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Date: 25 Sep 2007 10:22:45
From: Jim Martin
Subject: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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Hello All:
One of my bikes has 27" wheels and I would really like to find some nice
fat slicks for it. Something similar to the Conti Sport Contact (for
reference see
http://aebike.com/page.cfm?PageID=30&action=details&sku=TR9319).
Anyone know where might find something like that?
Thanks in advance,
Jim
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Date: 25 Sep 2007 22:51:07
From: Nate Knutson
Subject: Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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On Sep 25, 9:17 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net > wrote:
> In article <fdbck3$v3...@news.xmission.com>,
> Jim Martin <jmar...@xmission.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello All:
>
> > One of my bikes has 27" wheels and I would really like to find some nice
> > fat slicks for it. Something similar to the Conti Sport Contact (for
> > reference see
>
> [...]
>
> > Anyone know where might find something like that?
>
> # Max Pressure: 110 PSI
> # Dimensions: 27" x 1.25"
> # Weight: 295 grams
> # Color: Black
>
> <http://www.serfas.com/tires/STK-27.shtml>
>
> --
> Michael Press
i missed the fact that the op wanted something fatter when i suggested
serfas secas before... they are actually about the worst example of
the actual size being way smaller than the listed that i've ever seen.
they're about 26mm inflated.
i think that michelin world tours may be a bit wider than 32mm
inflated, not 100% sure though.
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Date: 26 Sep 2007 01:11:53
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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In article
<1190785867.842235.94580@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com >,
Nate Knutson <bikenate@riseup.net > wrote:
> On Sep 25, 9:17 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > In article <fdbck3$v3...@news.xmission.com>,
> > Jim Martin <jmar...@xmission.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello All:
> >
> > > One of my bikes has 27" wheels and I would really like to find some nice
> > > fat slicks for it. Something similar to the Conti Sport Contact (for
> > > reference see
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Anyone know where might find something like that?
> >
> > # Max Pressure: 110 PSI
> > # Dimensions: 27" x 1.25"
> > # Weight: 295 grams
> > # Color: Black
> >
> > <http://www.serfas.com/tires/STK-27.shtml>
>
> i missed the fact that the op wanted something fatter when i suggested
> serfas secas before... they are actually about the worst example of
> the actual size being way smaller than the listed that i've ever seen.
> they're about 26mm inflated.
>
> i think that michelin world tours may be a bit wider than 32mm
> inflated, not 100% sure though.
Oh, well. They work alright for me, but I am not looking
for anything particularly fat or skinny; rather vague
on the matter. I value slick tread and thin sidewalls.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 25 Sep 2007 21:17:37
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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In article <fdbck3$v3f$1@news.xmission.com >,
Jim Martin <jmartin@xmission.com > wrote:
> Hello All:
>
> One of my bikes has 27" wheels and I would really like to find some nice
> fat slicks for it. Something similar to the Conti Sport Contact (for
> reference see
[...]
> Anyone know where might find something like that?
# Max Pressure: 110 PSI
# Dimensions: 27" x 1.25"
# Weight: 295 grams
# Color: Black
<http://www.serfas.com/tires/STK-27.shtml >
--
Michael Press
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Date: 25 Sep 2007 20:21:21
From: Jim Martin
Subject: Update and clarification Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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Thanks to all of you who have responded. I have followed up on your
various suggestions and I am getting the sense that the largest tire
available in 27" is going to be a 27 x 1 1/4. I really wish I could get
something closer to 26x1.6" Conti's I have on a tandem (I incorrectly
linked to the 26x1.3 version in the original post). What I really want
is tire that rolls nicely, turns nicely, and is fat enough to act as
cushy suspension.
Soooo.... looks like if I want fat and smooth I'll need to switch out to
700c wheel set. Easy enough I guess but I wanted to keep the touring
bike in original trim.
Any possibility there is a big fat smooth 27" tire out there that no one
has mentioned yet? I have contacts in UK and Australia so they don't
necessarily need to be available in the US.
Thanks again,
Jim
Jim Martin wrote:
> Hello All:
>
> One of my bikes has 27" wheels and I would really like to find some nice
> fat slicks for it. Something similar to the Conti Sport Contact (for
> reference see
> http://aebike.com/page.cfm?PageID=30&action=details&sku=TR9319).
