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Date: 05 Aug 2007 15:47:16
From: Steve Kirkendall
Subject: What's the best way to cut cable?
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What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
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Date: 08 Aug 2007 22:33:53
From: Paul Kopit
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 15:47:16 -0700, Steve Kirkendall
<skirkendall@dsl-only.net > wrote:
>What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
>otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
>a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
>in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
>always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
I heat the end of the cable with one of those torch type cigarette
lighters and then melt some plastic onto the cable. You have to use a
thermoplastic type plastic like polyethylene. I use the top of an old
water bottle.
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Date: 08 Aug 2007 18:31:11
From: Pete Grey
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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Get a really nice diagonal cable cutter, like the Park CN-10 or the similar
Felco.
These cut the cable from all sides and nearly always produce a nice clean
cable that you can thread through the housing.
-pete
"Paul Kopit" <pkopit@att.net > wrote in message
news:c5hkb3t3frjjmt3jtvqkj21btkr5ghkpee@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 15:47:16 -0700, Steve Kirkendall
> <skirkendall@dsl-only.net> wrote:
>
>>What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
>>otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
>>a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
>>in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
>>always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
>
> I heat the end of the cable with one of those torch type cigarette
> lighters and then melt some plastic onto the cable. You have to use a
> thermoplastic type plastic like polyethylene. I use the top of an old
> water bottle.
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 22:51:36
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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On Aug 6, 1:52 pm, John Everett
<jevere...@sbcglobal.DEFEAT.UCE.BOTS.net > wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 15:47:16 -0700, Steve Kirkendall
>
> <skirkend...@dsl-only.net> wrote:
> >What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
> >otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
> >a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
> >in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
> >always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
>
> Here's something I posted in 1996. :-)
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread...
>
> orhttp://tinyurl.com/34k29x
>
> --
> jeverett3<AT>sbcglobal<DOT>net (John V. Everett)
A dremel or head grinder doesn't throw off cable/housing material in
rotation direction?
that's the idea behind the 11 pound hammer on the $2 diagnols head:
happens faster than the material's ability to react kind like a good
surgeon.
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 22:34:53
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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KNIPEX! OUTSTANDING.
so far i have a leatherman, 11 screwdrivers, 12 sockets, and a
lineman's plier at $45!
keep your eyes on the road...
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 13:44:49
From: G.T.
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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"Steve Kirkendall" <skirkendall@dsl-only.net > wrote in message
news:13bckpfn2f6r907@corp.supernews.com...
> What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
> otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
> a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
> in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
> always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
Cheap diagonal cutters for both housing and wire, and an ice pick to fix the
ends of the housing.
Greg
--
Ticketmaster and Ticketweb suck, but everyone knows that:
http://ticketmastersucks.org
"Ya gotta stop riding the brakes,
ya gotta stop robbing the cradle" - Chris D
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 17:52:19
From: John Everett
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 15:47:16 -0700, Steve Kirkendall
<skirkendall@dsl-only.net > wrote:
>What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
>otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
>a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
>in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
>always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
Here's something I posted in 1996. :-)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/f63f33e8ac57cacb/95ccbd0082a66876?lnk=st&q=dremel&rnum=14#95ccbd0082a66876
or http://tinyurl.com/34k29x
--
jeverett3<AT >sbcglobal<DOT>net (John V. Everett)
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 08:52:59
From:
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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On Aug 6, 10:33 am, RonSonic <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com > wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 17:41:54 -0700, SocSecTrainWr...@earthlink.net wrote:
> >On Aug 5, 5:47 pm, Steve Kirkendall <skirkend...@dsl-only.net> wrote:
> >> What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
> >> otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
> >> a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
> >> in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
> >> always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
>
> >I don't have the Park cable cutters but I do have a Dremel with a cut-
> >off wheel. It goes through housing or cable like butter. It's just
> >more of a pita to use then picking up a pair of cutters- get the
> >Dremel out, probably change collets, put on a new disk because the
> >last one has always broken, find a place where you won't start a fire
> >with the sparks, get eye protection, plug it in (usually have to get
> >an extension cord) and then cut.
>
> I neglect most of your precautions but don't use the cutoff wheel on the cable
> itself, there is a nontrivial possibility of the wheel causing the strands to
> seperate and snarl most spectacularly.
