>
> I hate sunscreens.... so what other things do you guys
> wear or use that allow one to be cool, not sweat tons,
> and keep flesh form being exposed?
>
> Advice on clothing and apparel and methods please?
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Date: 05 Oct 2007 10:56:18
From:
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:35:21 -0500, "Bruce Gilbert" <bgilbertREMOVE@hal-pc.org >
wrote:
>Four years ago I had a big ugly melanoma removed from my upper arm. I always
>had a mole. but over time it just grew. It is on the part of the arm that is
>always covered by the jersey sleeve. I never ride with a vest style jersey,
>only sleeves, whether short or long.
>
>I learned a bit about sunscreens from the dermatologist. After trying a few,
>I settled on the Coppertone grease free, SPF 45. The thing I like is that it
>is not gummy and has virtually no scent. Down here in Houston. it gets kind
>of warm in the summer and the sun is strong. This stuff seems to last a good
>while, or at least long enough to get in a 60 mile ride.
Same stuff I use. Mostly I just don't ride out in the open in the summer. I'm
acclimated to the heat here in Florida, but the sun here will rip a white man's
skin off. I recommend mountain bike riding on wooded trails in the summer.
The Coppertone greaseless is good stuff.
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Date: 05 Oct 2007 11:59:09
From: Ron Hardin
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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I ignore the whole thing. There's a million things to die from, and
the odds in any case are way in your favor wrt any particular hazard.
Then they're finding now that sunlight prevents other forms of cancer.
No kidding. Changing things changes things.
--
rhhardin@mindspring.com
On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.
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Date: 05 Oct 2007 11:59:47
From: catzz66
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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Ron Hardin wrote:
> I ignore the whole thing. There's a million things to die from, and
> the odds in any case are way in your favor wrt any particular hazard.
>
> Then they're finding now that sunlight prevents other forms of cancer.
>
> No kidding. Changing things changes things.
Hope you never run into melanoma. It is one serious cancer.
Sunscreen makes me a little hotter but I need a shower after I ride
anyway, so it is not a big drawback. I have experimented with
longsleeve shirts, but it is just too hot here in the summer.
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Date: 05 Oct 2007 00:02:50
From: Tim McNamara
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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A friend and fellow randonneur used the Boure SPF whatever long sleeve
jerseys this year and liked them much better than sunscreen. I haven't
tried that sort of thing. UV rays do make it through typical bike
jerseys, though.
My problem with sunscreen is that they all seem to interfere with
cooling. My sweat just beads up and drips off rather than evaporating.
Maybe that's not a problem in dry climes, but in the swampy air that
blankets Minnesota all summer long it sucks. I had a bit of heatstroke
on one ride this summer and I think (but don't really know) that sun
screen was a contributor. Aging is probably a factor too- 95F didn't
used to bother me at all except at night when trying to sleep.
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Date: 05 Oct 2007 14:11:15
From: Matt O'Toole
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:02:50 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote:
> A friend and fellow randonneur used the Boure SPF whatever long sleeve
> jerseys this year and liked them much better than sunscreen. I haven't
> tried that sort of thing. UV rays do make it through typical bike
> jerseys, though.
I have an old Bellwether long sleeve lightweight Coolmax jersey, which has
the widest comfort range of any cycling garment I've owned. It's fine for
temps in the 50s (with a windbreaker) to nearly 80F. It does a pretty
good job keeping the sun off without being too hot. It's also handy
against poison oak while mountain biking. It's very old and faded now,
with a couple of holes, so it looks really tacky, but I still haven't
found a replacement.
Nashbar used to sell very lightweight long sleeved jerseys, but I haven't
seen them in awhile.
Matt O.
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Date: 07 Oct 2007 03:24:49
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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>> A friend and fellow randonneur used the Boure SPF whatever long sleeve
>> jerseys this year and liked them much better than sunscreen. I haven't
>> tried that sort of thing. UV rays do make it through typical bike
>> jerseys, though.
>
> I have an old Bellwether long sleeve lightweight Coolmax jersey, which has
> the widest comfort range of any cycling garment I've owned. It's fine for
> temps in the 50s (with a windbreaker) to nearly 80F. It does a pretty
> good job keeping the sun off without being too hot. It's also handy
> against poison oak while mountain biking. It's very old and faded now,
> with a couple of holes, so it looks really tacky, but I still haven't
> found a replacement.
