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Date: 04 Jun 2007 16:31:10
From: g
Subject: The new Madrone
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I got an email today about the trek Madrone.
Is there a place to demo one of these bikes. I have never
ridden a carbon bike yet.
Trek should sponsor, a demo day at various locations in the SF bay area for
me to check this bike out.
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Date: 06 Jun 2007 18:09:33
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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On Jun 6, 9:15 am, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> > >Proving tourists are more savvy than are racer wannabes.
>
> > Why are you so bitter? Are you grossly fat or something?
>
> -----------
> for me, one day I woke up and realized that racing was about the most boring
> thing you could do with a bike.
!!!!BINGO!!!!
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Date: 06 Jun 2007 13:22:23
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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On Jun 6, 8:15 am, Aeek <aeeee...@tpg.com.au > wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:48:12 -0000, Ozark Bicycle
>
> <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> >On Jun 6, 6:37 am, Aeek <aeeee...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>
> >> and yet, still the TREK 520
>
> >Proving tourists are more savvy than are racer wannabes.
>
> Hey, I ride my tourer during the week and race on the weekend.
> The tourer, 2nd rebuild, is my favourite, almost 20 years of tuning.
Is your tourer a 520?
(I've spent 15+ years "tuning" my tourer, too. It's still evolving.)
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Date: 06 Jun 2007 11:48:12
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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On Jun 6, 6:37 am, Aeek <aeeee...@tpg.com.au > wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:51:30 -0500, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org>
> wrote:
>
> >The standard modern routine (not just bicycles), "The junk we palmed off
> >on you last year is obsolete. Our new new new thing _looks different_!!
>
> and yet, still the TREK 520
Proving tourists are more savvy than are racer wannabes.
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Date: 06 Jun 2007 23:15:35
From: Aeek
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:48:12 -0000, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
>On Jun 6, 6:37 am, Aeek <aeeee...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> and yet, still the TREK 520
>
>Proving tourists are more savvy than are racer wannabes.
Hey, I ride my tourer during the week and race on the weekend.
The tourer, 2nd rebuild, is my favourite, almost 20 years of tuning.
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Date: 06 Jun 2007 08:30:34
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:48:12 -0000, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
>On Jun 6, 6:37 am, Aeek <aeeee...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>> On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:51:30 -0500, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >The standard modern routine (not just bicycles), "The junk we palmed off
>> >on you last year is obsolete. Our new new new thing _looks different_!!
>>
>> and yet, still the TREK 520
>
>Proving tourists are more savvy than are racer wannabes.
Why are you so bitter? Are you grossly fat or something?
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Date: 06 Jun 2007 14:15:03
From: Callistus Valerius
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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> >Proving tourists are more savvy than are racer wannabes.
>
> Why are you so bitter? Are you grossly fat or something?
>
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for me, one day I woke up and realized that racing was about the most boring
thing you could do with a bike.
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 20:31:09
From: DirtRoadie
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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On Jun 5, 8:21 pm, carlfo...@comcast.net wrote:
> "Named for Lance Armstrong's training climb in France, the Col de la
> Madone . . ."
Yes with no "r."
Record apparently held by Tom Danielson, previously by LA and Tony
Rominger.
http://tomdanielson.com/pages/hillclimbs.htm
DR
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Date: 06 Jun 2007 02:28:18
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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On Jun 5, 9:21 pm, carlfo...@comcast.net wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:54:03 -0400, John Forrest Tomlinson
>
>
>
>
>
> <usenetrem...@jt10000.com> wrote:
> >On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:30:08 -0400, Marcus Coles <marco...@ody.ca>
> >wrote:
>
> >>"Hey Marketing, get us a name for the new bike."
>
> >>"How about Mad One"
>
> >>"No that reminds me of..."
> >>http://sheldonbrown.com/images/powhlscb.jpeg
>
> >>"Make it more exotic euro sounding"
>
> >>"How about Madone? We looked in Merriam-Webster and it wasn't there.
> >>So we can Trademark it no problem."
>
> >>"OK get the new ads and the pre-written articles to the magazines".
> >>"Sorry mate, don't mind us ..we're on a mad one"
> >>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=a+mad+one
>
> >Do you know where Trek got the name of that bike?
>
<snip smarmy opening >
> "Named for Lance Armstrong's training climb in France, the Col de la
> Madone . . ."