Hold the cable gently near the cut with a pair of pliers, the strands
won't separate.
Have you ever been nicked by a shattering cut-off disk? I hear that
they make some that are reinforced but the ones I have always used
will shatter easily with the slightest lateral force. I REALLY
recommend the eye protection.
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 12:43:43
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:52:59 -0700, SocSecTrainWreck@earthlink.net wrote:
>On Aug 6, 10:33 am, RonSonic <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 17:41:54 -0700, SocSecTrainWr...@earthlink.net wrote:
>> >On Aug 5, 5:47 pm, Steve Kirkendall <skirkend...@dsl-only.net> wrote:
>> >> What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
>> >> otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
>> >> a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
>> >> in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
>> >> always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
>>
>> >I don't have the Park cable cutters but I do have a Dremel with a cut-
>> >off wheel. It goes through housing or cable like butter. It's just
>> >more of a pita to use then picking up a pair of cutters- get the
>> >Dremel out, probably change collets, put on a new disk because the
>> >last one has always broken, find a place where you won't start a fire
>> >with the sparks, get eye protection, plug it in (usually have to get
>> >an extension cord) and then cut.
>>
>> I neglect most of your precautions but don't use the cutoff wheel on the cable
>> itself, there is a nontrivial possibility of the wheel causing the strands to
>> seperate and snarl most spectacularly.
>
>Hold the cable gently near the cut with a pair of pliers, the strands
>won't separate.
>
>Have you ever been nicked by a shattering cut-off disk? I hear that
>they make some that are reinforced but the ones I have always used
>will shatter easily with the slightest lateral force. I REALLY
>recommend the eye protection.
The eye protection's the precaution I don't skip. I'll use both the fiber
reinforced discs and the little ones that test your deft. About the first 8 of
those things I went through I thought were a sick joke before acquiring the
knack.
Ron
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Date: 07 Aug 2007 00:35:17
From: still me
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 12:43:43 -0400, RonSonic
<ronsonic@tampabay.rr.com > wrote:
>The eye protection's the precaution I don't skip. I'll use both the fiber
>reinforced discs and the little ones that test your deft. About the first 8 of
>those things I went through I thought were a sick joke before acquiring the
>knack.
Yeah, I developed the knack too.
Now I rarely break them when cutting, I break them when I put the tool
down somewhere and then bump it. Back in the drawer where I carefully
keep all my dremel stuff is my favorite place to break them; but I
also do it at the job site when necessary.
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 09:22:20
From: !Jones
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 15:47:16 -0700, in rec.bicycles.tech Steve
Kirkendall <skirkendall@dsl-only.net > wrote:
>What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
>otherwise mangling the ends?
If you have a Dremmel tool, I have found that I get a better cut with
an abrasive wheel than with anything else. I took an aluminum block,
drilled a hole through it and slotted it as a fixture to hold the
cable... but a piece of housing in a vice also works.
Jones
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 14:05:16
From: landotter
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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On Aug 6, 8:37 am, "HyperCube33 \(Life2Death\)"
<hypercube[11x3]@hotmail.com > wrote:
> "datakoll" <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1186359378.927374.293120@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com...> NOT AGAIN!
>
> > one walmart $2 diagnol cutter
> > one 11 pound engineer's hammer $11 howe depot or to taste.
> > one hardwood block selvedge from Senor Skid
> > one set safety glasses
> > common sense.
>
> > place cable or housing or both together as installed.
> > place on hardwood block with cutters miunted at cut point
> > hold cutter handle securely and tightly on cable/housing or seperately
> > slam with hammer.
> > aso always, the process facilitates when the cutters are sharp.
>
> WTF I'm using those same wallyworld cutters and don't need a hammer. I get
> clean cuts, so screw it. Now as for finishing the cable off so it doesn't
> fray afterwards...
http://tinyurl.com/2k3g4p
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 13:58:48
From: landotter
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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On Aug 5, 7:22 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net > wrote:
> datakoll wrote:
> > NOT AGAIN!
>
> > one walmart $2 diagnol cutter
> > one 11 pound engineer's hammer $11 howe depot or to taste.
> > one hardwood block selvedge from Senor Skid
> > one set safety glasses
> > common sense.