>
> Nashbar used to sell very lightweight long sleeved jerseys, but I haven't
> seen them in awhile.
The problem is that many fabrics pass through an alarming amount of UV. I
was at a Nike product meeting, where we were discussing the future of
cycling apparel, and one of the things that came up was whether to
incorporate a new (two years ago) fabric technology designed specifically to
block UV. The differences between how well it worked vs what you got with a
standard jersey was substantial but, unfortunately, so was the bump in
price. The question was, would using this create a selling point that would
be so compelling it would offset the higher price of the garment?
I thought that it made a lot of sense, but in the grand scheme of things,
the public's awareness of skin cancer isn't high enough, and the marketing
would have to be pretty scary to be effective... and the last thing we
wanted to see was something like Specialized convincing half the world that
men shouldn't be riding bikes.
I have no idea if anybody's picked up the ball and run with the UV-blocking
fabric in the meantime. It's not my area of expertise (I'm not the
soft-goods expert in our operation).
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
"Matt O'Toole" <mattotoole@letterboxes.org > wrote in message
news:pan.2007.10.05.18.11.13.315212@letterboxes.org...
> On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:02:50 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote:
>
>> A friend and fellow randonneur used the Boure SPF whatever long sleeve
>> jerseys this year and liked them much better than sunscreen. I haven't
>> tried that sort of thing. UV rays do make it through typical bike
>> jerseys, though.
>
> I have an old Bellwether long sleeve lightweight Coolmax jersey, which has
> the widest comfort range of any cycling garment I've owned. It's fine for
> temps in the 50s (with a windbreaker) to nearly 80F. It does a pretty
> good job keeping the sun off without being too hot. It's also handy
> against poison oak while mountain biking. It's very old and faded now,
> with a couple of holes, so it looks really tacky, but I still haven't
> found a replacement.
>
> Nashbar used to sell very lightweight long sleeved jerseys, but I haven't
> seen them in awhile.
>
> Matt O.
>
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 14:12:45
From:
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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>The problem is that many fabrics pass through an alarming amount of UV.
Interesting!!
I didn't know this. I thought any cloth was always a
god 'sunscreen".
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 22:33:13
From: Mark
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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me@privacy.net wrote:
>> The problem is that many fabrics pass through an alarming amount of UV.
>
> Interesting!!
>
> I didn't know this. I thought any cloth was always a
> god 'sunscreen".
Definitely not. I've burnt fairly badly through a thin knit jersey.
Mark J.
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Date: 09 Oct 2007 09:51:08
From:
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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>me@privacy.net wrote:
>>> The problem is that many fabrics pass through an alarming amount of UV.
>>
>> Interesting!!
>>
>> I didn't know this. I thought any cloth was always a
>> god 'sunscreen".
>
>Definitely not. I've burnt fairly badly through a thin knit jersey.
>
>Mark J.
Ok
So what makes clothing that IS good at screening out
suns rays better than regular clothing?
What do they do to this special high spf clothing to
make it work?
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 13:23:51
From: Matt O'Toole
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 03:24:49 +0000, Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>>> A friend and fellow randonneur used the Boure SPF whatever long sleeve
>>> jerseys this year and liked them much better than sunscreen. I
>>> haven't tried that sort of thing. UV rays do make it through typical
>>> bike jerseys, though.
>>
>> I have an old Bellwether long sleeve lightweight Coolmax jersey, which
>> has the widest comfort range of any cycling garment I've owned. It's
>> fine for temps in the 50s (with a windbreaker) to nearly 80F. It does
>> a pretty good job keeping the sun off without being too hot. It's also
>> handy against poison oak while mountain biking. It's very old and
>> faded now, with a couple of holes, so it looks really tacky, but I
>> still haven't found a replacement.
>>
>> Nashbar used to sell very lightweight long sleeved jerseys, but I
>> haven't seen them in awhile.
>
> The problem is that many fabrics pass through an alarming amount of UV.
> I was at a Nike product meeting, where we were discussing the future of
> cycling apparel, and one of the things that came up was whether to
> incorporate a new (two years ago) fabric technology designed
> specifically to block UV. The differences between how well it worked vs
> what you got with a standard jersey was substantial but, unfortunately,
> so was the bump in price. The question was, would using this create a
> selling point that would be so compelling it would offset the higher
> price of the garment?