>
> Anyone know where might find something like that?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Jim
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Date: 28 Sep 2007 03:02:37
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Update and clarification Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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to be serious for a moment.
so, at the end of the road, the answer to your question is
there are no more tires. nada.
the tires you ask about were made 15 to 20 years ago then warehoused.
the supply began to thin out 7 years ago.
the reason is right in back of you.
I have a similar problem with the car I keep - no more SP 44 Dunlops.
Gone.
So I went to look for new rims to fit 185mm, and hahaha the rims were
gone.
check out the Velocity wheelsets in MO
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 22:24:07
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Update and clarification Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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datakoll wrote:
> to be serious for a moment.
> so, at the end of the road, the answer to your question is
> there are no more tires. nada.
> the tires you ask about were made 15 to 20 years ago then warehoused.
> the supply began to thin out 7 years ago.
> the reason is right in back of you.
> I have a similar problem with the car I keep - no more SP 44 Dunlops.
> Gone.
> So I went to look for new rims to fit 185mm, and hahaha the rims were
> gone.
> check out the Velocity wheelsets in MO
27-inch hasn't been common on new bikes since abut 1985. Sure, you can
buy a tire, about a dozen or so models yet, just not everything imaginable.
Michelin dropped the VR series speed-rated tires for Corvair rims too. A
mere 30 some years and they walked away. Go figure.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 23:01:51
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Update and clarification Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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better keeping your eyes on the road looking for debris.
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 23:24:37
From: Tim McNamara
Subject: Re: Update and clarification Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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Road song tenderly tudo bem!
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 15:41:54
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Update and clarification Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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paselas are really cool tires: an ebullient cushiony ride.
like, the Conti TT possessing tread plus response on the TT level,
the Paselas gain with a sensoitive sidewall MADE FROM COTTTON THREAD.
PASS ELLA is joke no?
Just looks like a whitewall. OK if yawl avoiude cracks, rock sides,
cement ridges, rabid squieerl.
Butbut but ifn yawl fall into a crack it's boot time.
very deligad
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Date: 30 Sep 2007 10:37:29
From: Tom \Johnny Sunset\ Sherman
Subject: Re: Update and clarification Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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datakoll aka gene daniels wrote:
> ...
> Just looks like a whitewall. OK if yawl avoiude cracks, rock sides,
> cement ridges, rabid squieerl....
So the rabid squirrels bite tires, while the non-rabid variety just jump
into the spokes?
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
A Real Cyclist [TM] keeps at least one bicycle in the bedroom.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 17:56:51
From: Tim McNamara
Subject: Re: Update and clarification Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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In article <1190907714.966136.272120@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com >,
datakoll <datakoll@yahoo.com > wrote:
> PASS ELLA is joke no?
Wave to the man you love.
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 08:29:42
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Update and clarification Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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On Sep 27, 10:16 am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Sep 26, 9:43 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
>
>
> <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> > On Sep 26, 8:55 pm, Jim Martin <jmar...@xmission.com> wrote:
>
> > > datakoll wrote:
> > > > BEFORE yuo drift away...
> > > > buying a gator or spec turbo before thinking toward a set of 700c's
> > > > what are you on now?
>
> > > These days I ride the Michelin karbon 700x25 on my regular road bike. I
> > > find that they give the best combination of handling and wear. On my
> > > commuter bike I ride 26 x 2" slicks which are very comfy. My tandem has
> > > mtb wheels and I use the 26x1.6 Conti Sport Contact. Those are comfy,
> > > feel fast, and turn nicely.
>
> > > The touring bike in question currently wears Chen Shen 27 x 1 1/4 that
> > > are almost exactly the same width as my Michelin 700 x 25. They do not
> > > feel comfy nor do the turn nicely. This whole thread is my attempt to
> > > find a tire that will allow me to commute as comfortably on this bike as
> > > on my current fat-tire commuter.
>
> > Are you sure the tires are the source of your dis-satisfaction?
> > "Feeling comfy" might just be over-inflation. "Turn nicely"? Meaning
> > what? If they feel "squirrelly", that might be over-inflation, too.
>
> > Some of the Cheng Shin tires are quite decent, IMO/E. They also make
> > "private label" tires for others; the Serfas Seca tires recommended
> > earlier in this thread are one example.
