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Date: 21 Jul 2007 09:42:22
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Subject: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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I just bought an assortment of different sized ball bearings for my hubs and pedals. With 100 pieces for each size I suspect they will last me several years, so now I wonder how to store them correctly so they don't rust. They came in small plastic bags folded and stapled together. It looks like there is a very thin oil film on the bearings. My first thought was to put them in zip-lock bags and pour some Finish Line Cross Country wet lube into each bag, but is this good enough for storing them for perhaps 3-5 years, or should I use grease, or airtight containers, or is the supplied oil film good enough? How do you store them? -- Regards Peter S.
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Date: 23 Jul 2007 11:58:31
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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On Jul 22, 6:47 am, phs...@gmail.com wrote: > On 22 Jul., 14:08, Qui si parla Campagnolo <pe...@vecchios.com> wrote: > > [snip] > > > But this is closer to the center of the earth, more gravity..make sure > > they are all flat, not stacked!! > > Thanks for all the input. I have decided to aggregate all the kind > technical suggestions, and will therefore store the ball bearings by > floating them in a permanent plasmafield. > > -- > Regards > Peter S. .....Some oil into the bag..seal, they will be fine.
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 14:43:32
From: Michael Dart
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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phs123@gmail.com wrote: My wife keeps mine in a jar. She lets me have them once in a while so I can race.
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 18:55:31
From: John Thompson
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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On 2007-07-22, Michael Dart <mrdart@newsguy.com > wrote: > phs123@gmail.com wrote: > > My wife keeps mine in a jar. Michael: ball *BEARINGS* -- this is a family group, remember... -- John (john@os2.dhs.org)
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Date: 23 Jul 2007 21:59:41
From: Michael Dart
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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John Thompson wrote: > On 2007-07-22, Michael Dart <mrdart@newsguy.com> wrote: > >> phs123@gmail.com wrote: >> >> My wife keeps mine in a jar. > > Michael: ball *BEARINGS* -- this is a family group, remember... Yes. A very disfunctional family. ;^)
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Date: 24 Jul 2007 00:25:19
From: Kerry Montgomery
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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"John Thompson" <john@vector.os2.dhs.org > wrote in message news:slrnfa7rji.8on.john@vector.os2.dhs.org... > On 2007-07-22, Michael Dart <mrdart@newsguy.com> wrote: > >> phs123@gmail.com wrote: >> >> My wife keeps mine in a jar. > > Michael: ball *BEARINGS* -- this is a family group, remember... > > -- > > John (john@os2.dhs.org) Actually bearing balls, ball bearings are assemblies of bearing balls, inner and outer races, maybe seals and keepers. Kerry
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 18:40:45
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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On Jul 21, 11:42 am, phs...@gmail.com wrote: > I just bought an assortment of different sized ball bearings for my > hubs and pedals. With 100 pieces for each size I suspect they will > last me several years, so now I wonder how to store them correctly so > they don't rust. > They came in small plastic bags folded and stapled together. It looks > like there is a very thin oil film on the bearings. > My first thought was to put them in zip-lock bags and pour some Finish > Line Cross Country wet lube into each bag, but is this good enough for > storing them for perhaps 3-5 years, or should I use grease, or > airtight containers, or is the supplied oil film good enough? How do > you store them? > Narrow olive jar with the plastic holder thing that pulls out. Cover with your choice of oil. Make sure to label it so drunken Italians don't try to make a puttanesca with them.
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 16:01:07
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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The bags are ok-tape shut. http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?memberId=12500226&productId=39174032 Wal and H-D carry boxes that seal well with a sheet of plastic material laid across the open box then top closed on it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silica_gel the idea is preventing moisture entry or condensation thru temperature differentials. The packaged oil is maybe all right but your oil may carry water! So the elevation from the bottom- a sump- is a good idea. The primo method for humid and uncontrolled climates could be linseed oil in pill bottles with a sumped bottom: bottles then placed ikn an Otter with desiccant. Desiccant requires a closed and closed in a dry warm atmosphere environment otherwise the desiccant will attract excess moisture. if you develop a method for avoiding the magnetic field without extra energy input please email.
