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Date: 03 Aug 2007 20:01:52
From: KnowWhen2HoldemKnowWhen2Foldem
Subject: Ultegra WH-6600 (or R600) wheel bearing access
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Looks like the schematic for the Ultegra WH-6600 gives access to service
free ball bearings. I was told by my LBS, however, that these wheels have
a sealed cartridge and the entire cartridge gets replaced!$&@#. Which is
right? If the former is the case, it looks like I will need a new 20mm bike
wrench to get the inner retaining nut loose. Does anyone know if this is
correct?
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Date: 04 Aug 2007 10:02:45
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Ultegra WH-6600 (or R600) wheel bearing access
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On Aug 4, 11:17 am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Aug 4, 7:29 am, "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com"
>
> <pe...@vecchios.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 3, 6:01 pm, "KnowWhen2HoldemKnowWhen2Foldem"
>
> > <knowwhen2holdemknowwhen2fol...@NOcoxSPAM.net> wrote:
> > > Looks like the schematic for the Ultegra WH-6600 gives access to service
> > > free ball bearings. I was told by my LBS, however, that these wheels have
> > > a sealed cartridge and the entire cartridge gets replaced!$&@#. Which is
> > > right? If the former is the case, it looks like I will need a new 20mm bike
> > > wrench to get the inner retaining nut loose. Does anyone know if this is
> > > correct?
>
> > Cartridge for sdure but not 'service free'..yep, cart bearings get
> > replaced.
>
> pdf says 34 balls. pdf from Shimano also shows no cups or cones.
> Magical! Maybe they glide in some sort of energy field?
>
> http://techdocs.shimano.com/media/techdocs/content/cycle/EV/actionspo...
> orhttp://tinyurl.com/2k8udt
It's the !!!NEW!!! Shimano Cupless Coneless Hub Bearing ("SCCHB"). It
saves 24 grams per hub!
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Date: 04 Aug 2007 16:17:23
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Ultegra WH-6600 (or R600) wheel bearing access
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On Aug 4, 7:29 am, "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com"
<pe...@vecchios.com > wrote:
> On Aug 3, 6:01 pm, "KnowWhen2HoldemKnowWhen2Foldem"
>
> <knowwhen2holdemknowwhen2fol...@NOcoxSPAM.net> wrote:
> > Looks like the schematic for the Ultegra WH-6600 gives access to service
> > free ball bearings. I was told by my LBS, however, that these wheels have
> > a sealed cartridge and the entire cartridge gets replaced!$&@#. Which is
> > right? If the former is the case, it looks like I will need a new 20mm bike
> > wrench to get the inner retaining nut loose. Does anyone know if this is
> > correct?
>
> Cartridge for sdure but not 'service free'..yep, cart bearings get
> replaced.
pdf says 34 balls. pdf from Shimano also shows no cups or cones.
Magical! Maybe they glide in some sort of energy field?
http://techdocs.shimano.com/media/techdocs/content/cycle/EV/actionsports/WH/EV-WH-6600-R-2562_v1_m56577569830620991.pdf
or
http://tinyurl.com/2k8udt
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Date: 04 Aug 2007 10:40:41
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Ultegra WH-6600 (or R600) wheel bearing access
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landotter wrote:
> On Aug 4, 7:29 am, "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com"
> <pe...@vecchios.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 3, 6:01 pm, "KnowWhen2HoldemKnowWhen2Foldem"
>>
>> <knowwhen2holdemknowwhen2fol...@NOcoxSPAM.net> wrote:
>>> Looks like the schematic for the Ultegra WH-6600 gives access to service
>>> free ball bearings. I was told by my LBS, however, that these wheels have
>>> a sealed cartridge and the entire cartridge gets replaced!$&@#. Which is
>>> right? If the former is the case, it looks like I will need a new 20mm bike
>>> wrench to get the inner retaining nut loose. Does anyone know if this is
>>> correct?
>> Cartridge for sdure but not 'service free'..yep, cart bearings get
>> replaced.
>
>
> pdf says 34 balls. pdf from Shimano also shows no cups or cones.
yes it does - they're referred to as the "lock nut unit".