>
> The Nashbar Prima Plus is another. Great tire.http://tinyurl.com/35o5yr
Agreed. I have a pair of the non-belted (i.e., Prima) 27 x 1 1/4 on my
"mule". I rode tis bike on some 30+ milers in the spring, including
quite a bit of dirt and gravel. The tires seem quite satisfactory.
Unfortunately, some people confuse high priced goods with quality
goods. The Cheng Shins are cheap, but good quality.
"The best goods are necessarily expensive; the reverse isn't
necessarily true."
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 15:16:19
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Update and clarification Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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On Sep 26, 9:43 pm, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Sep 26, 8:55 pm, Jim Martin <jmar...@xmission.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > datakoll wrote:
> > > BEFORE yuo drift away...
> > > buying a gator or spec turbo before thinking toward a set of 700c's
> > > what are you on now?
>
> > These days I ride the Michelin karbon 700x25 on my regular road bike. I
> > find that they give the best combination of handling and wear. On my
> > commuter bike I ride 26 x 2" slicks which are very comfy. My tandem has
> > mtb wheels and I use the 26x1.6 Conti Sport Contact. Those are comfy,
> > feel fast, and turn nicely.
>
> > The touring bike in question currently wears Chen Shen 27 x 1 1/4 that
> > are almost exactly the same width as my Michelin 700 x 25. They do not
> > feel comfy nor do the turn nicely. This whole thread is my attempt to
> > find a tire that will allow me to commute as comfortably on this bike as
> > on my current fat-tire commuter.
>
> Are you sure the tires are the source of your dis-satisfaction?
> "Feeling comfy" might just be over-inflation. "Turn nicely"? Meaning
> what? If they feel "squirrelly", that might be over-inflation, too.
>
> Some of the Cheng Shin tires are quite decent, IMO/E. They also make
> "private label" tires for others; the Serfas Seca tires recommended
> earlier in this thread are one example.
The Nashbar Prima Plus is another. Great tire.
http://tinyurl.com/35o5yr
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 05:48:57
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Update and clarification Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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Dear Jim,
please accept our deepest sympathy for your loss
all of us , well most of us, at RBT
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Date: 26 Sep 2007 19:43:45
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Update and clarification Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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On Sep 26, 8:55 pm, Jim Martin <jmar...@xmission.com > wrote:
> datakoll wrote:
> > BEFORE yuo drift away...
> > buying a gator or spec turbo before thinking toward a set of 700c's
> > what are you on now?
>
> These days I ride the Michelin karbon 700x25 on my regular road bike. I
> find that they give the best combination of handling and wear. On my
> commuter bike I ride 26 x 2" slicks which are very comfy. My tandem has
> mtb wheels and I use the 26x1.6 Conti Sport Contact. Those are comfy,
> feel fast, and turn nicely.
>
> The touring bike in question currently wears Chen Shen 27 x 1 1/4 that
> are almost exactly the same width as my Michelin 700 x 25. They do not
> feel comfy nor do the turn nicely. This whole thread is my attempt to
> find a tire that will allow me to commute as comfortably on this bike as
> on my current fat-tire commuter.
>
Are you sure the tires are the source of your dis-satisfaction?
"Feeling comfy" might just be over-inflation. "Turn nicely"? Meaning
what? If they feel "squirrelly", that might be over-inflation, too.
Some of the Cheng Shin tires are quite decent, IMO/E. They also make
"private label" tires for others; the Serfas Seca tires recommended
earlier in this thread are one example.
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Date: 26 Sep 2007 19:41:47
From: Tim McNamara
Subject: Re: Update and clarification Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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In article <fdcfme$ugv$1@news.xmission.com >,
Jim Martin <jmartin@xmission.com > wrote:
> Any possibility there is a big fat smooth 27" tire out there that no
> one has mentioned yet?
The Panaracer Pasela comes in 27". It is a nice smooth riding tire.
It's not a slick but the tread is really more minimal than it appears.
http://hiawathacyclery.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=10
&products_id=74
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Date: 26 Sep 2007 15:50:01
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Update and clarification Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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On Sep 26, 8:06 am, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Truth in lending?