>
> > place cable or housing or both together as installed.
> > place on hardwood block with cutters miunted at cut point
> > hold cutter handle securely and tightly on cable/housing or seperately
> > slam with hammer.
> > aso always, the process facilitates when the cutters are sharp.
>
> goddamned hillbilly.
I used to use that method, it's gives a very clean cut actually. Nice
and brutal--safety glasses are essential.
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 08:19:44
From: Tim McNamara
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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In article <13bckpfn2f6r907@corp.supernews.com >,
Steve Kirkendall <skirkendall@dsl-only.net > wrote:
> What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
> otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and a
> screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it in
> various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
> always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
Use an actual stranded cable cutter rather than the things you have
used. Note the "square" cutting jaws:
http://www.felcostore.com/wirecablecutters.jsp (F-C7)
http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/11923-325_PARC12-2-Accessories-42-Tools/
Park-CN-10-Cable-Cutters.htm
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 12:20:59
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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http://www.bctrail.ca/maps.html
have you tried an upholstrey foam block with or without a dab of
thinner for cleaning cassettes, deray pulleys, CR's?
beam, i apologize: i mixed your post with uh Sunset's.
Frooodian slop.
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 03:34:33
From: lightninglad
Subject: Cutting cable - 'Dremel' high speed
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On Aug 5, 3:47 pm, Steve Kirkendall <skirkend...@dsl-only.net > wrote:
> What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
> otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
> a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
> in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
> always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
I use a 'Dremel' high speed carving tool with a miniature cutoff
wheel.
I happen to have one and it cuts a cable or housing absolutely square.
It probably does a better job than any 'cutter' because it doesn't
exert any pressure on the housing - just cuts it like butter and
leaves the end flat without any bevel at all.
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 08:43:27
From: HyperCube33 \(Life2Death\)
Subject: Re: Cutting cable - 'Dremel' high speed
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"lightninglad" <wordy@internode.on.net > wrote in message
news:1186396473.581300.300800@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 5, 3:47 pm, Steve Kirkendall <skirkend...@dsl-only.net> wrote:
>> What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
>> otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
>> a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
>> in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
>> always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
>
> I use a 'Dremel' high speed carving tool with a miniature cutoff
> wheel.
> I happen to have one and it cuts a cable or housing absolutely square.
> It probably does a better job than any 'cutter' because it doesn't
> exert any pressure on the housing - just cuts it like butter and
> leaves the end flat without any bevel at all.
>
>
>
>
Pictures of you cutting it with said dremal or it didnt happen. Watch the
fingers!
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 06:08:45
From: bdbafh
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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On Aug 5, 8:16 pm, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> NOT AGAIN!
>
> one walmart $2 diagnol cutter
> one 11 pound engineer's hammer $11 howe depot or to taste.
> one hardwood block selvedge from Senor Skid
> one set safety glasses
> common sense.
>
> place cable or housing or both together as installed.
> place on hardwood block with cutters miunted at cut point
> hold cutter handle securely and tightly on cable/housing or seperately
> slam with hammer.
> aso always, the process facilitates when the cutters are sharp.
Can you not cipher either there, Jethro?
You're an incomprehensible twit, capable of spewing only gibberish.
Less posts, more quality.
Your "common sense" isn't resulting in anything other than garbage,
dude.
If your native language isn't Ingrish, I could see cutting you a
break, but based upon the volume/frequency of your crap ... that isn't
deserved in your case.
Learn to swim.
-bdbafh
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 08:23:11
From: Tim McNamara
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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In article <1186380525.131054.324440@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com >,
bdbafh <bdbafh@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Aug 5, 8:16 pm, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > NOT AGAIN!
> >
> > one walmart $2 diagnol cutter
> > one 11 pound engineer's hammer $11 howe depot or to taste.
> > one hardwood block selvedge from Senor Skid
> > one set safety glasses
> > common sense.
> >
> > place cable or housing or both together as installed.
> > place on hardwood block with cutters miunted at cut point
> > hold cutter handle securely and tightly on cable/housing or seperately
> > slam with hammer.
> > aso always, the process facilitates when the cutters are sharp.
>
> Can you not cipher either there, Jethro?
> You're an incomprehensible twit, capable of spewing only gibberish.