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Date: 24 Jul 2007 11:11:56
From: John Dacey
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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"Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet" - gene d On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:01:07 -0000, datakoll <datakoll@yahoo.com > wrote: > >The bags are ok-tape shut. >http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?memberId=12500226&productId=39174032 >Wal and H-D carry boxes that seal well with a sheet of plastic >material laid across the open box then top closed on it. >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silica_gel >the idea is preventing moisture entry or condensation thru temperature >differentials. >The packaged oil is maybe all right but your oil may carry water! So >the elevation from the bottom- a sump- is a good idea. >The primo method for humid and uncontrolled climates could be linseed >oil in pill bottles with a sumped bottom: bottles then placed ikn an >Otter with desiccant. >Desiccant requires a closed and closed in a dry warm atmosphere >environment otherwise the desiccant will attract excess moisture. > if you develop a method for avoiding the magnetic field without extra >energy input please email. but but but you make a pretty good case for ceramics! Solves the water/rust issue as well as giving a complete miss to the magnetic field. It's still probably not a good idea to put dessicant in otters though. ------------------------------- John Dacey Business Cycles, Miami, Florida Since 1983 Comprehensive catalogue of track equipment: online since 1996 http://www.businesscycles.com -------------------------------
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Date: 24 Jul 2007 12:02:11
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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> datakoll <datakoll@yahoo.com> wrote: >> The bags are ok-tape shut. >> http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?memberId=12500226&productId=39174032 >> Wal and H-D carry boxes that seal well with a sheet of plastic >> material laid across the open box then top closed on it. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silica_gel >> the idea is preventing moisture entry or condensation thru temperature >> differentials. >> The packaged oil is maybe all right but your oil may carry water! So >> the elevation from the bottom- a sump- is a good idea. >> The primo method for humid and uncontrolled climates could be linseed >> oil in pill bottles with a sumped bottom: bottles then placed ikn an >> Otter with desiccant. >> Desiccant requires a closed and closed in a dry warm atmosphere >> environment otherwise the desiccant will attract excess moisture. >> if you develop a method for avoiding the magnetic field without extra >> energy input please email. John Dacey wrote: > "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet" - gene d > but but but you make a pretty good case for ceramics! Solves the > water/rust issue as well as giving a complete miss to the magnetic > field. > > It's still probably not a good idea to put dessicant in otters though. "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet" - gene d !!! All time best classical reference! -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 24 Jul 2007 11:18:24
From:
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:02:11 -0500, A Muzi <am@yellowjersey.org > wrote: >> datakoll <datakoll@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> The bags are ok-tape shut. >>> http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?memberId=12500226&productId=39174032 >>> Wal and H-D carry boxes that seal well with a sheet of plastic >>> material laid across the open box then top closed on it. >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silica_gel >>> the idea is preventing moisture entry or condensation thru temperature >>> differentials. >>> The packaged oil is maybe all right but your oil may carry water! So >>> the elevation from the bottom- a sump- is a good idea. >>> The primo method for humid and uncontrolled climates could be linseed >>> oil in pill bottles with a sumped bottom: bottles then placed ikn an >>> Otter with desiccant. >>> Desiccant requires a closed and closed in a dry warm atmosphere >>> environment otherwise the desiccant will attract excess moisture. >>> if you develop a method for avoiding the magnetic field without extra >>> energy input please email. > >John Dacey wrote: >> "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet" - gene d > >> but but but you make a pretty good case for ceramics! Solves the >> water/rust issue as well as giving a complete miss to the magnetic >> field. >> >> It's still probably not a good idea to put dessicant in otters though. > >"Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet" - gene d >!!! >All time best classical reference! Dear Andrew, For those not familiar with the phrase . . . http://www.lorem-ipsum.info/ Cheers, Carl Fogel
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Date: 24 Jul 2007 16:31:37
