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Date: 30 Jun 2007 19:08:28
From: A Muzi
Subject: nothing fits now
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Peter mentioned earlier the huge growth of product options, which is
either a boon or a curse - I leave the conclusion to others - as this
proliferation opens as many opportunities as it closes doors. Here's my
end-of-difficult-day story today.
Employee of one of our (non-bike) vendors strolls in after hours
accompanied by 5~6kg yapping mini-canine and asks for a front basket.
Yes, to carry companion on rides(!). I know his Chinese $400 hybrid so
I offer a few quick-mount baskets. He chooses a wicker model with
'universal' mount.
He called half an hour later to say the mount's band won't span the 'new
improved' oversize handlebar on his new Chinese road bike.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 01 Jul 2007 23:53:24
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: nothing fits now
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On Jul 1, 2:01 pm, "* * Chas" <verktygj...@aol.spamski.com > wrote:
> "still me" <wheeled...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9mhf8313u6mhckkemnh2uu61vp1d1thl17@4ax.com...
>
> > On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:25:51 -0700, "* * Chas"
> > <verktygj...@aol.spamski.com> wrote:
>
> > >When I got home I decided to ease my sorrow and build up another
> beater. I
> > >had the Le Champion field stripped down the bare frame in about 15
> > >minutes.
>
> > I don't know that I am comfortable with you using a Le Champion as a
> > "beater". We may have to talk.
>
> Beater in the sense that I got the frame NOS in 1984 with a lot of chips
> and scratches so I've ridden it more indiscrimently. Over the years my
> pristine bikes have tended to remain hanger queens because I didn't want
> to get them dirty or scratched up.
>
> The LC had a set of Stronglight 105bis cranks, and somne great 1975
> vintage componets: 1st generation Suntour Cyclone derailleurs, 1st
> generation Weinmann Carrera brakes, a true 21.9mm metric Cinelli 1/a stem
> and so on.
>
> > >I grabbed another Moto frame, a 1974-76 Grand Jubilee. I thought it had
> > >Campy dropouts.... Nooo, it has the bastard Huret dropouts with their
> > >proprietary gear hanger.
>
> > A Dremel, flat file, and about 10 minutes and that will handle a SLJ
> > with ease.
>
> I checked out Campy, Suntour, Shimano and Simplex derailleurs with the
> Huret gear hanger - a true Maginot specimen of French glory.
>
> I have to make up a special washer with a tab on it in order for a
> standardized derailleur to work. Maybe I could find an old Huret Allvit
> RD.....
>
> The French are enthralled with Jerry Lewis, the Japanese are enthralled
> with old Huret junk. ;-)
>
> Chas.
sacre blue!
i was on a limited budget, the old '87 10 speed was for 365
transportation with the auto in storage. From shade tree auto mechanic
experience, where were the parts coming from? OOS in oakland?
Enter Frank Berto! thanks frank, you're the greatest. A librarian in
Palm Bleach shoved Berto's Rodale old bike book to me and therein I
read that the Asians had agreed! this was unreal at the time, had
agreed on parts standardization.
Incroyable! new economics at the source.
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Date: 01 Jul 2007 03:55:38
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: nothing fits now
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On Jun 30, 11:25 pm, "* * Chas" <verktygj...@aol.spamski.com > wrote:
> "A Muzi" <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote in message
>
> news:138ds4k6eie1e65@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Peter mentioned earlier the huge growth of product options, which is
> > either a boon or a curse - I leave the conclusion to others - as this
> > proliferation opens as many opportunities as it closes doors. Here's my
> > end-of-difficult-day story today.
>
> > Employee of one of our (non-bike) vendors strolls in after hours
> > accompanied by 5~6kg yapping mini-canine and asks for a front basket.
> > Yes, to carry companion on rides(!). I know his Chinese $400 hybrid so
> > I offer a few quick-mount baskets. He chooses a wicker model with
> > 'universal' mount.
>
> > He called half an hour later to say the mount's band won't span the 'new
> > improved' oversize handlebar on his new Chinese road bike.
> > --
> > Andrew Muzi
> >www.yellowjersey.org
> > Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>
> There was some sense of standardization after the demise of the French
> component industry (I have a collection of old French bikes and a horde of
> spare parts).
>
> The other evening I was out on my favorite beater, a 1977-79 Motobecane Le
> Champion. I was chasing a guy of a CF bike up a short hill. I downshifted
> to my 26T and started stomping on it. That's when I felt that ugly
> sensations and noise of sucking a RD into the rear wheel. First time since
> about 1973.