> Less posts, more quality.
>
> Your "common sense" isn't resulting in anything other than garbage,
> dude.
> If your native language isn't Ingrish, I could see cutting you a
> break, but based upon the volume/frequency of your crap ... that isn't
> deserved in your case.
>
> Learn to swim.
He's more entertaining than you. Your post has less content than
datakoll's. Plus, Gene "datakoll" has been posting around here for a
long time. We've grown accustomed to him.
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 22:40:21
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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In article <13bckpfn2f6r907@corp.supernews.com >,
Steve Kirkendall <skirkendall@dsl-only.net > wrote:
> What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
> otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
> a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
> in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
> always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
I do not cut it. The excess I wrap around itself into a
quoit. Problem solved.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 22:31:44
From: RS
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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In article <13bckpfn2f6r907@corp.supernews.com >, skirkendall@dsl
-only.net says...
>
>
>What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
>otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
>a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
>in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
>always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
I use a Shimano cable cutter, works every time.
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 02:36:34
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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On Aug 5, 8:41 pm, SocSecTrainWr...@earthlink.net wrote:
> On Aug 5, 5:47 pm, Steve Kirkendall <skirkend...@dsl-only.net> wrote:
>
> > What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
> > otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
> > a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
> > in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
> > always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
>
> I don't have the Park cable cutters but I do have a Dremel with a cut-
> off wheel. It goes through housing or cable like butter. It's just
> more of a pita to use then picking up a pair of cutters- get the
> Dremel out, probably change collets, put on a new disk because the
> last one has always broken, find a place where you won't start a fire
> with the sparks, get eye protection, plug it in (usually have to get
> an extension cord) and then cut.
OR YOU COULD TAKE AN AX AND CHOP AT BEAM'S ONE FOOT
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 19:49:20
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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datakoll wrote:
> On Aug 5, 8:41 pm, SocSecTrainWr...@earthlink.net wrote:
>> On Aug 5, 5:47 pm, Steve Kirkendall <skirkend...@dsl-only.net> wrote:
>>
>>> What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
>>> otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
>>> a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
>>> in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
>>> always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
>> I don't have the Park cable cutters but I do have a Dremel with a cut-
>> off wheel. It goes through housing or cable like butter. It's just
>> more of a pita to use then picking up a pair of cutters- get the
>> Dremel out, probably change collets, put on a new disk because the
>> last one has always broken, find a place where you won't start a fire
>> with the sparks, get eye protection, plug it in (usually have to get
>> an extension cord) and then cut.
>
> OR YOU COULD TAKE AN AX AND CHOP AT BEAM'S ONE FOOT
>
gene, not all of use ride woolmort-quality machinery. some of us even
live in hilly areas where downhill speeds are enough to get you
extensively flayed if you take a spill. on that basis therefore,
forgive us if we want quality work done on quality machines with quality
tools. i mean, we could all use wooden wheels and chicken livers with
spit for bearing lube, but since better alternatives exist, and they're
not expensive, why not use them? i paid $10 for my cutters on sale.
and they're the best damned thing out there apart from the "genuine"
article they copy.
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 17:41:54
From:
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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On Aug 5, 5:47 pm, Steve Kirkendall <skirkend...@dsl-only.net > wrote:
> What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
> otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
> a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
> in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
> always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
I don't have the Park cable cutters but I do have a Dremel with a cut-
off wheel. It goes through housing or cable like butter. It's just
more of a pita to use then picking up a pair of cutters- get the
Dremel out, probably change collets, put on a new disk because the
last one has always broken, find a place where you won't start a fire
with the sparks, get eye protection, plug it in (usually have to get
an extension cord) and then cut.
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 10:33:54
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 17:41:54 -0700, SocSecTrainWreck@earthlink.net wrote:
>On Aug 5, 5:47 pm, Steve Kirkendall <skirkend...@dsl-only.net> wrote:
>> What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
>> otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
>> a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
>> in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
>> always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
>
>I don't have the Park cable cutters but I do have a Dremel with a cut-
>off wheel. It goes through housing or cable like butter. It's just
>more of a pita to use then picking up a pair of cutters- get the
>Dremel out, probably change collets, put on a new disk because the
>last one has always broken, find a place where you won't start a fire
>with the sparks, get eye protection, plug it in (usually have to get
>an extension cord) and then cut.