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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In article <nucca3l1dgh7bdcrl7qr4o21rbjqhe84os@4ax.com >, carlfogel@comcast.net wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:02:11 -0500, A Muzi <am@yellowjersey.org> > wrote: > > >> datakoll <datakoll@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> The bags are ok-tape shut. > >>> http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?memberId=12500226&productId=39174032 > >>> Wal and H-D carry boxes that seal well with a sheet of plastic > >>> material laid across the open box then top closed on it. > >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silica_gel > >>> the idea is preventing moisture entry or condensation thru temperature > >>> differentials. > >>> The packaged oil is maybe all right but your oil may carry water! So > >>> the elevation from the bottom- a sump- is a good idea. > >>> The primo method for humid and uncontrolled climates could be linseed > >>> oil in pill bottles with a sumped bottom: bottles then placed ikn an > >>> Otter with desiccant. > >>> Desiccant requires a closed and closed in a dry warm atmosphere > >>> environment otherwise the desiccant will attract excess moisture. > >>> if you develop a method for avoiding the magnetic field without extra > >>> energy input please email. > > > >John Dacey wrote: > >> "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet" - gene d > > > >> but but but you make a pretty good case for ceramics! Solves the > >> water/rust issue as well as giving a complete miss to the magnetic > >> field. > >> > >> It's still probably not a good idea to put dessicant in otters though. > > > >"Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet" - gene d > >!!! > >All time best classical reference! > > Dear Andrew, > > For those not familiar with the phrase . . . > > http://www.lorem-ipsum.info/ And here is a Lorem ipsum generator. <URL:http://www.lipsum.com/ > -- Michael Press
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Date: 24 Jul 2007 19:27:53
From: Sandy
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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Dans le message de news:nucca3l1dgh7bdcrl7qr4o21rbjqhe84os@4ax.com, carlfogel@comcast.net <carlfogel@comcast.net > a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré : > On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:02:11 -0500, A Muzi <am@yellowjersey.org> > wrote: > >>> datakoll <datakoll@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> The bags are ok-tape shut. >>>> http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?memberId=12500226&productId=39174032 >>>> Wal and H-D carry boxes that seal well with a sheet of plastic >>>> material laid across the open box then top closed on it. >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silica_gel >>>> the idea is preventing moisture entry or condensation thru >>>> temperature differentials. >>>> The packaged oil is maybe all right but your oil may carry water! >>>> So the elevation from the bottom- a sump- is a good idea. >>>> The primo method for humid and uncontrolled climates could be >>>> linseed oil in pill bottles with a sumped bottom: bottles then >>>> placed ikn an Otter with desiccant. >>>> Desiccant requires a closed and closed in a dry warm atmosphere >>>> environment otherwise the desiccant will attract excess moisture. >>>> if you develop a method for avoiding the magnetic field without >>>> extra energy input please email. >> >> John Dacey wrote: >>> "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet" - gene d >> >>> but but but you make a pretty good case for ceramics! Solves the >>> water/rust issue as well as giving a complete miss to the magnetic >>> field. >>> >>> It's still probably not a good idea to put dessicant in otters >>> though. >> >> "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet" - gene d >> !!! >> All time best classical reference! > > Dear Andrew, > > For those not familiar with the phrase . . . > > http://www.lorem-ipsum.info/ > > Cheers, > > Carl Fogel -- Sandy -- Il n'est aucune sorte de sensation qui soit plus vive que celle de la douleur ; ses impressions sont sûres, elles ne trompent point comme celles du plaisir. - de Sade.
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 05:47:06
From:
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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On 22 Jul., 14:08, Qui si parla Campagnolo <pe...@vecchios.com > wrote: [snip] > But this is closer to the center of the earth, more gravity..make sure > they are all flat, not stacked!! Thanks for all the input. I have decided to aggregate all the kind technical suggestions, and will therefore store the ball bearings by floating them in a permanent plasmafield. -- Regards Peter S.
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 18:49:12
From: John Thompson
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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On 2007-07-22, phs123@gmail.com <phs123@gmail.com > wrote: > On 22 Jul., 14:08, Qui si parla Campagnolo <pe...@vecchios.com> wrote: > > [snip] >> But this is closer to the center of the earth, more gravity..make sure >> they are all flat, not stacked!! > > Thanks for all the input. I have decided to aggregate all the kind > technical suggestions, and will therefore store the ball bearings by > floating them in a permanent plasmafield. Dude! Don't do that! Two words: "plasma embrittlement!" Let's face it, ball bearings have a strictly limited shelf life. Isn't there a local farmer's market in your area where some codger sells fresh ones out of the back of his truck? Just pop by there a couple times a week and you'll be fine. -- John (john@os2.dhs.org)
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 11:15:11
From: Peter Cole
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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phs123@gmail.com wrote: > On 22 Jul., 14:08, Qui si parla Campagnolo <pe...@vecchios.com> wrote: > > [snip] >> But this is closer to the center of the earth, more gravity..make sure >> they are all flat, not stacked!! > > Thanks for all the input. I have decided to aggregate all the kind > technical suggestions, and will therefore store the ball bearings by > floating them in a permanent plasmafield. > > -- > Regards > Peter S. > Just make sure it's not a magnetic field or Jobst will be down on you....
