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Date: 12 Nov 2007 15:57:43
From: mtb Dad
Subject: fendrs and rack with discs?
Thinking of this model bike for my son, but not sure if fenders and
racks are compatible with frames mounted with disc brakes. Anyone
know?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290174790813&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting

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Date: 14 Nov 2007 23:06:39
From: Sir Ridesalot
Subject: Re: fendrs and rack with discs?
On Nov 14, 9:58 am, mtb Dad <listerfar...@telus.net > wrote:
> On Nov 12, 4:14 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > mtb Dad wrote:
> > > Thinking of this model bike for my son, but not sure if fenders and
> > > racks are compatible with frames mounted with disc brakes. Anyone
> > > know?
>
> > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290174790813&index...
>
> > Much more trouble than it's worth. If you're on a budget and handy
> > check out the $500 Motobecane Fantom CX at bikesdirect.com. Linear
> > pull brakes, which work just fine, takes standard racks and fender.
> > They also have an OK touring bike, the Windsor Touring for $600, also
> > takes standard racks and fenders.
>
> > I speak from experience--you can certainly put racks and fenders on a
> > disc bike--but you're going to have to spend much more to get a good
> > strong rack--the cheap disc ones are terrible, and if you want real
> > full coverage fenders, you'll also spend way way more, or have to bend
> > your own custom struts.
>
> > Also, if he's using this for utility, disc brakes attract thieves.
> > When I had a Brodie Energy last year, set up with an awful Axiom rack--
> > even it attracted attention and admiring glances, while my current
> > hybrid with fenders and racks flies under the radar--while still being
> > handsome. It's definitely a real problem to think about. I sold my
> > Brodie, as the rack/brake issues weren't worth the hassle.
>
> Thanks. Looks good. Now I just have to figure out how to get one
> into Canada without huge brokerage fees from UPS; USPS apparently
> won't carry a bike box.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Hi there.

Recently Fed Ex charged me $50+ Canadian to bring a used bicycle sold
by a private citizen to me from the US. I do not know if that is
cheaper than UPS.

Cheers from Peter


 
Date: 14 Nov 2007 15:50:35
From: landotter
Subject: Re: fendrs and rack with discs?
On Nov 14, 5:36 pm, mtb Dad <listerfar...@telus.net > wrote:
> On Nov 14, 12:13 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 14, 8:58 am, mtb Dad <listerfar...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 12, 4:14 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > mtb Dad wrote:
> > > > > Thinking of this model bike for my son, but not sure if fenders and
> > > > > racks are compatible with frames mounted with disc brakes. Anyone
> > > > > know?
>
> > > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290174790813&index...
>
> > > > Much more trouble than it's worth. If you're on a budget and handy
> > > > check out the $500 Motobecane Fantom CX at bikesdirect.com. Linear
> > > > pull brakes, which work just fine, takes standard racks and fender.
> > > > They also have an OK touring bike, the Windsor Touring for $600, also
> > > > takes standard racks and fenders.
>
> > > > I speak from experience--you can certainly put racks and fenders on a
> > > > disc bike--but you're going to have to spend much more to get a good
> > > > strong rack--the cheap disc ones are terrible, and if you want real
> > > > full coverage fenders, you'll also spend way way more, or have to bend
> > > > your own custom struts.
>
> > > > Also, if he's using this for utility, disc brakes attract thieves.
> > > > When I had a Brodie Energy last year, set up with an awful Axiom rack--
> > > > even it attracted attention and admiring glances, while my current
> > > > hybrid with fenders and racks flies under the radar--while still being
> > > > handsome. It's definitely a real problem to think about. I sold my
> > > > Brodie, as the rack/brake issues weren't worth the hassle.
>
> > > Thanks. Looks good. Now I just have to figure out how to get one
> > > into Canada without huge brokerage fees from UPS; USPS apparently
> > > won't carry a bike box.
>
> > Be prepared to pay a duty. When I bought my Brodie from Canada I got
> > hit for $50. Those are just suggestions anyway, surely you can order
> > something from a bike shop. Bianchi Volpe, Redline Conquest, Jamis--
> > plenty of tough cxcross/tour bikes if you look in the right places.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Not for $500. Nothing much under a thousand here. Even the Kona jake
> is $950. (Hmm, so why is it $700 in the US when our buck is so
> strong?)
>
> I know I know, it's cheap for the shop service, but it's the
> castration that worries me when my wife finds out she doesn't get a
> new couch.

Option 2, get a hybrid, then put good bars on it.
http://tinyurl.com/2hccht

That bar looks modern, but really puts the hands at around the same
place classic British and Scandinavian bikes do. ;-)




 
Date: 14 Nov 2007 15:36:44
From: mtb Dad
Subject: Re: fendrs and rack with discs?
On Nov 14, 12:13 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Nov 14, 8:58 am, mtb Dad <listerfar...@telus.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 12, 4:14 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > mtb Dad wrote:
> > > > Thinking of this model bike for my son, but not sure if fenders and
> > > > racks are compatible with frames mounted with disc brakes. Anyone
> > > > know?
>
> > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290174790813&index...
>
> > > Much more trouble than it's worth. If you're on a budget and handy
> > > check out the $500 Motobecane Fantom CX at bikesdirect.com. Linear
> > > pull brakes, which work just fine, takes standard racks and fender.
> > > They also have an OK touring bike, the Windsor Touring for $600, also
> > > takes standard racks and fenders.
>
> > > I speak from experience--you can certainly put racks and fenders on a
> > > disc bike--but you're going to have to spend much more to get a good
> > > strong rack--the cheap disc ones are terrible, and if you want real
> > > full coverage fenders, you'll also spend way way more, or have to bend
> > > your own custom struts.
>
> > > Also, if he's using this for utility, disc brakes attract thieves.
> > > When I had a Brodie Energy last year, set up with an awful Axiom rack--
> > > even it attracted attention and admiring glances, while my current
> > > hybrid with fenders and racks flies under the radar--while still being
> > > handsome. It's definitely a real problem to think about. I sold my
> > > Brodie, as the rack/brake issues weren't worth the hassle.
>
> > Thanks. Looks good. Now I just have to figure out how to get one
> > into Canada without huge brokerage fees from UPS; USPS apparently
> > won't carry a bike box.
>
> Be prepared to pay a duty. When I bought my Brodie from Canada I got
> hit for $50. Those are just suggestions anyway, surely you can order
> something from a bike shop. Bianchi Volpe, Redline Conquest, Jamis--
> plenty of tough cxcross/tour bikes if you look in the right places.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Not for $500. Nothing much under a thousand here. Even the Kona jake
is $950. (Hmm, so why is it $700 in the US when our buck is so
strong?)