I neglect most of your precautions but don't use the cutoff wheel on the cable
itself, there is a nontrivial possibility of the wheel causing the strands to
seperate and snarl most spectacularly.
Ron
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 17:29:20
From: Sandy
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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Dans le message de news:b7ceb3t1kvottk2650c0p9j46eslnomoaa@4ax.com,
RonSonic <ronsonic@tampabay.rr.com > a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
> On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 17:41:54 -0700, SocSecTrainWreck@earthlink.net
> wrote:
>
>> On Aug 5, 5:47 pm, Steve Kirkendall <skirkend...@dsl-only.net> wrote:
>>> What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
>>> otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
>>> a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
>>> in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
>>> always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
>>
>> I don't have the Park cable cutters but I do have a Dremel with a
>> cut- off wheel. It goes through housing or cable like butter. It's
>> just more of a pita to use then picking up a pair of cutters- get the
>> Dremel out, probably change collets, put on a new disk because the
>> last one has always broken, find a place where you won't start a fire
>> with the sparks, get eye protection, plug it in (usually have to get
>> an extension cord) and then cut.
>
> I neglect most of your precautions but don't use the cutoff wheel on
> the cable itself, there is a nontrivial possibility of the wheel
> causing the strands to seperate and snarl most spectacularly.
>
> Ron
You can cut the cable without that worry if you saved scrap housing, and cut
it while it's inside. Cutting housing without all that machinery: put in
some scrap cable to the point you want to cut, as it keeps the housing from
squashing. No need for an occasional user to have a couple hundred dollars
of machinery to do something you do every few years.
And for the cable ends, I like superglue.
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 17:25:07
From: Donga
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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On Aug 6, 10:16 am, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> NOT AGAIN!
>
> one walmart $2 diagnol cutter
> one 11 pound engineer's hammer $11 howe depot or to taste.
> one hardwood block selvedge from Senor Skid
> one set safety glasses
> common sense.
>
> place cable or housing or both together as installed.
> place on hardwood block with cutters miunted at cut point
> hold cutter handle securely and tightly on cable/housing or seperately
> slam with hammer.
> aso always, the process facilitates when the cutters are sharp.
hehe, do you need to spend the $2 for each cable?
I have no problems using diagonal cutters of middling quality in a
home workshop - the housing might need minor squeezing into shape with
pliers, and filing. Cable cutters would be classy, but that's
perfectly good beer money.
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 01:04:42
From: still me
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 17:25:07 -0700, Donga
<idomybestworkonabike@hotmail.com > wrote:
>hehe, do you need to spend the $2 for each cable?
>
>I have no problems using diagonal cutters of middling quality in a
>home workshop - the housing might need minor squeezing into shape with
>pliers, and filing. Cable cutters would be classy, but that's
>perfectly good beer money.
I use a large and sharp pair of line cutters. I emphasize large and
sharp. I don't cut enough cable to splurge for a cable cutter. For
housings I use a the same cutter, carefully separating the steel so
that I don't squash it and then hitting the grinder to clean it up.
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 10:29:42
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 01:04:42 GMT, still me <wheeledBob@yahoo.com > wrote:
>On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 17:25:07 -0700, Donga
><idomybestworkonabike@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>hehe, do you need to spend the $2 for each cable?
>>
>>I have no problems using diagonal cutters of middling quality in a
>>home workshop - the housing might need minor squeezing into shape with
>>pliers, and filing. Cable cutters would be classy, but that's
>>perfectly good beer money.
>
>I use a large and sharp pair of line cutters. I emphasize large and
>sharp. I don't cut enough cable to splurge for a cable cutter. For
>housings I use a the same cutter, carefully separating the steel so
>that I don't squash it and then hitting the grinder to clean it up.
Same drill here, except I use a Dremel and cutoff wheel for the shifter housing.
I don't want to damage what little structure there is in those things.
Ron
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 00:16:18
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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NOT AGAIN!
one walmart $2 diagnol cutter
one 11 pound engineer's hammer $11 howe depot or to taste.
one hardwood block selvedge from Senor Skid
one set safety glasses
common sense.
place cable or housing or both together as installed.
place on hardwood block with cutters miunted at cut point
hold cutter handle securely and tightly on cable/housing or seperately
slam with hammer.
aso always, the process facilitates when the cutters are sharp.
