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Date: 02 Aug 2007 13:55:52
From: timothy douma
Subject: source for spokes
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I need 18 each
252, 254, 259, 263
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 12:23:56
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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On Aug 4, 1:58 pm, carlfo...@comcast.net wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:01:25 -0500, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org>
> wrote:
>
> >>> On Aug 2, 3:03 pm, timothy douma <t...@loopchurch.org> wrote:
> >>>> As to LBS: It's kind of surprising what's not in stock.
>
> >> Ron Ruff wrote:
> >>> No Phil Wood machine? I guess they don't deal with spokes much...
>
> >David L. Johnson wrote:
> >> A thread-rolling machine won't do much good for someone wanting
> >> double-butted spokes. How many shops still have these things, anyway?
>
> >Every shop which does a volume in custom wheels. A butted spoke can be
> >trimmed over 1cm sometimes 15mm depending on the original blank.
>
> >There has been such severe disruption of the spoke market recently we
> >could not live without ours.
>
> Dear Andrew,
>
> Is there a good story behind this disruption of the spoke market?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Fogel
Not Andrew but we have seen no problem or disruprtion in spoke
manufacturing from our supplier of DT, Paceline in CA. Don't use WS,
Sapim supply from KHS is poor..so DT we use.
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 00:58:45
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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On Aug 2, 9:55 am, timothy douma <douma...@ameritech.net > wrote:
> I need 18 each
> 252, 254, 259, 263
Spokes spokes spokes
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/index.php?category=778
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/index.php?category=780
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/index.php?category=3204
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/index.php?category=779
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 00:55:35
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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On Aug 3, 11:30 am, "David L. Johnson" <david.john...@lehigh.edu >
wrote:
> timothy douma wrote:
> > I need 18 each
> > 252, 254, 259, 263
>
> I just ordered some spokes, and was surprised how little is available
> from the big retailers. Performance and Nashbar each only had a few
> sizes (different ones, too, which is odd since they are the same company
> now). I got mine at Lickton's ($13 for a pack of 20 DT double-butted),
> but will keep these other sites in mind.
>
> --
>
> David L. Johnson
>
> And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries,
> and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove
> mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. [1 Corinth. 13:2]
helluva tour!
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Date: 04 Aug 2007 20:12:47
From: landotter
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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On Aug 4, 2:58 pm, carlfo...@comcast.net wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:01:25 -0500, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org>
> wrote:
>
> >>> On Aug 2, 3:03 pm, timothy douma <t...@loopchurch.org> wrote:
> >>>> As to LBS: It's kind of surprising what's not in stock.
>
> >> Ron Ruff wrote:
> >>> No Phil Wood machine? I guess they don't deal with spokes much...
>
> >David L. Johnson wrote:
> >> A thread-rolling machine won't do much good for someone wanting
> >> double-butted spokes. How many shops still have these things, anyway?
>
> >Every shop which does a volume in custom wheels. A butted spoke can be
> >trimmed over 1cm sometimes 15mm depending on the original blank.
>
> >There has been such severe disruption of the spoke market recently we
> >could not live without ours.
>
> Dear Andrew,
>
> Is there a good story behind this disruption of the spoke market?
Drought. Same reason for the spaghetti shortage of '48.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mb6XLunYtIE
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Date: 03 Aug 2007 20:30:28
From: JeffWills
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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On Aug 3, 7:32 am, "David L. Johnson" <david.john...@lehigh.edu >
wrote:
>
> A thread-rolling machine won't do much good for someone wanting
> double-butted spokes. How many shops still have these things, anyway?
>
Not many. It's usually a very large shop or a place that does lots of
wheels... both fairly rare.
I've bought a few DT sets online from Icycles: http://www.icyclesusa.com/
. They have a Phil cutter, so lengths appropriate for my oddball
recumbent wheels were easy to obtain. The lengths came out correct,
but my last order came with the wrong nipples. They exchanged them
when I sent them back, but I wish I'd found that out before I put the
spokes in the hub. Caveat emptor...