>
> I thought that it made a lot of sense, but in the grand scheme of
> things, the public's awareness of skin cancer isn't high enough, and the
> marketing would have to be pretty scary to be effective... and the last
> thing we wanted to see was something like Specialized convincing half
> the world that men shouldn't be riding bikes.
I've long been convinced that the bike industry does not get the cream of
the crop of the marketing professions!
> I have no idea if anybody's picked up the ball and run with the
> UV-blocking fabric in the meantime. It's not my area of expertise (I'm
> not the soft-goods expert in our operation).
I do remember seeing anti-UV jerseys a few years ago (Descente?), but they
were short sleeved racing jerseys. I haven't seen anything else lately,
but anti-UV is certainly popular for other kinds of sportswear -- golf,
boating, fly fishing, etc.
I bet it has hit the runner's market. There might be some anti-UV
runner'a clothes that could work well for cycling. So check the runner's
brands.
Matt O.
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Date: 04 Oct 2007 16:44:31
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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> I hate sunscreens.... so what other things do you guys
> wear or use that allow one to be cool, not sweat tons,
> and keep flesh form being exposed?
> Advice on clothing and apparel and methods please?
Not wanting to state the obvious, but since nobody else will...
Do you hate sunscreens more than you hate cancer?
Sunscreens aren't perfect, but they're pretty convenient, some aren't
terribly greasy, and unless you get apparel specifically designed to filter
out the dangerous stuff (which is just now beginning to make its way into
the marketplace), they (sunscreens) may actually do a better job.
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
<me@privacy.net > wrote in message
news:gldag3tob7k73doeb08pmhc9m5a5uv16ra@4ax.com...
> Male age 49..... have a small basal cell carcinoma on
> my leg to be roved in a few weeks. Light complexion.
> But where this lesion is is on a part of the body that
> I WOULD have thought didn't get much sun anyway!! It
> wasn't own my back or arms or anything.
>
> Given the info above I'm wondering what others do to
> avoid sun exposure while on long bike tours? I never
> worried abt it much but will now!! And ironically was
> going to get back into touring soon, buy bike, etc.
>
> BUT.... now I'm cognizant that I MUST avoid sun
> exposure while cycling in noon sun.
>
> I hate sunscreens.... so what other things do you guys
> wear or use that allow one to be cool, not sweat tons,
> and keep flesh form being exposed?
>
> Advice on clothing and apparel and methods please?
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 14:09:11
From:
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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>Not wanting to state the obvious, but since nobody else will...
>
>Do you hate sunscreens more than you hate cancer?
NO
But.... Id rather wear clothing if possible
I will use sunscreen if no clothing option is
available.... but trying to think abt ways to use
clothing. After al.... it is the original sunscreen
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Date: 09 Oct 2007 12:54:13
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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> >Not wanting to state the obvious, but since nobody else will...
>>
>>Do you hate sunscreens more than you hate cancer?
>
> NO
>
> But.... Id rather wear clothing if possible
>
> I will use sunscreen if no clothing option is
> available.... but trying to think abt ways to use
> clothing. After al.... it is the original sunscreen
The reason I brought it up is because there are many of us who don't give
sunscreen a second thought... we simply use it without considering there
might be a downside. Until you started this thread, I had no idea there were
so many people who couldn't stand to use sunscreen.
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
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Date: 09 Oct 2007 15:19:39
From:
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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>The reason I brought it up is because there are many of us who don't give
>sunscreen a second thought... we simply use it without considering there
>might be a downside. Until you started this thread, I had no idea there were
>so many people who couldn't stand to use sunscreen.
Well its not that I cant stand to use it.... only that
id prefer not to
Also I've even some evidence that the compounds IN
sunscreen could be harmful...... especially the nano
particles in them.
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Date: 05 Oct 2007 14:00:37
From: Matt O'Toole
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:44:31 -0700, Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> Not wanting to state the obvious, but since nobody else will...
>
> Do you hate sunscreens more than you hate cancer?
>
> Sunscreens aren't perfect, but they're pretty convenient, some aren't
> terribly greasy, and unless you get apparel specifically designed to
> filter out the dangerous stuff (which is just now beginning to make its
> way into the marketplace), they (sunscreens) may actually do a better
> job.
I'll second that. Skin cancer is nothing to fool around with, and anyone
who spends much time in the sun is susceptible.
