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Date: 28 Oct 2007 22:41:07
From: vey
Subject: sex with bike
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/26/nsex126.xml&CMP=ILC-mostviewedbox
A man has been placed on the sex offenders’ register after being caught
trying to have sex with a bicycle.
Robert Stewart was discovered in his room by two cleaners at the Aberley
House Hostel in Ayr, south west Scotland, in October last year.
On Wednesday Mr Stewart admitted to sexual breach of the peace in Ayr
Sheriff Court, where depute fiscal Gail Davidson described how he had
been found by the hostel workers.
She said: "They knocked on the door several times and there was no reply.
"They used a master key to unlock the door and they then observed the
accused wearing only a white T-shirt, naked from the waist down.
"The accused was holding the bike and moving his hips back and forth as
if to simulate sex."
Both witnesses, who were extremely shocked, notified the hotel manager,
who in turn alerted the police.
Mr Stewart was placed on the sex offenders’ register but his sentence
was deferred until next month.
He is not the first man to be convicted of a sexual offence involving an
inanimate object, however.
Karl Watkins, an electrician, was jailed for having sex with pavements
in Redditch, Worcs, in 1993.
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 14:23:24
From: Scott Gordo
Subject: Re: sex with bike
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On Nov 1, 8:31 am, "Tom Nakashima" <t...@slac.stanford.edu > wrote:
> "Mark Shroyer" <usenet-m...@markshroyer.com> wrote in message
>
> news:slrnfiivn9.ljd.usenet-mail@sed.homestarmy.net...
>
> > On 2007-10-29, Ozark Bicycle <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com>
> > wrote:
> >> On Oct 28, 8:48 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> Why should a masturbatory act behind a locked door be a criminal
> >>> offense?
>
> >>> If an action does not harm another non-consenting individual, it
> >>> can not justly be classified as immoral. In this case, the law is
> >>> immoral.
>
> > My thoughts exactly. So what if this guy likes to do odd things in
> > private; it's none of our business unless he harms someone else in
> > the process.
> > Mark Shroyer
> >http://markshroyer.com/
>
> I don't know about some of you in RBT.
> It's probably best we don't hear about the details.
> Ruin it for the rest of us if one of those Debbie does Colnago is released.
> -tom
Would you use a grease, like Phils, or a light oil?
/s
Staying away from hot paraffin.
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Date: 02 Nov 2007 14:15:34
From: Scott Gordo
Subject: Re: sex with bike
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On Nov 1, 1:41 pm, "Bill Sornson" <as...@ask.me > wrote:
> Derk wrote:
> > vey wrote:
>
> >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/26/nsex1...
> > Why does nobody ask how the bike is doing?
>
> Stiff yet compliant?
*snort*
/s
"It was askin' for it!"
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 12:59:48
From: Ben C
Subject: Re: Tires Gradually Go Flat in Storage
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On 2007-11-01, carlfogel@comcast.net <carlfogel@comcast.net > wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 04:44:55 -0500, Ben C <spamspam@spam.eggs> wrote:
>
>>On 2007-11-01, jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>> Michael Press wrote:
>>[...]
>>>> What are the sizes? What is "much larger"?
>>>>
>>>
>>> what's the matter michael? is your web browser broken?
>>
>>According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecule#Molecular_size, H2 is
>>the smallest diatomic molecule and is roughly 1.48 Angstroms in length.
>>That's about 0.15nm.
>>
>>As for a Helium atom, this page:
>>http://zebu.uoregon.edu/~soper/Sun/step0.html says it's 10-10m, which is
>>0.1nm.
>>
>>So not much difference in size at all.
>
> Dear Ben,
>
> The size of the molecules is as irrelevant as the quibbling.
I think you're right. In any case I'm not sure how directly applicable
the model of little corpuscles squeezing through a cloth-like mesh is at
such small scales where different physical principles are significant. I
suspect it's more of an analogy than an explanation.
But it's an interesting question how big these molecules are-- you would
certainly expect H2 to be bigger than He which is why I surprised to
find (apparently) that it wasn't with my quick Google search.
> The larger CO2 molecule escapes through butyl rubber at about ten
> times the rate of the obviously smaller O2 molecule:
>
>
> http://www2.dupont.com/Vamac/en_US/assets/downloads/vamac_gas_permeability.pdf
>
> You can find some explanations here:
>
> http://www.soarnol.com/eng/solution/solution060313.html
Thanks, and actually I do remember you explaining some of this the last
time this matter came up.