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 08:37:01
From: HyperCube33 \(Life2Death\)
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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"datakoll" <datakoll@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1186359378.927374.293120@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> NOT AGAIN!
>
> one walmart $2 diagnol cutter
> one 11 pound engineer's hammer $11 howe depot or to taste.
> one hardwood block selvedge from Senor Skid
> one set safety glasses
> common sense.
>
> place cable or housing or both together as installed.
> place on hardwood block with cutters miunted at cut point
> hold cutter handle securely and tightly on cable/housing or seperately
> slam with hammer.
> aso always, the process facilitates when the cutters are sharp.
>
>
WTF I'm using those same wallyworld cutters and don't need a hammer. I get
clean cuts, so screw it. Now as for finishing the cable off so it doesn't
fray afterwards...
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 03:08:41
From: RBrickston
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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In article <1186359378.927374.293120@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com >,
datakoll@yahoo.com says...
> NOT AGAIN!
>
> one walmart $2 diagnol cutter
> one 11 pound engineer's hammer $11 howe depot or to taste.
> one hardwood block selvedge from Senor Skid
> one set safety glasses
> common sense.
>
> place cable or housing or both together as installed.
> place on hardwood block with cutters miunted at cut point
> hold cutter handle securely and tightly on cable/housing or seperately
> slam with hammer.
> aso always, the process facilitates when the cutters are sharp.
>
That's all wrong. Take it to an industrial laser cutting shop. Probably
$800 or so, but think if the savings if you have several cables done at
once.
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 20:22:43
From: Tom \Johnny Sunset\ Sherman
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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datakoll aka gene daniels wrote:
> NOT AGAIN!
>
> one walmart $2 diagnol cutter
> one 11 pound engineer's hammer $11 howe depot or to taste.
> one hardwood block selvedge from Senor Skid
> one set safety glasses
> common sense....
gene, gene, gene!
You can not expect rec.bicycles.* regulars to have common sense!
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 19:09:48
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman wrote:
> datakoll aka gene daniels wrote:
>> NOT AGAIN!
>>
>> one walmart $2 diagnol cutter
>> one 11 pound engineer's hammer $11 howe depot or to taste.
>> one hardwood block selvedge from Senor Skid
>> one set safety glasses
>> common sense....
>
> gene, gene, gene!
>
> You can not expect rec.bicycles.* regulars to have common sense!
>
nor exhaust-sucking bent riders - high CO concentrations seem to create
wild uncontrollable urges to red-herring themselves into contradicting
their own arguments.
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 17:22:08
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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datakoll wrote:
> NOT AGAIN!
>
> one walmart $2 diagnol cutter
> one 11 pound engineer's hammer $11 howe depot or to taste.
> one hardwood block selvedge from Senor Skid
> one set safety glasses
> common sense.
>
> place cable or housing or both together as installed.
> place on hardwood block with cutters miunted at cut point
> hold cutter handle securely and tightly on cable/housing or seperately
> slam with hammer.
> aso always, the process facilitates when the cutters are sharp.
>
>
goddamned hillbilly.
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 06:08:06
From: Tom \Johnny Sunset\ Sherman
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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"jim beam" wrote:
> datakoll wrote:
>> NOT AGAIN!
>>
>> one walmart $2 diagnol cutter
>> one 11 pound engineer's hammer $11 howe depot or to taste.
>> one hardwood block selvedge from Senor Skid
>> one set safety glasses
>> common sense.
>>
>> place cable or housing or both together as installed.
>> place on hardwood block with cutters miunted at cut point
>> hold cutter handle securely and tightly on cable/housing or seperately
>> slam with hammer.
>> aso always, the process facilitates when the cutters are sharp.
>>
>>
>
> goddamned hillbilly.
I found gene's response to be quite humorous. ;)
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 16:50:39
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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Steve Kirkendall wrote:
> What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
> otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
> a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
> in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
> always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
the best way? with one of these:
http://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?page=8&description=Cable+Cutters&vendorCode=PEDROS&major=6&minor=6
it out-performs side cutters and that park tool stuff. it's a copy of a
$70 knipex, probably the best cable cutter ever - and even though it's a
copy, the quality is pretty darned good!