>
<snip smarmy closing >
If it's about Lance Armstrong, why not call it the PED?
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Date: 06 Jun 2007 06:28:31
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 02:28:18 -0000, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
>
>If it's about Lance Armstrong, why not call it the PED?
You come across as really bitter. What's your problem with Lance
Amstrong?
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Date: 06 Jun 2007 01:45:19
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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On Jun 5, 9:46 am, Todd Tracy <todd.tr...@comcast.net > wrote:
> On Jun 4, 4:31 pm, "g" <fri...@public.com> wrote:
>
> > I got an email today about the trek Madrone.
> > Is there a place to demo one of these bikes. I have never
> > ridden a carbon bike yet.
> > Trek should sponsor, a demo day at various locations in the SF bay area for
> > me to check this bike out.
>
> Zinn's review:
>
> http://www.velonews.com/tech/report/articles/12366.0.html
Pop in bearings for what crank? Bontrager only, like Cannondale?
No Campagnolo, no shimano?
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Date: 06 Jun 2007 10:20:36
From: James Thomson
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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"Qui si parla Campagnolo" <peter@vecchios.com > a écrit:
>> http://www.velonews.com/tech/report/articles/12366.0.html
> Pop in bearings for what crank? Bontrager only, like
> Cannondale? No Campagnolo, no shimano?
The article says:
"it takes integrated-spindle cranks from all major manufacturers"
James Thomson
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Date: 06 Jun 2007 02:54:30
From: Callistus Valerius
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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>
> Pop in bearings for what crank? Bontrager only, like Cannondale?
> No Campagnolo, no shimano?
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It's a brave new world, where bonty rules.
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Date: 06 Jun 2007 01:02:28
From: Victor Kan
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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On Jun 5, 4:51 pm, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org > wrote:
> is 'madrone' a word??
It's the word one might write when transcribing a Scotsman speaking
about part of his bag pipes.
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 23:56:56
From: Chalo
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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A Muzi wrote:
>
> is 'madrone' a word??
A madrone is an elegantly beautiful kind of tree. Trek's bike,
however, is a Madone-- French for Madonna.
Perhaps they're banking on a common subconscious desire to ride
Madonna?
Chalo
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 20:30:08
From: Marcus Coles
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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Chalo wrote:
> A Muzi wrote:
>> is 'madrone' a word??
>
> A madrone is an elegantly beautiful kind of tree. Trek's bike,
> however, is a Madone-- French for Madonna.
>
> Perhaps they're banking on a common subconscious desire to ride
> Madonna?
>
> Chalo
>
http://korkos.club.fr/madonesix-01grand.jpg
I'm not going to get into the connotations of the new BB shell.
"Hey Marketing, get us a name for the new bike."
"How about Mad One"
"No that reminds me of..."
http://sheldonbrown.com/images/powhlscb.jpeg
"Make it more exotic euro sounding"
"How about Madone? We looked in Merriam-Webster and it wasn't there.
So we can Trademark it no problem."
"OK get the new ads and the pre-written articles to the magazines".
"Sorry mate, don't mind us ..we're on a mad one"
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=a+mad+one
Marcus
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 20:54:03
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:30:08 -0400, Marcus Coles <marcoles@ody.ca >
wrote:
>"Hey Marketing, get us a name for the new bike."
>
>"How about Mad One"
>
>"No that reminds me of..."
>http://sheldonbrown.com/images/powhlscb.jpeg
>
>"Make it more exotic euro sounding"
>
>"How about Madone? We looked in Merriam-Webster and it wasn't there.
>So we can Trademark it no problem."
>
>"OK get the new ads and the pre-written articles to the magazines".
>"Sorry mate, don't mind us ..we're on a mad one"
>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=a+mad+one
Do you know where Trek got the name of that bike?
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 20:21:35
From:
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:54:03 -0400, John Forrest Tomlinson
<usenetremove@jt10000.com > wrote:
>On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:30:08 -0400, Marcus Coles <marcoles@ody.ca>
>wrote:
>
>
>>"Hey Marketing, get us a name for the new bike."
>>
>>"How about Mad One"
>>
>>"No that reminds me of..."
>>http://sheldonbrown.com/images/powhlscb.jpeg
>>
>>"Make it more exotic euro sounding"
>>
>>"How about Madone? We looked in Merriam-Webster and it wasn't there.