>
> When I got home I decided to ease my sorrow and build up another beater. I
> had the Le Champion field stripped down the bare frame in about 15
> minutes.
>
> I grabbed another Moto frame, a 1974-76 Grand Jubilee. I thought it had
> Campy dropouts.... Nooo, it has the bastard Huret dropouts with their
> proprietary gear hanger.
>
Yeah, one of my Grand Jubiles has those, too. The 'claw' is too far
forward; probably only an issue with indexed shifting. Easily
remedied, too. I fashioned a plate with a new 'claw' out of a
washer , placed it between the dropout and the RD. My other, slightly
newer GJ has Campy dropouts.
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Date: 01 Jul 2007 10:47:07
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: nothing fits now
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"Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote in message
news:1183287338.885114.227100@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 30, 11:25 pm, "* * Chas" <verktygj...@aol.spamski.com> wrote:
> > "A Muzi" <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote in message
> >
> > news:138ds4k6eie1e65@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Peter mentioned earlier the huge growth of product options, which is
> > > either a boon or a curse - I leave the conclusion to others - as
this
> > > proliferation opens as many opportunities as it closes doors. Here's
my
> > > end-of-difficult-day story today.
> >
> > > Employee of one of our (non-bike) vendors strolls in after hours
> > > accompanied by 5~6kg yapping mini-canine and asks for a front
basket.
> > > Yes, to carry companion on rides(!). I know his Chinese $400 hybrid
so
> > > I offer a few quick-mount baskets. He chooses a wicker model with
> > > 'universal' mount.
> >
> > > He called half an hour later to say the mount's band won't span the
'new
> > > improved' oversize handlebar on his new Chinese road bike.
> > > --
> > > Andrew Muzi
> > >www.yellowjersey.org
> > > Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> >
> > There was some sense of standardization after the demise of the French
> > component industry (I have a collection of old French bikes and a
horde of
> > spare parts).
> >
> > The other evening I was out on my favorite beater, a 1977-79
Motobecane Le
> > Champion. I was chasing a guy of a CF bike up a short hill. I
downshifted
> > to my 26T and started stomping on it. That's when I felt that ugly
> > sensations and noise of sucking a RD into the rear wheel. First time
since
> > about 1973.
> >
> > When I got home I decided to ease my sorrow and build up another
beater. I
> > had the Le Champion field stripped down the bare frame in about 15
> > minutes.
> >
> > I grabbed another Moto frame, a 1974-76 Grand Jubilee. I thought it
had
> > Campy dropouts.... Nooo, it has the bastard Huret dropouts with their
> > proprietary gear hanger.
> >
>
> Yeah, one of my Grand Jubiles has those, too. The 'claw' is too far
> forward; probably only an issue with indexed shifting. Easily
> remedied, too. I fashioned a plate with a new 'claw' out of a
> washer , placed it between the dropout and the RD. My other, slightly
> newer GJ has Campy dropouts.
>
Yeah, after thinking about it I came up with that idea too. I have some of
the washers with a lip that came on the Huret "bolt on" gear hangers - the
kind that fall off when you remove the wheel and the chain gets twisted
and....
I'm going to modify it to work with an old Suntour Cyclone RD.
I have a complete almost NOS set of Jubilee derialleurs. Back in the day I
built up a 17+ Lb. steel time trial bike. The Jubilee FD broke on the
first ride so they went back into stock and I switched to something
stronger.
The other option would be to find a Huret Success or ECO RD. They were
ugly but worked really well for friction shifters.
Chas.
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Date: 01 Jul 2007 09:49:22
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: nothing fits now
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On Jul 1, 12:25 am, "* * Chas" <verktygj...@aol.spamski.com > wrote:
> "A Muzi" <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote in message
>
> news:138ds4k6eie1e65@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Peter mentioned earlier the huge growth of product options, which is
> > either a boon or a curse - I leave the conclusion to others - as this
> > proliferation opens as many opportunities as it closes doors. Here's my
> > end-of-difficult-day story today.
>
> > Employee of one of our (non-bike) vendors strolls in after hours
> > accompanied by 5~6kg yapping mini-canine and asks for a front basket.
> > Yes, to carry companion on rides(!). I know his Chinese $400 hybrid so
> > I offer a few quick-mount baskets. He chooses a wicker model with
> > 'universal' mount.
>
> > He called half an hour later to say the mount's band won't span the 'new
> > improved' oversize handlebar on his new Chinese road bike.
> > --
> > Andrew Muzi
> >www.yellowjersey.org
> > Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>
> There was some sense of standardization after the demise of the French
> component industry (I have a collection of old French bikes and a horde of
> spare parts).