Jeff
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Date: 03 Aug 2007 19:04:10
From: landotter
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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On Aug 2, 1:48 pm, D'ohBoy <peteng...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Aug 2, 11:56 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
> > timothy douma wrote:
> > > I need 18 each
> > > 252, 254, 259, 263
>
> > Try REI, I've bought spokes there. Buying online can be more expensive
> > if you're not buying in full packs of 50, 72 or 100.
>
> > Probably your LBS wouldn't charge you more than $1 each either.
>
> > See "http://harriscyclery.net/itemdetails.cfm?ID=1032" for online
> > purchases. $1 each. Also
> > "http://www.salemcycle.com/salemcycle/taber/pa_p9_ds.html"
>
> Holy crap! A buck each? What are they, titanium? Hell, I get 'em
> for you if you pay me $1/per.
>
> Should be able to find 14 or 15 straight for less than $0.40/per,
> 14/15 butted for around $0.65, and 14/17 for around $0.75 in packs of
> 20.
>
> www.thorusa.comis my source.
>
> And if you're lucky, when you order you get to talk to Thor's
> Scandahoovian mom (grandmother?) ;)
>
Yeah! That's the site I've been trying to remember! He stocks not only
the wonderful classic Pletscher rack, but the 4 stay version--and even
a 2 stay front rack--all with spring clips, like proper racks all
oughtta have. Cheap, too.
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Date: 03 Aug 2007 15:45:12
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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On Aug 3, 8:30 am, "David L. Johnson" <david.john...@lehigh.edu >
wrote:
> timothy douma wrote:
> > I need 18 each
> > 252, 254, 259, 263
>
> I just ordered some spokes, and was surprised how little is available
> from the big retailers. Performance and Nashbar each only had a few
> sizes (different ones, too, which is odd since they are the same company
> now). I got mine at Lickton's ($13 for a pack of 20 DT double-butted),
> but will keep these other sites in mind.
>
> --
>
> David L. Johnson
>
> And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries,
> and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove
> mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. [1 Corinth. 13:2]
We have DT Comps and Revs, silver and black in most lengths and I'll
send onsies and 2sies...$.70 for silver 14/15, $.90 for Revs, $1 for
black 14/15 and $1.30 for black revs..all include 12mm silver brass
nipps...shipping via USPS generally $5.
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Date: 03 Aug 2007 08:43:04
From: Ron Ruff
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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On Aug 3, 9:32 am, "David L. Johnson" <david.john...@lehigh.edu >
wrote:
> A thread-rolling machine won't do much good for someone wanting
> double-butted spokes. How many shops still have these things, anyway?
They can be used for DB spokes. In my comment I meant that few shops
deal with spokes enough to warrant stocking them or getting the PW
machine. The shop in Kauai had one though, and would just custom cut
whatever you wanted. I'm sure it isn't something they really make
money on though, so it makes sense that most shops wouldn't bother
these days.
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Date: 03 Aug 2007 11:30:42
From: David L. Johnson
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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timothy douma wrote:
> I need 18 each
> 252, 254, 259, 263
I just ordered some spokes, and was surprised how little is available
from the big retailers. Performance and Nashbar each only had a few
sizes (different ones, too, which is odd since they are the same company
now). I got mine at Lickton's ($13 for a pack of 20 DT double-butted),
but will keep these other sites in mind.
--
David L. Johnson
And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries,
and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove
mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. [1 Corinth. 13:2]
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Date: 03 Aug 2007 22:23:09
From: Patrick Lamb
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 11:30:42 -0400, "David L. Johnson"
<david.johnson@lehigh.edu > wrote:
>timothy douma wrote:
>> I need 18 each
>> 252, 254, 259, 263
>
>I just ordered some spokes, and was surprised how little is available
>from the big retailers. Performance and Nashbar each only had a few
>sizes (different ones, too, which is odd since they are the same company
>now). I got mine at Lickton's ($13 for a pack of 20 DT double-butted),
>but will keep these other sites in mind.
Last couple of my spoke orders (one for a new wheel, one to correct
machine-built wheel shaped objects) went to Lickton's as well. Fair
price, in stock.
