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Date: 19 Jul 2007 09:54:20
From: bobdobbs
Subject: mounting attachment for panniers which slide on to rack
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Have been touring for years with panniers which mount to rear rack via
slide rail. Recently lost one of the bracket/clamp type mechanisms
holding the rack to the rail-mount attachment. Haven't been able to
find either the rack nor the mounting attachment in bike stores; nor
have I been able to find the parts in hardware stores or Home depot.
It was an old (pre-Bell) Blackburn. Any ideas? - I really like the
panniers and can't attach them to rack otherwise. I'd need either the
parts, the mounting attachment or a rack which would accommodate this.
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 13:39:51
From: bktourer1
Subject: Re: mounting attachment for panniers which slide on to rack
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On Jul 20, 9:59 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com > wrote:
> bktourer1 wrote:
> > On Jul 19, 12:54 pm, bobdobbs <mnite...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Have been touring for years with panniers which mount to rear rack via
> >> slide rail. Recently lost one of the bracket/clamp type mechanisms
> >> holding the rack to the rail-mount attachment. Haven't been able to
> >> find either the rack nor the mounting attachment in bike stores; nor
> >> have I been able to find the parts in hardware stores or Home depot.
> >> It was an old (pre-Bell) Blackburn. Any ideas? - I really like the
> >> panniers and can't attach them to rack otherwise. I'd need either the
> >> parts, the mounting attachment or a rack which would accommodate this.
>
> > Check out Arkel. They have replacement rails with adjustable slides.
> > I replaced the hooks on my rear panniers and they work well. They
> > even have a
> > hook that can be locked so they bags can't be ripped off by a thief.
>
> "http://www.arkel-od.com/panniers/accessories/hookkit.asp?fl=1&site="
>
> I'm not sure I'd want to use the Arkel system on non-Arkel panniers. The
> top hooks are fine, but there is nothing that holds the mid or bottom
> section of the bag against the rack on non-Arkel bags. On the Arkel
> bags, there are three (except on the Bug) loops near the bottom, where
> you choose one to pass the shock cord through prior to hooking the hook
> near the bottom of the rack.
>
> It the original poster would put up a picture, or describe the problem
> more accurately, I think someone could come up with a solution. I often
> have to buy or make strange metal pieces and clamps, and it's not too
> difficult. McMaster has a lot of strange hardware, and often you can
> make something with aluminum flat plate.
>
> Steve
> "http://nordicgroup.us/rearracks"
There is a shock cord and hook on the arkel which works well in my
rack (jandd expedition).
I also use a wide nylon luggage strap and wrap it around the middle of
the bag and behind the rack to keep the bags from flapping.
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 03:00:33
From: SMS
Subject: Re: mounting attachment for panniers which slide on to rack
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bktourer1 wrote:
> There is a shock cord and hook on the arkel which works well in my
> rack (jandd expedition).
> I also use a wide nylon luggage strap and wrap it around the middle of
> the bag and behind the rack to keep the bags from flapping.
Yeah, it's the flapping problem that you have to find a way to solve
with the Arkel system. On the Arkel Bug it's a problem even with the
Arkel mounting system if you need the shock cord anywhere but in the
middle, and sometimes the shock cord hook needs to go at an angle down
the the bottom of the rack.
Steve
"http://nordicgroup.us/rearracks"
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 03:23:50
From: bktourer1
Subject: Re: mounting attachment for panniers which slide on to rack
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On Jul 19, 12:54 pm, bobdobbs <mnite...@gmail.com > wrote:
> Have been touring for years with panniers which mount to rear rack via
> slide rail. Recently lost one of the bracket/clamp type mechanisms
> holding the rack to the rail-mount attachment. Haven't been able to
> find either the rack nor the mounting attachment in bike stores; nor
> have I been able to find the parts in hardware stores or Home depot.
> It was an old (pre-Bell) Blackburn. Any ideas? - I really like the
> panniers and can't attach them to rack otherwise. I'd need either the
> parts, the mounting attachment or a rack which would accommodate this.
Check out Arkel. They have replacement rails with adjustable slides.
I replaced the hooks on my rear panniers and they work well. They
even have a
hook that can be locked so they bags can't be ripped off by a thief.
Ed
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 06:59:21
From: SMS
Subject: Re: mounting attachment for panniers which slide on to rack
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bktourer1 wrote:
> On Jul 19, 12:54 pm, bobdobbs <mnite...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Have been touring for years with panniers which mount to rear rack via
>> slide rail. Recently lost one of the bracket/clamp type mechanisms
>> holding the rack to the rail-mount attachment. Haven't been able to
>> find either the rack nor the mounting attachment in bike stores; nor
>> have I been able to find the parts in hardware stores or Home depot.