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 07:26:07
From: Scott Gordo
Subject: Re: sex with bike
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On Oct 29, 9:18 pm, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Oct 29, 7:35 am, Scott Gordo <blubberp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 29, 7:03 am, Ozark Bicycle
>
> > <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> > > On Oct 28, 9:59 pm, "Leo Lichtman" <l.licht...@worldnet.att.net>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > In days of old, when knights were bold,
> > > > Before women were invented,
> > > > Men would lay their cocks btween two rocks,
> > > > And sleep away contented.
>
> > > > In days of old, when knights were bold,
> > > > Before condoms were invented,
> > > > Men would wrap their cocks inside their socks,
> > > > And thus babies were prevented.
>
> > > Does the third verse involve rocksocks?
>
> > I've heard it's even Wilier.
>
> I didn't expect such a Kurt reply.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Moral of the story is that if your carnal desires Schwinng that way,
discretion is Paramount.
/s
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 08:43:30
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: sex with bike
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Scott Gordo wrote:
> Moral of the story is that if your carnal desires Schwinng that way,
> discretion is Paramount.
Until it all becomes a Giant Blur...
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 07:21:47
From: Scott Gordo
Subject: Re: sex with bike
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On Oct 28, 10:41 pm, vey <jun...@ericvey.com > wrote:
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/26/nsex1...
>
> A man has been placed on the sex offenders' register after being caught
> trying to have sex with a bicycle.
>
> Robert Stewart was discovered in his room by two cleaners at the Aberley
> House Hostel in Ayr, south west Scotland, in October last year.
>
> On Wednesday Mr Stewart admitted to sexual breach of the peace in Ayr
> Sheriff Court, where depute fiscal Gail Davidson described how he had
> been found by the hostel workers.
>
> She said: "They knocked on the door several times and there was no reply.
>
> "They used a master key to unlock the door and they then observed the
> accused wearing only a white T-shirt, naked from the waist down.
>
> "The accused was holding the bike and moving his hips back and forth as
> if to simulate sex."
>
> Both witnesses, who were extremely shocked, notified the hotel manager,
> who in turn alerted the police.
>
> Mr Stewart was placed on the sex offenders' register but his sentence
> was deferred until next month.
>
> He is not the first man to be convicted of a sexual offence involving an
> inanimate object, however.
>
> Karl Watkins, an electrician, was jailed for having sex with pavements
> in Redditch, Worcs, in 1993.
I just read that last line, "Kar Watkins, an electrician, was arrested
for having sex with pavements in Redditch, England."
Pavements? This is from an old Monty Python skit, right? What's the
date on that paper?
/s
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Date: 30 Oct 2007 08:34:33
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: sex with bike
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On Oct 29, 8:18 pm, "Leo Lichtman" <l.licht...@worldnet.att.net >
wrote:
> "Ozark Bicycle" <> I didn't expect such a Kurt reply.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Just your three cents' worth?
:-))
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Date: 29 Oct 2007 18:18:43
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: sex with bike
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On Oct 29, 7:35 am, Scott Gordo <blubberp...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Oct 29, 7:03 am, Ozark Bicycle
>
> <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> > On Oct 28, 9:59 pm, "Leo Lichtman" <l.licht...@worldnet.att.net>
> > wrote:
>
> > > In days of old, when knights were bold,
> > > Before women were invented,
> > > Men would lay their cocks btween two rocks,
> > > And sleep away contented.
>
> > > In days of old, when knights were bold,
> > > Before condoms were invented,
> > > Men would wrap their cocks inside their socks,
> > > And thus babies were prevented.
>
> > Does the third verse involve rocksocks?
>
> I've heard it's even Wilier.
I didn't expect such a Kurt reply.
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Date: 30 Oct 2007 02:18:09
From: Leo Lichtman
Subject: Re: sex with bike
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"Ozark Bicycle" < > I didn't expect such a Kurt reply.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Just your three cents' worth?
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Date: 29 Oct 2007 08:36:23
From: landotter
Subject: Re: sex with bike
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On Oct 29, 8:35 am, Scott Gordo <blubberp...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Oct 29, 7:03 am, Ozark Bicycle
>
> <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> > On Oct 28, 9:59 pm, "Leo Lichtman" <l.licht...@worldnet.att.net>
> > wrote:
>
> > > In days of old, when knights were bold,
> > > Before women were invented,
> > > Men would lay their cocks btween two rocks,
> > > And sleep away contented.