Pat
Email address works as is.
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Date: 03 Aug 2007 12:05:29
From:
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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On Aug 2, 8:55 am, timothy douma <douma...@ameritech.net > wrote:
> I need 18 each
> 252, 254, 259, 263
I can supply you with butted (14/15/14) spokes in those lengths for
$0.5 each including brass or alloy nipples and US shipping/handling.
Best wishes,
Nigel Grinter
Well-Spoken Wheels Inc.
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Date: 02 Aug 2007 17:38:47
From: Ron Ruff
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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On Aug 2, 3:03 pm, timothy douma <t...@loopchurch.org > wrote:
> As to LBS: It's kind of surprising what's not in stock.
No Phil Wood machine? I guess they don't deal with spokes much...
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Date: 03 Aug 2007 11:32:26
From: David L. Johnson
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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Ron Ruff wrote:
> On Aug 2, 3:03 pm, timothy douma <t...@loopchurch.org> wrote:
>> As to LBS: It's kind of surprising what's not in stock.
>
> No Phil Wood machine? I guess they don't deal with spokes much...
A thread-rolling machine won't do much good for someone wanting
double-butted spokes. How many shops still have these things, anyway?
--
David L. Johnson
And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries,
and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove
mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. [1 Corinth. 13:2]
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Date: 04 Aug 2007 14:01:25
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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>> On Aug 2, 3:03 pm, timothy douma <t...@loopchurch.org> wrote:
>>> As to LBS: It's kind of surprising what's not in stock.
> Ron Ruff wrote:
>> No Phil Wood machine? I guess they don't deal with spokes much...
David L. Johnson wrote:
> A thread-rolling machine won't do much good for someone wanting
> double-butted spokes. How many shops still have these things, anyway?
Every shop which does a volume in custom wheels. A butted spoke can be
trimmed over 1cm sometimes 15mm depending on the original blank.
There has been such severe disruption of the spoke market recently we
could not live without ours.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 04 Aug 2007 13:58:25
From:
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:01:25 -0500, A Muzi <am@yellowjersey.org >
wrote:
>>> On Aug 2, 3:03 pm, timothy douma <t...@loopchurch.org> wrote:
>>>> As to LBS: It's kind of surprising what's not in stock.
>
>> Ron Ruff wrote:
>>> No Phil Wood machine? I guess they don't deal with spokes much...
>
>David L. Johnson wrote:
>> A thread-rolling machine won't do much good for someone wanting
>> double-butted spokes. How many shops still have these things, anyway?
>
>Every shop which does a volume in custom wheels. A butted spoke can be
>trimmed over 1cm sometimes 15mm depending on the original blank.
>
>There has been such severe disruption of the spoke market recently we
>could not live without ours.
Dear Andrew,
Is there a good story behind this disruption of the spoke market?
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 04 Aug 2007 17:53:57
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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>>>>> As to LBS: It's kind of surprising what's not in stock.
>>> Ron Ruff wrote:
>>>> No Phil Wood machine? I guess they don't deal with spokes much...
>> David L. Johnson wrote:
>>> A thread-rolling machine won't do much good for someone wanting
>>> double-butted spokes. How many shops still have these things, anyway?
>>>> timothy douma <t...@loopchurch.org> wrote:
>> Every shop which does a volume in custom wheels. A butted spoke can be
>> trimmed over 1cm sometimes 15mm depending on the original blank.
> A Muzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>> There has been such severe disruption of the spoke market recently we
>> could not live without ours.
carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> Is there a good story behind this disruption of the spoke market?
Asahi closed. the new 'Wheelsmith' in Milwaukee will start shipping in
'spring' which hasn't happened yet, product we like is scarce on the
ground, shortages, mis-ships, short-ships, etc etc. Spending _way_ too
much time looking for a few cases of spokes every week now.