>> It was an old (pre-Bell) Blackburn. Any ideas? - I really like the
>> panniers and can't attach them to rack otherwise. I'd need either the
>> parts, the mounting attachment or a rack which would accommodate this.
>
> Check out Arkel. They have replacement rails with adjustable slides.
> I replaced the hooks on my rear panniers and they work well. They
> even have a
> hook that can be locked so they bags can't be ripped off by a thief.
"http://www.arkel-od.com/panniers/accessories/hookkit.asp?fl=1&site="
I'm not sure I'd want to use the Arkel system on non-Arkel panniers. The
top hooks are fine, but there is nothing that holds the mid or bottom
section of the bag against the rack on non-Arkel bags. On the Arkel
bags, there are three (except on the Bug) loops near the bottom, where
you choose one to pass the shock cord through prior to hooking the hook
near the bottom of the rack.
It the original poster would put up a picture, or describe the problem
more accurately, I think someone could come up with a solution. I often
have to buy or make strange metal pieces and clamps, and it's not too
difficult. McMaster has a lot of strange hardware, and often you can
make something with aluminum flat plate.
Steve
"http://nordicgroup.us/rearracks"
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Date: 19 Jul 2007 20:53:50
From: SMS
Subject: Re: mounting attachment for panniers which slide on to rack
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bobdobbs wrote:
> Have been touring for years with panniers which mount to rear rack via
> slide rail. Recently lost one of the bracket/clamp type mechanisms
> holding the rack to the rail-mount attachment. Haven't been able to
> find either the rack nor the mounting attachment in bike stores; nor
> have I been able to find the parts in hardware stores or Home depot.
> It was an old (pre-Bell) Blackburn. Any ideas? - I really like the
> panniers and can't attach them to rack otherwise. I'd need either the
> parts, the mounting attachment or a rack which would accommodate this.
You really need to post a picture of one of the "bracket/clamp type
mechanisms"
Is the part that's missing something on the panniers or on the rack?
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Date: 19 Jul 2007 18:36:46
From: bobdobbs
Subject: Re: mounting attachment for panniers which slide on to rack
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I contacted Blackburn but they were absolutely no help. The mounting
system does look something like the one in the first hyperlink, I'm
going to see if the attaching parts in the second link resemble the
parts in mine. Thanks? Phil
On Jul 19, 2:28 pm, Gary Young <garyyou...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:54:20 -0700, bobdobbs wrote:
> > Have been touring for years with panniers which mount to rear rack via
> > slide rail. Recently lost one of the bracket/clamp type mechanisms
> > holding the rack to the rail-mount attachment. Haven't been able to
> > find either the rack nor the mounting attachment in bike stores; nor
> > have I been able to find the parts in hardware stores or Home depot.
> > It was an old (pre-Bell) Blackburn. Any ideas? - I really like the
> > panniers and can't attach them to rack otherwise. I'd need either the
> > parts, the mounting attachment or a rack which would accommodate this.
>
> I'm having a hard time picturing what you need from your description. When
> you say there's a slide rail mounting system, do you mean that you have a
> rack like this?:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/33pgte
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> If what you're missing are clamps on the panniers themselves, then you may
> be able to use replacement parts from another pannier maker, such as these:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/35gvzh
>
> It would be helpful if you could link to a picture of your setup. Also,
> have you tried contacting Blackburn?
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Date: 19 Jul 2007 13:28:44
From: Gary Young
Subject: Re: mounting attachment for panniers which slide on to rack
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:54:20 -0700, bobdobbs wrote:
> Have been touring for years with panniers which mount to rear rack via
> slide rail. Recently lost one of the bracket/clamp type mechanisms
> holding the rack to the rail-mount attachment. Haven't been able to
> find either the rack nor the mounting attachment in bike stores; nor
> have I been able to find the parts in hardware stores or Home depot.
> It was an old (pre-Bell) Blackburn. Any ideas? - I really like the
> panniers and can't attach them to rack otherwise. I'd need either the
> parts, the mounting attachment or a rack which would accommodate this.
I'm having a hard time picturing what you need from your description. When
you say there's a slide rail mounting system, do you mean that you have a
rack like this?:
http://tinyurl.com/33pgte
If what you're missing are clamps on the panniers themselves, then you may
be able to use replacement parts from another pannier maker, such as these:
http://tinyurl.com/35gvzh
It would be helpful if you could link to a picture of your setup. Also,
have you tried contacting Blackburn?
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