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Date: 24 Aug 2007 13:32:06
From: kwhiner
Subject: Super Record crank bolts
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Just bought a '78 Guerciotti, went this morning to change the 170mm arms for some 172.5s and found the crank bolts to be an odd size, and don't match at least in vintage for sure. Dug out the magnifying glass and they are Campy bolts. The bolts seem to be non-metric just smaller than 14mm. The 13 is too small 14 too big. Any info, suggestions, etc would be of help. Thanks. kwhiner
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Date: 30 Aug 2007 18:47:23
From: Mark
Subject: Re: Super Record crank bolts
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On Aug 25, 5:59 pm, spikenett...@earthlink.net wrote: > Black 911 Porsche Carrera Red ones are faster. MC
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Date: 25 Aug 2007 18:19:42
From:
Subject: Re: Super Record crank bolts
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On Aug 25, 6:16 pm, "dustoyev...@mac.com" <dustoyev...@mac.com > wrote: > On Aug 25, 4:59 pm, spikenett...@earthlink.net wrote: > > > Now you got me really worried about that 23mm 12-point metric socket I > > found at the bottom of my tool box. Black 911 Porsche Carrera > > convertible specific? > > My 13 year old daughter recently bugged me until I took her to the > Porsche dealership (to look at Porsches). > > She chickened out of going inside, sent me in for pictures/pamphlets/ > whatever. > > Point of the story: on the way in, I realized: This Could Work Out for > Me! > > The salesman who gave me the ad mat'ls thought that was pretty funny. > He has a daughter a couple of years older, same deal. > > (One of the Boxters had a sign in the windshield: Lease Me for $660 a > month!!!) --D-y Aah, you're lucky. Not to mention a couple of guys, maybe, who in ten or so years from now will have wives who draw the line, put their foot down, and deliver the ultimatum - either we get a Porsche or I'm leaving.. -- I digress, Spike
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Date: 25 Aug 2007 16:16:26
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Re: Super Record crank bolts
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On Aug 25, 4:59 pm, spikenett...@earthlink.net wrote: > Now you got me really worried about that 23mm 12-point metric socket I > found at the bottom of my tool box. Black 911 Porsche Carrera > convertible specific? My 13 year old daughter recently bugged me until I took her to the Porsche dealership (to look at Porsches). She chickened out of going inside, sent me in for pictures/pamphlets/ whatever. Point of the story: on the way in, I realized: This Could Work Out for Me! The salesman who gave me the ad mat'ls thought that was pretty funny. He has a daughter a couple of years older, same deal. (One of the Boxters had a sign in the windshield: Lease Me for $660 a month!!!) --D-y
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Date: 25 Aug 2007 14:59:50
From:
Subject: Re: Super Record crank bolts
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On Aug 25, 1:35 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net > wrote: > In article > <1188014718.295114.315...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> > , > > spikenett...@earthlink.net wrote: > > On Aug 24, 9:46 pm, John Thompson <j...@vector.os2.dhs.org> wrote: > > > On 2007-08-25, spikenett...@earthlink.net <spikenett...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > A '78 Guerciotti? - nice bike. The steel Campy crank bolts for that > > > > era's bottom brackets require a thin wall 15mm socket - thin walled to > > > > clear the threaded well sides of the crank -- or Campy's own 15mm > > > > "peanut butter wrench" that is for this specific purpose. > > > > Don't tell the track guys that -- they seem to think it was intended > > > specifically for the hub nuts. :-) > > > Very interesting, but I wish you hadn't told me. Now I'll have to get > > a track bike to go with my wrench. > > Another fashion victim. There are programs for it, but, > alas! Most people never admit they have a problem. > > -- > Michael Press Now you got me really worried about that 23mm 12-point metric socket I found at the bottom of my tool box. Black 911 Porsche Carrera convertible specific? -- Spike
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Date: 24 Aug 2007 21:05:18
From:
Subject: Re: Super Record crank bolts
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On Aug 24, 9:46 pm, John Thompson <j...@vector.os2.dhs.org > wrote: > On 2007-08-25, spikenett...@earthlink.net <spikenett...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > A '78 Guerciotti? - nice bike. The steel Campy crank bolts for that > > era's bottom brackets require a thin wall 15mm socket - thin walled to > > clear the threaded well sides of the crank -- or Campy's own 15mm > > "peanut butter wrench" that is for this specific purpose. > > Don't tell the track guys that -- they seem to think it was intended > specifically for the hub nuts. :-) > > -- > > John (j...@os2.dhs.org) Very interesting, but I wish you hadn't told me. Now I'll have to get a track bike to go with my wrench. -- Spike
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Date: 25 Aug 2007 18:35:34