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 12:08:39
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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On Jul 21, 1:48 pm, Ned Mantei <man...@cell.biol.ethz.ch > wrote: > In article <1185036142.052796.138...@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>, > > phs...@gmail.com wrote: > >I just bought an assortment of different sized ball bearings for my > >hubs and pedals. With 100 pieces for each size I suspect they will > >last me several years, so now I wonder how to store them correctly so > >they don't rust. > >They came in small plastic bags folded and stapled together. It looks > >like there is a very thin oil film on the bearings. > >My first thought was to put them in zip-lock bags and pour some Finish > >Line Cross Country wet lube into each bag, but is this good enough for > >storing them for perhaps 3-5 years, or should I use grease, or > >airtight containers, or is the supplied oil film good enough? How do > >you store them? > > I just don't keep them in the basement, which tends to be humid and > rust-promoting. > > Ned > > -- > Ned Mantei > Zurich, Switzerland But this is closer to the center of the earth, more gravity..make sure they are all flat, not stacked!!
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Date: 24 Jul 2007 11:08:21
From: John Henderson
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote: > On Jul 21, 1:48 pm, Ned Mantei <man...@cell.biol.ethz.ch> > wrote: >> I just don't keep them in the basement, which tends to be >> humid and rust-promoting. > > But this is closer to the center of the earth, more > gravity..make sure they are all flat, not stacked!! No. Once you get below the earth's surface, gravity decreases again. It's zero at the centre. John
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 14:17:00
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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On Jul 21, 11:42 am, phs...@gmail.com wrote: > I just bought an assortment of different sized ball bearings for my > hubs and pedals. With 100 pieces for each size I suspect they will > last me several years, so now I wonder how to store them correctly so > they don't rust. > They came in small plastic bags folded and stapled together. It looks > like there is a very thin oil film on the bearings. > My first thought was to put them in zip-lock bags and pour some Finish > Line Cross Country wet lube into each bag, but is this good enough for > storing them for perhaps 3-5 years, or should I use grease, or > airtight containers, or is the supplied oil film good enough? How do > you store them? > I've kept mine in a sac since childhood. ;-)
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Date: 24 Jul 2007 23:43:17
From: G.T.
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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Ozark Bicycle wrote: > On Jul 21, 11:42 am, phs...@gmail.com wrote: >> I just bought an assortment of different sized ball bearings for my >> hubs and pedals. With 100 pieces for each size I suspect they will >> last me several years, so now I wonder how to store them correctly so >> they don't rust. >> They came in small plastic bags folded and stapled together. It looks >> like there is a very thin oil film on the bearings. >> My first thought was to put them in zip-lock bags and pour some Finish >> Line Cross Country wet lube into each bag, but is this good enough for >> storing them for perhaps 3-5 years, or should I use grease, or >> airtight containers, or is the supplied oil film good enough? How do >> you store them? >> > > I've kept mine in a sac since childhood. ;-) > There's quite a bit of support for the possibility that you don't have any balls. Greg -- The ticketbastard Tax Tracker: http://www.ticketmastersucks.org/tracker.html Dethink to survive - Mclusky
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 20:10:18
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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On Jul 21, 9:42 am, phs...@gmail.com wrote: > I just bought an assortment of different sized ball bearings for my > hubs and pedals. With 100 pieces for each size I suspect they will > last me several years, so now I wonder how to store them correctly so > they don't rust. > They came in small plastic bags folded and stapled together. It looks > like there is a very thin oil film on the bearings. > My first thought was to put them in zip-lock bags and pour some Finish > Line Cross Country wet lube into each bag, but is this good enough for > storing them for perhaps 3-5 years, or should I use grease, or > airtight containers, or is the supplied oil film good enough? How do > you store them? Hang them upside down from the ceiling so they don't go out of round. Ben
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 14:13:29
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote: > On Jul 21, 9:42 am, phs...@gmail.com wrote: >> I just bought an assortment of different sized ball bearings for my >> hubs and pedals. With 100 pieces for each size I suspect they will >> last me several years, so now I wonder how to store them correctly so >> they don't rust. >> They came in small plastic bags folded and stapled together. It looks >> like there is a very thin oil film on the bearings. >> My first thought was to put them in zip-lock bags and pour some >> Finish Line Cross Country wet lube into each bag, but is this good >> enough for storing them for perhaps 3-5 years, or should I use >> grease, or airtight containers, or is the supplied oil film good >> enough? How do you store them? > Hang them upside down from the ceiling so they don't > go out of round. And don't forget to rotate them bi-weekly.