There's a good sunscreen for everybody. Here's a good resource, probably
more than you ever wanted to know:
http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/special/sunscreens/summary.php
Matt O.
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Date: 06 Oct 2007 13:14:48
From: Mark
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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Matt O'Toole wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:44:31 -0700, Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>
>> Not wanting to state the obvious, but since nobody else will...
>>
>> Do you hate sunscreens more than you hate cancer?
>>
>> Sunscreens aren't perfect, but they're pretty convenient, some aren't
>> terribly greasy, and unless you get apparel specifically designed to
>> filter out the dangerous stuff (which is just now beginning to make its
>> way into the marketplace), they (sunscreens) may actually do a better
>> job.
>
> I'll second that. Skin cancer is nothing to fool around with, and anyone
> who spends much time in the sun is susceptible.
>
> There's a good sunscreen for everybody. Here's a good resource, probably
> more than you ever wanted to know:
>
> http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/special/sunscreens/summary.php
Agreed. We've had some nasty bouts with melanoma in my family, and I
don't want to go there myself.
Here are some things I've learned by trial and error:
1) I also have the sense that cream sunscreens adversely affect sweat
evaporation. Gel sunscreens don't seem to have this problem, and don't
get as gummy as the cream type, but it's hard to find gel sunscreen that
has extensive UVA protection.
Coppertone Sport Gel has one of the recommended UVA ingredients
(Avobenzone IIRC), but smells like a beach and isn't in stores near me
anymore. I recently discovered Neutrogena gel, which is unscented and
pleasant to use, but twice as expensive as the Coppertone.
2) There are zinc oxide variants that don't make you look like frosty
the snowman; the brand name of the patented ingredient is "Z-cote." the
zinc oxide is apparently ground super fine, and the result is
semi-translucent. Makes you look pale but not bleach white. I've only
tried this stuff on my face. I think it's supposed to last longer w/o
need for reapplication. The type I've used is in a thick, sort of
greasy cream, but it's not unpleasant; on some spring Oregon rides it
serves more of a waterproofing function than sunscreen function. In
summer, it doesn't seem to catch bugs as much as a
sweat-and-cream-sunscreen mixture.
I am starting to think I'd like to look into a summer-weight long-sleeve
jersey that block UV, though.
Mark J.
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Date: 07 Oct 2007 21:12:45
From: Patrick Lamb
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 13:14:48 -0700, Mark
<remove.mandmlj.this@remove.comcast.this.net > wrote:
>Matt O'Toole wrote:
>
>Coppertone Sport Gel has one of the recommended UVA ingredients
>(Avobenzone IIRC), but smells like a beach and isn't in stores near me
>anymore. I recently discovered Neutrogena gel, which is unscented and
>pleasant to use, but twice as expensive as the Coppertone.
I'll second the Neutrogena gel. Bullfrog gel also works well for me,
but when I ran out and couldn't find any for a while, I tried my
wife's Neutrogena and liked it. One benefit is that I don't seem to
need as much of the gels as I do the creams.
Pat
Email address works as is.
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Date: 04 Oct 2007 21:04:17
From: Jim Behning
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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I have seen more than one person on group tours riding in loose
fitting long sleeve, long legged clothes. I talked to one and skin
cancer was the reason.
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:44:31 -0700, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
<MikeJ@ChainReaction.com > wrote:
>> I hate sunscreens.... so what other things do you guys
>> wear or use that allow one to be cool, not sweat tons,
>> and keep flesh form being exposed?
>
>> Advice on clothing and apparel and methods please?
>
>Not wanting to state the obvious, but since nobody else will...
>
>Do you hate sunscreens more than you hate cancer?
>
>Sunscreens aren't perfect, but they're pretty convenient, some aren't
>terribly greasy, and unless you get apparel specifically designed to filter
>out the dangerous stuff (which is just now beginning to make its way into
>the marketplace), they (sunscreens) may actually do a better job.
>
>--Mike Jacoubowsky
>Chain Reaction Bicycles
>www.ChainReaction.com
>Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>
>
><me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>news:gldag3tob7k73doeb08pmhc9m5a5uv16ra@4ax.com...
>> Male age 49..... have a small basal cell carcinoma on
>> my leg to be roved in a few weeks. Light complexion.
>> But where this lesion is is on a part of the body that
>> I WOULD have thought didn't get much sun anyway!! It
>> wasn't own my back or arms or anything.