>>So we can Trademark it no problem."
>>
>>"OK get the new ads and the pre-written articles to the magazines".
>>"Sorry mate, don't mind us ..we're on a mad one"
>>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=a+mad+one
>
>
>Do you know where Trek got the name of that bike?
Dear John,
"Named for Lance Armstrong's training climb in France, the Col de la
Madone . . ."
http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2003/news/aug29
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 08 Jun 2007 03:21:04
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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In article <0g6c63hkv7l27to60obp650g0786r7t8ka@4ax.com >,
carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:54:03 -0400, John Forrest Tomlinson
> <usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:30:08 -0400, Marcus Coles <marcoles@ody.ca>
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >>"Hey Marketing, get us a name for the new bike."
> >>
> >>"How about Mad One"
> >>
> >>"No that reminds me of..."
> >>http://sheldonbrown.com/images/powhlscb.jpeg
> >>
> >>"Make it more exotic euro sounding"
> >>
> >>"How about Madone? We looked in Merriam-Webster and it wasn't there.
> >>So we can Trademark it no problem."
> >>
> >>"OK get the new ads and the pre-written articles to the magazines".
> >>"Sorry mate, don't mind us ..we're on a mad one"
> >>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=a+mad+one
> >
> >
> >Do you know where Trek got the name of that bike?
>
> Dear John,
>
> "Named for Lance Armstrong's training climb in France, the Col de la
> Madone . . ."
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2003/news/aug29
Oh, come on. Clearly a back-formation.
I've done it myself: made up a shared password at work with two parallel
mnemonics, one innocuous one which could be used in correspondence to
describe the password, and one which scandalously disparages a portion
of the client base.
Go on, it's fun!
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to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 06 Jun 2007 06:27:38
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:21:35 -0600, carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
>On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:54:03 -0400, John Forrest Tomlinson
>>Do you know where Trek got the name of that bike?
>
>Dear John,
>
>"Named for Lance Armstrong's training climb in France, the Col de la
>Madone . . ."
>
>http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2003/news/aug29
Yeah, actually I knew that but did not think the guy making jokes did
and wanted to check.
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 21:16:39
From: Marcus Coles
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> Do you know where Trek got the name of that bike?
No, but I'm open to speculation.
A town in Northern Italy?
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Date: 06 Jun 2007 06:26:44
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 21:16:39 -0400, Marcus Coles <marcoles@ody.ca >
wrote:
>John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
>
>> Do you know where Trek got the name of that bike?
>
>No, but I'm open to speculation.
>
>A town in Northern Italy?
A hill that Lance Armstrong and some other racers used for
training/testing.
http://www.frankieandreu.com/diaries/diary00-09.html
"Sunday he did a test on the Col de Madone to gauge himself. I don't
know what his time was but I only kept up for three of the seven
kilometers."
and
http://www.ownsports.net/league/cgi/route.cgi?A=S&ID=79033219
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 23:56:06
From: Chalo
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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A Muzi wrote:
>
> is 'madrone' a word??
A madrone is an elegantly beautiful kind of tree. Trek's bike,
however, is a Madone-- French for Madonna.
Perhaps they're banking on a common subconscious desire to ride
Madonna?
Chalo
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 23:36:41
From: treynolds@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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On Jun 5, 2:23 pm, "Crescentius Vespasianus" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com >
wrote:
> ------------
> the only tool you need is a hack-saw. Pop-in headsets and BB's, but you
> have to hack-saw the seat tube for fit.
Read Zinn's review.
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 15:36:41
From: g
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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I misspelled the name of the bike:
known as the "MADONE" here is a pic of the Madone:
http://www2.trekbikes.com/madone/images/madone_line_up/madone69pro.jpg
I am sorry,
here is a pic of the madrone:
http://fichas.infojardin.com/foto-arbusto/arbutus-menziesii.jpg
"g" <friend@public.com > wrote in message
news:jNSdnRX9ItJfPfnbnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@rcn.net...
>I got an email today about the trek Madrone.
> Is there a place to demo one of these bikes. I have never
> ridden a carbon bike yet.
> Trek should sponsor, a demo day at various locations in the SF bay area
> for me to check this bike out.