>
> > > In days of old, when knights were bold,
> > > Before condoms were invented,
> > > Men would wrap their cocks inside their socks,
> > > And thus babies were prevented.
>
> > Does the third verse involve rocksocks?
>
> I've heard it's even Wilier.
Is that a coyote in your pants?
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Date: 29 Oct 2007 13:35:05
From: Scott Gordo
Subject: Re: sex with bike
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On Oct 29, 7:03 am, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Oct 28, 9:59 pm, "Leo Lichtman" <l.licht...@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
>
> > In days of old, when knights were bold,
> > Before women were invented,
> > Men would lay their cocks btween two rocks,
> > And sleep away contented.
>
> > In days of old, when knights were bold,
> > Before condoms were invented,
> > Men would wrap their cocks inside their socks,
> > And thus babies were prevented.
>
> Does the third verse involve rocksocks?
I've heard it's even Wilier.
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Date: 29 Oct 2007 04:03:23
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: sex with bike
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On Oct 28, 9:59 pm, "Leo Lichtman" <l.licht...@worldnet.att.net >
wrote:
> In days of old, when knights were bold,
> Before women were invented,
> Men would lay their cocks btween two rocks,
> And sleep away contented.
>
> In days of old, when knights were bold,
> Before condoms were invented,
> Men would wrap their cocks inside their socks,
> And thus babies were prevented.
Does the third verse involve rocksocks?
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Date: 28 Oct 2007 20:16:55
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: sex with bike
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vey wrote:
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/26/nsex126.xml&CMP=ILC-mostviewedbox
As long as it wasn't a recumbent! (And yes, I see the suggestive syllable.)
Bill "judge not lest..." S.
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Date: 29 Oct 2007 03:59:01
From: Leo Lichtman
Subject: Re: sex with bike
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In days of old, when knights were bold,
Before women were invented,
Men would lay their cocks btween two rocks,
And sleep away contented.
In days of old, when knights were bold,
Before condoms were invented,
Men would wrap their cocks inside their socks,
And thus babies were prevented.
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Date: 28 Oct 2007 20:16:12
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: sex with bike
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On Oct 28, 8:48 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Eric Vey wrote:
> >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/26/nsex1...
>
> > A man has been placed on the sex offenders' register after being caught
> > trying to have sex with a bicycle.
>
> > Robert Stewart was discovered in his room by two cleaners at the Aberley
> > House Hostel in Ayr, south west Scotland, in October last year.
>
> > On Wednesday Mr Stewart admitted to sexual breach of the peace in Ayr
> > Sheriff Court, where depute fiscal Gail Davidson described how he had
> > been found by the hostel workers.
>
> > She said: "They knocked on the door several times and there was no reply.
>
> > "They used a master key to unlock the door and they then observed the
> > accused wearing only a white T-shirt, naked from the waist down.
>
> > "The accused was holding the bike and moving his hips back and forth as
> > if to simulate sex."
>
> > Both witnesses, who were extremely shocked, notified the hotel manager,
> > who in turn alerted the police.
>
> > Mr Stewart was placed on the sex offenders' register but his sentence
> > was deferred until next month.
>
> > He is not the first man to be convicted of a sexual offence involving an
> > inanimate object, however.
>
> > Karl Watkins, an electrician, was jailed for having sex with pavements
> > in Redditch, Worcs, in 1993.
>
> Why should a masturbatory act behind a locked door be a criminal offense?
>
> If an action does not harm another non-consenting individual, it can not
> justly be classified as immoral. In this case, the law is immoral.
>
Worried about being a three-time loser and receiving a mandatory jail
sentence?
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 07:23:21
From: Mark Shroyer
Subject: Re: sex with bike
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On 2007-10-29, Ozark Bicycle <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Oct 28, 8:48 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Why should a masturbatory act behind a locked door be a criminal
>> offense?
>>
>> If an action does not harm another non-consenting individual, it
>> can not justly be classified as immoral. In this case, the law is
>> immoral.
My thoughts exactly. So what if this guy likes to do odd things in
private; it's none of our business unless he harms someone else in
the process. Has British society really become so prudish that they
consider this reasonable, to use the force of law to suppress
others' "unseemly" bedroom behavior even when no real crime has been
committed?