> Magical! Maybe they glide in some sort of energy field?
>
> http://techdocs.shimano.com/media/techdocs/content/cycle/EV/actionsports/WH/EV-WH-6600-R-2562_v1_m56577569830620991.pdf
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/2k8udt
>
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Date: 04 Aug 2007 12:29:27
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com
Subject: Re: Ultegra WH-6600 (or R600) wheel bearing access
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On Aug 3, 6:01 pm, "KnowWhen2HoldemKnowWhen2Foldem"
<knowwhen2holdemknowwhen2fol...@NOcoxSPAM.net > wrote:
> Looks like the schematic for the Ultegra WH-6600 gives access to service
> free ball bearings. I was told by my LBS, however, that these wheels have
> a sealed cartridge and the entire cartridge gets replaced!$&@#. Which is
> right? If the former is the case, it looks like I will need a new 20mm bike
> wrench to get the inner retaining nut loose. Does anyone know if this is
> correct?
Cartridge for sdure but not 'service free'..yep, cart bearings get
replaced.
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 00:54:14
From: KnowWhen2HoldemKnowWhen2Foldem
Subject: Re: Ultegra WH-6600 (or R600) wheel bearing access
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If you look at the schematic it is not clear what the bearings ride on. Is
it their own cartridge? If so, do I just buy the cartridges and then do the
lock nut adjustment as I would on the old cup and cone? Also, are the
cartridges available usually at well stocked LBS ?
"Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <peter@vecchios.com > wrote in
message news:1186230567.910343.29740@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 3, 6:01 pm, "KnowWhen2HoldemKnowWhen2Foldem"
> <knowwhen2holdemknowwhen2fol...@NOcoxSPAM.net> wrote:
>> Looks like the schematic for the Ultegra WH-6600 gives access to service
>> free ball bearings. I was told by my LBS, however, that these wheels
>> have
>> a sealed cartridge and the entire cartridge gets replaced!$&@#. Which is
>> right? If the former is the case, it looks like I will need a new 20mm
>> bike
>> wrench to get the inner retaining nut loose. Does anyone know if this is
>> correct?
>
> Cartridge for sdure but not 'service free'..yep, cart bearings get
> replaced.
>
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 00:22:36
From: John Dacey
Subject: Re: Ultegra WH-6600 (or R600) wheel bearing access
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"Veritas visu et mora, falsa festinatione et incertis valescunt." -
Tacitus
On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 00:54:14 -0400, "KnowWhen2HoldemKnowWhen2Foldem"
<knowwhen2holdemknowwhen2foldem@NOcoxSPAM.net > wrote:
>If you look at the schematic it is not clear what the bearings ride on.
For anyone familiar with servicing Shimano products, the cones on
which the conventional bearing balls (seventeen 5/32" balls in each
cup) orbit are conspicuous. The right cone is located on the axle
where the enclosed numeral "5" on the service diagram points. The left
cone is integrated with the inner part of the "left hand lock nut
unit" (number 7 on the diagram) as noted by mr beam earlier in the
thread.
> Is
>it their own cartridge? If so, do I just buy the cartridges and then do the
>lock nut adjustment as I would on the old cup and cone? Also, are the
>cartridges available usually at well stocked LBS ?
>
>"Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <peter@vecchios.com> wrote in
>> Cartridge for sdure but not 'service free'..yep, cart bearings get
>> replaced.
>>
>
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Date: 03 Aug 2007 19:01:58
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Ultegra WH-6600 (or R600) wheel bearing access
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KnowWhen2HoldemKnowWhen2Foldem wrote:
> Looks like the schematic for the Ultegra WH-6600 gives access to service
> free ball bearings. I was told by my LBS, however, that these wheels have
> a sealed cartridge and the entire cartridge gets replaced!$&@#. Which is
> right? If the former is the case, it looks like I will need a new 20mm bike
> wrench to get the inner retaining nut loose. Does anyone know if this is
> correct?
>
>
>
why would you doubt the shimano service diagrams??? they made the
thing, not the sales jockey at the shop.
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