>
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 09:46:35
From: Todd Tracy
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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On Jun 4, 4:31 pm, "g" <fri...@public.com > wrote:
> I got an email today about the trek Madrone.
> Is there a place to demo one of these bikes. I have never
> ridden a carbon bike yet.
> Trek should sponsor, a demo day at various locations in the SF bay area for
> me to check this bike out.
Zinn's review:
http://www.velonews.com/tech/report/articles/12366.0.html
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 10:00:42
From: Tom Nakashima
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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"Todd Tracy" <todd.tracy@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:1181061995.373280.60820@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
> Zinn's review:
>
> http://www.velonews.com/tech/report/articles/12366.0.html
>
I thought it was a very good article from Zinn.
I'll never purchase one, but I'm interested to see Trek's technology of
the "pop-in" bottom bracket and headset.
-tom
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 21:23:45
From: Crescentius Vespasianus
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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> I thought it was a very good article from Zinn.
> I'll never purchase one, but I'm interested to see Trek's technology of
> the "pop-in" bottom bracket and headset.
> -tom
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the only tool you need is a hack-saw. Pop-in headsets and BB's, but you
have to hack-saw the seat tube for fit.
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 08:37:53
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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On Jun 5, 7:51 am, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> > > Geee, it looks just like a black Specialized......
>
> > You should have looked more closely:
>
> > "Everything Else Is History"
> > "Trek changes the rules again with a new benchmark for total performance."
> > "No compromises between ride quality and weight. Merge form and function.
> > Make it striking and make it beautiful."
>
> > And ... It's really similar to what Lance rode.
>
> > Oooooh! Carbon!
>
> > BobT
>
> -----------
> But the carbon will be made in China, that's what makes it better than last
> years.
Laced with antifreeze and melanine...
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 13:44:34
From: Callistus Valerius
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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> I got an email today about the trek Madrone.
> Is there a place to demo one of these bikes. I have never
> ridden a carbon bike yet.
> Trek should sponsor, a demo day at various locations in the SF bay area
for
> me to check this bike out.
>
------------
It is obvious now, that all that has come before is now obsolete.
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 05:56:30
From: Scott Gordo
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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On Jun 5, 5:30 am, Qui si parla Campagnolo <p...@vecchios.com > wrote:
> On Jun 4, 5:58 pm, "almost_f...@yahoo.com" <almost_f...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 4, 6:31 pm, "g" <fri...@public.com> wrote:
>
> > > I got an email today about the trek Madrone.
> > > Is there a place to demo one of these bikes. I have never
> > > ridden a carbon bike yet.
> > > Trek should sponsor, a demo day at various locations in the SF bay area for
> > > me to check this bike out.
>
> > I went to the new Madone web sitehttp://www2.trekbikes.com/madone/
>
> > and found the demo schedule there:http://www.ridethebesttour.com/
>
> > This is what I found under "Southwest":
> > === quote ===
> > Los Gatos Demonstration
> > Los Gatos, CA
> > Sat. Jul 14th, 2007 @ 10:00 am-Sun. Jul 15th, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
> > We are working on finalizing these dates but I will be in the Los
> > Gatos area. Check back shortly as I should have information about the
> > spectacular weekend soon.
>
> > Location:
> > Los Gatos, CA 95030
> > === end quote ===
>
> Geee, it looks just like a black Specialized......
I saw the new LeMond (natch) and Orca....
/s
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 05:30:47
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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On Jun 4, 5:58 pm, "almost_f...@yahoo.com" <almost_f...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> On Jun 4, 6:31 pm, "g" <fri...@public.com> wrote:
>
> > I got an email today about the trek Madrone.
> > Is there a place to demo one of these bikes. I have never
> > ridden a carbon bike yet.
> > Trek should sponsor, a demo day at various locations in the SF bay area for
> > me to check this bike out.
>
> I went to the new Madone web sitehttp://www2.trekbikes.com/madone/
>
> and found the demo schedule there:http://www.ridethebesttour.com/
>
> This is what I found under "Southwest":
> === quote ===
> Los Gatos Demonstration
> Los Gatos, CA
> Sat. Jul 14th, 2007 @ 10:00 am-Sun. Jul 15th, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
> We are working on finalizing these dates but I will be in the Los
> Gatos area. Check back shortly as I should have information about the
> spectacular weekend soon.