> Worried about being a three-time loser and receiving a mandatory
> jail sentence?
In the States, at least, I'd wager that having your name on the sex
offender registry would have a far more detrimental effect on your
quality of life than any such amount of time in jail. Now I'd like
to think that had this happened in the US, this guy wouldn't have
been labeled a sex offender for it, but perhaps that's putting too
much faith in our judicial system this side of the Atlantic...
--
Mark Shroyer
http://markshroyer.com/
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 21:02:37
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: sex with bike
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Mark Shroyer wrote:
> On 2007-10-29, Ozark Bicycle <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 28, 8:48 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Why should a masturbatory act behind a locked door be a criminal
>>> offense?
>>>
>>> If an action does not harm another non-consenting individual, it
>>> can not justly be classified as immoral. In this case, the law is
>>> immoral.
>
> My thoughts exactly. So what if this guy likes to do odd things in
> private; it's none of our business unless he harms someone else in
> the process. Has British society really become so prudish that they
> consider this reasonable, to use the force of law to suppress
> others' "unseemly" bedroom behavior even when no real crime has been
> committed?
>
>> Worried about being a three-time loser and receiving a mandatory
>> jail sentence?
>
> In the States, at least, I'd wager that having your name on the sex
> offender registry would have a far more detrimental effect on your
> quality of life than any such amount of time in jail. Now I'd like
> to think that had this happened in the US, this guy wouldn't have
> been labeled a sex offender for it, but perhaps that's putting too
> much faith in our judicial system this side of the Atlantic...
>
Do not British hotel customers have any rights? The man was behind a
locked door, not deliberately displaying himself? Is there a CE human
rights court he could appeal to? Are Cromwell and the Puritans still
ruling the land?
If the man had been having sex with a consenting adult would he still be
considered a sex offender? What about masturbation without the aid of a
bicycle?
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
When did ignorance of biology become a "family value"?
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 06:31:08
From: Tom Nakashima
Subject: Re: sex with bike
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"Mark Shroyer" <usenet-mail@markshroyer.com > wrote in message
news:slrnfiivn9.ljd.usenet-mail@sed.homestarmy.net...
> On 2007-10-29, Ozark Bicycle <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com>
> wrote:
>> On Oct 28, 8:48 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Why should a masturbatory act behind a locked door be a criminal
>>> offense?
>>>
>>> If an action does not harm another non-consenting individual, it
>>> can not justly be classified as immoral. In this case, the law is
>>> immoral.
>
> My thoughts exactly. So what if this guy likes to do odd things in
> private; it's none of our business unless he harms someone else in
> the process.
> Mark Shroyer
> http://markshroyer.com/
I don't know about some of you in RBT.
It's probably best we don't hear about the details.
Ruin it for the rest of us if one of those Debbie does Colnago is released.
-tom
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Date: 28 Oct 2007 21:48:03
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: sex with bike
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Eric Vey wrote:
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/26/nsex126.xml&CMP=ILC-mostviewedbox
>
>
> A man has been placed on the sex offenders’ register after being caught
> trying to have sex with a bicycle.
>
> Robert Stewart was discovered in his room by two cleaners at the Aberley
> House Hostel in Ayr, south west Scotland, in October last year.
>
> On Wednesday Mr Stewart admitted to sexual breach of the peace in Ayr
> Sheriff Court, where depute fiscal Gail Davidson described how he had
> been found by the hostel workers.
>
> She said: "They knocked on the door several times and there was no reply.
>
> "They used a master key to unlock the door and they then observed the
> accused wearing only a white T-shirt, naked from the waist down.
>
> "The accused was holding the bike and moving his hips back and forth as
> if to simulate sex."
>
> Both witnesses, who were extremely shocked, notified the hotel manager,
> who in turn alerted the police.
>
> Mr Stewart was placed on the sex offenders’ register but his sentence
> was deferred until next month.
>
> He is not the first man to be convicted of a sexual offence involving an
> inanimate object, however.
>
> Karl Watkins, an electrician, was jailed for having sex with pavements
> in Redditch, Worcs, in 1993.
Why should a masturbatory act behind a locked door be a criminal offense?
If an action does not harm another non-consenting individual, it can not
justly be classified as immoral. In this case, the law is immoral.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
When did ignorance of biology become a "family value"?
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