>
> The other evening I was out on my favorite beater, a 1977-79 Motobecane Le
> Champion. I was chasing a guy of a CF bike up a short hill. I downshifted
> to my 26T and started stomping on it. That's when I felt that ugly
> sensations and noise of sucking a RD into the rear wheel. First time since
> about 1973.
>
> When I got home I decided to ease my sorrow and build up another beater. I
> had the Le Champion field stripped down the bare frame in about 15
> minutes.
>
> I grabbed another Moto frame, a 1974-76 Grand Jubilee. I thought it had
> Campy dropouts.... Nooo, it has the bastard Huret dropouts with their
> proprietary gear hanger.
>
> Chas.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
mant recent design advances include toothpaste with ground drywall for
whitening
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Date: 30 Jun 2007 21:51:03
From: Johnny Sunset
Subject: Re: nothing fits now
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On Jun 30, 8:50 pm, datakoll aka gene daniels wrote:
>
> Allow me to introduce myself.
> I AM WANG DOLLOP MAX.
> Purveyor of everything.
> In addition to our basket to carry fresh meat from market, shims
> offered for a variety of stem attachements: all at the same price
> NOTHING! If needing Yugo parts please contact directly.
> ...
> http://www.hot-nudegirls.com/2007/06/28/sexy-naked-chinese-girl
Where are the brackets for bicycle attachment? Also, I did not see a
MRSP.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
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Date: 30 Jun 2007 21:25:51
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: nothing fits now
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"A Muzi" <am@yellowjersey.org > wrote in message
news:138ds4k6eie1e65@corp.supernews.com...
> Peter mentioned earlier the huge growth of product options, which is
> either a boon or a curse - I leave the conclusion to others - as this
> proliferation opens as many opportunities as it closes doors. Here's my
> end-of-difficult-day story today.
>
> Employee of one of our (non-bike) vendors strolls in after hours
> accompanied by 5~6kg yapping mini-canine and asks for a front basket.
> Yes, to carry companion on rides(!). I know his Chinese $400 hybrid so
> I offer a few quick-mount baskets. He chooses a wicker model with
> 'universal' mount.
>
> He called half an hour later to say the mount's band won't span the 'new
> improved' oversize handlebar on his new Chinese road bike.
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> www.yellowjersey.org
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
There was some sense of standardization after the demise of the French
component industry (I have a collection of old French bikes and a horde of
spare parts).
The other evening I was out on my favorite beater, a 1977-79 Motobecane Le
Champion. I was chasing a guy of a CF bike up a short hill. I downshifted
to my 26T and started stomping on it. That's when I felt that ugly
sensations and noise of sucking a RD into the rear wheel. First time since
about 1973.
When I got home I decided to ease my sorrow and build up another beater. I
had the Le Champion field stripped down the bare frame in about 15
minutes.
I grabbed another Moto frame, a 1974-76 Grand Jubilee. I thought it had
Campy dropouts.... Nooo, it has the bastard Huret dropouts with their
proprietary gear hanger.
Chas.
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Date: 01 Jul 2007 15:26:37
From: still me
Subject: Re: nothing fits now
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:25:51 -0700, "* * Chas"
<verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com > wrote:
>
>When I got home I decided to ease my sorrow and build up another beater. I
>had the Le Champion field stripped down the bare frame in about 15
>minutes.
I don't know that I am comfortable with you using a Le Champion as a
"beater". We may have to talk.
>I grabbed another Moto frame, a 1974-76 Grand Jubilee. I thought it had
>Campy dropouts.... Nooo, it has the bastard Huret dropouts with their
>proprietary gear hanger.
A Dremel, flat file, and about 10 minutes and that will handle a SLJ
with ease.
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Date: 01 Jul 2007 11:01:28
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: nothing fits now
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"still me" <wheeledBob@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:9mhf8313u6mhckkemnh2uu61vp1d1thl17@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:25:51 -0700, "* * Chas"
> <verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >When I got home I decided to ease my sorrow and build up another
beater. I
> >had the Le Champion field stripped down the bare frame in about 15
> >minutes.
>
> I don't know that I am comfortable with you using a Le Champion as a
> "beater". We may have to talk.
>
Beater in the sense that I got the frame NOS in 1984 with a lot of chips
and scratches so I've ridden it more indiscrimently. Over the years my
pristine bikes have tended to remain hanger queens because I didn't want
to get them dirty or scratched up.