I know I know, it's cheap for the shop service, but it's the
castration that worries me when my wife finds out she doesn't get a
new couch.




 
Date: 14 Nov 2007 12:13:29
From: landotter
Subject: Re: fendrs and rack with discs?
On Nov 14, 8:58 am, mtb Dad <listerfar...@telus.net > wrote:
> On Nov 12, 4:14 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > mtb Dad wrote:
> > > Thinking of this model bike for my son, but not sure if fenders and
> > > racks are compatible with frames mounted with disc brakes. Anyone
> > > know?
>
> > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290174790813&index...
>
> > Much more trouble than it's worth. If you're on a budget and handy
> > check out the $500 Motobecane Fantom CX at bikesdirect.com. Linear
> > pull brakes, which work just fine, takes standard racks and fender.
> > They also have an OK touring bike, the Windsor Touring for $600, also
> > takes standard racks and fenders.
>
> > I speak from experience--you can certainly put racks and fenders on a
> > disc bike--but you're going to have to spend much more to get a good
> > strong rack--the cheap disc ones are terrible, and if you want real
> > full coverage fenders, you'll also spend way way more, or have to bend
> > your own custom struts.
>
> > Also, if he's using this for utility, disc brakes attract thieves.
> > When I had a Brodie Energy last year, set up with an awful Axiom rack--
> > even it attracted attention and admiring glances, while my current
> > hybrid with fenders and racks flies under the radar--while still being
> > handsome. It's definitely a real problem to think about. I sold my
> > Brodie, as the rack/brake issues weren't worth the hassle.
>
> Thanks. Looks good. Now I just have to figure out how to get one
> into Canada without huge brokerage fees from UPS; USPS apparently
> won't carry a bike box.

Be prepared to pay a duty. When I bought my Brodie from Canada I got
hit for $50. Those are just suggestions anyway, surely you can order
something from a bike shop. Bianchi Volpe, Redline Conquest, Jamis--
plenty of tough cxcross/tour bikes if you look in the right places.



 
Date: 14 Nov 2007 06:58:46
From: mtb Dad
Subject: Re: fendrs and rack with discs?
On Nov 12, 4:14 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com > wrote:
> mtb Dad wrote:
> > Thinking of this model bike for my son, but not sure if fenders and
> > racks are compatible with frames mounted with disc brakes. Anyone
> > know?
>
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290174790813&index...
>
> Much more trouble than it's worth. If you're on a budget and handy
> check out the $500 Motobecane Fantom CX at bikesdirect.com. Linear
> pull brakes, which work just fine, takes standard racks and fender.
> They also have an OK touring bike, the Windsor Touring for $600, also
> takes standard racks and fenders.
>
> I speak from experience--you can certainly put racks and fenders on a
> disc bike--but you're going to have to spend much more to get a good
> strong rack--the cheap disc ones are terrible, and if you want real
> full coverage fenders, you'll also spend way way more, or have to bend
> your own custom struts.
>
> Also, if he's using this for utility, disc brakes attract thieves.
> When I had a Brodie Energy last year, set up with an awful Axiom rack--
> even it attracted attention and admiring glances, while my current
> hybrid with fenders and racks flies under the radar--while still being
> handsome. It's definitely a real problem to think about. I sold my
> Brodie, as the rack/brake issues weren't worth the hassle.

Thanks. Looks good. Now I just have to figure out how to get one
into Canada without huge brokerage fees from UPS; USPS apparently
won't carry a bike box.



 
Date: 12 Nov 2007 16:14:34
From: landotter
Subject: Re: fendrs and rack with discs?

mtb Dad wrote:
> Thinking of this model bike for my son, but not sure if fenders and
> racks are compatible with frames mounted with disc brakes. Anyone
> know?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290174790813&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting
>


Much more trouble than it's worth. If you're on a budget and handy
check out the $500 Motobecane Fantom CX at bikesdirect.com. Linear
pull brakes, which work just fine, takes standard racks and fender.
They also have an OK touring bike, the Windsor Touring for $600, also
takes standard racks and fenders.

I speak from experience--you can certainly put racks and fenders on a
disc bike--but you're going to have to spend much more to get a good
strong rack--the cheap disc ones are terrible, and if you want real
full coverage fenders, you'll also spend way way more, or have to bend
your own custom struts.

Also, if he's using this for utility, disc brakes attract thieves.
When I had a Brodie Energy last year, set up with an awful Axiom rack--
even it attracted attention and admiring glances, while my current
hybrid with fenders and racks flies under the radar--while still being
handsome. It's definitely a real problem to think about. I sold my
Brodie, as the rack/brake issues weren't worth the hassle.