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 12:34:18
From: futrino
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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jim beam wrote:
> Steve Kirkendall wrote:
>
>> What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
>> otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
>> a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
>> in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
>> always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
>
>
> the best way? with one of these:
>
> http://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?page=8&description=Cable+Cutters&vendorCode=PEDROS&major=6&minor=6
>
>
> it out-performs side cutters and that park tool stuff. it's a copy of a
> $70 knipex, probably the best cable cutter ever - and even though it's a
> copy, the quality is pretty darned good!
Wow, I found some of these knipex on the side of the road, I had no
Idea they were $70, I have the park cable cutters and they are very
similar.
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 20:03:45
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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futrino wrote:
>
>
> jim beam wrote:
>> Steve Kirkendall wrote:
>>
>>> What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
>>> otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
>>> a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
>>> in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
>>> always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
>>
>>
>> the best way? with one of these:
>>
>> http://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?page=8&description=Cable+Cutters&vendorCode=PEDROS&major=6&minor=6
>>
>>
>> it out-performs side cutters and that park tool stuff. it's a copy of
>> a $70 knipex, probably the best cable cutter ever - and even though
>> it's a copy, the quality is pretty darned good!
>
> Wow, I found some of these knipex on the side of the road, I had no
> Idea they were $70, I have the park cable cutters and they are very
> similar.
>
similar shape maybe, but not construction or metal. park are one-piece
heat treated steel - not as good because they don't keep an edge as well
and are much heavier. the knipex approach is much better - lightweight
handles with separate tool steel blades that both take and keep an edge.
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 18:23:32
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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Steve Kirkendall wrote:
> What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
> otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
> a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
> in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
> always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
Get a real cable cutter. The edges cut in a diamond shape.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 16:15:21
From:
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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On Aug 5, 7:11 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com >
wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 15:47:16 -0700, Steve Kirkendall
>
> <skirkend...@dsl-only.net> wrote:
> >What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
> >otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
> >a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
> >in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
> >always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
>
> I use a $25 specialty bike cable cutter, by Park Tools I think, that
> works well.
>
> If the cutter you are using isn't working well, one way to help it is
> to cut the cable within a short piece of housing, which helps prevent
> it from fraying while being cut.
> --
> JT
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yeah, just splurge and buy the right tool for the right job- I bought
the park cutter ages ago and haven't had an issue with cutting cables
or housing- nice quick clean cuts
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 19:11:49
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 15:47:16 -0700, Steve Kirkendall
<skirkendall@dsl-only.net > wrote:
>What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
>otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
>a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
>in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
>always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
I use a $25 specialty bike cable cutter, by Park Tools I think, that
works well.
If the cutter you are using isn't working well, one way to help it is
to cut the cable within a short piece of housing, which helps prevent
it from fraying while being cut.
--
JT
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Visit http://www.jt10000.com
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 22:56:25
From: landotter
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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On Aug 5, 5:47 pm, Steve Kirkendall <skirkend...@dsl-only.net > wrote:
> What's the best way to cut brake & shifter cables without fraying or
> otherwise mangling the ends? I've tried wire cutters, hacksaw, and
> a screw cutter. I've tried epoxying the cable first, or wrapping it
> in various kinds of tape. Nothing works as well as I'd like; it's
> always hard to fit the cable back into the housing.
A cable cutter works best. I get good results with the cutting bit of
a pair of needle nose pliers--but it requires a pretty meaty squeeze.
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 15:54:58
From: JG
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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Cable cutters, that is wire cutters with blades that wrap around the
circumference of the cable work fine. You might also try putting some
1/16" heat shrink tubing around the end first, then cutting.
JG
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 07:40:02
From: Tosspot
Subject: Re: What's the best way to cut cable?
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JG wrote:
> Cable cutters, that is wire cutters with blades that wrap around the
> circumference of the cable work fine. You might also try putting some
> 1/16" heat shrink tubing around the end first, then cutting.
It's the small things on r.b.t that get you. What a brilliant idea and
I can't think why my Einsteinian level of genius didn't think of it.
Errmmm, perhaps because I haven't got one?
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