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 21:48:30
From: Ned Mantei
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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In article <1185036142.052796.138410@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com >, phs123@gmail.com wrote: >I just bought an assortment of different sized ball bearings for my >hubs and pedals. With 100 pieces for each size I suspect they will >last me several years, so now I wonder how to store them correctly so >they don't rust. >They came in small plastic bags folded and stapled together. It looks >like there is a very thin oil film on the bearings. >My first thought was to put them in zip-lock bags and pour some Finish >Line Cross Country wet lube into each bag, but is this good enough for >storing them for perhaps 3-5 years, or should I use grease, or >airtight containers, or is the supplied oil film good enough? How do >you store them? > > I just don't keep them in the basement, which tends to be humid and rust-promoting. Ned -- Ned Mantei Zurich, Switzerland
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 19:37:31
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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On Jul 21, 9:42 am, phs...@gmail.com wrote: > I just bought an assortment of different sized ball bearings for my > hubs and pedals. With 100 pieces for each size I suspect they will > last me several years, so now I wonder how to store them correctly so > they don't rust. > They came in small plastic bags folded and stapled together. It looks > like there is a very thin oil film on the bearings. > My first thought was to put them in zip-lock bags and pour some Finish > Line Cross Country wet lube into each bag, but is this good enough for > storing them for perhaps 3-5 years, or should I use grease, or > airtight containers, or is the supplied oil film good enough? How do > you store them? > > -- > Regards > Peter S. Store them flat so they don't dent each other over time..into some grasso
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 12:32:30
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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In article <1185036142.052796.138410@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com >, phs123@gmail.com wrote: > I just bought an assortment of different sized ball bearings for my > hubs and pedals. With 100 pieces for each size I suspect they will > last me several years, so now I wonder how to store them correctly so > they don't rust. > They came in small plastic bags folded and stapled together. It looks > like there is a very thin oil film on the bearings. > My first thought was to put them in zip-lock bags and pour some Finish > Line Cross Country wet lube into each bag, but is this good enough for > storing them for perhaps 3-5 years, or should I use grease, or > airtight containers, or is the supplied oil film good enough? How do > you store them? In an oil bath, or cosmoline if you can find some. As you suspect, a coating of oil will not save you. Actually in the oil bath, the metal parts should be supported off of the very bottom, since water will inevitably collect there. -- Michael Press
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 13:18:41
From: Peter Cole
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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phs123@gmail.com wrote: > I just bought an assortment of different sized ball bearings for my > hubs and pedals. With 100 pieces for each size I suspect they will > last me several years, so now I wonder how to store them correctly so > they don't rust. If they rust, throw them away, they're not the kind you want.
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 13:16:09
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Storing ball bearings not in use?
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:42:22 -0700, phs123@gmail.com wrote: >I just bought an assortment of different sized ball bearings for my >hubs and pedals. With 100 pieces for each size I suspect they will >last me several years, so now I wonder how to store them correctly so >they don't rust. >They came in small plastic bags folded and stapled together. It looks >like there is a very thin oil film on the bearings. >My first thought was to put them in zip-lock bags and pour some Finish >Line Cross Country wet lube into each bag, but is this good enough for >storing them for perhaps 3-5 years, or should I use grease, or >airtight containers, or is the supplied oil film good enough? How do >you store them? I don't think tthey'll rust if you store them as is. That's how I store mine and haven't seen any rust in years. I live vaguely near the sea (New York City). -- JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com ****************************
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