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Super Record crank bolts
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In article <1188014718.295114.315530@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com > , spikenettles@earthlink.net wrote: > On Aug 24, 9:46 pm, John Thompson <j...@vector.os2.dhs.org> wrote: > > On 2007-08-25, spikenett...@earthlink.net <spikenett...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > A '78 Guerciotti? - nice bike. The steel Campy crank bolts for that > > > era's bottom brackets require a thin wall 15mm socket - thin walled to > > > clear the threaded well sides of the crank -- or Campy's own 15mm > > > "peanut butter wrench" that is for this specific purpose. > > > > Don't tell the track guys that -- they seem to think it was intended > > specifically for the hub nuts. :-) > > Very interesting, but I wish you hadn't told me. Now I'll have to get > a track bike to go with my wrench. Another fashion victim. There are programs for it, but, alas! Most people never admit they have a problem. -- Michael Press
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Date: 24 Aug 2007 17:11:32
From:
Subject: Re: Super Record crank bolts
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On Aug 24, 3:32 pm, kwhiner <kevin.b...@gmail.com > wrote: > Just bought a '78 Guerciotti, went this morning to change the 170mm > arms for some 172.5s and found the crank bolts to be an odd size, and > don't match at least in vintage for sure. Dug out the magnifying glass > and they are Campy bolts. The bolts seem to be non-metric just smaller > than 14mm. The 13 is too small 14 too big. > > Any info, suggestions, etc would be of help. > > Thanks. > > kwhiner A '78 Guerciotti? - nice bike. The steel Campy crank bolts for that era's bottom brackets require a thin wall 15mm socket - thin walled to clear the threaded well sides of the crank -- or Campy's own 15mm "peanut butter wrench" that is for this specific purpose. If you're swapping out the 170.0 mm cranks for 172.5mm cranks only because you want longer ones, I've read that many people report noticing no difference. Their 0.098 in length difference, after all, is less than an eight of an inch. A good way to inquire and find out more about your vintage bike is to join the CR Email list-- http://www.classicrendezvous.com -- and it's moderated so that, for example, the one insufferable jerk that chronically posts here would have been jerked there in a minute. -- Spike
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Date: 24 Aug 2007 21:46:15
From: John Thompson
Subject: Re: Super Record crank bolts
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On 2007-08-25, spikenettles@earthlink.net <spikenettles@earthlink.net > wrote: > A '78 Guerciotti? - nice bike. The steel Campy crank bolts for that > era's bottom brackets require a thin wall 15mm socket - thin walled to > clear the threaded well sides of the crank -- or Campy's own 15mm > "peanut butter wrench" that is for this specific purpose. Don't tell the track guys that -- they seem to think it was intended specifically for the hub nuts. :-) -- John (john@os2.dhs.org)
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Date: 29 Aug 2007 23:01:49
From: Tom \Johnny Sunset\ Sherman
Subject: Re: Super Record crank bolts
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John Thompson wrote: > On 2007-08-25, spikenettles@earthlink.net <spikenettles@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> A '78 Guerciotti? - nice bike. The steel Campy crank bolts for that >> era's bottom brackets require a thin wall 15mm socket - thin walled to >> clear the threaded well sides of the crank -- or Campy's own 15mm >> "peanut butter wrench" that is for this specific purpose. > > Don't tell the track guys that -- they seem to think it was intended > specifically for the hub nuts. :-) I carry the Park copy on my bike with the SRAM (nee Sachs) 3x7 hub for rear wheel removal. Has anyone ever actually spread peanut butter with one? -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia A Real Cyclist [TM] keeps at least one bicycle in the bedroom. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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Date: 30 Aug 2007 07:22:35
From: Tom Nakashima
Subject: Re: Super Record crank bolts
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"Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman" <sunsetss0003@iinvalid.com > wrote in message news:46d63522$0$16381$88260bb3@free.teranews.com... > > Has anyone ever actually spread peanut butter with one? > Yes I have at the Great Western Bike Rally years ago. My friend who is also a connoisseur of the older lugged steel frame bikes with Campagnolo Record components were having a bite to eat after a ride to the coast and back. He had pulled out a beachchair and was munching on some snacks, as I did the same with a jar of peanut butter, and as a joke I used the Campagnolo 15mm crank spanner to scoop out the contents. That's actually what the track riders used to do in the old days. He just shook his head, then does one better by grabbing his gold Campagnolo wine bottle opener...there nothing like a cool glass of chardonnay with peanut butter he says. -tom
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