> SportContact
> 37-622 28 x 1 3/8 x 1 5/8 black 786
> 32-622 28 x 1 1/4 x 1 3/4 black 980
>
> Search Specialized tire and rubbah at:http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCEqSuperSection.jsp?ssid=RoadTires
BEFORE yuo drift away...
buying a gator or spec turbo before thinking toward a set of 700c's
what are you on now?
economy class or the $30+ rubber? that's the DM
if you're on economy then an aramid belt Gator with a Specialized
thorn proof tube or a Spec Turbo with ditto
could be just the ticket. the Gator doesn't have the buns of a
Citysport but it'll go if you don't know from a Chang Sue.
Then you could wait to pounce on a mail order set of Velocity 700c's
from like Nashbar on sale in February (but maybe not this february,
190 billion goes a looooong way) for what? $100?
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Date: 26 Sep 2007 19:55:43
From: Jim Martin
Subject: Re: Update and clarification Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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datakoll wrote:
> BEFORE yuo drift away...
> buying a gator or spec turbo before thinking toward a set of 700c's
> what are you on now?
These days I ride the Michelin karbon 700x25 on my regular road bike. I
find that they give the best combination of handling and wear. On my
commuter bike I ride 26 x 2" slicks which are very comfy. My tandem has
mtb wheels and I use the 26x1.6 Conti Sport Contact. Those are comfy,
feel fast, and turn nicely.
The touring bike in question currently wears Chen Shen 27 x 1 1/4 that
are almost exactly the same width as my Michelin 700 x 25. They do not
feel comfy nor do the turn nicely. This whole thread is my attempt to
find a tire that will allow me to commute as comfortably on this bike as
on my current fat-tire commuter.
Thanks,
Jim
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 09:52:55
From: Tim McNamara
Subject: Re: Update and clarification Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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In article <fdf2ib$tv$1@news.xmission.com >,
Jim Martin <jmartin@xmission.com > wrote:
> datakoll wrote:
> > BEFORE yuo drift away... buying a gator or spec turbo before
> > thinking toward a set of 700c's what are you on now?
>
> These days I ride the Michelin karbon 700x25 on my regular road bike.
> I find that they give the best combination of handling and wear. On
> my commuter bike I ride 26 x 2" slicks which are very comfy. My
> tandem has mtb wheels and I use the 26x1.6 Conti Sport Contact. Those
> are comfy, feel fast, and turn nicely.
>
> The touring bike in question currently wears Chen Shen 27 x 1 1/4
> that are almost exactly the same width as my Michelin 700 x 25. They
> do not feel comfy nor do the turn nicely. This whole thread is my
> attempt to find a tire that will allow me to commute as comfortably
> on this bike as on my current fat-tire commuter.
Try the Paselas.
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Date: 26 Sep 2007 01:33:37
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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and what type Continental Made in India was mounted on the out of true
dragged down the road for 116 miles was it?
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Date: 26 Sep 2007 00:25:51
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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what width fits bewteen the stays?
your gonna get what you pay for here. if the Conti, a 3 ply aramid
(kevlar) carcass, costs $29-35 then the Schwalbe at a similar price,
recently upgraded in and by an Asian factory with a German name.,
could come in with similar standards
it's probably not as lively as a Conti. Conti's with that round shape/
carcass design gets grip grip grip as the bike gets laid over in a
turn, a Schwalbe might, the Michelin may not, the Pasela's have very
weak sidewalls, and the low cost tires are low cost tires meant for
the middle class in Myanmar or Calcutta not sophisticated wanna be
road racers like you (and me).
The Conti Gatorskin is less of a commuter and more of a road racer
tthan the Citysport. Conti is fairly precise in designing and
marketing each Conti design for each grade application. So if you
wannabe road race, the Gator is fast but not as durable by far as the
Citysport, Sport! and you could end up bitchin about it on RBT like
several other folk.
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Date: 25 Sep 2007 20:20:15
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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datakoll wrote:
> what width fits bewteen the stays?
>
> your gonna get what you pay for here. if the Conti, a 3 ply aramid
> (kevlar) carcass, costs $29-35 then the Schwalbe at a similar price,
> recently upgraded in and by an Asian factory with a German name.,
> could come in with similar standards
> it's probably not as lively as a Conti. Conti's with that round shape/
> carcass design gets grip grip grip as the bike gets laid over in a
> turn, a Schwalbe might, the Michelin may not, the Pasela's have very
> weak sidewalls, and the low cost tires are low cost tires meant for
> the middle class in Myanmar or Calcutta not sophisticated wanna be
> road racers like you (and me).