The LC had a set of Stronglight 105bis cranks, and somne great 1975
vintage componets: 1st generation Suntour Cyclone derailleurs, 1st
generation Weinmann Carrera brakes, a true 21.9mm metric Cinelli 1/a stem
and so on.
> >I grabbed another Moto frame, a 1974-76 Grand Jubilee. I thought it had
> >Campy dropouts.... Nooo, it has the bastard Huret dropouts with their
> >proprietary gear hanger.
>
> A Dremel, flat file, and about 10 minutes and that will handle a SLJ
> with ease.
>
I checked out Campy, Suntour, Shimano and Simplex derailleurs with the
Huret gear hanger - a true Maginot specimen of French glory.
I have to make up a special washer with a tab on it in order for a
standardized derailleur to work. Maybe I could find an old Huret Allvit
RD.....
The French are enthralled with Jerry Lewis, the Japanese are enthralled
with old Huret junk. ;-)
Chas.
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Date: 01 Jul 2007 02:13:37
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: nothing fits now
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On Jun 30, 10:04 pm, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Jun 30, 8:50 pm, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 30, 8:08 pm, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
> > > Peter mentioned earlier the huge growth of product options, which is
> > > either a boon or a curse - I leave the conclusion to others - as this
> > > proliferation opens as many opportunities as it closes doors. Here's my
> > > end-of-difficult-day story today.
>
> > > Employee of one of our (non-bike) vendors strolls in after hours
> > > accompanied by 5~6kg yapping mini-canine and asks for a front basket.
> > > Yes, to carry companion on rides(!). I know his Chinese $400 hybrid so
> > > I offer a few quick-mount baskets. He chooses a wicker model with
> > > 'universal' mount.
>
> > > He called half an hour later to say the mount's band won't span the 'new
> > > improved' oversize handlebar on his new Chinese road bike.
> > > --
> > > Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
> > > Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>
> > Allow me to introduce myself.
> > I AM WANG DOLLOP MAX.
>
> Hah! And I thought you were One Pulled Pud....- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
pud? problem in ozarks?
http://www.foreskinrestoration.info/pud.htm
you thought? you transplant brain with monkey?
youn see free speech no work with lesser intelligence levels
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Date: 30 Jun 2007 19:04:01
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: nothing fits now
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On Jun 30, 8:50 pm, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Jun 30, 8:08 pm, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Peter mentioned earlier the huge growth of product options, which is
> > either a boon or a curse - I leave the conclusion to others - as this
> > proliferation opens as many opportunities as it closes doors. Here's my
> > end-of-difficult-day story today.
>
> > Employee of one of our (non-bike) vendors strolls in after hours
> > accompanied by 5~6kg yapping mini-canine and asks for a front basket.
> > Yes, to carry companion on rides(!). I know his Chinese $400 hybrid so
> > I offer a few quick-mount baskets. He chooses a wicker model with
> > 'universal' mount.
>
> > He called half an hour later to say the mount's band won't span the 'new
> > improved' oversize handlebar on his new Chinese road bike.
> > --
> > Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
> > Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>
> Allow me to introduce myself.
> I AM WANG DOLLOP MAX.
Hah! And I thought you were One Pulled Pud....
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Date: 01 Jul 2007 01:50:41
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: nothing fits now
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On Jun 30, 8:08 pm, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org > wrote:
> Peter mentioned earlier the huge growth of product options, which is
> either a boon or a curse - I leave the conclusion to others - as this
> proliferation opens as many opportunities as it closes doors. Here's my
> end-of-difficult-day story today.
>
> Employee of one of our (non-bike) vendors strolls in after hours
> accompanied by 5~6kg yapping mini-canine and asks for a front basket.
> Yes, to carry companion on rides(!). I know his Chinese $400 hybrid so
> I offer a few quick-mount baskets. He chooses a wicker model with
> 'universal' mount.
>
> He called half an hour later to say the mount's band won't span the 'new
> improved' oversize handlebar on his new Chinese road bike.
> --
> Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
Allow me to introduce myself.
I AM WANG DOLLOP MAX.
Purveyor of everything.
In addition to our basket to carry fresh meat from market, shims
offered for a variety of stem attachements: all at the same price
NOTHING! If needing Yugo parts please contact directly.
http://www.jitensha.com/eng/basket_e.html
http://harriscyclery.net/itemdetails.cfm?ID=417
http://www.worldclasscycles.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=WCC&Category_Code=HSN
http://www.bikepartsusa.com/product_info.asp?f_c=handlebar&cp=4&p=01-109646
http://www.hot-nudegirls.com/2007/06/28/sexy-naked-chinese-girl
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/index.php?category=1678
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