>>
>> Given the info above I'm wondering what others do to
>> avoid sun exposure while on long bike tours? I never
>> worried abt it much but will now!! And ironically was
>> going to get back into touring soon, buy bike, etc.
>>
>> BUT.... now I'm cognizant that I MUST avoid sun
>> exposure while cycling in noon sun.
>>
>> I hate sunscreens.... so what other things do you guys
>> wear or use that allow one to be cool, not sweat tons,
>> and keep flesh form being exposed?
>>
>> Advice on clothing and apparel and methods please?
>
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Date: 04 Oct 2007 20:14:11
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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On Oct 4, 2:57 pm, m...@privacy.net wrote:
> Male age 49..... have a small basal cell carcinoma on
> my leg to be roved in a few weeks. Light complexion.
> But where this lesion is is on a part of the body that
> I WOULD have thought didn't get much sun anyway!! It
> wasn't own my back or arms or anything.
>
> Given the info above I'm wondering what others do to
> avoid sun exposure while on long bike tours? I never
> worried abt it much but will now!! And ironically was
> going to get back into touring soon, buy bike, etc.
>
> BUT.... now I'm cognizant that I MUST avoid sun
> exposure while cycling in noon sun.
>
> I hate sunscreens.... so what other things do you guys
> wear or use that allow one to be cool, not sweat tons,
> and keep flesh form being exposed?
>
> Advice on clothing and apparel and methods please?
back of hands, lateral forearms, back of neck and shins. shins take a
beating: road dirt bird and dog crap, hydrocarbons, reflected
sunlight.
greaseing shins with blue tube coppertune is a good idea.
a velcro strip on the cap back for a going away from the sun neck
protector is cool.
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Date: 04 Oct 2007 15:25:10
From: Greens
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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> I hate sunscreens.... so what other things do you guys
> wear or use that allow one to be cool, not sweat tons,
> and keep flesh form being exposed?
>
> Advice on clothing and apparel and methods please?
Ride at night.
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 14:07:32
From:
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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>
>
>> I hate sunscreens.... so what other things do you guys
>> wear or use that allow one to be cool, not sweat tons,
>> and keep flesh form being exposed?
>>
>> Advice on clothing and apparel and methods please?
>
>Ride at night.
>
I can do this when riding around home.... but what abt
say a 2 week long distance tour?
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 18:19:12
From: Colin Campbell
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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me@privacy.net wrote:
>>
>>> I hate sunscreens.... so what other things do you guys
>>> wear or use that allow one to be cool, not sweat tons,
>>> and keep flesh form being exposed?
>>>
>>> Advice on clothing and apparel and methods please?
>> Ride at night.
>>
>
> I can do this when riding around home.... but what abt
> say a 2 week long distance tour?
The scenery should look GREAT! Or maybe I should say FLAWLESS!
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Date: 04 Oct 2007 15:08:34
From: Bellsouth Ijit 2.0 - Global Warming Edition ®
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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<me@privacy.net > wrote in message
news:gldag3tob7k73doeb08pmhc9m5a5uv16ra@4ax.com...
> Male age 49..... have a small basal cell carcinoma on
> my leg to be roved in a few weeks. Light complexion.
> But where this lesion is is on a part of the body that
> I WOULD have thought didn't get much sun anyway!! It
> wasn't own my back or arms or anything.
>
> Given the info above I'm wondering what others do to
> avoid sun exposure while on long bike tours? I never
> worried abt it much but will now!! And ironically was
> going to get back into touring soon, buy bike, etc.
>
> BUT.... now I'm cognizant that I MUST avoid sun
> exposure while cycling in noon sun.
>
> I hate sunscreens.... so what other things do you guys
> wear or use that allow one to be cool, not sweat tons,
> and keep flesh form being exposed?
>
> Advice on clothing and apparel and methods please?
If you can't stand sunscreens, the only option I see are loose-fitting
non-thermal tights, which all have wicking abilities so you can stay
somewhat cool.
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Date: 04 Oct 2007 14:16:30
From:
Subject: Re: Skin cancer and bike riding
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>If you can't stand sunscreens, the only option I see are loose-fitting
>non-thermal tights, which all have wicking abilities so you can stay
>somewhat cool.
Yeah my legs are gonna be tough.
Don't mind wearing a loose fitting long sleeve shirt
that can billow around in the wind.... but the legs
aren't so easily solved.
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