No news, just 'normal'. With bells on.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 02 Aug 2007 15:43:18
From: Gary Young
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 09:11:37 -0700, Hank Wirtz wrote:
> On Aug 2, 6:55 am, timothy douma <douma...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>> I need 18 each
>> 252, 254, 259, 263
>
> Talk to Dave Ornee, a regular here at RBT. I buy all my spokes from
> him. He's at dave@ornee.net
Also, Dave regularly sells spokes through ebay:
http://tinyurl.com/3y59h3
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Date: 02 Aug 2007 19:43:29
From: landotter
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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On Aug 2, 2:35 pm, Nate Knutson <biken...@riseup.net > wrote:
> On Aug 2, 11:39 am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 2, 11:56 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > timothy douma wrote:
> > > > I need 18 each
> > > > 252, 254, 259, 263
>
> > > Try REI, I've bought spokes there. Buying online can be more expensive
> > > if you're not buying in full packs of 50, 72 or 100.
>
> > > Probably your LBS wouldn't charge you more than $1 each either.
>
> > > See "http://harriscyclery.net/itemdetails.cfm?ID=1032" for online
> > > purchases. $1 each. Also
> > > "http://www.salemcycle.com/salemcycle/taber/pa_p9_ds.html"
>
> > I wanna know where to get Sapim Race spokes for a fair price. DT and
> > Wheelsmith spokes have always struck me as a bit overpriced, and
> > Sapims have retailed for 30% less or so when I've seen them side by
> > side. I've ridden DT spoked and Sapim spoked wheels and both have been
> > perfectly appliance like in their durability, so I see no reason to
> > pay the DT "bump".
>
> There's only a handful of wholesale distributors for them in the US.
> The two I know of are KHS and UBS (United Bicycle Supply). All shops
> can get accounts with both (KHS is territorial for their bikes but not
> parts & accessories), and many better shops will already have an
> account with UBS. The spokes are great and you can get all of them in
> smaller quantities, like bags of 20.
Cool! The LBS has been so busy since they opened that I'll likely just
pass Carl's link to the fellow rider who's thinking of learning to
build. The bags of 20 are a reason I like Sapim. When it's 50 or 100,
you always have to buy way too many for the average build.
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Date: 02 Aug 2007 12:35:16
From: Nate Knutson
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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On Aug 2, 11:39 am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Aug 2, 11:56 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
> > timothy douma wrote:
> > > I need 18 each
> > > 252, 254, 259, 263
>
> > Try REI, I've bought spokes there. Buying online can be more expensive
> > if you're not buying in full packs of 50, 72 or 100.
>
> > Probably your LBS wouldn't charge you more than $1 each either.
>
> > See "http://harriscyclery.net/itemdetails.cfm?ID=1032" for online
> > purchases. $1 each. Also
> > "http://www.salemcycle.com/salemcycle/taber/pa_p9_ds.html"
>
> I wanna know where to get Sapim Race spokes for a fair price. DT and
> Wheelsmith spokes have always struck me as a bit overpriced, and
> Sapims have retailed for 30% less or so when I've seen them side by
> side. I've ridden DT spoked and Sapim spoked wheels and both have been
> perfectly appliance like in their durability, so I see no reason to
> pay the DT "bump".
There's only a handful of wholesale distributors for them in the US.
The two I know of are KHS and UBS (United Bicycle Supply). All shops
can get accounts with both (KHS is territorial for their bikes but not
parts & accessories), and many better shops will already have an
account with UBS. The spokes are great and you can get all of them in
smaller quantities, like bags of 20.
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Date: 02 Aug 2007 11:48:34
From: D'ohBoy
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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On Aug 2, 11:56 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com > wrote:
> timothy douma wrote:
> > I need 18 each
> > 252, 254, 259, 263
>
> Try REI, I've bought spokes there. Buying online can be more expensive
> if you're not buying in full packs of 50, 72 or 100.
>
> Probably your LBS wouldn't charge you more than $1 each either.
>
> See "http://harriscyclery.net/itemdetails.cfm?ID=1032" for online
> purchases. $1 each. Also
> "http://www.salemcycle.com/salemcycle/taber/pa_p9_ds.html"
Holy crap! A buck each? What are they, titanium? Hell, I get 'em
for you if you pay me $1/per.