>
> The Conti Gatorskin is less of a commuter and more of a road racer
> tthan the Citysport. Conti is fairly precise in designing and
> marketing each Conti design for each grade application. So if you
> wannabe road race, the Gator is fast but not as durable by far as the
> Citysport, Sport! and you could end up bitchin about it on RBT like
> several other folk.
I'm surely not a Continental tire expert but I recently replaced a
newish one, 26x1.75, rent with a classic 'cotton casing' starburst right
in the tread center.
I was explaining to the customer how unusual that is today, how we
almost never see that failure (which was common in our youth) because
modern tires are nylon casing, not cotton.
Further inspection showed it to be a coarse cotton casing marked
"Continental Made in India". Definitely not recommended.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 25 Sep 2007 21:13:21
From: Chalo
Subject: Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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Jim Martin wrote:
>
> One of my bikes has 27" wheels and I would really like to find some nice
> fat slicks for it. Something similar to the Conti Sport Contact (for
> reference seehttp://aebike.com/page.cfm?PageID=30&action=details&sku=TR9319).
True slicks are increasingly scarce in the obsolescent 27" size.
Harris Cyclery has a couple. http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/tires/630.html
I can say from experience that while it isn't slick, the Michelin
World Tour 27x1-1/4" tire is not only one of the fattest 27" tires
I've tried, but also one of the fastest.
Chalo
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Date: 25 Sep 2007 16:05:22
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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Jim Martin wrote:
> One of my bikes has 27" wheels and I would really like to find some
nice
> fat slicks for it. Something similar to the Conti Sport Contact (for
> reference see
> http://aebike.com/page.cfm?PageID=30&action=details&sku=TR9319).
> Anyone know where might find something like that?
Or the Michelin Word Tour 27 which is quite ample, about 38mm.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 25 Sep 2007 11:20:57
From: Nate Knutson
Subject: Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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On Sep 25, 9:22 am, Jim Martin <jmar...@xmission.com > wrote:
> Hello All:
>
> One of my bikes has 27" wheels and I would really like to find some nice
> fat slicks for it. Something similar to the Conti Sport Contact (for
> reference seehttp://aebike.com/page.cfm?PageID=30&action=details&sku=TR9319).
>
> Anyone know where might find something like that?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Jim
serfas secas
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Date: 25 Sep 2007 21:40:24
From: Kinky Cowboy
Subject: Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:20:57 -0700, Nate Knutson <bikenate@riseup.net >
wrote:
>On Sep 25, 9:22 am, Jim Martin <jmar...@xmission.com> wrote:
>> Hello All:
>>
>> One of my bikes has 27" wheels and I would really like to find some nice
>> fat slicks for it. Something similar to the Conti Sport Contact (for
>> reference seehttp://aebike.com/page.cfm?PageID=30&action=details&sku=TR9319).
>>
That's a 32mm tyre, which hardly counts as fat, but if a 32 is what
you want there's a Conti Ultra Gator Skin 32-630
http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/bicycle/themes/tires/race/ultra_gatorskin/ultra_gatorskin_en.html
or Conti Ultrasport 32-630
http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/bicycle/themes/tires/race/ultra_sport/ultra_sport_en.html
or Schwalbe Marathon 32-630
http://www.schwalbe.com/gbl/en/bicycle/on_tour/produktgruppe/produkt/?ID_Produktgruppe=21&ID_Produkt=58&ID_Land=38&ID_Sprache=2&ID_Einsatzbereich=2&tn_mainPoint=Fahrrad&tn_subPoint=On+Tour
Kinky Cowboy*
*Batteries not included
May contain traces of nuts
Your milage may vary
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Date: 25 Sep 2007 16:27:58
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Source for nice fat 27" slicks?
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On Sep 25, 11:22 am, Jim Martin <jmar...@xmission.com > wrote:
> Hello All:
>
> One of my bikes has 27" wheels and I would really like to find some nice
> fat slicks for it. Something similar to the Conti Sport Contact (for
> reference seehttp://aebike.com/page.cfm?PageID=30&action=details&sku=TR9319).
>
> Anyone know where might find something like that?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Jim
I used a pair of cheap and cheerful Vittoria Zaffiro 27"x1 1/4" tires
on my utility bike last year. They roll nice, and never managed to
puncture. $13. The tread is about an inconsequential as a herringbone
pattern, they feel like slicks.
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