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Date: 19 Jun 2007 16:07:05
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Subject: pre-NR campy track hubs on ebay
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Does anyone know anything about these hubs?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Campagnolo-Track-Hubs_W0QQitemZ270130965969QQihZ017QQcategoryZ56197QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 05:19:18
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: pre-NR campy track hubs on ebay
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On Jun 19, 7:36 pm, "David L. Johnson" <david.john...@lehigh.edu >
wrote:
> pianofigh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Does anyone know anything about these hubs?
>
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Campagnolo-Track-Hubs_W0QQitemZ2701309659...
>
> Well, they are ancient. These are collectors' items, not really for
> serious use. They are also not track hubs. The rear is a flip-flop hub
> (I haven't seen such a hub made by Campy before), but with the
> non-lockring side and the Q/R axles, they were certainly made for road use.
4s or so freewheel on each side with different ratios..stop, flip
wheel, continue-type thing.
> Campagnolo bought out FB (when I don't know, but someone will); these
> hubs are from shortly after the takeover, since they still are using the
> steel center part of the shell. I have an FB hub that looks quite a bit
> like this, except that it is high flange.
>
> No way are they from the 60s. I have a pair of 60s-vintage track hubs,
> and they are indistinguishable from Record hubs of the 70s. But, of
> course, they are not track hubs, anyway. 40 hole rear and low flange?
>
> --
>
> David L. Johnson
>
> It doesn't get any easier, you just go faster.
> --Greg LeMond
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 12:08:30
From: Jay Beattie
Subject: Re: pre-NR campy track hubs on ebay
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"Qui si parla Campagnolo" <peter@vecchios.com > wrote in message
news:1182341958.133825.132970@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 19, 7:36 pm, "David L. Johnson" <david.john...@lehigh.edu>
> wrote:
>> pianofigh...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > Does anyone know anything about these hubs?
>>
>> >http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Campagnolo-Track-Hubs_W0QQitemZ2701309659...
>>
>> Well, they are ancient. These are collectors' items, not really
>> for
>> serious use. They are also not track hubs. The rear is a
>> flip-flop hub
>> (I haven't seen such a hub made by Campy before), but with the
>> non-lockring side and the Q/R axles, they were certainly made for
>> road use.
>
> 4s or so freewheel on each side with different ratios..stop, flip
> wheel, continue-type thing.
That is wild. Campy should do the same thing today with 10sp. Do the
Santana 160mm rear spacing thing and have a 20 cog flip-flop. -- Jay
Beattie.
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 21:22:41
From: James Thomson
Subject: Re: pre-NR campy track hubs on ebay
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"Jay Beattie" <jbeattie@lindsayhart.com > a écrit:
> "Qui si parla Campagnolo" <peter@vecchios.com> wrote:
>> 4s or so freewheel on each side with different ratios..stop, flip
>> wheel, continue-type thing.
> That is wild.
I think Peter's mistaken: this is a fixed-free hub. You can clearly see the
lockring thread on the fixed side:
http://i8.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/a4/7f/5889_1.JPG
and the spacing is asymmetric. Note the spacer between the cone and its
locknut on the free side, and the absence of a spacer on the fixed side.
This was a dished wheel:
http://i24.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/a4/7f/58a2_1.JPG
http://i3.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/a4/7f/58ef_1.JPG
This setup wasn't uncommon on club bikes in the fifties in Britain, and the
40/32 drilling suggests this pair may originally have been sold on the
British market where that combination was usual.
James Thomson
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 22:34:05
From: Troll Report
Subject: Re: pre-NR campy track hubs on ebay
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:07:05 -0700, pianofighter@gmail.com wrote:
> Does anyone know anything about these hubs?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Campagnolo-Track-Hubs_W0QQitemZ270130965969QQihZ017QQcategoryZ56197QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Those are damn near the ultimate hubs, as well as being highly collectible,
as with everything Campagnolo. At a winning bid of $56, the buyer was
extremely lucky to say the least. $560 would have been a bargain. The
problem is, I bet the seller realizes he got 'ripped', and won't follow
through on delivery (which would be both poor form and totally
understandable).
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 15:08:14
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: pre-NR campy track hubs on ebay
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In article
<16za3wqztrvb6$.1pi4hdl7x0boo$.dlg@40tude.net >,
Troll Report <trollrepo@rt.net > wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:07:05 -0700, pianofighter@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know anything about these hubs?
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Campagnolo-Track-Hubs_W0QQitemZ270130965969QQihZ017QQcategoryZ56197QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> Those are damn near the ultimate hubs, as well as being highly collectible,
> as with everything Campagnolo. At a winning bid of $56, the buyer was
> extremely lucky to say the least. $560 would have been a bargain. The
> problem is, I bet the seller realizes he got 'ripped', and won't follow
> through on delivery (which would be both poor form and totally
> understandable).
What do you mean ripped? It is an auction.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 21:54:35
From: Jay Beattie
Subject: Re: pre-NR campy track hubs on ebay
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On Jun 19, 6:36 pm, "David L. Johnson" <david.john...@lehigh.edu >
wrote:
> pianofigh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Does anyone know anything about these hubs?
>
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Campagnolo-Track-Hubs_W0QQitemZ2701309659...
>
> Well, they are ancient. These are collectors' items, not really for
> serious use. They are also not track hubs. The rear is a flip-flop hub
> (I haven't seen such a hub made by Campy before), but with the
> non-lockring side and the Q/R axles, they were certainly made for road use.
>
> Campagnolo bought out FB (when I don't know, but someone will); these
> hubs are from shortly after the takeover, since they still are using the
> steel center part of the shell. I have an FB hub that looks quite a bit
> like this, except that it is high flange.
>
> No way are they from the 60s. I have a pair of 60s-vintage track hubs,
> and they are indistinguishable from Record hubs of the 70s. But, of
> course, they are not track hubs, anyway. 40 hole rear and low flange?
>
They look like old Gran Sport hubs. The picture is bad, but I think
they are three piece. Gran Sport hubs were made for a long time and
were a low cost alternative to Record. Maybe Peter or Andrew can shed
some light on this. -- Jay Beattie.
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 21:36:42
From: David L. Johnson
Subject: Re: pre-NR campy track hubs on ebay
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pianofighter@gmail.com wrote:
> Does anyone know anything about these hubs?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Campagnolo-Track-Hubs_W0QQitemZ270130965969QQihZ017QQcategoryZ56197QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
Well, they are ancient. These are collectors' items, not really for
serious use. They are also not track hubs. The rear is a flip-flop hub
(I haven't seen such a hub made by Campy before), but with the
non-lockring side and the Q/R axles, they were certainly made for road use.
Campagnolo bought out FB (when I don't know, but someone will); these
hubs are from shortly after the takeover, since they still are using the
steel center part of the shell. I have an FB hub that looks quite a bit
like this, except that it is high flange.
No way are they from the 60s. I have a pair of 60s-vintage track hubs,
and they are indistinguishable from Record hubs of the 70s. But, of
course, they are not track hubs, anyway. 40 hole rear and low flange?
--
David L. Johnson
It doesn't get any easier, you just go faster.
--Greg LeMond
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