>
> Location:
> Los Gatos, CA 95030
> === end quote ===
Geee, it looks just like a black Specialized......
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 08:37:39
From: BobT
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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"Qui si parla Campagnolo" <peter@vecchios.com > wrote in message
news:1181046647.499984.250850@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 4, 5:58 pm, "almost_f...@yahoo.com" <almost_f...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> Geee, it looks just like a black Specialized......
>
You should have looked more closely:
"Everything Else Is History"
"Trek changes the rules again with a new benchmark for total performance."
"No compromises between ride quality and weight. Merge form and function.
Make it striking and make it beautiful."
And ... It's really similar to what Lance rode.
Oooooh! Carbon!
BobT
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 13:51:23
From: Callistus Valerius
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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> > Geee, it looks just like a black Specialized......
> >
> You should have looked more closely:
>
> "Everything Else Is History"
> "Trek changes the rules again with a new benchmark for total performance."
> "No compromises between ride quality and weight. Merge form and function.
> Make it striking and make it beautiful."
>
> And ... It's really similar to what Lance rode.
>
> Oooooh! Carbon!
>
> BobT
-----------
But the carbon will be made in China, that's what makes it better than last
years.
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 15:51:30
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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Peter:
>>> Geee, it looks just like a black Specialized......
Bob:
>> You should have looked more closely:
>> "Everything Else Is History"
>> "Trek changes the rules again with a new benchmark for total performance."
>> "No compromises between ride quality and weight. Merge form and function.
>> Make it striking and make it beautiful."
>> And ... It's really similar to what Lance rode.
>> Oooooh! Carbon!
Callistus Valerius wrote:
> But the carbon will be made in China, that's what makes it better than last
> years.
The standard modern routine (not just bicycles), "The junk we palmed off
on you last year is obsolete. Our new new new thing _looks different_!!
Buy one now!"
is 'madrone' a word??
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Date: 06 Jun 2007 21:37:45
From: Aeek
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:51:30 -0500, A Muzi <am@yellowjersey.org >
wrote:
>The standard modern routine (not just bicycles), "The junk we palmed off
>on you last year is obsolete. Our new new new thing _looks different_!!
and yet, still the TREK 520
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 17:22:12
From: Marcus Coles
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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A Muzi wrote:
> is 'madrone' a word??
Yes it has rapidly become a commonly used term among _retro-grouches_,
it entered the English language on June 4th, 2007 and was first used by
a person known only as "g".
It is normally used in a negative context to describe the latest new,
new, new, thing in cycling.
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 15:29:52
From: g
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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That was one of the funniest, comments.
Ok.
Your cycling friend G :)
"Marcus Coles" <marcoles@ody.ca > wrote in message
news:4665d3ac$0$8815$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>A Muzi wrote:
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>> is 'madrone' a word??
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> Yes it has rapidly become a commonly used term among _retro-grouches_, it
> entered the English language on June 4th, 2007 and was first used by a
> person known only as "g".
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> It is normally used in a negative context to describe the latest new, new,
> new, thing in cycling.
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Date: 05 Jun 2007 01:08:43
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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coming of the Sanibel Causeway, i rode past a carbon owner joyfully
waving his bike over head!
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Date: 04 Jun 2007 20:58:24
From: Mark
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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datakoll wrote:
> coming of the Sanibel Causeway, i rode past a carbon owner joyfully
> waving his bike over head!
How many pieces was it in?
Mark J.
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Date: 04 Jun 2007 16:58:41
From: almost_fast@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: The new Madrone
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On Jun 4, 6:31 pm, "g" <fri...@public.com > wrote:
> I got an email today about the trek Madrone.
> Is there a place to demo one of these bikes. I have never
> ridden a carbon bike yet.
> Trek should sponsor, a demo day at various locations in the SF bay area for
> me to check this bike out.
I went to the new Madone web site
http://www2.trekbikes.com/madone/
and found the demo schedule there:
http://www.ridethebesttour.com/
This is what I found under "Southwest":
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Los Gatos Demonstration
Los Gatos, CA
Sat. Jul 14th, 2007 @ 10:00 am-Sun. Jul 15th, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
We are working on finalizing these dates but I will be in the Los
Gatos area. Check back shortly as I should have information about the
spectacular weekend soon.
Location:
Los Gatos, CA 95030
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