Should be able to find 14 or 15 straight for less than $0.40/per,
14/15 butted for around $0.65, and 14/17 for around $0.75 in packs of
20.
www.thorusa.com is my source.
And if you're lucky, when you order you get to talk to Thor's
Scandahoovian mom (grandmother?) ;)
D'ohBoy
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Date: 02 Aug 2007 18:39:43
From: landotter
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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On Aug 2, 11:56 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com > wrote:
> timothy douma wrote:
> > I need 18 each
> > 252, 254, 259, 263
>
> Try REI, I've bought spokes there. Buying online can be more expensive
> if you're not buying in full packs of 50, 72 or 100.
>
> Probably your LBS wouldn't charge you more than $1 each either.
>
> See "http://harriscyclery.net/itemdetails.cfm?ID=1032" for online
> purchases. $1 each. Also
> "http://www.salemcycle.com/salemcycle/taber/pa_p9_ds.html"
I wanna know where to get Sapim Race spokes for a fair price. DT and
Wheelsmith spokes have always struck me as a bit overpriced, and
Sapims have retailed for 30% less or so when I've seen them side by
side. I've ridden DT spoked and Sapim spoked wheels and both have been
perfectly appliance like in their durability, so I see no reason to
pay the DT "bump".
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Date: 02 Aug 2007 12:52:32
From:
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 18:39:43 -0000, landotter <landotter@gmail.com >
wrote:
>On Aug 2, 11:56 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> timothy douma wrote:
>> > I need 18 each
>> > 252, 254, 259, 263
>>
>> Try REI, I've bought spokes there. Buying online can be more expensive
>> if you're not buying in full packs of 50, 72 or 100.
>>
>> Probably your LBS wouldn't charge you more than $1 each either.
>>
>> See "http://harriscyclery.net/itemdetails.cfm?ID=1032" for online
>> purchases. $1 each. Also
>> "http://www.salemcycle.com/salemcycle/taber/pa_p9_ds.html"
>
>I wanna know where to get Sapim Race spokes for a fair price. DT and
>Wheelsmith spokes have always struck me as a bit overpriced, and
>Sapims have retailed for 30% less or so when I've seen them side by
>side. I've ridden DT spoked and Sapim spoked wheels and both have been
>perfectly appliance like in their durability, so I see no reason to
>pay the DT "bump".
Dear LD,
BikeToolsEtc sells Sapim Race spokes in bags of 20 for $9.50 plain,
$13.50 black, 246 to 300 mm in erratic 1-2mm steps, with various
lengths out of stock according to popularity and day of the week:
http://biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=24393435553&nr=51&b=&c=&sc=&tc=&q=sapim%20race&s=
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 02 Aug 2007 09:56:34
From: SMS
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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timothy douma wrote:
> I need 18 each
> 252, 254, 259, 263
Try REI, I've bought spokes there. Buying online can be more expensive
if you're not buying in full packs of 50, 72 or 100.
Probably your LBS wouldn't charge you more than $1 each either.
See "http://harriscyclery.net/itemdetails.cfm?ID=1032" for online
purchases. $1 each. Also
"http://www.salemcycle.com/salemcycle/taber/pa_p9_ds.html"
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Date: 02 Aug 2007 09:11:37
From: Hank Wirtz
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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On Aug 2, 6:55 am, timothy douma <douma...@ameritech.net > wrote:
> I need 18 each
> 252, 254, 259, 263
Talk to Dave Ornee, a regular here at RBT. I buy all my spokes from
him. He's at dave@ornee.net
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Date: 02 Aug 2007 21:03:14
From: timothy douma
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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I was fishing for Dave's email, as a matter of fact. I figured he'd be
the guy.
As to LBS: It's kind of surprising what's not in stock.
td
Hank Wirtz wrote:
> On Aug 2, 6:55 am, timothy douma <douma...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>>I need 18 each
>>252, 254, 259, 263
>
>
> Talk to Dave Ornee, a regular here at RBT. I buy all my spokes from
> him. He's at dave@ornee.net
>
>
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Date: 02 Aug 2007 09:10:14
From: Ron Ruff
Subject: Re: source for spokes
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Have you checked your LBS?
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